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    Default history gunpowder and firearms

    http://df.warcry.com/scripts/news/vi...ite=7&id=55313
    5. Since there are cannons, is there gunpowder? Will there be old school one shot pistols? (question from phiendish1)

    there is in fact no gunpowder in the game, just the cannons. No pistols or other personal firearms are planned. We put cannons in the game because ballistae and catapults on ships just weren't as cool or as much fun as the cannons are. Some may think that cannons in the game could ruin the immersion but they really don't. If it helps, cannons were invented way before personal firearms were, around the 11th century by the song dynasty chinese and came to europe in the 14th century. As the medieval fantasy game concept goes, i think we're chronologically covered
    actually, gunpowder was invented by the chinese physician Sun Simiao (581-682 a.d.)

    during the tang dynasty (618-906 a.d.) the "fiery" attributes of the powder were discovered.

    the first weapons using gunpowder were "fiery arrows" (innovators: Yue Yifang, Feng Jisheng and others).the gunpowder was attached to the arrows in small packages. that was during the song dynasty at 970 a.d.

    the first real handheld firearms were built 1259 in southern china, something like a blowgun.


    gunpowder found its way to the west in the 12th and 13th century. the first reports about using cannons originate in the west. the almohad dynasty allegedly used them in northern africa in 1204.

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    Who gives a shit? There are hovertanks, there's magic and elves. It's a fantasy game.

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    The more you know
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    The more you forget.

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    But how do you make gunpowder? I need something to do while waiting for the DF dream to die.

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    Some may think that cannons in the game could ruin the immersion but they really don't.
    Those the ones who KNOW they are gonna get wtfpwnt by cannons.

    "Boo Hoo my merchant ship got sunk by teh evil pirates, this ruins my gaming experience...I'm going back to WoW"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevron View Post
    The more you forget.
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    Your signature has been noted to be extraordinarily violent by several users, I agree. Please change it. =[

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    i was just pointing out that in fact, personal firearms using gunpowder were actually used before cannons.

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    The devs apparently think that cannons are cool, but firearms are not. Therefore there will be cannons but no firearms. DF lore is a big pile of crap anyway, so no breaking the atmosphere there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stony23 View Post
    i was just pointing out that in fact, personal firearms using gunpowder were actually used before cannons.
    Okay already, you did your homework.

    Still doesn't matter, cannon are in, pistols aren't.
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    i have a cool book for all the first things in the world and i wanted to brag about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stony23 View Post
    i have a cool book for all the first things in the world and i wanted to brag about it.
    Me too, it's called the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevron View Post
    Me too, it's called the internet.
    Specifically, Wikipedia.

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    wikipedia is flawed. its nice but its flawed. and i crosschecked many things from the book over the internet, and realized the internet spits out wrong information alot. wikipedia too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stony23 View Post
    wikipedia is flawed. its nice but its flawed. and i crosschecked many things from the book over the internet, and realized the internet spits out wrong information alot. wikipedia too.
    How do you know your book is right?

    What are you cross-checking it with?

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