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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharkon Fargor View Post
    A free market is simply a market that is unregulated.
    Why is it that you are afraid to answer the rest? About the lack of bank regulations or regulations forbidding corporations or organisations using "sponsorship" as an entrance to spread THEIR propaganda in your schools? Would you like a fucking breeding center of PETA-bots? Well then, start regulating shit and forbidding corporations and organisations to advertise in school.

    A free market may or may not be opposed to taxation. "Free markets" is a system of economics in which goods and people may travel freely and in which no regulations exist. Then there are levels on how much you can regulate the market, making it more or less regulated and thus more or less a free-market. After you step over a certain border you start moving to Regulated markets contra Planned markets/Planned economy. And the economy becomes again more or less regulated or more and less a planned economy. Why did I bring this up? Well tho shove it up your face, ofcourse.

    Even a stalinist, planned economy can work without any taxes. You can in theory have NO taxes and a shitload of regulations more or less forcing private corporations to build what you want. You can also have 100% taxes, distribute that money to every individual and then let that individual do what he wants with that money. Yes I'm taking it to the extremes, only because you don't get it otherwise, sorry.


    And to whom ever said education was underfunded.
    If education is underfunded, which I keep hearing from some people that its overfunded (I guess its a matter of perspective) then it will obviously fail. But even if the education is the only thing that the government spends money on and spends ALOT money on, it can still fail because of lack of regulations.

    You obviously don't have regulations if you let corporations sponsor schools and put their corporate propaganda in there.
    You don't have regulations if you let schools get money depending on how good the children do on tests. That is not regulations, that is "pouring money" and hoping it will solve things.
    To regulate you have to TELL school how to educate children SO that they recive good grades. The "no child left behind" is not a true, regulatory legislation, it's bogus - bullshit...one more thing that your taxdollars go to and become complete waste.
    That's because taxes and regulations are interchangeable. They are both the same in that the end results are the same. They both increase prices of goods and they place incidence on a specific group.

    Right now education is funded heavily if you understand that the Department of education gets a ton of funding. They have issued unfunded mandates to schools to comply with regulations such as NCLB. Also, you aren't addressing the fact that the school system is 100% compulsory and payed for taxation. You don't seem to understand NCLB at all.

    Also, corporate propaganda in schools? The whole school system is designed in order to obtain a population in absolute obedience to the state. Our compulsory educational system is borrowed from the Prussian model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharkon Fargor View Post
    lol.

    And that is the rest of the worlds systems which are even more regulated, in your eyes "ebül socialist" work better?

    common...think with your brain and not with your ass for once.
    They don't work better.

    Air France, France Telecom to name two all required bail out and they are/were gov't run. In general, France's economy and gov't revenues rely too much on consumption which is why any time people start saving, France has issues.

    One reason they were so Pro - euro; they needed to have the franc bailed out yet again.

    I can't speak to all countries but I know a bit about France and they are part of the RotW so take it or leave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharkon Fargor View Post
    thats why you nubs need subsidized or free healthcare...bah USA= Noobs.
    That would be great to have free healthcare....Let me know when you see doctors and nurses working for free

    Oh wait, you mean the "Free" kind of health care that you pay with your taxes. Oh, thats right, thats totally "free".

    Let me know when Sweden can do anything other than make chocolate and fat women.

    Healthcared payed with taxes work with small countries, which is something they all fucking fail to realize....that they are a fucking small country that no one cares about.

    Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if anyone, american or european....or even swedes could name whoever the hell their leader is, while we got a swedish guy attempted to "educate" us on our own president. Its amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharkon Fargor View Post
    A free market is simply a market that is unregulated.
    Why is it that you are afraid to answer the rest? About the lack of bank regulations
    Lol... You don't think banks are regulated in the US? Come fucking work for one and then tell me they aren't regulated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezrith View Post
    Lol... You don't think banks are regulated in the US? Come fucking work for one and then tell me they aren't regulated.
    It's probably one of the most regulated industries.

    Got central banking?

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    Unions in the US turn workers into overpaid, lazy sloths. Look at our auto industry or techers..

    perfect examples.

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    That video was pretty unfunny.

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    Colbert was funny when he was right. Making fun of shit by misrepresenting it is retarded.
    "What, you think just because you need it means you have a right to take mine?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverhandorder View Post
    Colbert was funny when he was right. Making fun of shit by misrepresenting it is retarded.
    Unfortunately John Stewart is resorting to this as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milo Hobgoblin View Post
    Unions in the US turn workers into overpaid, lazy sloths. Look at our auto industry or techers..

    perfect examples.
    Did you just say teachers are overpaid? Where? Certainly not in America.
    Are you shivering yet?


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    The vid is pretty funny. But not much fact in it.

    No child left behind. Lol. There is a really good Jon Stossel report on youtube called Stupid in America, that you might want to check out about this.

    Yes - companies are becoming further entrenched by current regulation. And you are right that further regulation might be able to solve that.... But government isn't stupid. You're getting exactly what they care to give you.
    And free market proponents are simply intelligent enough to know that bigger government won't solve government mismanagement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneda View Post
    Did you just say teachers are overpaid? Where? Certainly not in America.
    Uh, hell yeah they are overpaid. Average teacher salary in Boston pro-rated is about 100k/year. It's where I lived so that's my example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleOne View Post
    Worth reading as well.

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    Unions are good in theory but bad in application. Those at the top are just like lobbying groups that perpetrate corruption and lack transparency. They are also the reason you have so many uneducated buffons clocking in and out doing nothing and making 60k/yr salaries.

    As for you swedes, just STFU already. Your country is a joke, and full of ignorant people that contribute very little of anything to the world economy. Just wait till Putin steamrolls your country

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