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    I think there may be some rather long threads about this topic somewhere in here but, well, I don't want to read old threads. So anyway, what's everyone's beef with globalization? I'm making this a poll but I'm fairly certain the result is going to be strongly against it. The thought came to me after reading one of Tharkon Fargor's posts about how a new world order is coming that will include all sorts of crazy dystopian cliches. I thought to myself, "Why does globalization require these things in so many people's minds?"
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    Well if it stopped wars sure. But it wouldn't, it would just make some people even stronger so no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRCPan View Post
    Well if it stopped wars sure. But it wouldn't, it would just make some people even stronger so no.
    that is pretty close to what I think. Even if the entire globe was 1 country does not mean wars will stop. Civil wars would still exist and probably be much more common.
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    Only way I would approve of it is if the entire world became part of the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glue Gun View Post
    Only way I would approve of it is if the entire world became part of the USA.
    You mexicans are getting too lazy now and just want the u.s. to send you welfare checks without having to go through the border.
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    I'm against it because there are sometimes vast cultural differences between small geographical areas, let alone amongst the continents. The idea that one size fits all politics will work across something so large is pretty silly. It clearly doesn't work in the US, let alone the world.
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    What ever happened to countries sovereignty?

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    Globalization is wrong out of all aspects.
    It it is a waste of resources to produce goods in one China and then ship them to the US when you can produce the same goods in the US. The only one who can possibly profit of that if we truly see the world as global and the people as one is the person owning the production facillity.
    It's anti democratic. Any political system moving away from local democracy to a more global "democracy" is automaticly less democratic as fewer people will decide over more things.
    It just like Materiel said is incompatible with different ways of life and different cultures. The only way it can become compatible is if different cultures and ways of life are deleted and destroyed rendering the world boring and homogenic.

    Fuck that.


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    EDIT: Globalization requires more control and the submission of peoples and their cultures and way of life. If you are going to make the peoples of the world follow a few leaders and the same laws all over the planet then you'll have the masses revolting. Isn't it obvious? We're already seeing how much problems uncontrolled, random imigration is giving us.
    People moving from place to place only because there's a job there, indifferent of the cultural heritage of that country or the politics of that country and then (like they tried in France) try to force the way people live in those countries by demanding their rights as "minorities".

    To combat this you need more control.
    Also if you are going to give corporations more freedom to do what they want without having elected assemblies decide if certain goods are inappropriate or toxic or for example if the internet would be privatized (it's currently run by several national super computers) then many people will probably be angry.

    Heck it's not what we *think* will will happen, it's what already is happening. Most americans have probably seen random checkpoints in the streets of police officiers searching people. Gun rights are being taken away from the people so that they won't stand in a future revolt.
    Corruption is almost legalized in some parts of the world.
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    Harsher laws such as the Patriot Act and the FRA in Sweden are being forced through against the wishes of the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovtivon View Post
    You mexicans are getting too lazy now and just want the u.s. to send you welfare checks without having to go through the border.
    while there is some truth to that, he reason I like the USA is because the drug cartels are taking Mexico over and most of the world is ignoring it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matriel View Post
    I'm against it because there are sometimes vast cultural differences between small geographical areas, let alone amongst the continents. The idea that one size fits all politics will work across something so large is pretty silly. It clearly doesn't work in the US, let alone the world.
    It might work if you make a loose confederation of regions.

    That way the different people can have the government they want and if they don't like where they are at they can easily go to another region and enjoy a better sense of unity. Drawing up the constitution would be hell though for all those involved and might end up like america under the articles of confederation but while it may start out no better than what the united nations is today it could evolve into a better sense of unification in the future. However as with all governments very risky to becoming something more oppresive but on the plus side you have the whole world checking the international government and one facist type government can't easily keep order in all those regions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovtivon View Post
    It might work if you make a loose confederation of regions.

    That way the different people can have the government they want and if they don't like where they are at they can easily go to another region and enjoy a better sense of unity. Drawing up the constitution would be hell though for all those involved and might end up like america under the articles of confederation but while it may start out no better than what the united nations is today it could evolve into a better sense of unification in the future. However as with all governments very risky to becoming something more oppresive but on the plus side you have the whole world checking the international government and one facist type government can't easily keep order in all those regions.
    It might, but normally federal governments take more power, not give it up. I guess Switzerland and Belguim are good examples of local autonomy because otherwise the countries would break into civil war, but there are far more countries that have started out with strong local powers that have moved to strong federal powers.
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    We have to fight something... I suggest creating that zombie virus. And this is relevant to the thread how? Figure it out, I sure as hell don't know.
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    Wow, forumfall is filled with those Anti globalization people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matriel View Post
    I'm against it because there are sometimes vast cultural differences between small geographical areas, let alone amongst the continents. The idea that one size fits all politics will work across something so large is pretty silly. It clearly doesn't work in the US, let alone the world.

    Who said anything about a one world government thats an extreme form of globalisation. I agree a one world government will not work in our life times.

    In general economically speaking globalisation is good, and only for one reason. Globalisation increases competition. businesses must compete harder to survive, workers must compete harder for jobs and nations compete harder to be the best at everything.

    When evryone is competeting everyone does better than if there was no competition, so we tend to move along faster.

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    Which should be anyone who belives in local governance, democracy, liberty and cultural diversity.

    Anyone ellse can go fuck themselves.
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