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    Default The War in Iraq is Illegal, Right?

    Can somebody explain to me how it is illegal? For example, what laws were broken, etc.
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    It is not illegal, it's just not an official war since Congress never declared war. That's how I remember it at least.

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    I belive the argument is that we never formally declared war and there was just a resolution granting power to the President to user military power.

    Or the argument that it was against International law, but the US Constitution doesn't recognize International Law, so that one is just stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matriel View Post
    I belive the argument is that we never formally declared war and there was just a resolution granting power to the President to user military power.
    But this doesn't make it illegal.
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    Real wars don't follow any rules/laws so they can't be illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunther TheBlack View Post
    Real wars don't follow any rules/laws so they can't be illegal.
    Well that's just as nebulous as the "it's illegal" and "war criminal" arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberias View Post
    But this doesn't make it illegal.
    It does if you feel it violates the War Powers Act.
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    Whoever has the power makes the rules. End of story.

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    I think the main argument of the impeach-Bush crowd is that he went to war nder false pretenses. They basically say he/his staff knew there were no WMDs in Iraq, that Saddam posed no threat, but they went ahead anyway.

    That and his supposed expl0iting of international laws in guantanamo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matriel View Post
    It does if you feel it violates the War Powers Act.
    So the rabid Left's argument is that the War in Iraq violates the War Powers Act, or is this the quasi-Libertarian view?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberias View Post
    So the rabid Left's argument is that the War in Iraq violates the War Powers Act, or is this the quasi-Libertarian view?
    I think it's an educated thought. The War Powers Act is written like shit (like most legislation), left open to interpretation, and also hasn't had any real rulings on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberias View Post
    Can somebody explain to me how it is illegal? For example, what laws were broken, etc.
    Its not...

    "Illegal" is just the new popular phrase amongst anti-war hippies, and liberals in general.

    When they use the word it means precisely jack shit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matriel View Post
    I belive the argument is that we never formally declared war and there was just a resolution granting power to the President to user military power.

    Or the argument that it was against International law, but the US Constitution doesn't recognize International Law, so that one is just stupid.
    Isn't international law we sign onto as treaties right under the constitution for legality purposes?

    Constitution/treaties/federal/state. I thought was the order could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m0j0mann View Post
    I think the main argument of the impeach-Bush crowd is that he went to war nder false pretenses. They basically say he/his staff knew there were no WMDs in Iraq, that Saddam posed no threat, but they went ahead anyway.
    What law was broken here? What makes it illegal?

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    That and his supposed expl0iting of international laws in guantanamo.
    Not related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wufiavelli View Post
    Isn't international law we sign onto as treaties right under the constitution for legality purposes?

    Constitution/treaties/federal/state. I thought was the order could be wrong.
    Yes, for treaties.
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