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    Default Last Minute Opinions: New PC

    Last minute opinions wanted before I sink $600. Budget gaming PC. Price/performance, incompatibility, bottlenecks? XP Pro, I'm not going with shitty Vista.

    I've delayed this for half a year. Give me further reasons.

    Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200 RPM 32MB - $89.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148288

    Video Card: XFX PVT88PYSF4 GeForce 8800 GT - $129.99 (-$30 rebate, -$20 instant) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150280

    Memory: GeIL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 - $33.99 (-$15 rebate) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144062

    Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 - $92.99 - http://www.directron.com/gap35ds3l.html

    Case/PSU: Antec Sonata III w/ EarthWatts 500W PSU - $79.99 - http://www.directron.com/sonataiii.html

    Case Fan: SILVERSTONE FM121-B 120mm - $14.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835220014

    Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core - $131.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115052

    CPU Fan: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - $21.99 - http://www.directron.com/acfz7pro.html

    DVD Burner: SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - $26.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151153

    Speakers: Logitech S-220 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System - $22.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836121014

    $597.10 (after shipping and -$45 in rebates, excluding Case/PSU already purchased, excluding mouse/pad/keyboard/OS)
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    Looks pretty good to me. Go for it. Should be plenty for Darkfall.


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    Nice build for the price. Although it wouldn't hurt to increase the RAM by at least a gig. Good quality RAM is quite cheap right now.

    You should also check Tigerdirect [a bit more expensive sometimes] and NCIX [as good as newegg and sometimes better]. Just check for deal's and sales. You never know.
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    You can get a higher capacity Hard drive for that price. The higher density platter should make up for the cache speed wise.

    You can get the P35 board on newegg for a few dollars cheaper.

    Good price for the 8800GT, but R700 and GT200 debut soon and should pop those prices down, if you care.

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    I agree with above. Get (3) 1GB sticks and you'll be good (last I checked, dual channel made minimal difference). More than that and you'd need 64bit OS.


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    For that low of a budget I'd cut down your processor a wee bit and replace it with RAM or something. Looks good though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlacierFreeze View Post
    I agree with above. Get (3) 1GB sticks and you'll be good (last I checked, dual channel made minimal difference). More than that and you'd need 64bit OS.
    Stick with 2gb or 4gb.

    Dual channel may not make the world of difference.. But it stil lmakes a difference.

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    If the GeIL RAM impresses me, I will snatch up some more of it afterwards. The prices don't seem to be going anywhere, thankfully enough. I'll stay with dual channel.

    I want to stick with the 45nm processor due to its overclocking ability. I had previously decided on the E2200, but I can afford the additional expense.

    As far as hard drives, how can I find out which has a higher density platter? Are there charts proving the increased performance over the 32mb cache versions?
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    I would avoid the 8800gt like its on fire. One reason is because it nearly is on fire. Most people using single and 2 slot versions run at 60c or near it. Its probably the worst card for heat that has hit the shelf in the last 5 years. Any 3870 model will run alot cooler and out of the box will OC for much better numbers. The other downside to the 8800gt is the horrible DX10 performance. It doesnt support dx10.1. So the performance is always going to be super shitty. I would wait untill the new 4000s and Nvidias hit the shelf 100%.

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    Gigabyte P35 motherboard have an infinite reboot problem, don't buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    Gigabyte P35 motherboard have an infinite reboot problem, don't buy it.
    Fully agree - had major problems with mine.

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    Go for Vista, it's great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mippoose View Post
    Stick with 2gb or 4gb.

    Dual channel may not make the world of difference.. But it stil lmakes a difference.
    He could get two 1GB sticks and two 512MB sticks and you'll have 3GB all in dual channel. That's what I'm running and it works great.

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    Don't listen to Spineless_DoO about the 8800GT, the cards run hot, but they're ok up to 120c, so 60c isn't much compared. They may heat up the rest of your comp a little, but since you're buying an

    You might want to think about getting a bigger case, the mini towers can be pretty small. They don't hold a whole hell of a lot, so later upgrades can be a pain in the ass for fitting the stuff inside and for keep the damn thing cool.

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    That's a pretty good deal on the 8800gt. When the MIR money comes in, you might consider buying an aftermarket VGA cooler for it as it does run pretty hot. Mine idles at about 55C and hits 75C at load and I'm considering getting this to cool it down some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlacierFreeze View Post
    I agree with above. Get (3) 1GB sticks and you'll be good (last I checked, dual channel made minimal difference). More than that and you'd need 64bit OS.
    No. No. No. Dual channel makes a huge difference, it practically doubles memory bandwidth.

    I too recommend more RAM. Just get 2x2GB. If you have a 32-bit OS it'll only recognize 3-3.5GB, but it will still be compatible and you'll be set for the future. RAM is dirt cheap now anyway. By the way, I've heard some bad stuff about GeIlL memory, mainly compatibility problems with motherboards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daccus View Post
    He could get two 1GB sticks and two 512MB sticks and you'll have 3GB all in dual channel. That's what I'm running and it works great.
    That means he'll be capped at 3GB unless he throws out some old RAM, which can be somewhat problematic in future if he runs Vista. 3GB works now for Vista, but games are starting to use more and more memory, especially MMOs. 4 RAM sticks is also less than ideal for overclocking and overall stability so I generally wouldn't recommend it to anyone.


    Personally, I think you could save even more money by buying a 5000+ Black Edition and overclocking it instead. You won't notice its inferior speed in games, at least not for a few more years. And when it starts to get slow, you can pop in a brand new AM2+ or even AM3 processor without buying a new motherboard or anything else. But that's up to you to decide. I went the AMD route because they offer the best and cheapest upgrade path for a broke gamer. Whenever Intel releases a new CPU chances are it might require a brand new motherboard chipset as well.
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