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    Quote Originally Posted by palo god View Post
    New evidence is completely irrelevant when it has ALREADY been established and ADMITTED that the soviets did it DECADES AGO. The article tries to establish it as a new story that was magically just uncovered. Go be a dipshit somewhere else.
    He asked what the news was. I answered. You told me to educate MYSELF. Instead I educated you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    He asked what the news was. I answered. You told me to educate MYSELF. Instead I'm defending decades old news articles as something new because I'm a dipshit that doesn't read anything outside of his anti-jewish conspiracy websites.
    Cool story bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyldor Gwyvallt View Post
    How many lies are still covered up? How many WWII crimes have still been wrongly blamed on the Axis or hyped for political reasons? When will ALL WWII facts be studied by historians with historical freedom and not imposed as dogmas to the Western masses for political vantage?

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    The Allies also blatantly ignored evidence of genocide and did not do a thing to stop it (such as bombing railways or organizing escapes) and denied refugees who many knew would be killed if they go back to Europe, and the US also had exculpated the main war criminals in Japan (royal family members) as well as those responsible for some of the most inhumane tortures (Unit 731).

    There is no good and evil in war since its evil by virtue of what it is, there's just political and practical.

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    Hey guys i just heard about this thing called the Spanish Inquisition. Also the Irish Potato Famine. Total government coverups and/or rewritten history that is relavent to the modern era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    He asked what the news was. I answered. You told me to educate MYSELF. Instead I educated you.
    Bissen,
    As usual you need to apply your advice to yourself first. See Bissen I got the idea of article
    Quote Originally Posted by Greywind View Post
    Roosevelt had known about it and ally with Stalin anyway
    See? No need to point me back to read article one more time. See? I just dont see it as sensation. See?
    Bissen,
    You are forumfall "Coyote The Genius" breaking in open door and stepping in own traps. Fortunately (for you) you have no idea how stupid and clumsy you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberryClock View Post
    The Allies also blatantly ignored evidence of genocide and did not do a thing to stop it (such as bombing railways or organizing escapes) and denied refugees who many knew would be killed if they go back to Europe, and the US also had exculpated the main war criminals in Japan (royal family members) as well as those responsible for some of the most inhumane tortures (Unit 731).
    Add to this nuking Japan civilian objects, bombing of Dresden etc,
    That is why I'm saying what the sensation?
    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberryClock View Post
    There is no good and evil in war since its evil by virtue of what it is, there's just political and practical.
    Straw,
    There is no angels in war and more often then not both sides in war equally bad. IMHO 99% of wars in human history.
    BUT
    There is 1% when you can pick up "good" and evil side .
    IMHO such was WW2. Sure Allies USA/UK/Russia are not angels but nazi were pure evil (IMHO) or at very last much worse alternative.
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    Old news for Historian people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyldor Gwyvallt View Post
    Pardon my naivety, but I do not get it, are you are trying to be ironic?

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    Reread the quote and you will understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    Actually. You are acting as if you are trying to deny involvement.

    But who cares about correct history? Fuck it.
    You sure as hell don't lol.

    EDIT: And lmfao at Bissen and anyone else who thinks this is uncovering something. Pick up a book for God's sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    lol. If only you were able to understand how completely idiotic that made you look. sadly I very much think you are not.

    Reading comprehension fail. Big fucking time.
    Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. This is very well known and famous event, Bissen. These are two socialist countries united in a pact of non aggression (in concept only) but based on it they jointly invaded Poland. I don't know how else to call (other than allies) two countries who join their military might to invade and conquer a third.

    They were more or less tenuous allies and partners in crime until Barbarossa (summer 1941).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vor'Dus[DiE] View Post
    Old news for Historian people.
    Really?

    ....Paul Allen, a historian expert in the Katyn Massacre told the Associated Press news agency that the new evidence was "potentially explosive".....
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-massacre.html

    The point is, from all this:

    1) US was complicit in covering up mass killings

    2) WWII "facts" CANNOT be taken at face value simply beacuse they were affirmed by Soviets AND by the US...quite the opposite...so any type of law that inhibits debate and research on ANY WWII issue is potentially covering up lies..this applies also the laws on the "Holocaust Revision".

    Instead that dogma is still standing as such...and very much praised y the averege fool.

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    You guys are sensationalist idiots. Quit trying to stir the pot with old news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyldor Gwyvallt View Post
    this applies also the laws on the "Holocaust Revision".
    So here the point...jews.
    Why am I not surprise?

    HG,
    The only thing that US/UK are guilty off is political expedience. US did not destroy or hide any evidence (according article) "coded massage" from captive is not evidence.
    Just simple common sense. NKVD massacre this people in 1940, German occupied location about 1 yr later. American PoW sow it in 1943.... Can you determine difference between 2 yr or 3 yr corpse? How can you be sure its not provocation?

    As for "POWs evidence disappeared, indicating that Roosevelt had them buried" .... I dont see any facts in article that substantiate it. It was a very questionable info in time of war and practically speaking not of immediate military or political value. Unlikely it ever get to president.

    Again. It happen. Russian admitted it (for all practical reasons) before 1989. AKA at first opportunity during "glastnost" so fact of massacre is not a news.
    Political expediency of USA/UK is not a news and not a crime.

    Does it mean that everything and anything about WW2 is a lie? I dont think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyldor Gwyvallt View Post
    Really?



    2) WWII "facts" CANNOT be taken at face value simply beacuse they were affirmed by Soviets AND by the US...quite the opposite...so any type of law that inhibits debate and research on ANY WWII issue is potentially covering up lies..this applies also the laws on the "Holocaust Revision".
    Now the cat is out of the bag. Why didn't you just start the topic with "Concentration Camps Are A Lie!!!"?

    Covering up, uncovering, denying or affirming a Soviet war-crime has nothing to do with Holocaust denial or or revisionism. Apart from the WOII-era there is no reasonable link between them. Any law concerning revisionism or denial can't even be applied to any other event related to WOII

    Then again, it comes from our resident anti-Israel rager. So no surprise there, only mild disappointment for the total lack of some coherence in relating different events and laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyldor Gwyvallt View Post
    Really?


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-massacre.html

    The point is, from all this:

    1) US was complicit in covering up mass killings

    2) WWII "facts" CANNOT be taken at face value simply beacuse they were affirmed by Soviets AND by the US...quite the opposite...so any type of law that inhibits debate and research on ANY WWII issue is potentially covering up lies..this applies also the laws on the "Holocaust Revision".

    Instead that dogma is still standing as such...and very much praised y the averege fool.

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    Wow, one guy that claims hes historian and he didnt know! Oh noes, Even I knew this, hell you can even read about it in World War 2 from Antony Beevor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyldor Gwyvallt View Post
    How many lies are still covered up? How many WWII crimes have still been wrongly blamed on the Axis or hyped for political reasons? When will ALL WWII facts be studied by historians with historical freedom and not imposed as dogmas to the Western masses for political vantage?

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    what fucked up mind are you. The ones who win always determine the history and it is no secret that stalin killed more people than hitler but that doesn't matter at all, it does't matter if the SS killed 6 mio or 2mio innocent womans and childrens it is simply a shame.

    And that the masacre of a thousand polish officers was done by soviet troops is no secret since a looonggg time. you are late.

    Shocking news for you, the masacre of Malmedy was also the fault of US soldiers because they picked up there guns over and over instead of giving up. yet several german soldiers were send to death and peiper was killed by french criminals later on.
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