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    Quote Originally Posted by firestrike View Post
    Its all politics in the end,they breed like crazy (7+ kids per family) so over the years they gathered quite alot of people to support their party in the government so its either you bend over to these guys and have a coalition or you choose to kick their ass and show them they are just like you and me,but then they remove themselves from the coalition and then you gotta have elections again.

    Quite a terrible situation where a very very old Status Quo is fucking us in the ass with those leeches.

    Just a few numbers:

    Normal IDF Soldier Salary Per month:

    Combatant:750 NIS
    Office Job:350 NIS

    Orthodox Jews:

    Combatant:750 (Bearly any of them go combatant)
    Office Jobs: 3000-4000 (The more kids they have the more money they get)

    Not to mention instead of 3 years they only serve 1.6 years,and thats the ones THAT DO CHOOSE TO SERVE - ALL THE OTHERS WON'T EVEN DO THAT.

    They are the biggest problem we have internally over here,they are leeches and a huge weight on the economy,not to mention they are spreading their retarded ignorant way of "Don't go to uni and get educated or work,keep studying the Torah (Bible) and you'll get paid!"
    In the end they end up having way too many kids,no money and they are all poor.

    I Despise them.
    Wow man that's really fucked up, and it sucks that its actually working out for them.

    What about my other question though, are the young combatant draftees put into regular army units or do they have their own units?

    As a US army vet, I can say that its hard enough getting people in line who actually want to be there, cant really imagine dealing with a bunch of draftees who didn't.

    Then again I would imagine having real, tangible threats so close to home would serve to solidify the populace as a whole versus the majority of people who think everything is owed to them that we have here in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grixxitt View Post
    Wow man that's really fucked up, and it sucks that its actually working out for them.

    What about my other question though, are the young combatant draftees put into regular army units or do they have their own units?

    As a US army vet, I can say that its hard enough getting people in line who actually want to be there, cant really imagine dealing with a bunch of draftees who didn't.

    Then again I would imagine having real, tangible threats so close to home would serve to solidify the populace as a whole versus the majority of people who think everything is owed to them that we have here in the US.
    They serve in special units,the combatants are 100% legit people who just want to pray 3 times a day,eat kosher etc,these guys have my respect because the serve together with their beliefs,The other Draftees on the other hand are paper pushers,without any important roles like Intelligence or anything like that,they do however get paid alot.

    They protest,they rather go to military jail than serve in the army,bunch of useless dimwits really,If we didn't fund them we would have had a few more billions to use to improve the life quality over here.
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    This thread is like a wet dream for firestrike.

    Hes all liek "AH YES, I WILL TELL U TEH STORY OF MY PPLZ"


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    I came here expecting to see rabbis fighting to the death.

    This thread disappoints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croim View Post
    This thread is like a wet dream for firestrike.

    Hes all liek "AH YES, I WILL TELL U TEH STORY OF MY PPLZ"


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    Bissen and Hodor need to unite with Firestrike in their hatred of orthodox jews.

    To an outsider they must be like the jew-iest jews imaginable

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grixxitt View Post
    Bissen and Hodor need to unite with Firestrike in their hatred of orthodox jews.

    To an outsider they must be like the jew-iest jews imaginable
    I don't hate them,I just think they are too stupid and ignorant thanks to their spiritual leaders.

    The blame is on the Crazy fanatics not the Orthodox Jews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firestrike View Post
    I don't hate them,I just think they are too stupid and ignorant thanks to their spiritual leaders.

    The blame is on the Crazy fanatics not the Orthodox Jews.
    Aye. Last time I checked none of the religious extremists were particularly pleasant people.

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    Greece has this too.
    People in the army are not considered unemployed.Neither they are counted statistically as such when we make fake reports for the EU.
    With those cooked numbers we got into the EU in the first place.

    Haha Europe, you got trolled.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madrandomize View Post
    Greece has this too.
    People in the army are not considered unemployed.Neither they are counted statistically as such when we make fake reports for the EU.
    With those cooked numbers we got into the EU in the first place.

    Haha Europe, you got trolled.
    and now youre country is being crushed because of that gj trolls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusghuul View Post
    Not that retarded if you're surrounded by hostile nations. Norway and Finland have it because of Russia.
    Norway has/had the option of civilian slave labor for conscientious objectors. Of course they made it so that 100% of them had to do it and had longer service while like 40% of potential draftees got picked. Then a year or two ago they stopped prosecuting people that don't show up for "førstegangstjeneste" meaning only people that don't know about it are legally compelled to serve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeking View Post
    Norway has/had the option of civilian slave labor for conscientious objectors. Of course they made it so that 100% of them had to do it and had longer service while like 40% of potential draftees got picked. Then a year or two ago they stopped prosecuting people that don't show up for "førstegangstjeneste" meaning only people that don't know about it are legally compelled to serve.

    Avoiding it is pretty easy though. I have no problem with conscientious objectors serving longer; look back at our old conscientious objectors and you'll find traitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusghuul View Post
    Avoiding it is pretty easy though. I have no problem with conscientious objectors serving longer; look back at our old conscientious objectors and you'll find traitors.
    There is a problem when you punish people for objecting to it when you have many more willing to do it than you need. Especially when you have really weak punishment for failing to show up for military. Like 90 prison days was common I think (being fewer actual days served) and they probably didn't even convict everyone either. Then it's more lucrative to break the law assuming having been in prison won't cause any problems with jobs f ex. Also they should have the same chance of having to do it as the military ones. Just increase the time they have to serve or make their working days harder/longer if you feel they should work more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grixxitt View Post
    Bissen and Hodor need to unite with Firestrike in their hatred of orthodox jews.

    To an outsider they must be like the jew-iest jews imaginable
    I don't hate Jews you stupid fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeking View Post
    There is a problem when you punish people for objecting to it when you have many more willing to do it than you need. Especially when you have really weak punishment for failing to show up for military. Like 90 prison days was common I think (being fewer actual days served) and they probably didn't even convict everyone either. Then it's more lucrative to break the law assuming having been in prison won't cause any problems with jobs f ex. Also they should have the same chance of having to do it as the military ones. Just increase the time they have to serve or make their working days harder/longer if you feel they should work more.
    Not exactly what I meant. I mean Labour's Broken Gun policy - refusing to mobilise upon invasion, saying pacifism will prevent war and then being the first to run etc. We have way more potential soldiers than we can afford, but in general (hahaha), most people don't do the jail time as it's a nasty stain on your records. Also, jail times in Norway are pretty skewed, as rape can land you a year and tax evasion many times that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    I don't hate Jews you stupid fuck.
    Let the butthurt flow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeblebrox View Post
    Come on, mate, you'll have better luck converting people door to door. Our souls are already marching to the eternal fire, we are forever tainted by too much internet porn and grand theft auto.

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