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    Default Indiana legalizesthe use of deadly force on a public servant

    http://rt.com/usa/news/indiana-shooting-law-state-591/

    Hold onto your holsters, folks: shooting a cop dead is now legal in the state of Indiana.

    Governor Mitch Daniels, a Republican, has authorized changes to a 2006 legislation that legalizes the use of deadly force on a public servant — including an officer of the law — in cases of “unlawful intrusion.” Proponents of both the Second and Fourth Amendments — those that allow for the ownership of firearms and the security against unlawful searches, respectively — are celebrating the update by saying it ensures that residents are protected from authorities that abuse the powers of the badge.

    Others, however, fear that the alleged threat of a police state emergence will be replaced by an all-out warzone in Indiana.

    Under the latest changes of the so-called Castle Doctrine, state lawmakers agree “people have a right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and crime.” Rather than excluding officers of the law, however, any public servant is now subject to be met with deadly force if they unlawfully enter private property without clear justification.

    “In enacting this section, the general assembly finds and declares that it is the policy of this state to recognize the unique character of a citizen's home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant,” reads the legislation.

    Although critics have been quick to condemn the law for opening the door for assaults on police officers, supporters say that it is necessary to implement the ideals brought by America’s forefathers. Especially, argue some, since the Indiana Supreme Court almost eliminated the Fourth Amendment entirely last year. During the 2011 case of Barnes v. State of Indiana, the court ruled that a man who assaulted an officer dispatched to his house had broken the law before there was “no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.” In turn, the National Rifle Association lobbied for an amendment to the Castle Doctrine to ensure that residents were protected from officers that abuse the law to grant themselves entry into private space.

    “There are bad legislators,” the law’s author, State Senator R. Michael Young (R) tells Bloomberg News. “There are bad clergy, bad doctors, bad teachers, and it’s these officers that we’re concerned about that when they act outside their scope and duty that the individual ought to have a right to protect themselves.”

    Governor Daniels agrees with the senator in a statement offered through his office, and notes that the law is only being established to cover rare incidents of police abuse that can escape the system without reprimand for officers or other persons that break the law to gain entry.

    “In the real world, there will almost never be a situation in which these extremely narrow conditions are met,” Daniels says. “This law is not an invitation to use violence or force against law enforcement officers.”

    Officers in Indiana aren’t necessarily on the same page, though. “If I pull over a car and I walk up to it and the guy shoots me, he’s going to say, ‘Well, he was trying to illegally enter my property,’” Sergeant Joseph Hubbard tells Bloomberg. “Somebody is going get away with killing a cop because of this law.”

    “It’s just a recipe for disaster,” Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police President Tim Downs adds. “It just puts a bounty on our heads.”

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    So how do you go about it? Do you ask them if they have a warrant and if they say "no" you shoot them?

    Seems like either your source isn't doing proper research or law has loop holes.

    (I read only top half of wall of text)

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlek View Post
    So how do you go about it? Do you ask them if they have a warrant and if they say "no" you shoot them?

    Seems like either your source isn't doing proper research or law has loop holes.

    (I read only top half of wall of text)
    1 page, about 8 paragraphs is a wall of text? Do you read at a 3rd grade level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [LoD] EE View Post
    1 page, about 8 paragraphs is a wall of text? Do you read at a 3rd grade level?
    Yes. Now record this while using Morgan Freeman's voice and upload it on YT so I can listen to it.

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    Damn if they had a law like this in Maryland when I lived there, I'd have blasted building inspectors like rats. You'd look out in your backyard and see some cocksucker crawling under your deck/garage/house making sure everything was up to code and citing you for violations on your own property, monthly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlek View Post
    So how do you go about it? Do you ask them if they have a warrant and if they say "no" you shoot them?

    Seems like either your source isn't doing proper research or law has loop holes.

    (I read only top half of wall of text)
    No.. but in thecase of a no knock warrant and they enter the wrong house .. try shoot your wife and your dog, you can now legally defend yourself.

    and while you may find my example extreme. its actually happened a few times.


    Laws like this are the result of the ever expanding use of no knock warrants and sloppy execution of those warrants and the ever increasing militarization of our police force.. Half the time its over pot or some other minor bullshit.

    and to any of you stupid fucking cops reading this FUCK YOU. Now you better be REAL FUCKING SURE before you go breaking that door down.

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    Shouldn't you be crying tears of joy, EE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emolas View Post
    Shouldn't you be crying tears of joy, EE?
    Saving those tears of joy for the Kings in about 1 hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [LoD] EE View Post
    http://rt.com/usa/news/indiana-shooting-law-state-591/

    Hold onto your holsters, folks: shooting a cop dead is now legal in the state of Indiana.

    Governor Mitch Daniels, a Republican, has authorized changes to a 2006 legislation that legalizes the use of deadly force on a public servant — including an officer of the law — in cases of “unlawful intrusion.” Proponents of both the Second and Fourth Amendments — those that allow for the ownership of firearms and the security against unlawful searches, respectively — are celebrating the update by saying it ensures that residents are protected from authorities that abuse the powers of the badge.

    Others, however, fear that the alleged threat of a police state emergence will be replaced by an all-out warzone in Indiana.

    Under the latest changes of the so-called Castle Doctrine, state lawmakers agree “people have a right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and crime.” Rather than excluding officers of the law, however, any public servant is now subject to be met with deadly force if they unlawfully enter private property without clear justification.

    “In enacting this section, the general assembly finds and declares that it is the policy of this state to recognize the unique character of a citizen's home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant,” reads the legislation.

    Although critics have been quick to condemn the law for opening the door for assaults on police officers, supporters say that it is necessary to implement the ideals brought by America’s forefathers. Especially, argue some, since the Indiana Supreme Court almost eliminated the Fourth Amendment entirely last year. During the 2011 case of Barnes v. State of Indiana, the court ruled that a man who assaulted an officer dispatched to his house had broken the law before there was “no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.” In turn, the National Rifle Association lobbied for an amendment to the Castle Doctrine to ensure that residents were protected from officers that abuse the law to grant themselves entry into private space.

    “There are bad legislators,” the law’s author, State Senator R. Michael Young (R) tells Bloomberg News. “There are bad clergy, bad doctors, bad teachers, and it’s these officers that we’re concerned about that when they act outside their scope and duty that the individual ought to have a right to protect themselves.”

    Governor Daniels agrees with the senator in a statement offered through his office, and notes that the law is only being established to cover rare incidents of police abuse that can escape the system without reprimand for officers or other persons that break the law to gain entry.

    “In the real world, there will almost never be a situation in which these extremely narrow conditions are met,” Daniels says. “This law is not an invitation to use violence or force against law enforcement officers.”

    Officers in Indiana aren’t necessarily on the same page, though. “If I pull over a car and I walk up to it and the guy shoots me, he’s going to say, ‘Well, he was trying to illegally enter my property,’” Sergeant Joseph Hubbard tells Bloomberg. “Somebody is going get away with killing a cop because of this law.”

    “It’s just a recipe for disaster,” Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police President Tim Downs adds. “It just puts a bounty on our heads.”
    This is going to end soooooooooo well. 150 cops die every year in the US. Watch that jump to 150 in Indiana.

    No.. but in thecase of a no knock warrant and they enter the wrong house .. try shoot your wife and your dog, you can now legally defend yourself.
    yeah it's gonna work so well when you try to reach that gun and take 10 in the chest, 3 in the face and 2 in the kneecaps.
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    this is good, will stop bad cops from kicking in doors without warrants, beating up those who are weaker than them, being over dickheads
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomed44 View Post
    this is good, will stop bad cops from kicking in doors without warrants, beating up those who are weaker than them, being over dickheads
    We dont have that kind of law here and our cops are notoriously better then yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok Delrhe View Post
    We dont have that kind of law here and our cops are notoriously better then yours.
    because most of your criminals are here for half of the year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatdane View Post
    because most of your criminals are here for half of the year
    huahuahuahua. What a fucking retarded statement.

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