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    Are there many people that have changed their view on sept 11 over the years? Whether it's believed that it was terrorists from other countries and now believe it was an inside job? Or visa versa?


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    When I was like 18 I actually fell for conspiracy bullshit theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nizzie View Post
    When I was like 18 I actually fell for conspiracy bullshit theories.
    So you just don't have the drive to take part in the conversation, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nunz View Post
    So you just don't have the drive to take part in the conversation, then?
    Not with 9/11 conspiracy theorists, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nizzie View Post
    Not with 9/11 conspiracy theorists, no.

    Seeking out factual information has nothing to do with being a conspiracy theorist. I would say that the conspiracy is within the people who perpetuate lies and ignorance.

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    My view on 9/11 has changed a lot. It happened when I was in the 5th grade. I couldn't really grasp what had happened. Once I got into middle school, I believed it to be the work of terrorists based off of a misled view. I thought we were the good guys, and they were the bad guys.

    Now, after having graduated highschool, I can see quite clearly. No, 9/11 wasn't an inside job. No, it wasn't a plan by our government to go to war in the middle east. What 9/11 is a part of is our horrible economic policy. How is that you ask? Well let me answer.

    Much of our economy is based off of military, and being able to enforce trade agreements. Much of the worlds' economy is based off of our militarism as well. South korea and Europe for example. Why would europe or SK spend a lot of money on military when the united states has a large, and very nuclear presence all around the world? The American military indirectly subsidizes for much of the socialism around the world because of the deferred spending.

    Now, and to wrap up what could be a very long philosophical treatise, I state just one thing. 9/11 is blowback for our military and interventionalist policies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suncross View Post
    My view on 9/11 has changed a lot. It happened when I was in the 5th grade. I couldn't really grasp what had happened. Once I got into middle school, I believed it to be the work of terrorists based off of a misled view. I thought we were the good guys, and they were the bad guys.

    Now, after having graduated highschool, I can see quite clearly. No, 9/11 wasn't an inside job. No, it wasn't a plan by our government to go to war in the middle east. What 9/11 is a part of is our horrible economic policy. How is that you ask? Well let me answer.

    Much of our economy is based off of military, and being able to enforce trade agreements. Much of the worlds' economy is based off of our militarism as well. South korea and Europe for example. Why would europe or SK spend a lot of money on military when the united states has a large, and very nuclear presence all around the world? The American military indirectly subsidizes for much of the socialism around the world because of the deferred spending.

    Now, and to wrap up what could be a very long philosophical treatise, I state just one thing. 9/11 is blowback for our military and interventionalist policies.
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    Nope. Always had the view that it was just religious extremists flying into a tower, and conspiracies beyond that don't hold weight.

    This doesn't include your economic answer, Suncross, that sounds legit.

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    Just for shits and giggles.


    Did you guys who have never changed you opinion take the 10 minutes to watch that video?

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    I don't necessarily believe any of the conspiracy theories, however the information used to formulate them has enough bits of truth to it that one thing to me is clear; there are plenty of lies and inconsistencies with regard to the official story.

    However, I don't feel they are enough to claim "zomg government did it" but rather reason to question it and to be interested in more information.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100

    This is a clip from that video with Larry Silverstien.

    How were they able to set up the explosives so quickly to pull the building?

    How was it possible to set up the explosives properly if there were fires in the building?

    Just an inconsistency that popped out at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damedius View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100

    This is a clip from that video with Larry Silverstien.

    How were they able to set up the explosives so quickly to pull the building?

    How was it possible to set up the explosives properly if there were fires in the building?

    Just an inconsistency that popped out at me.
    Building 7 had 9 months of repairs on their elevator systems prior to 9/11. It's in the video I posted.

    Whether there were explosions set or not, I have no idea. But there were people there who had the ability to set the explosions during the appropriate time table.
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    Conspiracies happen but people who tend to believe in conspiracies tend to believe in all of them. Which destroyes their credibility. I believe 9/11 was a blowback for our actions. I don't think the government needs a 9/11 event to do what they do but they certainly take advantage of it when it comes along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverhandorder View Post
    Conspiracies happen but people who tend to believe in conspiracies tend to believe in all of them. Which destroyes their credibility. I believe 9/11 was a blowback for our actions. I don't think the government needs a 9/11 event to do what they do but they certainly take advantage of it when it comes along.
    I would definitely agree that powers within our government took advantage of 9/11 but there's evidence to suggest that there was knowledge prior to 9/11 that something was either happening or going to happen.
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    I really just hate being lied to, tbh.

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