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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    lol. Obama was put on a pedestal from day one by MSM. But welcome back from your trip to the moon.
    He earned his spot there because he catered to the crowds he talked to. The same publicity is the reason why most people against him were not surprised when he got into office he did what he did.

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    I inform friends, family, relatives and people I just met.
    I can guarantee the message you deliver isn't a very good one just from the years of reading your side on these forums.

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    Those two examples are great. They show exactly how the general population believes anything as long as it's told from a square box and a man reading lines on a teleprompter.
    How are they great examples? I'm pretty sure a lot of people do not believe there was WMDs in Iraq anymore and the whole change you can believe in... Minus the WMD fiscal the other I seen argued for and against during his 2008 campaign countless times on the msm.

    This subject isn't even worth really touching because the media outlets are just mouth pieces for government agenda and I agree with you on that, but on most issues you'll get analysis from most the political spectrums.

    The real problem is the fact both parties have very little difference in them and the fact people aren't willing to vote for a candidate they know will lose. Also the bigger problem is the lack of interest in voting in the younger generations because of the former or the fact they just don't care. Besides the lack of voters who aren't among the uneducated the problem here is there is no person in the median willing to work on trying to change the problems slowly and instead talk about shit that deters people away from them, a good example being Ron Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja Chicken View Post
    I want to take an axe and decapitate every fucking politician that is ignorant and guided by personal belief instead of the citizens beliefs.
    Liar, you want someone else to do it for you. If you were remotely planning to actually do this, you'd not be posting on a forum.
    GTFO, seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqarak View Post
    Liar, you want someone else to do it for you. If you were remotely planning to actually do this, you'd not be posting on a forum.
    GTFO, seriously.
    No.
    Because you can't just "get one" and then go to jail, see ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipatama View Post
    No.
    Because you can't just "get one" and then go to jail, see ?
    Revolution should not be arranged for convenience. If you clearly believe you must rise up, call everyone who believes the contrary a sheep or worse, then you better make sure you actually going to do something yourself.
    There are two kinds of idealists that annoy me without end. Saloon-Socialists and Armchair-Revolutionaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqarak View Post
    Revolution should not be arranged for convenience. If you clearly believe you must rise up, call everyone who believes the contrary a sheep or worse, then you better make sure you actually going to do something yourself.
    There are two kinds of idealists that annoy me without end. Saloon-Socialists and Armchair-Revolutionaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja Chicken View Post
    I'm pretty sure in the next twenty years nearly all of our freedoms, liberties and general definition as a person will have faded. The Goverment was founded upon the ideal of regulating, helping and supporting citizens. It has fallen to the point of controlling, moderating, herding, taxing, arresting, abusing the citizens.....
    USA is a special case. The freedom you initially got was mostly due to the country being diverse, underdeveloped and underpopulated IMO, not because of religious persecution in Europe which I think is the dogmatic explanation.

    Freedom in USA is a cultural remnant, not the cultural cornerstone people seem to think it is and which it was in up until somewhere between the revolution and before the civil war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makestro View Post
    He earned his spot there because he catered to the crowds he talked to. The same publicity is the reason why most people against him were not surprised when he got into office he did what he did.
    Earned his spot? Fuck lol. He's a puppet. He was chosen by his masters for his charisma and ability to teleprompt in a convincing way.
    To make things even less credible the election was old unsympathetic fart determined on war vs young charismatic idol with promises of peace.
    I can guarantee the message you deliver isn't a very good one just from the years of reading your side on these forums.
    My message is that the world only perceived through one side of the fence is a false one.

    How are they great examples? I'm pretty sure a lot of people do not believe there was WMDs in Iraq anymore and the whole change you can believe in... Minus the WMD fiscal the other I seen argued for and against during his 2008 campaign countless times on the msm.
    You have trouble understanding the words "general population"?

    This subject isn't even worth really touching because the media outlets are just mouth pieces for government agenda and I agree with you on that, but on most issues you'll get analysis from most the political spectrums.
    The political spectrum being the same at both poles. Only cut out to make it seem there's a difference.

    The real problem is the fact both parties have very little difference in them and the fact people aren't willing to vote for a candidate they know will lose.
    How do they know they will lose? Ohh that's right. The one sided media told them and thus their one sided opinion is formulated.

    Also the bigger problem is the lack of interest in voting in the younger generations because of the former or the fact they just don't care.
    Ron Paul changed that and the establishment will have their hands full trying to keep their corrupt ways in the years to come. Nothing that can't be fixed with a false flag or two though.

    Besides the lack of voters who aren't among the uneducated the problem here is there is no person in the median willing to work on trying to change the problems slowly and instead talk about shit that deters people away from them, a good example being Ron Paul.
    Ron Paul would take it slowly. He has explicitly stated many times that he knows he can't rip many of the corrupt institutions to pieces over night as many many government dependent people rely on them. Coincidently these people only became dependent on government through establishment policies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeking View Post
    USA is a special case. The freedom you initially got was mostly due to the country being diverse, underdeveloped and underpopulated IMO, not because of religious persecution in Europe which I think is the dogmatic explanation.

    Freedom in USA is a cultural remnant, not the cultural cornerstone people seem to think it is and which it was in up until somewhere between the revolution and before the civil war.
    Freedom is a cultural remnant you guys... Fuck independent thinking and free speech. Those are a thing of the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipatama View Post
    i'm so sad that you don't like me.
    This is OT, love comes here to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    Freedom is a cultural remnant you guys... Fuck independent thinking and free speech. Those are a thing of the past.
    Or people can stop being deluded about how Americans love freedom and do something.
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    The ignorance is too saturated. It has to be destroyed and then rebuilt. Bring it on baby! I cant wait! Vote neo-con or big bank liberal it doesn't fucking matter, either way you are helping the cause of speeding up our demise so we can rebuild anew.

    Some may say that 'bla bla you're dumb society wont fall apart'. Well we are riddled with unsustainable practices and nature has a nasty habit of correcting said practices.

    What happens when there's no more oil? Everyone gonna twiddle their thumbs while they think of a new energy? No, every nation will be at each others throats like the junkies we are. Its only a matter of time, and not in future generations, it will be in OUR generation.
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    Obama gave a speech this morning with a bunch of sob stories where the message was basically the govt should take care of anything bad that happens to people.

    The scary part is all the people who would agree with this kind of thing, and would vote for a guy who proposes it, because in theory it sounds great, but nobody does adds up the costs (or it's deceptively lowballed, like with Obamacare).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja Chicken View Post
    Another one? Pfft. It's the repetition of revolutionary mental tactics which will ensure idiots like you aren't being fed slop from the cock of the authority.
    Who doesnt like cock slop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja Chicken View Post
    I want to take an axe and decapitate every fucking politician that is ignorant and guided by personal belief instead of the citizens beliefs. I'm sick of stupid, dumb-ass sheep voting and supporting individuals in their endevors to essentially hate fuck the shit out of their own people.
    I would rather have politicians that follow their own moral compass and sense of justice than obsequiously caving to constituents. Most of those 'dumbass sheep' have backwards views, lacking both the knowledge required to reach an educated political stance and the rationality to accept it. Unfortunately, this leads to elected officials that exemplify mediocrity, but such is the nature of a republic in which the citizens themselves are thus limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    Or maybe you should listen up and take the trend more serious.

    What happens when parents and schools succeed at "educating" children from their one side world view?

    A rotten corrupt society emerges. Filling the world with death, foreclosures and poor peoples money end up in the pocket of a cigar smoking suit that had responsibility in the ordeal.
    So you're attributing all the evils in the world to education? This is why we can't have nice things.
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