I don't remember.
It's fine that you Euros have different laws and they work for you. But here in America, our culture is different. So please don't try to spread your countries laws to ours.
Last edited by The Cannibal; 04-11-2012 at 22:37.
I suppose I shouldn't say EVERY, due to there probably being some small town I don't know about that has harsh gun laws and prolly benefits from it.
Last edited by The Cannibal; 04-11-2012 at 23:30.
As for Europe in general, I couldn't give a toss, I'm thankful I live in the UK, a country you dont feel the need to have a gun to feel safe, hell even our police don't carry arms in like 98% of the country.
it's a bit outdated, but gun control laws don't seem to have as much of an impact as either side of the argument would like to think
everyone is going to point out specific cities or regions that supports their line of thinking, when there are other areas that show contrasting or neutral trends
Here's some real facts about gun ownership, and safety, and then some links to some recent studies.
Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed, THAT IS A FACT, an undeniable reality, that can backed up with countless facts, none of which can be easily distorted. Gun ownership is simply not safe statistically, I'm sorry those are the facts.
Packing heat may backfire. People who carry guns are far likelier to get shot – and killed – than those who are unarmed. Just check out some of the data from this recent study Branas Gun Study 2009
Here's an except from some of the main points, but please read the results yourself, in fact that is why I include a link. Get some facts man, not rhetoric. Even if you are pro-guns, you really need to have accurate data, not made up bullshit.
It would be impractical – not to say unethical – to randomly assign volunteers to carry a gun or not and see what happens. So Charles Branas's team at the University of Pennsylvania analysed 677 shootings over two-and-a-half years to discover whether victims were carrying at the time, and compared them to other Philly residents of similar age, sex and ethnicity. The team also accounted for other potentially confounding differences, such as the socioeconomic status of their neighbourhood.
Despite the US having the highest rate of firearms-related homicide in the industrialised world, the relationship between gun culture and violence is poorly understood. A recent study found that treating violence like an infectious disease led to a dramatic fall in shootings and killings.
Overall, Branas's study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens. When the team looked at shootings in which victims had a chance to defend themselves, their odds of getting shot were even higher.
While it may be that the type of people who carry firearms are simply more likely to get shot, it may be that guns give a sense of empowerment that causes carriers to overreact in tense situations, or encourages them to visit neighbourhoods they probably shouldn't, Branas speculates.
additional links -
Does carrying a gun make you safer?
What are the links between gun ownership and gun assaults?
New results say gun ownership is dangerous
If you feel like it is your right to have a gun I can handle that, that is your constitutional right, but you can;t just lie about them. You must accept that they are dangerous, and if you have one you have increased your chances of being shot by 400 or 500%...period. Constitutional? Yes. Safe, or a practical deterrent to violence? Absolutely not, and even the NRA can't find anything to back up the dumb shit you're spouting (and they've tried)
Last edited by Dankshasta; 04-12-2012 at 05:11.