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    Default Neo-Nazi's 10-year-old son charged with his murder

    A 10-year-old boy charged with murdering his father at their home in California was being exposed to his father's extreme neo-Nazi ideology of racism and violence at the time he allegedly turned a gun against him.

    Evidence is mounting that Jeff Hall, 32, a white supremacist who led the National Socialist Movement in the south-west of the US, was involving his son in neo-Nazi activities before his death on 1 May.

    A possible link between the group's violent messages and the shooting – an act exceptionally rare for a child as young as 10 – could be an important factor in the boy's trial.

    Police were called to the Halls' home in Riverside, California, outside Los Angeles, shortly after 4am last Sunday, where they found Hall dead on a sofa. He had been shot with the family handgun.

    Hall used his home as the headquarters of the NSM, one of America's largest and most influential neo-Nazi groups. A reporter for the New York Times witnessed Hall preaching race hatred at a meeting in front of the boy, his eldest of five children, a day before the shooting. Hall told the newspaper he was teaching the boy how to use a gun as well as night-vision gear and had given him a belt bearing Nazi SS insignia.

    According to the Southern Poverty Law Centre, which monitors extreme right-wing groups, the NSM has a track record of recruiting very young children into its activities that surpasses that of any other organisation in the US. The party has created a children's wing called Viking Youth Corps, which is open to boys and girls with the proviso that they must be of European descent and the offspring of NSM members, or have their parents' consent.

    The boy, unnamed by authorities due to his age, will be tried in a juvenile court. The local paper, the Press-Enterprise, described him as a "shaggy blond-haired, small, skinny, baby-faced boy". His defence lawyer indicated that he might pursue a plea of not guilty for reasons of insanity.

    The boy's parents had been through a bitter divorce, and Hall and his former wife, Leticia Neal, had accused each other of abusing the child. The family has been monitored by social services since 2003.

    The NSM was founded in 1994 and has grown in prominence over seven years. It now has about 400 members in 32 states. It advocates open race hatred, calling for the expatriation of all non-whites in America, and preaching antisemitism. Until 2007 its members wore Nazi uniforms with swastika armbands, but now wear black battle dress.

    Hall, a plumber, was a prominent party member, involved in vigilantism along the Mexican border, organising patrols hunting illegal migrants. His house regularly attracted anti-racist protesters and he had put surveillance cameras on the property's exterior walls to keep guard on them. Hall's ashes are expected to be scattered along the Mexican border as a final political statement.

    Jeff Schoep, NSM leader, described the dead man on the movement's website as a "dedicated father, his children were his life". He added: "See you in Valhalla!"
    The gun he used to shoot his father was legal, one of many in the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenman View Post
    The gun he used to shoot his father was legal, one of many in the house.
    Lets ban guns right? Or... Mr daddy got what he deserved for not locking up his guns and treating the boys mom like trash?

    Also. Isn't this months old? Sure we had this up before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    Lets ban guns right? Or... Mr daddy got what he deserved for not locking up his guns and treating the boys mom like trash?

    Also. Isn't this months old? Sure we had this up before.
    I agree, the guy got what he deserved by treating his family like trash.

    On the other hand, I commend the guy for taking the time to go down and hunt illegals. If only we had the military down there doing the job the border patrol is not allowed to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    Lets ban guns right? Or... Mr daddy got what he deserved for not locking up his guns and treating the boys mom like trash?

    Also. Isn't this months old? Sure we had this up before.
    I'm all for responsibly owning guns, don't take me wrong.

    Clearly the gun was easily accessible to the boy and that is the issue at hand.

    I wanted also show that legal guns are used in crimes as well, and not only by mexicans.

    You could wonder how many mexicans were murdered on the border by that man.
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    It's America, what do u expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenman View Post

    You could wonder how many illegals were stopped on the border by that man.
    Not enough, they are still streaming over. Apparently the message didnt get out.
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    My condolences to EE and his family in this difficult time.

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    If things are so bad why don't you move? Seriously, everything you post makes the U.S. seem like a massive shit hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88Chaz88 View Post
    If things are so bad why don't you move? Seriously, everything you post makes the U.S. seem like it is turning into a massive shit hole.
    Fixed it for you.

    And be like the illegals and run from the problem instead of fixing it? Running from a problem doesnt fix the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [LoD] EE View Post
    Fixed it for you.

    And be like the illegals and run from the problem instead of fixing it? Running from a problem doesnt fix the problem.
    But running from the problem means you never have to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88Chaz88 View Post
    But running from the problem means you never have to deal with it.
    Doesnt make the problem go away.

    You cant wish, hope and pray the problem away, if you could, Obama would no longer be in office.

    Running isnt serving Mexico or the other southern countries well.
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    "See you in Valhalla!"

    Yeah, no fatso american nazi will get to valhalla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [LoD] EE View Post
    Doesnt make the problem go away.

    You cant wish, hope and pray the problem away, if you could, Obama would no longer be in office.

    Running isnt serving Mexico or the other southern countries well.
    So? You'd be sipping wine while watching French porn and stroking your completely legal firearm in Switzerland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88Chaz88 View Post
    So? You'd be sipping wine while watching French porn and stroking your completely legal firearm in Switzerland.
    I dont drink wine or any alcohol, I dont like french porn, hairy mime women dont do it for me, if by stroking my firearm you mean penis, then yes but not to Swiss chicks, not a fan on the blondes, I like darker hair.
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