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    Did ya'll know that each year 60% of american citizens receive more monetary aid from the government than they pay in taxes?

    Meaning, 40% of american citizens are putting 60% of american citizens on their backs financially.

    Do you believe that government programs such as medicaid, section 8 housing, etc. will further skew this ratio for the worse? I certainly do.

    Isn't this a huge "lightbulb" illuminating some liberal/socialist flaws in our government?

    I'm not very educated on this matter, but I am certainly a conservative. Can anyone shed some light on an angle I might be missing?

    To be clear, I'm not trying to argue, or even debate; I would just like some more perspective.

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    Socialism is designed to create a class of people who cannot dissent, because they would die otherwise (they think so, anyway). Don't bite that hand that feeds you, and all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philipc4 View Post
    Did ya'll know that each year 60% of american citizens receive more monetary aid from the government than they pay in taxes?

    Meaning, 40% of american citizens are putting 60% of american citizens on their backs financially.

    Do you believe that government programs such as medicaid, section 8 housing, etc. will further skew this ratio for the worse? I certainly do.

    Isn't this a huge "lightbulb" illuminating some liberal/socialist flaws in our government?

    I'm not very educated on this matter, but I am certainly a conservative. Can anyone shed some light on an angle I might be missing?

    To be clear, I'm not trying to argue, or even debate; I would just like some more perspective.
    Maybe if the U.S goverment were not so shit at helping the people that need help most, and giving people a fair oppertunity in life no matter their background. More people wouldn't need support? Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philipc4 View Post
    Did ya'll know that each year 60% of american citizens receive more monetary aid from the government than they pay in taxes?

    Meaning, 40% of american citizens are putting 60% of american citizens on their backs financially.

    Do you believe that government programs such as medicaid, section 8 housing, etc. will further skew this ratio for the worse? I certainly do.

    Isn't this a huge "lightbulb" illuminating some liberal/socialist flaws in our government?

    I'm not very educated on this matter, but I am certainly a conservative. Can anyone shed some light on an angle I might be missing?

    To be clear, I'm not trying to argue, or even debate; I would just like some more perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philipc4 View Post
    Did ya'll know that each year 60% of american citizens receive more monetary aid from the government than they pay in taxes?

    Meaning, 40% of american citizens are putting 60% of american citizens on their backs financially.

    Do you believe that government programs such as medicaid, section 8 housing, etc. will further skew this ratio for the worse? I certainly do.

    Isn't this a huge "lightbulb" illuminating some liberal/socialist flaws in our government?

    I'm not very educated on this matter, but I am certainly a conservative. Can anyone shed some light on an angle I might be missing?

    What a factually charged and amazingly insightful post.

    Wow, random OT-newbie. You've changed my fucking life.

    Quote Originally Posted by philipc4 View Post
    I'm not very educated on this matter
    In all seriousness, this line was probably the only thing that was actually worth a shit in your entire post, but really didn't need to be stated. The content of your post alone made your lack of education abundantly clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattMystrieo View Post
    Maybe if the U.S goverment were not so shit at helping the people that need help most, and giving people a fair oppertunity in life no matter their background. More people wouldn't need support? Just a thought.
    Maybe the problem is that the more welfare we have, the more people we have on welfare? What, did you think 60% of the population was living on the streets before we started throwing imaginary money around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattMystrieo View Post
    Maybe if the U.S goverment were not so shit at helping the people that need help most, and giving people a fair oppertunity in life no matter their background. More people wouldn't need support? Just a thought.
    Everyone does have a fair chance. No ones fault but their own that they squander it.
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    Maybe the government could reject all those who come to the hospital with a life style disease, because it really is their own fault.
    Then they could get some more moneys.
    It would help but they are too afraid to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philipc4 View Post
    Did ya'll know that each year 60% of american citizens receive more monetary aid from the government than they pay in taxes?

    Meaning, 40% of american citizens are putting 60% of american citizens on their backs financially.

    Do you believe that government programs such as medicaid, section 8 housing, etc. will further skew this ratio for the worse? I certainly do.

    Isn't this a huge "lightbulb" illuminating some liberal/socialist flaws in our government?

    I'm not very educated on this matter, but I am certainly a conservative. Can anyone shed some light on an angle I might be missing?

    To be clear, I'm not trying to argue, or even debate; I would just like some more perspective.
    Did you have a source to this claim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [LoD] EE View Post
    Everyone does have a fair chance. No ones fault but their own that they squander it.
    You mean no ones fault but the state's.

    They made their populace diaper dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [LoD] EE View Post
    Everyone does have a fair chance. No ones fault but their own that they squander it.
    I would argue not. If your born into some shitty ghetto where the culture is just drugs, tits, and gun violance. The public school is run down and fucked. And you've got no proper place to go to get infomation or help, how do you have as fair a chance as some lad born into a middle class family in the suberbs? The goverment and the people shouldn't just ignore the huge sections of society that are buggerd, the easy thing to do is just say "yea. That's there own fault", by saying that you leave those places and people to be run down and bring the nation with it. The goverment should put money into making places in their own country less God awful and make sure everybody has the same chance to contribute. Rather than ending up in prison and being a drain on the system.

    Maybe the problem is that the more welfare we have, the more people we have on welfare? What, did you think 60% of the population was living on the streets before we started throwing imaginary money around?
    No they were just dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [LoD] EE View Post
    Everyone does have a fair chance. No ones fault but their own that they squander it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boring -.- View Post
    Maybe the government could reject all those who come to the hospital with a life style disease, because it really is their own fault.
    Then they could get some more moneys.
    It would help but they are too afraid to do it.
    Maybe we could get rid of our horseshit lawsuit policies that raise medical expenses to levels most people can't afford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bissen View Post
    You mean no ones fault but the state's.

    They made their populace diaper dependent.
    No, people had the chance to make something of themselves, they made the choice not to. The problem is, the bleeding hearts out there who want to help the whole fucking world why this country goes into the shitter. Think of the illegals, think of the Canadians, think of this, think of that but never, Think about what all this is doing to the tax payer.

    Our government didnt do it to us, WE DID. We as a nation voted for these programs. Its our fault just as much as its theirs for having child after child on the tax payers dime.

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