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    Would some of you well informed folk debunk this? Im still looking for a loophole somewhere in that whole argument, I haven't found one yet.

    http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/2...erma-for-long/

    http://climateprogress.org/2010/03/0...shelf-venting/

    Any reason to raise the alarm?
    Is it too late?
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    Global warming is a snowball/domino-effect.


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    Is it too late?
    On paper, no, but in actuality, probably. By relying on our current aptitude of absorbing information about our environment and properly reacting to it, we're doomed. If humanity somehow makes a 180 and focuses on its survival as a whole instead of the survival of 7 billion individuals, we might be able to realize what's happening around us and react before it's too late.

    Ya, it's probably too late.
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    Still waiting on a reply to help me back into my bliss realm of ignorance.

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    its true bro

    only some outstanding retarded armerican might try to debunk this
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    So now...who's still crazy enough to take the risk?

    Actually it may no longer be just a risk and seems and more like fatality.

    Still it just "seems" so.

    What I really want to know is, who's crazy enough to attempt at forcing a real verification of risk to fatality?

    Like, right now.

    Things come to mind:

    Stop and leave your car.
    Stop buying into mass agriculture.
    Stop consuming mass processed industrial goods.
    ...

    I mean we're evidently crazy motherfuckers, why not do it the other way round?
    It might just be enough to save it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nizzie View Post
    An Armenian living in the US? Or someone like EE?
    armerican like ee, yes
    trying to stop global warming with his firepower
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBungle View Post
    Would some of you well informed folk debunk this? Im still looking for a loophole somewhere in that whole argument, I haven't found one yet.

    http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/2...erma-for-long/

    http://climateprogress.org/2010/03/0...shelf-venting/

    Any reason to raise the alarm?
    Is it too late?
    "A Project of Center for American Progress Action Fund'

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletToothTony View Post
    "A Project of Center for American Progress Action Fund'

    I try to get my science from scienctist's just not chick scienctist's because that makes no sense.
    Do share.

    Edit: A nice debate:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJway...feature=fvwrel
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    I don't think we're the cause of climate change... since studies have shown co2 is healthy for the planet as a whole and our sun affects the weather/climate more than we're giving it credit for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makestro View Post
    I don't think we're the cause of climate change... since studies have shown co2 is healthy for the planet as a whole and our sun affects the weather/climate more than we're giving it credit for.
    Link to your first point please, and your second point is a straw man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esudar View Post
    armerican like ee, yes
    trying to stop global warming with his firepower
    Global Warming is utter bullshit.

    Its been getting warmer since the last ice age. Lets blame Earth for the warming on other planets like Jupiter, Mars and Saturn.

    Only good a gun will do is to take care of Gore and all others who made up this scheme to get rich on fools like you.
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    Climate Change is real. Unfortunately, it's not man made and cannot be averted.

    The earth goes through major climate shifts as it travels through it's orbit. Poles shift over time, the axis wobbles constantly and there is no reason to expect things will remain the same forever.

    There are some man made factors, though. A weakening ozone layer and magnetic interference with the Schumann resonance means a weaker protection field for the Earth that would protect against solar flares and such events.

    Crustal shifts, earthquakes.. the earth cannot sustain it's current geography under the influence of such constant pressures placed upon it. It would be foolhardy to think so.

    Yes, things will change. It will be very subtle unless something major happens. Massive earthquake in the wrong place sparking tidal waves, comets, etc. It's happened before, and it will happen again.

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    Try to make a bit clearer..

    Man made influences that would weaken the Schumann resonance.. satellites, radio waves, etc.. would cause the resonance to weaken. If an electromagnetic storm from the sun were to bombard the Earth with a massive punch, it could be disastrous.

    Solar storms, etc, shoot out from the sun all the time and bring with them cosmic radiation that earth protects against with it's own magnetic field. If we weaken that field, and a large storm erupts on the sun and "punches" the earth, our magnetic pole MAY actually shift a large degree. For example, your compasses True North could point towards Shanghai, not the north pole.

    To compensate for such an event, the actual physical pole would gradually shift. The north Pole would be, say, more to the south west, and the new North Pole could become, say California.. and you'd have to go west from California to reach Mexico.

    And assuming none of that happens, the earth will still change regardless due to events here on Earth I describe in my last post. Earthquakes, crustal shifts, etc. For example, if everything goes relatively well, in one billion years the entire north American continent could be split in half from the Mississippi and west. California could become an island, the North Pole could become a habitable environment.. just from natural forces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyMan View Post
    Climate Change is real. Unfortunately, it's not man made and cannot be averted.
    We are making it go faster.
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