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    Quote Originally Posted by Falokis View Post
    I don't mind these new towers, but I still hate the ones at chaos banks.
    ...if it has a tower it's not a chaos bank. Fix your alignment or quit QQing

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    More damage from towers May mean that its harder to raid a city

    May mean you have to take better gear to raid a city and more people

    May stop the one person jumping into a city and trying to cause havok

    May mean defenders face larger groups more often

    May mean be a good thing to help out clans in thier own city a bit as atm they dont actualy get any help

    Hamlet towers may mean that smaller clans now can effectivly own a hamlet and defend it if they have no where else to base them selves (important point that is not considered i think)

    May be a bad thing

    May be a good thing

    .... hmm im not sure if its December or May anymore... maybe ill just WAIT FOR THE FUCKING EXPANSION




    (yer should have posted this way before patch day but im lazy - not long to wait now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    You can harvest with gear and retaliate. Harvesting naked in safe spots is the carebear part of this story.
    That would be great! But only if you have some kind of warning that they are coming. The reason people harvest naked is because there are no "safe spots" and even if they geared up they probably wouldn't get a chance to fight back. Let's be serious here: If 3 or more people sync attacks on you before even know they are there it's hopeless. You just lost over half your HP and all you know is that there is more than one person behind you. Only an idiot would gear up and then alt-tab out without some kind of way to get warning that PvP is happening soon and only an extreme loser with no life would stare intently at the screen that is just showing a progress bar over and over and look around constantly for hours while harvesting. You need to be able to be alt-tabbed out and still have a decent chance at getting a few seconds warning before they hit you. Otherwise you're just donating gear to people who think it's l33t to PK AFKs. Why would you give extra gear to losers like that in order to harvest the materials that are *required* to play parts of the game?

    Or harvesting needs to be completely reimagined so that it requires active player interaction and isn't insanely boring. Otherwise naked harvesting in a relatively safe place is the only way to go for anyone who isn't a moron and/or loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FKNCrazy View Post
    What the fuck are you talking about?
    My clan has 55 members, maybe 35 - 40 actives total and we protect our city round the clock no problem. We defended it around the clock when it had no walls, no guard towers. The only time it gets successfully raided is when people bring 20+ (more like 30+).
    If you can't gear up and defend your city with the help of fucking retarded guard towers you deserve to die to the better player
    if by "better player" you mean "guy who has no life and plays video games too much" then you have a point. Not a good one, but you're at least making sense. If you by "better player" you mean any of the following: good aim, good strategy, good teamwork, stealth, cunning, skill, etc then you're wrong. None of those things have anything to do with guarding a city while semi-afk for hours a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarnaoum View Post
    Afk-crafters don't deserve any particular protections(
    Because people who stare at progress bars while crafting are l33t, hardcore, people. Getting bored of the progress bar, reading the flood of system messages, and listening to the sound of your own crafting hoping to hear footsteps is a sign that you are a carebear. l33t PvPers ENJOY doing non-interactive PvE tasks relishing the fact that someone might come and donate additional gear to help them craft more. Doing something more meaningful with your life instead of watching a progress bar is a sign of weakness and should be punished!

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    Fighting guard towers is not PvP.

    Player Cities & Hamlets are not meant to be safe havens for afk crafting & macroing regardless of how boring it might be.

    If a player wants to afk craft/macro in their city, then they've made their choice to be afk. Deal with the risk & don't expect otherwise.

    If a clan of players are naked & continually getting killed in their own city and unable to gear up because 1-4 geared raiders have locked down the bank....then they deserve to lose if their clan/alliance cannot kill them.

    If you cannot police yourself & your city/hamlet, then it was not yours to begin with.

    There are not supposed to be any safe places in DFO --- not even the starter cities.


    The problem is, in most gamers, in an effort to accomodate the ceaseless whining carebears the devs will continually make alterations that eventually fuck up the PvP.

    Sadly the carebears fail to realize that in a PvP system that most of the "problems" that carebears like to whine about are dealt with & handled perfectly fine by the skilled/competent players.

    Unfortunately, the carebears would rather have in-game blanket protection mechanisms enforced upon the server to not have free action due to a plethora of game contraints that will eventually give the carebear the safe haven which is ultimately desired....despite all their bullshit "for the good of the game" rhetoric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deca View Post
    Fighting guard towers is not PvP.

    Player Cities & Hamlets are not meant to be safe havens for afk crafting & macroing regardless of how boring it might be.

    If a player wants to afk craft/macro in their city, then they've made their choice to be afk. Deal with the risk & don't expect otherwise.

    If a clan of players are naked & continually getting killed in their own city and unable to gear up because 1-4 geared raiders have locked down the bank....then they deserve to lose if their clan/alliance cannot kill them.

    If you cannot police yourself & your city/hamlet, then it was not yours to begin with.

    There are not supposed to be any safe places in DFO --- not even the starter cities.


    The problem is, in most gamers, in an effort to accomodate the ceaseless whining carebears the devs will continually make alterations that eventually fuck up the PvP.

    Sadly the carebears fail to realize that in a PvP system that most of the "problems" that carebears like to whine about are dealt with & handled perfectly fine by the skilled/competent players.

    Unfortunately, the carebears would rather have in-game blanket protection mechanisms enforced upon the server to not have free action due to a plethora of game contraints that will eventually give the carebear the safe haven which is ultimately desired....despite all their bullshit "for the good of the game" rhetoric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deca View Post
    Fighting guard towers is not PvP.

    Player Cities & Hamlets are not meant to be safe havens for afk crafting & macroing regardless of how boring it might be.

    If a player wants to afk craft/macro in their city, then they've made their choice to be afk. Deal with the risk & don't expect otherwise.

    If a clan of players are naked & continually getting killed in their own city and unable to gear up because 1-4 geared raiders have locked down the bank....then they deserve to lose if their clan/alliance cannot kill them.

    If you cannot police yourself & your city/hamlet, then it was not yours to begin with.

    There are not supposed to be any safe places in DFO --- not even the starter cities.


    The problem is, in most gamers, in an effort to accomodate the ceaseless whining carebears the devs will continually make alterations that eventually fuck up the PvP.

    Sadly the carebears fail to realize that in a PvP system that most of the "problems" that carebears like to whine about are dealt with & handled perfectly fine by the skilled/competent players.

    Unfortunately, the carebears would rather have in-game blanket protection mechanisms enforced upon the server to not have free action due to a plethora of game contraints that will eventually give the carebear the safe haven which is ultimately desired....despite all their bullshit "for the good of the game" rhetoric.
    You sure are one of these hardcore e-peen players who want all cities and town and kill newbs in startign area. People like you don't deserve to play mmorpgs at all. hope they put in more protection for newbs till u leave.
    Now QQ more or stfu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdchan View Post
    You sure are one of these hardcore e-peen players who want all cities and town and kill newbs in startign area. People like you don't deserve to play mmorpgs at all. hope they put in more protection for newbs till u leave.
    Now QQ more or stfu.
    I love how people without a good argument jump straight too qq moar and your just a loser nananananana. People like you should not be able to talk.

    Anyways, I've said my point a million times and this debate seems to have nothing new being added, so I don't really have anything to add. Would just like to say if your down to name calling and wild accusations, just stfu. We don't need straw man arguments and Ad hominems.
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    far as im concerned if you wanna be some pussy who crafts naked, dont join a clan and just sit in the npc cities with your guard tower safety. if you want to get involved in clan warfare, gear your sorry ass up, turn your sound up, and learn to listen to your surroundings. cant be sitting in your city jerking off while you craft 600 timber at a time. grow a pair of balls, you're a crafter, you have no excuse to have no gear to wear while crafting. and if you're a pure killer/pker then you have ZERO excuse for being ok with this change.

    pussiesssssssssssssss, stop trying trying to hide it, no one here(that isnt a pussy) buys it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allort View Post
    More damage from towers May mean that its harder to raid a city

    May mean you have to take better gear to raid a city and more people

    May stop the one person jumping into a city and trying to cause havok

    May mean defenders face larger groups more often

    May mean be a good thing to help out clans in thier own city a bit as atm they dont actualy get any help

    Hamlet towers may mean that smaller clans now can effectivly own a hamlet and defend it if they have no where else to base them selves (important point that is not considered i think)

    May be a bad thing

    May be a good thing

    .... hmm im not sure if its December or May anymore... maybe ill just WAIT FOR THE FUCKING EXPANSION




    (yer should have posted this way before patch day but im lazy - not long to wait now)
    agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhyn View Post
    Man, you guys are really trashing this game....

    I thought AV wasn't listening to carebears?
    It isn't the carebears, the ones whining because AV are taking away the arsehole we can't loose m,ecuanics and replacing with real game content and mechanics. Hillarious.
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    This is very Bad News ,Trammel all over again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deca View Post
    There are not supposed to be any safe places in DFO --- not even the starter cities.
    You can attack anyone anywhere in Darkfall, you just have to face the consequences. The problem is you don't want to face consequences, which makes you the carebear.

    You're whining when you don't even know ow much damage towers do. Currently they do practically no damage, even if damage is doubled it's still possible to raid cities without them being an issue. Stop being a crybaby.

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    Oh nice

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