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    Of course something can appear from nothing. Weapons of mass destruction do it all the time, and then nothing appears where that something was.

    Or maybe I just like saying weapons of mass destruction.

    weapons of mass destruction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villageninja View Post
    Of course something can appear from nothing. Weapons of mass destruction do it all the time, and then nothing appears where that something was.

    Or maybe I just like saying weapons of mass destruction.

    weapons of mass destruction
    Nucular>all

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    Quote Originally Posted by generic_user View Post
    Nukler>all
    Bush would be proud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caffy View Post
    We need some new policies around here.

    1. If you want to talk about religion then you have to bump an old thread.
    2. Ban anyone who bumps old religious threads.
    Or just don't read the threads you don't like...

    Quote Originally Posted by Reigngod View Post
    Deductive reasoning has noing to do with logic. In fact deductive reasoning is illogical. Go define logic and come back to the discussion an educated man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drift0ner View Post
    So based on that principal, would that explain how things exist without a creator?
    A principle is one of several things: (a) a descriptive comprehensive and fundamental law, doctrine, or assumption; (b) a normative rule or code of conduct, and (c) a law or fact of nature underlying the working of an artificial device

    "There is always an opposite of everything, for non-existance, there is existance. "

    That is not a principle, it's a load of fucking shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drift0ner View Post
    When there is up, there is down
    Up and down is relative. I can launch myself up into outer space and I would eventually land down on a planet without ever changing direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nate4449 View Post
    seething anit-religious hate!
    Seething anti-religious hate? Here? Don't think so. We pretty much established that religion is a failed social experiment. Hating it for that would be a dirty shame. It would be like hating midgets for being portable.
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    There are no empty voids, not even vacuums are empty.
    If I understand correctly a vacuum sucks a particle and it's anti-particle from somewhere(from the future?) which then proceed to attract each other and collide and annihilate into energy.
    Deus Factus Sum.

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    I am curious to hear what Forumfall considers the "First Cause"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateGlen View Post
    Or just don't read the threads you don't like...
    Or just ban people who annoy me.


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    We don't know the answer, therefore goddidit

    gtfo demon!!!

    lolololol

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    We don't know what created the universe. But according to quantum physics and the current science, scientists believe certain particles do "come from nothing" all the time, or rather, appear as they come from nothing. Hawking radiation for example, where a virtual particle randomly appears (this happens all the time and everywhere) at the edge of a black hole's gravity, "creates" mass from "nothing". The anti-matter part gets sucked into the black hole, while the matter-part escapes. Matter is therefore effectively "created", though the black hole loses some of its own matter as a consequence of sucking in a anti-matter particle, so it's not like it's an energy surplus.

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    Since this is bound to evolve into a religious debate, I'll offer my thoughts on this subject as well. I don't see why it (the OP's question) is used as an argument to support religious folks though. Just because we don't know, doesn't mean God or anything similar exists. Your faith in God must be very limited if you have to pick on our limited knowledge in metaphysics to bolt your belief in God. It's not like your world-view is being threatened, as if someone tries to wave around this stuff to disprove the idea of God, he's just as silly.

    For me, I believe that gods and such are basically infinitely improbable. I can't say God doesn't exist, but if you believe so, I wont think you're stupid because of it. You do and believe whatever the fuck you want as long as it doesn't affect me.

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    What really blows my mind is the the fact that one of 2 impossibilities must have occured, each of which can not be imagined by the human mind.

    1. Time and Space started from nothing at all.
    2. Time and Space have always been, no beginning what so ever.

    You can exchange Time/Space with God or Divine Being if you'd like, even if that entity did exist it still wouldn't justify or prove any religion in any way.

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    Think of the universe as something and nothing on a scale:

    something |-------0-------| nothing

    With the 0 passing from one side to the next over and over forever.

    This is what our universe is and everything that exists follows this one rule.

    Try it for yourself, every single thing you can look at, imagine, etc.. follows this rule. This is also good for haxing the real world if you understand it completely that is.

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