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Old 06-28-2009, 01:40 AM  
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The following was brought up in a thread by frOg and I feel it deserves to be clearly displayed for those that feel wronged/upset with AV's current NA server decisions. I've copy and pasted my reply from there to here and modified it to make it easy for those that wish to do so to speak out.



While I agree that AV's initial statements are ultra vague and do NOT truely expect anything to happen, I have filed an official complaint through econsumer and highly recommend everyone else who is upset with how this all has worked out to do the same. If for no other reason than maybe with enough complaints it will force game producers to be VERY clear upfront about this type of thing in the future.

If you feel you have been scammed by a bait and switch tactic, file a complaint against Aventurine here(it only takes a minute):
http://www.econsumer.gov/

If you wish to use it, here is a copy of my complaint anyone can use by pasteing it into the comments section at the bottom of the complaint form:

Aventurine is the creater of an online game called Darkfall Online. The game is hosted on an european server. When Aventurine initially released this game, they stated that North American players would be able to play on the EU server and that they would accomadate their move to the NA servers when such servers were launched. They also said that players would be allowed 1 character per server. NA players bought the initial game($50) and payed for monthly access($15 per month) with the understanding they would be able to move to the NA servers and play there instead once launched. Aventurine has just recently announced that NA players who wish to play on the new server at launch must now buy a new copy of the game(account) and that the game is no longer 1 character per server, but rather 1 character per account. Had this information been clearly stated initially many NA players, myself included, would not have bought the game at all and/or paid for the monthly subscription. Aventurine clearly changed their single character per server agreement, which is why I initially decided to buy the game, after I had already bought the game and had been paying for multiple months of service.


This thread is not for the discussion of what was implied or refered from AV's inital quotes. The 1 thing that really can not be argued is that AV clearly changed their stance on 1 character per server and changed their FAQ in regards to this after the fact.

If you wish to /sign or state that you have filed a complaint to bump the thread and keep it easy to find for others please do so.

If you want to discuss what was implied or meant by the initial quotes from AV and/or flame those that are upset about this all please do so in the multiple threads that already exist for just that purpose.
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:42 AM  
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:43 AM  
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:44 AM  
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Some people are dumb. By replying you are bumping the thread and ensuring it stays on top. If you want the thread to not get any attention don't reply to it.
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:46 AM  
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seriously?
this is the internet, and furthermore this is the darkfall forum...general section.
who's actually gonna read all that?
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:49 AM  
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STFU and GTFO. When you have done this go play WOW.

the website you link to is an American website that will have zero authority over a greek company.

So STFU and GTFO again.
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:52 AM  
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Some people are dumb. By replying you are bumping the thread and ensuring it stays on top. If you want the thread to not get any attention don't reply to it.
Irony...

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Who said I wanted the thread to die?
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:54 AM  
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seriously?
this is the internet, and furthermore this is the darkfall forum...general section.
who's actually gonna read all that?

IDK maybe the people that think AV wasn't upfront about things that they really should have been.

While I do appreciate you bumping this and keeping it visible, if you want to flame me please go create a thread just for that...I'll even come and read it and maybe even reply.

This is the ONLY thread on the boards atm specifically about how those that feel they have been mislead can file a complaint. Once more please keep any discussion in this thread about that.
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:58 AM  
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okay, first, as stated, that website isnt gonna effect a greek company.
second...it wouldnt effect an american one...
and no, there are tons of threads telling people where to complain, yours is just as useless as the rest of them.

also:
if you feel cheated, you should have read better, not assumed unproven things (by that I mean what you THINK will be the case at NA launch not facts) and if you think they are facts, link the specific arguements you are trying to make, because I think you made it up tbh
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:02 AM  
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okay, first, as stated, that website isnt gonna effect a greek company.
second...it wouldnt effect an american one...
and no, there are tons of threads telling people where to complain, yours is just as useless as the rest of them.

also:
if you feel cheated, you should have read better, not assumed unproven things (by that I mean what you THINK will be the case at NA launch not facts) and if you think they are facts, link the specific arguements you are trying to make, because I think you made it up tbh
Actually, if you feel cheated tell your friends. Speak out on the message boards. And then cancel when your sub is up. That is about all you can do -- but do not believe for a second that it does not have an impact.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:07 AM  
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okay, first, as stated, that website isnt gonna effect a greek company.
second...it wouldnt effect an american one...
and no, there are tons of threads telling people where to complain, yours is just as useless as the rest of them.

also:
if you feel cheated, you should have read better, not assumed unproven things (by that I mean what you THINK will be the case at NA launch not facts) and if you think they are facts, link the specific arguements you are trying to make, because I think you made it up tbh
The FACT is that AV changed their stance on single charecter per server to single character per account AFTER launch. This is fact and multiple websites have Tasos quoted as stating SCS. That is the facts and my complaint above ONLY specifically mentions that that is what AV changed. My complaint does not state what I thought accomadate meant or what was meant by "when the NA servers launch". I very specifically stated that AV changed from SCS to SCA.

This is my last reply to anyone trying to flame/troll me. Once more, in caps to make it clear, IF YOU FEEL WRONGED THEN FILE A COMPLAINT AND MAYBE WITH ENOUGH COMPLAINTS FUTURE GAME DEVELOPERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE UPFRONT AND FORTHCOMING ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:11 AM  
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Ummmmmmmm...
pretty sure, and just to tell you here, when I play a game that's an international remake of a japanese/korean game, I cant fucking load my character in the japanese version with an american subscription...


JUST POINTING OUT AN MMO OBVIOUIS TO YOU.

and seeing as they have yet to make an EU-2 you can;t say they did shit tbh
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