Infractions

[Wickfield]

Are there guidelines for how many points an infraction is worth?

Like, are certain broken rules worth more, or less, or is it completely at the discretion of the mod?

Also, is there a set number of points at which you are suspended/banned/permabanned?

I have a feeling that all of the values are at discretion, but I was just curious.

[Spinewire]

If you reach 10 you get suspended, Brannoc only gives them out in 10's and as a result lets alot of the petty shit slide which is a good way to do things imo.

I think you get 3 or 5 depending on how much you have flamed the mods alt account/pissed him off and you only get a warning if they like you imo.

[TheDor]

I hear it's also based on if you're in Murder Herd or not.

[Wickfield]

I hear it's also based on if you're in Murder Herd or not.

hehehehehe...

[Methuselah]

Are there guidelines for how many points an infraction is worth?

Like, are certain broken rules worth more, or less, or is it completely at the discretion of the mod?

Also, is there a set number of points at which you are suspended/banned/permabanned?

I have a feeling that all of the values are at discretion, but I was just curious.


For public curiosity:

There definitely are guidelines for how much an infraction is worth. I won't break it down for you, but the idea is the ToS is divided into more, or less, serious offenses. Categories 1-3 for the more experienced of you. Category one are the lessers and three is for the big boys. There's some insta bannage as well, but they are more for serious things like ban evasion or hate speech.

The basic idea is that when you mess up a mod will look at what you did, and look at the guide line. They'll also take into account your personal history of infractions which might get the infraction knocked down to a warning, or boosted up to a more serious point count. How points add up over time is a bit more obscure, but should you rack up 50 of the permanent points, your done.

Moderating isn't an exact science. There isn't a flow chart you can follow to making sure you get the correct outcome for a given scenario. Every case is largely a judgement call. Sometimes we nail it, sometimes we fuck up.

[popsaregood230]

Sometimes we nail it, sometimes we fuck

a/s/l

[Wickfield]

For public curiosity:

There definitely are guidelines for how much an infraction is worth. I won't break it down for you, but the idea is the ToS is divided into more, or less, serious offenses. Categories 1-3 for the more experienced of you. Category one are the lessers and three is for the big boys. There's some insta bannage as well, but they are more for serious things like ban evasion or hate speech.

The basic idea is that when you mess up a mod will look at what you did, and look at the guide line. They'll also take into account your personal history of infractions which might get the infraction knocked down to a warning, or boosted up to a more serious point count. How points add up over time is a bit more obscure, but should you rack up 50 of the permanent points, your done.

Moderating isn't an exact science. There isn't a flow chart you can follow to making sure you get the correct outcome for a given scenario. Every case is largely a judgement call. Sometimes we nail it, sometimes we fuck up.

thank you.

[Beeblebrox]

How points add up over time is a bit more obscure, but should you rack up 50 of the permanent points, your done.


I thought ClownFoot had over 80 of those...can I ban him now?

[Spinewire]

I thought ClownFoot had over 80 of those...can I ban him now?
They are not permo points, i don't think i have any permo point i did not know they even existed.

edit- just checked, mine have expired...


You must have to do something pretty fucking awful to get permo points as i have said some pretty OTT things before. Back in the day tho you could pretty much do wtf you wanted.

[AmonDominus]

The mods are utterly biased in ForumFall. Nephew politics ftw.
They spam infractions to everyone except their friends and ppl who they like.

[TheDor]

For public curiosity:

There definitely are guidelines for how much an infraction is worth. I won't break it down for you, but the idea is the ToS is divided into more, or less, serious offenses. Categories 1-3 for the more experienced of you. Category one are the lessers and three is for the big boys. There's some insta bannage as well, but they are more for serious things like ban evasion or hate speech.

The basic idea is that when you mess up a mod will look at what you did, and look at the guide line. They'll also take into account your personal history of infractions which might get the infraction knocked down to a warning, or boosted up to a more serious point count. How points add up over time is a bit more obscure, but should you rack up 50 of the permanent points, your done.

Moderating isn't an exact science. There isn't a flow chart you can follow to making sure you get the correct outcome for a given scenario. Every case is largely a judgement call. Sometimes we nail it, sometimes we fuck up.
:idea:

[Temet nosce]

There are guidelines, but they can break them at will. Also, fuck yes! I just had a twenty point expire!

[Wickfield]

:idea:

ahhh..... (http://www.teamdrunkottawa.com/funnay/images/fry-see-what-you-did-there.jpg)

[Spinewire]

The mods are utterly biased in ForumFall. Nephew politics ftw.
They spam infractions to everyone except their friends and ppl who they like.
Just as long as the forum in no way impacts the game with reguards to being able to login i don't have a problem with it as it does add some flavour.


I think it is obvious from today that Methuselah is in MH's pocket, but i like to think i know a few that would give me the benefit of the doubt, then again some just love fucking sticking it to me for whatever reason they can so i guess it evens out.

[Wickfield]

I've heard of people having like 20 point perma infractions? I mean... you obviously said something racist, but where do these flames come from?

[Methuselah]

The mods are utterly biased in ForumFall. Nephew politics ftw.
They spam infractions to everyone except their friends and ppl who they like.

There are guidelines, but they can break them at will. Also, fuck yes! I just had a twenty point expire!

We answer to a higher power. Our actions are subject to review, and we serve at Brannoc's pleasure. You can harbor these thoughts if you like, but I can say from a postion of knowing that they're baseless. Looking at your history, Amon, I can't say you were treated wrongly, but if you ever feel a Mod has abused their power take it up with Brannoc, or Sprite.

[Methuselah]

I've heard of people having like 20 point perma infractions? I mean... you obviously said something racist, but where do these flames come from?

Let's avoid going into specifics.

[Shrang]

We answer to a higher power. Our actions are subject to review, and we serve at Brannoc's pleasure. You can harbor these thoughts if you like, but I can say from a postion of knowing that they're baseless. Looking at your history, Amon, I can't say you were treated wrongly, but if you ever feel a Mod has abused their power take it up with Brannoc, or Sprite.

Let's avoid going into specifics.

Mod double post!

[Temet nosce]

We answer to a higher power. Our actions are subject to review, and we serve at Brannoc's pleasure. You can harbor these thoughts if you like, but I can say from a postion of knowing that they're baseless. Looking at your history, Amon, I can't say you were treated wrongly, but if you ever feel a Mod has abused their power take it up with Brannoc, or Sprite.

Aye, not saying you guys have no overview but from what I understand it requires the person involved actually contacting Brannoc and getting him to do something about it. Unless that occurs you seem to be able to modify things pretty much as you please.

Not that most of you are that bad.

[Spinewire]

I've heard of people having like 20 point perma infractions? I mean... you obviously said something racist, but where do these flames come from?
I said something deliberately racist and offencvie and only got a suspention and no permo points.

I actualy cannot imagain what you would have to do to get owned so hard, having said that with all these new mods they do seem to be a bit trigger happy. Hopefully they will mellow with time.


Brannoc always has their back anyway no matter how retardedly petty the reason for your points, even if he would not have given you points himself, it is very easy break the ToS.

[Wickfield]

I said something deliberately racist and offencvie and only got a suspention and no permo points.

I actualy cannot imagain what you would have to do to get owned so hard, having said that with all these new mods they do seem to be a bit trigger happy. Hopefully they will mellow with time.

I doubt it. If the boards still exist post-release, the mods will get owned and dry-looted a a lot, and will log and come on here handing out infractions like candy to reduce their stress.

I don't see a lot of us making it to ltf status... :(

[Shrang]

I doubt it. If the boards still exist post-release, the mods will get owned and dry-looted a a lot, and will log and come on here handing out infractions like candy to reduce their stress.

I don't see a lot of us making it to ltf status... :(

What mods will use the same names ign as on forum...?

[Trikk]

All mods are stupid and worship the devil.

[Spinewire]

What mods will use the same names ign as on forum...?
i was under the impression that the mod got given their names and they get cycled now and again.

I could have plucked that idea totaly out of my arse tho and should probabaly loosen the tinfoil hat.

[Wickfield]

What mods will use the same names ign as on forum...?

they may, they may not. I was refering more to their skill in-game, as opposed to just being targeted for having a mod-name.

but your theory works too.


shit I've been posting alot...

[Shrang]

they may, they may not. I was refering more to their skill in-game, as opposed to just being targeted for having a mod-name.

but your theory works too.


shit I've been posting alot...

My mistake but im guessing if they go overboard they won't last very long...

[Methuselah]

I actualy cannot imagain what you would have to do to get owned so hard, having said that with all these new mods they do seem to be a bit trigger happy. Hopefully they will mellow with time.

I think moderation trends follow the level of poster retardation by and large. We've had higher than normal amounts of spam threads and bullshit here in OT lately so the moderation has increased. This shouldn't really be a shock.

Brannoc always has their back anyway no matter how retardedly petty the reason for your points, even if he would not have given you points himself, it is very easy break the ToS.

We volunteer to do a pretty thankless job so he won't run off and throw us under the bus for bullshit, but he wouldn't hesitate to get rid of a mod who keeps abusing his limited power either.

[Spinewire]

I think moderation trends follow the level of poster retardation by and large. We've had higher than normal amounts of spam threads and bullshit here in OT lately so the moderation has increased. This shouldn't really be a shock.
This is true...

I'm guessing you have been here longer than your join date suggests then.

Did brannoc just ask you one day or did you apply also did you pick your name or were you given it?

We volunteer to do a pretty thankless job so he won't run off and throw us under the bus for bullshit, but he wouldn't hesitate to get rid of a mod who keeps abusing his limited power either.Most of what i say is not ment to sound disparaging.

[AmonDominus]

We answer to a higher power. Our actions are subject to review, and we serve at Brannoc's pleasure. You can harbor these thoughts if you like, but I can say from a postion of knowing that they're baseless. Looking at your history, Amon, I can't say you were treated wrongly, but if you ever feel a Mod has abused their power take it up with Brannoc, or Sprite.
Most of the infractions I got were handed out for the dumbest reasons.
70% I called someone a fruitcake.
30% Random ToS nonsense a mod has twisted to his liking. Hence the " our opinions are entirely our own" clause.

I have no problem if a longterm mod comes and throws out infractions since they are usually the tough ones who tell ppl to fuck off, die, choke, hang, whatever and insult whenever possible. It's great!

Now there are some new 08' mods with 03' alts or so, who are way too carebear to be on ForumFall in the first place.

They always find whats wrong with my posts but they never infract other posts/threads that break ToS x10.

Heck I got a 3point infraction for referring to NA people as 'chubby'. Yay!
What mods will use the same names ign as on forum...?
There was a thread where ppl found out some beta players were infact mods here with a slightly different name.

[Methuselah]

This is true...

I'm guessing you have been here longer than your join date suggests then.

Did brannoc just ask you one day or did you apply also did you pick your name or were you given it?

I'd be considered a "Long Term Follower".

I applied, was reviewed and went through an interview. Ya, I was kinda shocked.

I picked my name. I actually wanted McLovn...

Most of what i say is not ment to sound disparaging.

No offense taken. It's a common misconception that we're all a bunch of assholes who run around doing what we want. There's always a Us vs. Them mentality when you have someone in an authority position. Especially in a forum like this one with such a Libertarian streak. It's kind of why I've been responding to this thread so much. I just wanted to clear up some of these misconceptions.

[Jackhowitzer]

I said the word d*uchef*g and got 10 points lol, but I've said it before and haven't received infractions, how does that work out? 0_o

(True story, but lets just say its a hypothetical situation so it doesn't break the rules)

[Methuselah]

I said the word d*uchef*g and got 10 points lol, but I've said it before and haven't received infractions, how does that work out? 0_o

(True story, but lets just say its a hypothetical situation so it doesn't break the rules)

I remember nailing someone on a hypothetical situaion very much like this, but the word was different, somehow much harsher, and in violation of that sticky on the top of the page. Hmmm. You guys should read those things from time to time. This also goes back to what I was saying about moderation following poster trends.

As to how you get nailed once and don't another time - you got lucky. We missed it. It happens.

[Spinewire]

I'd be considered a "Long Term Follower".

I applied, was reviewed and went through an interview. Ya, I was kinda shocked.
I should apply, i spend far to much time on here might aswell be doing something usefull.

Well i would apply apart from the fact brannoc would lolinmyface

[Megumi]

It helps if you're not Clownfoot.

[Vessol]

This thread is as useful as Old Yeller.

[Squatch]

There definitely are guidelines for how much an infraction is worth.

Moderating isn't an exact science. There isn't a flow chart you can follow to making sure you get the correct outcome for a given scenario. Every case is largely a judgement call. Sometimes we nail it, sometimes we fuck up.

Couldn't have said it better myself. No sense going any further with this thread.

[Methuselah]

Couldn't have said it better myself. No sense going any further with this thread.

I think we will end it here. Hope this clears a few things up.