Boy Scout gains all 121 merit badges.

[NapalmEnema]

Still a virgin.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473964,00.html

Man he looks like a tool.



NEW YORK — A Long Island teenager has earned all 121 merit badges offered by the Boy Scouts of America. It's an accomplishment the local arm of the organization calls "an almost unheard-of feat."

Oceanside resident Shawn Goldsmith earned his final badge — for bugling — in time for his 18th birthday in November. He far surpassed the 21 badges required to achieve the elite rank of Eagle Scout.

He says he took about five years to earn his first 62 badges and then nearly doubled that number in a matter of months. He did it with the encouragement of his grandmother, who died shortly before he reached his goal.

The Binghamton University freshman was awarded his final badges on Dec. 19. He says he hopes to become a businessman and politician.

[Ababoba]

Nolife, must be a Chinese farmer.

[Fro]

He's my idol!:rolleyes:

[saltwaterteffy]

last name of Goldsmith...anyone else see the correlation there??!! I bet his grandfather owns a jewelery store and his father is either a comedian or in sales. Need I say more? yes...uncircumsized.

[zachclewis]

Good tolerant organization.

No atheists are allowed......

[Haeso]

Still a virgin.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473964,00.html

Man he looks like a tool.



NEW YORK — A Long Island teenager has earned all 121 merit badges offered by the Boy Scouts of America. It's an accomplishment the local arm of the organization calls "an almost unheard-of feat."

Oceanside resident Shawn Goldsmith earned his final badge — for bugling — in time for his 18th birthday in November. He far surpassed the 21 badges required to achieve the elite rank of Eagle Scout.

He says he took about five years to earn his first 62 badges and then nearly doubled that number in a matter of months. He did it with the encouragement of his grandmother, who died shortly before he reached his goal.

The Binghamton University freshman was awarded his final badges on Dec. 19. He says he hopes to become a businessman and politician.

I feel sorry for him.

[NapalmEnema]

He's my idol!:rolleyes:

If you need a bugler in an emergency situation YOU KNOW WHO TO CALL. Need a knot tied? He's your man.

[Ganon]

damnit... and it really needed to end up in the news? Your values are quite odd.
And whats wrong with all those flags behind him? american, israelian and maybe mexican? Isnt he just american?
Oh poor Amerigo Vespucci, why he didnt go fishing that day?

[NapalmEnema]

damnit... and it really needed to end up in the news? Your values are quite odd.
And whats wrong with all those flags behind him? american, israelian and maybe mexican? Isnt he just american?
Oh poor Amerigo Vespucci, why he didnt go fishing that day?

Because the Boy Scouts Of America are accepting of all races and religions. As long as you are not gay and follow our savior THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and are not brown of skin.

Other than that, welcome aboard. (unless you have gay relatives, or support any gay based legislation)

[Kellindell]

As a BSA leader, I have to say its people like you that turn people away from such a positive org for kids.

You say he has no life, yet he is all over the news for accomplishing something, and your a worthless loser trolling forums and internet sites rather then living your life and being on said sites.

Those merit badges range all kinds of subjects, and even getting the minimal amount you need to attain eagle is difficult, getting every badge is near impossible.

This loser as you so call it has probably learned and experienced more in his time in the scouts then you will in your entire life, assuming you have one.

[saltwaterteffy]

you say he has no life, yet he is all over the news for accomplishing something

fox news

key word is fox

[Lotharr]

He can now use one hell of a pick up line!

[Haeso]

I dunno if even this saucy and awesome line can undo the damage from this:

http://www.foxnews.com/images/486782/3_62_goldsmithbadges_320.jpg

One at a time ladies, the line forms --- to the left. :rofl:

I bet that sash is a real panty melter, for sure.

Oh and saltwaterteffy that was pretty good. Well played sir.

[Razel]

. He says he hopes to become a businessman and politician.

politician, what a fucking waste :bang: guess its better than preist and politician... always a bright side i guess

[saltwaterteffy]

I bet that sash is a real panty melter, for sure.

Oh and saltwaterteffy that was pretty good. Well played sir.


y'know I'm SURE there is a really good blazing saddles pick-up line within that somewhere....but I can't quite put my finger on it.

[Ziegler]

To Scout leader.

This is forumfall, dont expect anything but derision and disrespect for anything with a religious connotation to it, regardless of any good works that may actually come from it. It's, in their eyes, the most evil thing in the world because of some stuff done by somebody else over the past centuries.


Having earned 26 badges myself, I have to give props, some of those badges are pretty hard to get. All of the citizenship badges requiring you to learn how your local, state, county and international governments work. Performing public service, learning how to survive on limited resources, rowing, swimming, computers...Yeah, if he actually learned all those items in the badges, he's got a good start on a successful life. (I'd wager he has scholarships and such as well)....

And here is a list of useless nobodies that he joins in the eagle ranks.

Bill Alexander, U.S. Representative from Arkansas
Gary Anderson, U.S. Representative from New York
Charles Bennett, U.S. Representative from Florida
William Bennett, Former Secretary of Education
Bill Bradley, Pro basketball star and U.S. Sneator from New Jersey
Milton Caniff, Comic Strip Artist "Steve Canyon"
Willaim Dannemeyer, U.S. Representative from California
Arthur Eldred, (First Eagle Scout)
Gerald Ford, 38th President of the U.S.
Murphy J. "Mike" Foster, Governor of Louisiana
James Lovell - Astronaut
Richard Lugar, U.S. Senator from Indiana
Sam Nunn, U.S. Senator from Georgia
Ellison Onizuka, Challenger Astronaut
J.J. Pickle, U.S. Representative from Texas
Samuel Pierce, Former Secreatry of HUD
Harrison Salisbury, Pulitzer Prize winning Author
Willaim Sessions, Former FBI Director
Steven Spielberg, Film Director/Producer
Wallace Stegner, Pulitzer Prize winning Author
Percy Sutton, Chairman of CBS John Tesh, TV Celebrity
James Stewart - Actor
James Brady, Former Press Secretary to President Reagan
William C. DeVries, M.D., Transplanted first artificial heart
Walter Cronkite - Journalist, T.V. commentator
J. Willard Marriott, Jr., President, Marriott Corporation
H. Ross Perot, Chairman, EDS Corp.
Daniel J. Evans, Former US Senator and Governor of Washington state

[NapalmEnema]

To Scout leader.

This is forumfall, dont expect anything but derision and disrespect for anything with a religious connotation to it, regardless of any good works that may actually come from it. It's, in their eyes, the most evil thing in the world because of some stuff done by somebody else over the past centuries.


Having earned 26 badges myself, I have to give props, some of those badges are pretty hard to get. All of the citizenship badges requiring you to learn how your local, state, county and international governments work. Performing public service, learning how to survive on limited resources, rowing, swimming, computers...Yeah, if he actually learned all those items in the badges, he's got a good start on a successful life. (I'd wager he has scholarships and such as well)....

And here is a list of useless nobodies that he joins in the eagle ranks.

Bill Alexander, U.S. Representative from Arkansas
Gary Anderson, U.S. Representative from New York
Charles Bennett, U.S. Representative from Florida
William Bennett, Former Secretary of Education
Bill Bradley, Pro basketball star and U.S. Sneator from New Jersey
Milton Caniff, Comic Strip Artist "Steve Canyon"
Willaim Dannemeyer, U.S. Representative from California
Arthur Eldred, (First Eagle Scout)
Gerald Ford, 38th President of the U.S.
Murphy J. "Mike" Foster, Governor of Louisiana
James Lovell - Astronaut
Richard Lugar, U.S. Senator from Indiana
Sam Nunn, U.S. Senator from Georgia
Ellison Onizuka, Challenger Astronaut
J.J. Pickle, U.S. Representative from Texas
Samuel Pierce, Former Secreatry of HUD
Harrison Salisbury, Pulitzer Prize winning Author
Willaim Sessions, Former FBI Director
Steven Spielberg, Film Director/Producer
Wallace Stegner, Pulitzer Prize winning Author
Percy Sutton, Chairman of CBS John Tesh, TV Celebrity
James Stewart - Actor
James Brady, Former Press Secretary to President Reagan
William C. DeVries, M.D., Transplanted first artificial heart
Walter Cronkite - Journalist, T.V. commentator
J. Willard Marriott, Jr., President, Marriott Corporation
H. Ross Perot, Chairman, EDS Corp.
Daniel J. Evans, Former US Senator and Governor of Washington state

That's a fine list, but I could make a list 100X longer of people that were never Eagle Scouts or Boy Scouts for that matter that did quite well for themselves.

[Ziegler]

That's a fine list, but I could make a list 100X longer of people that were never Eagle Scouts or Boy Scouts for that matter that did quite well for themselves.

Yes, and you can make a list of people who were never the quarterback of the team either. That doesnt take away from the accomplishment of what he did nor lessen the fact that he probably has given himself a good start in life to go on and be at least mildly sucessful....more so than they guy hanging out back of the bleachers smoking pot and fucking the whitetrash.

[Haeso]

To Scout leader.

This is forumfall, dont expect anything but derision and disrespect for anything with a religious connotation to it, regardless of any good works that may actually come from it. It's, in their eyes, the most evil thing in the world because of some stuff done by somebody else over the past centuries.


Having earned 26 badges myself, I have to give props, some of those badges are pretty hard to get. All of the citizenship badges requiring you to learn how your local, state, county and international governments work. Performing public service, learning how to survive on limited resources, rowing, swimming, computers...Yeah, if he actually learned all those items in the badges, he's got a good start on a successful life. (I'd wager he has scholarships and such as well)....

And here is a list of useless nobodies that he joins in the eagle ranks.

Bill Alexander, U.S. Representative from Arkansas
Gary Anderson, U.S. Representative from New York
Charles Bennett, U.S. Representative from Florida
William Bennett, Former Secretary of Education
Bill Bradley, Pro basketball star and U.S. Sneator from New Jersey
Milton Caniff, Comic Strip Artist "Steve Canyon"
Willaim Dannemeyer, U.S. Representative from California
Arthur Eldred, (First Eagle Scout)
Gerald Ford, 38th President of the U.S.
Murphy J. "Mike" Foster, Governor of Louisiana
James Lovell - Astronaut
Richard Lugar, U.S. Senator from Indiana
Sam Nunn, U.S. Senator from Georgia
Ellison Onizuka, Challenger Astronaut
J.J. Pickle, U.S. Representative from Texas
Samuel Pierce, Former Secreatry of HUD
Harrison Salisbury, Pulitzer Prize winning Author
Willaim Sessions, Former FBI Director
Steven Spielberg, Film Director/Producer
Wallace Stegner, Pulitzer Prize winning Author
Percy Sutton, Chairman of CBS John Tesh, TV Celebrity
James Stewart - Actor
James Brady, Former Press Secretary to President Reagan
William C. DeVries, M.D., Transplanted first artificial heart
Walter Cronkite - Journalist, T.V. commentator
J. Willard Marriott, Jr., President, Marriott Corporation
H. Ross Perot, Chairman, EDS Corp.
Daniel J. Evans, Former US Senator and Governor of Washington state

You want an even bigger list of nobodies that made nothing of themselves? The boy scouts teach next to nil useful skills in today's society. That kid didn't get anything out of the boyscouts he couldn't have learned more efficiently on his own. And all he got out of it was badges and a few useless skills. There are plenty of better organizations for young kids to join than the boy scouts, by far, they're about as useless as modern religion.

[Ion_StormH]

Great, a bigoted organisation loves me. Fail! :sly:

Edit: By the way, I am a ten-years member of the DPSG, the biggest German and catholic scout organisation.

So the arguments listed for being against anything religious by principle doesn't really fit. I dislike the American organisation not because it's American or because they're scouts, but because the heavy right-winged influence of a assumingly public organisation.

My current local scout leader is a homosexual, as were 2-3 of my childhood ones. Wow, I'm straight. So who cares?

[Ziegler]

You want an even bigger list of nobodies that made nothing of themselves? The boy scouts teach next to nil useful skills in today's society. That kid didn't get anything out of the boyscouts he couldn't have learned more efficiently on his own. And all he got out of it was badges and a few useless skills. There are plenty of better organizations for young kids to join than the boy scouts, by far, they're about as useless as modern religion.

So when did knowing your government structure become obsolete?
When did knowing how to tell N,S,E,W without a compass become obsolete?(assuming you have a life and actually go into the outdoors)
When did laerning about public speaking become obsolete?
When did being a good citizen become obsolete?

The only reason it has a "right wing" tendency is that there are no "leftist" organizations that want to teach young children how to become contributing thinking members of society. (it goes against their beliefs).

So what are some of these other organizations? YMCA?(young mans christian association)...Jr ROTC? Explorers?(opps sorry, that a BSA organization)....hmm...so what are some?

[Lionlegs]

Brothers, what I'm seeing here is a lotta hate.

I'm not defending nobody here, but, it seems to me, that the boy has done quite well for himself in a variety of activities, and all the semi-naked unshaved fat guys sitting behind their monitors right now looking at cheap german porn and browsing Forumfall are slagging him off for having done something good for himself, and probably for his society too?

All this talk about panty-melters and chat-up lines. Make fun of him all you want, but realistically, you're just a sad guy behind your computer screen, and realistically, the most action most of you get is from your right hand. Now, if that kid can go and do all those challenges and whatnot, and succeed, then he at least has things to talk about, develop a well-rounded character and do well in both social and professional life.

People, be happy for the guy. I am. He's done something well, he's determined - and I don't really care if it's BSA or whatever, I'm quite anti-religious but I'm willing to understand other people's points of view. He went out there and did something for himself and succeeded - unlike most of you Forumfall virgins sitting there now and reading this message.

Thank you.

[Lotharr]

Brothers, what I'm seeing here is a lotta hate.

I'm not defending nobody here, but, it seems to me, that the boy has done quite well for himself in a variety of activities, and all the semi-naked unshaved fat guys sitting behind their monitors right now looking at cheap german porn and browsing Forumfall are slagging him off for having done something good for himself, and probably for his society too?

All this talk about panty-melters and chat-up lines. Make fun of him all you want, but realistically, you're just a sad guy behind your computer screen, and realistically, the most action most of you get is from your right hand. Now, if that kid can go and do all those challenges and whatnot, and succeed, then he at least has things to talk about, develop a well-rounded character and do well in both social and professional life.

People, be happy for the guy. I am. He's done something well, he's determined - and I don't really care if it's BSA or whatever, I'm quite anti-religious but I'm willing to understand other people's points of view. He went out there and did something for himself and succeeded - unlike most of you Forumfall virgins sitting there now and reading this message.

Thank you.

k

[Forgin]

Brothers, what I'm seeing here is a lotta hate.

I'm not defending nobody here, but, it seems to me, that the boy has done quite well for himself in a variety of activities, and all the semi-naked unshaved fat guys sitting behind their monitors right now looking at cheap german porn and browsing Forumfall are slagging him off for having done something good for himself, and probably for his society too?

All this talk about panty-melters and chat-up lines. Make fun of him all you want, but realistically, you're just a sad guy behind your computer screen, and realistically, the most action most of you get is from your right hand. Now, if that kid can go and do all those challenges and whatnot, and succeed, then he at least has things to talk about, develop a well-rounded character and do well in both social and professional life.

People, be happy for the guy. I am. He's done something well, he's determined - and I don't really care if it's BSA or whatever, I'm quite anti-religious but I'm willing to understand other people's points of view. He went out there and did something for himself and succeeded - unlike most of you Forumfall virgins sitting there now and reading this message.

Thank you.

stfu carebear, he is a loser

[Largion]

all the semi-naked unshaved fat guys sitting behind their monitors right now looking at cheap german porn

Its not cheap!

[Wickfield]

I'm ashamed to occupy the same timezone as that kid.

[Jo0wZ]

Brothers, what I'm seeing here is a lotta hate.

I'm not defending nobody here, but, it seems to me, that the boy has done quite well for himself in a variety of activities, and all the semi-naked unshaved fat guys sitting behind their monitors right now looking at cheap german porn and browsing Forumfall are slagging him off for having done something good for himself, and probably for his society too?

All this talk about panty-melters and chat-up lines. Make fun of him all you want, but realistically, you're just a sad guy behind your computer screen, and realistically, the most action most of you get is from your right hand. Now, if that kid can go and do all those challenges and whatnot, and succeed, then he at least has things to talk about, develop a well-rounded character and do well in both social and professional life.

People, be happy for the guy. I am. He's done something well, he's determined - and I don't really care if it's BSA or whatever, I'm quite anti-religious but I'm willing to understand other people's points of view. He went out there and did something for himself and succeeded - unlike most of you Forumfall virgins sitting there now and reading this message.

Thank you.

Amen.

[Lionlegs]

stfu carebear, he is a loser

The ability to construct a meaningful sentence makes me a carebear? Are you a product of the American education system?

[Forgin]

The ability to construct a meaningful sentence makes me a carebear? Are you a product of the American education system?

No the fact that you're saying i'm fat and tell me to feel happy for this loser piece of crap who wasted years trying to get some silly badges, makes you a carebear.

And if you ever again imply I am American I will come to your house, chop of your head with a butter knife and skull fuck you.

[Lotharr]

The ability to construct a meaningful sentence makes me a carebear? Are you a product of the American education system?

You're missing a half of the point (http://www.foxnews.com/images/486782/3_62_goldsmithbadges_320.jpg).

[Lionlegs]

No the fact that you're saying i'm fat and tell me to feel happy for this loser piece of crap who wasted years trying to get some silly badges, makes you a carebear.

Those silly badges prove the fact that he's now efficient in 121 different skills. Some of them are useful, some of them aren't, but hey, at least he isn't taking out his sexual frustration on someone he doesn't know across the internet?

And if you ever again imply I am American I will come to your house, chop of your head with a butter knife and skull fuck you.

I rest my case, you big American, you.


You're missing a half of the point.

Yup, I realize he looks like a tard. But hey, at least he's done something meaningful with his life. Giant sashes of Scout badges might be the next thing in fashion, after that.

[Scully]

I couldn't even get 1 on my own.

[Ion_StormH]

Giant sashes of Scout badges might be the next thing in fashion, after that.

Damn it. I really didn't care about what you wrote - Well, except for this. I recently threw away most of my old uniforms, what should I do now! :ohno:

[Wickfield]

Damn it. I really didn't care about what you wrote - Well, except for this. I recently threw away most of my old uniforms, what should I do now! :ohno:

go kill this kid and steal his stash. why didn't you think of that on your own?

[Ganon]

lol, you said israelian

so what? Is it uncorrect? I dont check the dictionary for every sentence... even less when Im posting here.

[Ion_StormH]

go kill this kid and steal his stash. why didn't you think of that on your own?

Nah - I'd have to travel too much to get to him. It's not worth it. :/

[Lionlegs]

Damn it. I really didn't care about what you wrote - Well, except for this. I recently threw away most of my old uniforms, what should I do now! :ohno:

Buy new ones, at a Scout Store near you and start re-earnin' them badges!

[Lotharr]

Buy new ones, at a Scout Store near you and start re-earnin' them badges!

You could always cheat and just buy the badges at the same time!

[BladeSLicer]

Good tolerant organization.

No atheists are allowed......

I was in the boyscouts for a couple years and that is entirely untrue. The only restriction enforced is that a scout leader cannot be gay for (in my opinion) rather obvious reasons. Other than that everyone is welcome, including gay scouts.

[BladeSLicer]

You could always cheat and just buy the badges at the same time!

You're in Thelema now? Who's the new Mirdain advocate?

Also, pick a race man. You're going through quite the identity crisis.

[Lotharr]

You're in Thelema now?

Yeah, been for a bit over a month now.

Who's the new Mirdain advocate?

Also, pick a race man. You're going through quite the identity crisis.

I'm confused, I've always been a human.

[BladeSLicer]

I'm confused, I've always been a human.

I must be thinking of someone else then.

[Lotharr]

I must be thinking of someone else then.

Hehe, might be Lorthral.

[Ion_StormH]

Buy new ones, at a Scout Store near you and start re-earnin' them badges!

We don't have badges in the DPSG. We got badges for participation in camps and festivals, but nothing in accordance to skill.

Usually age and maturity are required to gain the next rank, but I know that there are quite harsh tests if you want to become a leader (three ranks there, usually people only get the first. I only knew one leader who had the second one as well, and they were all leaders for 8-10 years).

[Viranth]

Keep it civil, already deleted several inappropriate posts.

[BlitzKriegTF]

This kid probably has high profile job offers from all over at this point, while you overweight losers are eating cheetos in your parents basement watching that 5th rerun of battlestar galactica.

[Someone]

I was in the boyscouts for a couple years and that is entirely untrue. The only restriction enforced is that a scout leader cannot be gay for (in my opinion) rather obvious reasons. Other than that everyone is welcome, including gay scouts.

Wait how is that obvious? You do know that most pedhophiles who pray on young boys would be deeply offended if you called them gay and consider themselves to be quite hetrosexual. So what else is there? Are they worried their kids will catch the gay from gay scoutleaders or what?

[Carl Ragadamn]

Because the Boy Scouts Of America are accepting of all races and religions. As long as you are not gay and follow our savior THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and are not brown of skin.

Other than that, welcome aboard. (unless you have gay relatives, or support any gay based legislation)
This is not true, you only have to have some belief in a higher power. They are a private organization that has long worked to uphold a particular set of morals and standards, and are free to do so.
That's a fine list, but I could make a list 100X longer of people that were never Eagle Scouts or Boy Scouts for that matter that did quite well for themselves.

The list of successful Eagle Scouts is actually huge, mostly because to reach that rank you used to have to show determination and leadership. Now it is all carebear and filled with parents who demand that you tell little johnny he is special.

[PaleOne]

<<Eagle scout.

Private organizations should be allowed to discriminate in any way they choose regarding membership.

As long as the organization is not funded using tax money. And it shouldn't be that is my only argument against the BSA(it sometimes uses public buildings for meetings)

[The Cougar]

The point here isn't that this isn't an accomplishment, it's that nobody here could give a shit about some boyscout and what he used up five years of his life on. Thousands of teenagers are investing their spare time into and excelling at further studying, politics, economics, sports or even music, which all are arguably more relevant to their future careers and/or quality of life than learning to make baskets and blowing horns.

[Wickfield]

The point here isn't that this isn't an accomplishment, it's that nobody here could give a shit about some boyscout and what he used up five years of his life on. Thousands of teenagers are investing their spare time into and excelling at further studying, politics, economics, sports or even music, which all are arguably more relevant to their future careers and/or quality of life than learning to make baskets and blowing horns.

is it cold outside where you live?

[Carl Ragadamn]

Thousands of teenagers are investing their spare time into and excelling at further studying, politics, economics, sports or even music, which all are arguably more relevant to their future careers and/or quality of life than learning to make baskets and blowing horns.

All of those things are things this guy did to earn badges. Only he has a diverse background in a ton of things now. Scouts really is not about the accomplishments but instead about the experiences.

[Niles]

Death to the Boy Scouts!

[Iakhovas]

On topic, sure, its quite an achievement, congratulations. Yes, some of the skills he's learned are certainly useful. Kudos.

Many of them, however, will be no more useful in his life than that next skill point in archery in Darkfall will be useful to us in our life... but certainly no less useful.


Oh, and, as much as everyone loves the 'oh youre a halfnaked fat guy sitting behind a computer on forumfall and has never done anything with your life' line, lets get real.

It's an easy line because it's hard to disprove (lol), but it is possible (gasp) to play video games AND have a productive life. I know, people's worlds are crumbling all around that sentence.

[Lionlegs]

On topic, sure, its quite an achievement, congratulations. Yes, some of the skills he's learned are certainly useful. Kudos.

Many of them, however, will be no more useful in his life than that next skill point in archery in Darkfall will be useful to us in our life... but certainly no less useful.


Oh, and, as much as everyone loves the 'oh youre a halfnaked fat guy sitting behind a computer on forumfall and has never done anything with your life' line, lets get real.

It's an easy line because it's hard to disprove (lol), but it is possible (gasp) to play video games AND have a productive life. I know, people's worlds are crumbling all around that sentence.

I don't have a problem with whoever plays video games or forumfalls or whatever. I play video games and I know a lot of people who do, and we've got social lives too :eek:. What I don't like is all these people giving the guy so much hate because he did something good in his life. The guy isn't even here to defend himself, not that he needs to. So I'm acting in his defence saying that while they're all there sitting on their asses forumfalling, the guy is actually going out and doing something for himself and his community.


Thousands of teenagers are investing their spare time into and excelling at further studying, politics, economics, sports or even music, which all are arguably more relevant to their future careers and/or quality of life than learning to make baskets and blowing horns.

WHAT?! That's may be the case, but if you think a vast majority is doing that, then you're grossly mistaken. I emphasize "thousands", while millions of teenagers, judging from both personal experience and the experience of my close friends are going out drinking, experimenting with drugs and making out with strangers in night clubs they got into on their 18-year-old friend's ID.

[Forgin]

WHAT?! That's may be the case, but if you think a vast majority is doing that, then you're grossly mistaken. I emphasize "thousands", while millions of teenagers, judging from both personal experience and the experience of my close friends are going out drinking, experimenting with drugs and making out with strangers in night clubs they got into on their 18-year-old friend's ID.

You can do both you know? I know from personal experience.

[Nafelos]

There are Atheist Boy Scouts, there are also homosexual Boy Scouts. The Religous Right does have a lot of influence within the organization. However, when I was in it, I knew some pretty big Left wingers that weren't afraid to tell us about it.

Its not about the "useful skills" like knot tying and what have you... It is about teaching boys to be self reliant men who contribute to society. Not to mention the fact that it allows kids (some of which are confined to inner cities) to go out and experience the natural world.

Yeah, a Boy Scout can tie knots and tell one plant from another...whoopty fuckin doo... But he can also make a speach, run a fundraiser, budget wisely, or save a life when disaster hits. Most people can't even make themselves do any of those things.

[Lionlegs]

Yeah, a Boy Scout can tie knots and tell one plant from another...whoopty fuckin doo... But he can also make a speach, run a fundraiser, budget wisely, or save a life when disaster hits. Most people can't even make themselves do any of those things.

Amen.

[Forgin]

Stop making up excuses and admit you wasted your childhood with the boy scouts.

[The Cougar]

All of those things are things this guy did to earn badges. Only he has a diverse background in a ton of things now. Scouts really is not about the accomplishments but instead about the experiences.
He merely scratched the surface of all those things. I agree that the experiences he picked up might be valuable, I just don't understand the need to exalt his achievement as something extraordinary when thousands of people his age are doing more important and amazing things for themselves.

[The Cougar]

I was in the boyscouts for a couple years and that is entirely untrue. The only restriction enforced is that a scout leader cannot be gay for (in my opinion) rather obvious reasons. Other than that everyone is welcome, including gay scouts.
You're right, all gay men are predators.

[BladeSLicer]

You're right, all gay men are predators.

Didn't say that. It's just that the organization itself would suffer immensely if it were to allow gay scout leaders, as parents would not feel safe sending their boys off to camp with them (just as you wouldn't have your children become alter servers if you knew the priest was gay). They therefore don't allow gay scout leaders.

I know we of troop 155 actually had a scout leader who was harassed by one of the newer parents to the point that he actually resigned simply because he was rather effeminate and the man suspected him of being gay. He was a personal favorite of ours, and continued to attend our eagle ceremonies afterwards (eventually bringing his wife and child along as well), so I'm not a huge fan of this fear of gays..

We did have a 17 year old scout get kicked out for getting a little too close with the younger scouts, though, so I suspect that bred some fear in the parents :p.

[Haeso]

You're right, all gay men are predators.

Your name is just... Funny. Given the context I certainly got a chuckle.

[Vessol]

God I hate fucking Boy Scouts. Or at least their fucking policies.

[Kailas]

"No gays" is their insurance's policy, not the organization's policy. I was a scout, some good times until one trip where I had to dig away several feet of snow to pitch my tent, was pushed into a fire and run over by a dog sled, burned my foot and broke a few ribs and ended up in the hospital. All on one trip. That kind of did it for 13-year-old-me. Some good times, though.

What the kid in the OP did was impressive in like a "holy crap that must have taken a ridiculous amount of work" sort of way. Good for him, probably get him laid, definitely will give him a leg up in life. Eagle scouts get recognition everywhere. Politics, business, hell the marines make you a PFC faster if you were an eagle scout.

[Nafelos]

<< Eagle Scout.

I don't agree with every policy or decision the BSA makes, however I respect their right to make that decision. Also, I wouldn't think that the Federal Funding that goes to them is a worthwhile investment in an organization that only strengthens communities around the country.

[Vessol]

They have no right to make that decision if they receive Federal Funding.

[Carl Ragadamn]

Stop making up excuses and admit you wasted your childhood with the boy scouts.
It certanily was not a waste for me, I went places and did things that most people will never get to do.
He merely scratched the surface of all those things. I agree that the experiences he picked up might be valuable, I just don't understand the need to exalt his achievement as something extraordinary when thousands of people his age are doing more important and amazing things for themselves.
But in experiencing such a diverse set of things, he will know what intrests him for deeper pursuit later in life. While I would never suggest what he has done to anyone wishing to have a social life, it is still an amazing act of dedication to get it done.
God I hate fucking Boy Scouts. Or at least their fucking policies.

You should have not come out of the closet then.

[Kailas]

They have no right to make that decision if they receive Federal Funding.

The hell are you talking about? 1, it's an insurance thing. 2, my parents would not have wanted me in the scouts in a tent alone with a gay 13 year-old sexually frustrated kid. I wouldn't want to be in it. The government funds plenty of homophobic organizations, but the BSA isn't one of them.

[AngusFinch]

Still a virgin.


How can anyone concentrate on sex when they still haven't gotten their basket weaving or log rolling badges?

[BladeSLicer]

They have no right to make that decision if they receive Federal Funding.

They don't. They stopped accepting it 15 years ago for the sole purpose of not allowing gay scout masters.

[Vessol]

It certanily was not a waste for me, I went places and did things that most people will never get to do.

But in experiencing such a diverse set of things, he will know what intrests him for deeper pursuit later in life. While I would never suggest what he has done to anyone wishing to have a social life, it is still an amazing act of dedication to get it done.


You should have not come out of the closet then.

Never touched the Boy Scouts. Every Boy Scout I know is some pasty white kid who thinks they are the shit because they got some badge doing some bullshit. I didn't need some group of insecure Christian middle-classers to learn outdoor survival. Trust me, everyone in the Boy Scouts is a piece of shit middle-class pansy.

[BladeSLicer]

Never touched the Boy Scouts. Every Boy Scout I know is some pasty white kid who thinks they are the shit because they got some badge doing some bullshit. I didn't need some group of insecure Christian middle-classers to learn outdoor survival. Trust me, everyone in the Boy Scouts is a piece of shit middle-class pansy.

Quite the tough guy you are!

[Vessol]

Quite the tough guy you are!

I'm Internet Tough Guy.

But no, the Boy Scouts are shit. They should all go drink cyanide.

[BladeSLicer]

I'm Internet Tough Guy.

But no, the Boy Scouts are shit. They should all go drink cyanide.

I'm not a fan of cyanide myself. Terrible aftertaste.

[Vessol]

I'm not a fan of cyanide myself. Terrible aftertaste.

I hear it tastes better when it's mixed with cool-aid :\.

[Carl Ragadamn]

Never touched the Boy Scouts. Every Boy Scout I know is some pasty white kid who thinks they are the shit because they got some badge doing some bullshit. I didn't need some group of insecure Christian middle-classers to learn outdoor survival. Trust me, everyone in the Boy Scouts is a piece of shit middle-class pansy.

It all depends on who is running the troop and when you are talking about. In the mid 90's they carebeared out the place.

[Ezion]

The hell are you talking about? 1, it's an insurance thing. 2, my parents would not have wanted me in the scouts in a tent alone with a gay 13 year-old sexually frustrated kid. I wouldn't want to be in it. The government funds plenty of homophobic organizations, but the BSA isn't one of them.

The premise of your argument is that gay kids will rape normal kids if left in the same tent.

Should I continue or give you time to backpedal out of this?

[Ziegler]

The premise of your argument is that gay kids will rape normal kids if left in the same tent.

Should I continue or give you time to backpedal out of this?

The premise of the argument is the same as not letting boys and girls sleep together at a young age. IF he has some sexual urge and acts upon it with the kid in the tent with him, and that kid subsequently beats the living shit out of him...it's not going to be his fault...but the kid who beat him up.

It avoids that whole situation.

[Haeso]

The premise of the argument is the same as not letting boys and girls sleep together at a young age. IF he has some sexual urge and acts upon it with the kid in the tent with him, and that kid subsequently beats the living shit out of him...it's not going to be his fault...but the kid who beat him up.

It avoids that whole situation.

Sexually repressed society is funny.

[Leonon]

I hear it tastes better when it's mixed with cool-aid :\.Coffee's better; cool-aid doesn't cover the taste very well.


I got my assassination badge.

[Blood Barn]

He's my hero.

[Harsher]

So when did knowing your government structure become obsolete?
When did knowing how to tell N,S,E,W without a compass become obsolete?(assuming you have a life and actually go into the outdoors)
When did laerning about public speaking become obsolete?
When did being a good citizen become obsolete?

The only reason it has a "right wing" tendency is that there are no "leftist" organizations that want to teach young children how to become contributing thinking members of society. (it goes against their beliefs).

So what are some of these other organizations? YMCA?(young mans christian association)...Jr ROTC? Explorers?(opps sorry, that a BSA organization)....hmm...so what are some?

ever heard of a thing called school?

[MinusInnocence]

Good for him. He spent an absurd amount of time during his formative years trying to accomplish something and he actually came through with it. It is a little silly, but to him it must be serious business. Maybe we wouldn't be in the shit we're in now if more young people had his work ethic.

I say congratulations.

[Abra]

Congratulations to him.

To bad all the employees are looking for are Eagle Scouts.
Pricks.

[Ziegler]

ever heard of a thing called school?

Right...most public schools wouldnt dream of teaching you how to wield an ax or knife or gun properly. Look at some of the surveys of graduating seniors who dont know who the speaker of the house is or or where to go to vote or any number of other things of civic responsibility or conservationalism.

And something else little known about the scouts is thier respect to native americans.

And in the interest of showing what it is that involves getting some of these badges. The following is the requirements for Citizenship in the Community. (I dont recall ever being required to help a charitable organization as part of my education, nor did they ever detail the structure of our local government)

1)Discuss with your counselor what citizenship in the community means and what it takes to be a good citizen in your community. Discuss the rights, duties, and obligations of citizenship, and explain how you can demonstrate good citizenship in your community, Scouting unit, place of worship, or school.
2)Do the following:
a)on a map of your community, locate and point out the following:
1)Chief government buildings such as your city hall, county courthouse, and public works/services facility
2)Fire station, police station, and hospital nearest your home
3)Historical or other interesting points
b)Chart the organization of your local or state government. Show the top offices and tell whether they are elected or appointed.
3)Do the following:
a)Attend a city or town council or school board meeting, or a municipal; county, or state court session.
b)Choose one of the issues discussed at the meeting where a difference of opinions was expressed, and explain to your counselor why you agree with one opinion more than you do another one.
4)Choose an issue that is important to the citizens of your community; then do the following:
a)Find out which branch of local government is responsible for this issue.
b)With your counselor's and a parent's approval, interview one person from the branch of government you identified in requirement 4a. Ask what is being done about this issue and how young people can help.
c)Share what you have learned with your counselor.
5)With the approval of your counselor and a parent, watch a movie that shows how the actions of one individual or group of individuals can have a positive effect on a community. Discuss with your counselor what you learned from the movie about what it means to be a valuable and concerned member of the community.
6)List some of the services (such as the library, recreation center, public transportation, and public safety) your community provides that are funded by taxpayers. Tell your counselor why these services are important to your community.
7)Do the following:
a)Choose a charitable organization outside of Scouting that interests you and brings people in your community together to work for the good of your community.
b)Using a variety of resources (including newspapers, fliers and other literature, the Internet, volunteers, and employees of the organization), find out more about this organization.
c)With your counselor's and your parent's approval, contact the organization and find out what young people can do to help. While working on this merit badge, volunteer at least eight hours of your time for the organization. After your volunteer experience is over, discuss what you have learned with your counselor.
8)Develop a public presentation (such as a video, slide show, speech, digital presentation, or photo exhibit) about important and unique aspects of your community. Include information about the history, cultures, and ethnic groups of your community; its best features and popular places where people gather; and the challenges it faces. Stage your presentation in front of your merit badge counselor or a group, such as your patrol or a class at school.


You dont get that in school anymore. pure and simple.

[Megumi]

Any success if overshadowed by the fact that he once wore a faggy uniform.

Sure, he'll go down in the history books for it...but seriously, that's like going down in history as biggest nerd ever.