Just bought a graphics card

[ApocaRUFF]

And I think it's pretty nice, waaaaaay better than what I had...

It's a Verto GeForce 9600 GS0 768MB GDDR3

Came with a free game :o Frontlines: Fuel of War

I also had to buy a new power supply :D A Black Widow

[Agge]

Jay for you getting a... well, just jay for you.

:ninja:

[ApocaRUFF]

Jay for you getting a... well, just jay for you.

:ninja:

What? o.0

[t1337Dude]

A good graphics card doesn't cost that much cheapass. Did you just save your lunchmoney for a week or something?

[ApocaRUFF]

A good graphics card doesn't cost that much cheapass. Did you just save your lunchmoney for a week or something?

I payed 89.99 for it :o

[t1337Dude]

I payed 89.99 for it :o

Would it have killed you to save $30 and get the 9800gt?

[ApocaRUFF]

Would it have killed you to save $30 and get the 9800gt?

No, I still had over a hundred dollars left afterwards. The power supply also cost 89.99 :D I was gonna buy a dog, but the place I live at doesn't allow big dogs, which was all the adoption center had .__.

[t1337Dude]

No, I still had over a hundred dollars left afterwards. The power supply also cost 89.99 :D I was gonna buy a dog, but the place I live at doesn't allow big dogs, which was all the adoption center had .__.

Shouldn't have went overboard on the power supply. Could have gotten a nicer videocard. The amps on your 12v+ rail won't run Darkfall Online at high settings.

[ApocaRUFF]

Should haven't went overboard on the power supply. Could have gotten a nicer videocard. The amps on your 12v+ rail won't run Darkfall Online at high settings.

That makes no sense to me .__. I wanted to buy the $200 something card, but it didn't look much better to me... it only had 512mb, though it was probably better than what I got.... but now I can pay for game subscriptions for a few months with what's left :D

[t1337Dude]

That makes no sense to me .__. I wanted to buy the $200 something card, but it didn't look much better to me... it only had 512mb, though it was probably better than what I got.... but now I can pay for game subscriptions for a few months with what's left :D

VRAM has just very little to do with how good a card is. If you spent $30 more and picked up a 9800GT, you'd have a card capable of running even Crysis at high settings. Not trying to bust your chops, but just giving advice for next time you're planning to upgrade your card. It's not a big deal, Darkfall isn't much of a looker anyways.

[ApocaRUFF]

VRAM has just very little to do with how good a card is. If you spent $30 more and picked up a 9800GT, you'd have a card capable of running even Crysis at high settings. Not trying to bust your chops, but just giving advice for next time you're planning to upgrade your card. It's not a big deal, Darkfall isn't much of a looker anyways.

Eh, either way, It's better(waaaaaaaaaay better) than the card that came with the computer :| Next time I'll do some more research before buying.


I was able to run PVKII with no lag at all though, which made me pretty happy :D I used to lag so much I'd get a headache .__.

[Enticle]

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=571&card2=563

Man your card is a piece of shit, should have spent a little more. If it's not to late return it and get a 9800

[ApocaRUFF]

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=571&card2=563

Man your card is a piece of shit, should have spent a little more. If it's not to late return it and get a 9800

idk, what is best buys return policy for graphics cards?

[Fruitbasket]

And I think it's pretty nice, waaaaaay better than what I had...

It's a Verto GeForce 9600 GS0 768MB GDDR3

Came with a free game :o Frontlines: Fuel of War

I also had to buy a new power supply :D A Black Widow

I want my computer to run off a black widow..

Well even if people say your graphics card, it is better then anything I have had.

[t1337Dude]

The lesson is: ask forumfall before you make any hardware related purchase. You don't even have to do research. You'd be surprised what you can get for your money if you know what to look for. Gaming PCs can be had for as little as $500 these days.

[ApocaRUFF]

The lesson is: ask forumfall before you make any hardware related purchase. You don't even have to do research. You'd be surprised what you can get for your money if you know what to look for. Gaming PCs can be had for as little as $500 these days.

So... about returning my card.. do you know how Best buy does it? Do they give in-store credit or something?

[t1337Dude]

So... about returning my card.. do you know how Best buy does it? Do they give in-store credit or something?

I have no clue. Best Buy is the last place I'd buy a videocard. Stick to online retailers for PC hardware. Newegg in particular. If you can get a full refund, get that. Just say it wasn't compatible with your motherboard. Best Buy would overprices like a mofo.

[ApocaRUFF]

I have no clue. Best Buy is the last place I'd buy a videocard. Stick to online retailers for PC hardware. Newegg in particular. If you can get a full refund, get that. Just say it wasn't compatible with your motherboard. Best Buy would overprices like a mofo.

Eh, I'll just wait until I get more money =|

[Indah]

Don't wait, then you have a shitty card and no money. Box it up, take it to best buy with your recipe, get your money back. Buy it off newegg.

[ApocaRUFF]

anyone have a direct link to the card I want to get? So I have a price?

[forestchild]

And I think it's pretty nice, waaaaaay better than what I had...

It's a Verto GeForce 9600 GS0 768MB GDDR3

Came with a free game :o Frontlines: Fuel of War

I also had to buy a new power supply :D A Black Widow

Well nice for you hope you have alot of fun gaming with it:)

[alfaroverall]

9600 is solid, but the performance gain for the price increase on a 9800 is so substantial that it would be totally worth it, imo.

[Weeking]

I bought ATI RADEON 4850 a few days ago. No reason to buy a more expensive one when I can get another and run both with crossfire later (when I upgrade the power supply,)

[Ezion]

If this thread is just about e-peen waving based on graphics card purchases, I bought a 1GB EVGA SSC GTX 280 a few days ago.

[tom_gore]

To the OP:

You fell for the "bigger memory is better" trap when buying a graphics card. Memory is important, but if the GPU itself is slow (as is with the 9600 GSO) it won't make a difference.

Get a 9800GT even with 512M memory and it will be a LOT faster in running games.

[Gunther TheBlack]

No, I still had over a hundred dollars left afterwards. The power supply also cost 89.99 :D I was gonna buy a dog, but the place I live at doesn't allow big dogs, which was all the adoption center had .__.


Planning to go buy a dog and coming back with a gpu and psu. Lol that's a first.

[saltwaterteffy]

VRAM has just very little to do with how good a card is. If you spent $30 more and picked up a 9800GT, you'd have a card capable of running even Crysis at high settings. Not trying to bust your chops, but just giving advice for next time you're planning to upgrade your card. It's not a big deal, Darkfall isn't much of a looker anyways.

lol? i have one SINGLE 9600 GT (paid 100 bux) and I can run crysis on high, hell VERY high, it only gets slightly (and i do mean slightly) sluggish at ULTRA. I don't know what the difference between the GSO and the GT is but I am satisfied with my card. I can run anything and everything at a completely respectable level.

[tom_gore]

The 9600GT is faster than the 9600GSO. Moreover, the 9800GT is a lot faster than the 9600GT.

[saltwaterteffy]

The 9600GT is faster than the 9600GSO. Moreover, the 9800GT is a lot faster than the 9600GT.

well this makes me a sad panda :(

i still plan on getting a second 9600 and SLI mobo sometime this coming year though regardless ><

[NapalmEnema]

well this makes me a sad panda :(

i still plan on getting a second 9600 and SLI mobo sometime this coming year though regardless ><

Because making a bad decision and then making it again makes it a right decision sort of not really.

[Gunther TheBlack]

well this makes me a sad panda :(

i still plan on getting a second 9600 and SLI mobo sometime this coming year though regardless ><


that would be stupid.

Just wait for the new Nvidia cards. You should be more than fine until then and later.

[saltwaterteffy]

Because making a bad decision and then making it again makes it a right decision sort of not really.

you just described every post you have ever made.

[NapalmEnema]

because buying two new cards over just one is a sound investment.
(not to mention trashing a perfectly good card in the process)

There is nothing negative about my 9600. It runs anything.

1 good card > two average ones taped together in an attempt to be as fast as one decent card.

I'm sure your card is good, and runs pretty much anything, but down the road in a year or something? You'd be FAR better off getting a newer and faster single card than investing more in outdated tech.

p.s. Ignored your snappy edit even though it was quite funnay :)

[saltwaterteffy]

1 good card > two average ones taped together in an attempt to be as fast as one decent card.

I'm sure your card is good, and runs pretty much anything, but down the road in a year or something? You'd be FAR better off getting a newer and faster single card than investing more in outdated tech.

I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. btw im not paying your fucking troll toll to cross~

[NapalmEnema]

I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. btw im not paying your fucking troll toll to cross~

I wasn't trying to troll you, just trying to give you some sound advice :)

Hackles up this morning eh?

[saltwaterteffy]

I wasn't trying to troll you, just trying to give you some sound advice :)

Hackles up this morning eh?

notice my tilde (~) I'm just being a sarcastic asshole

[NapalmEnema]

notice my tilde (~) I'm just being a sarcastic asshole

Carry on then lol

[saltwaterteffy]

Carry on then lol

ok how bout some more advice then?

so id be better off buying another single card down the road? im guessing something newer than a 9800 or what? Fuck SLI altogether?

regarding Memory. Using CPU-Z I was trying to figure out what type of memory I had. It told me that I had DDR2 but what it did not tell me was the timing or the frequency etc(i could have cracked open my case to look but I'm lazy) ...and certain MOBOs only accept certain types correct?

[NapalmEnema]

ok how bout some more advice then?

so id be better off buying another single card down the road? im guessing something newer than a 9800 or what? Fuck SLI altogether?

regarding Memory. Using CPU-Z I was trying to figure out what type of memory I had. It told me that I had DDR2 but what it did not tell me was the timing or the frequency etc(i could have cracked open my case to look but I'm lazy) ...and certain MOBOs only accept certain types correct?

If you want to know what specific RAM your motherboard uses - go to www.crucial.com and put in the make and model of your MB it will give you exactly what your board will take.

Personally, I don't like SLI, it works a lot of the time, but sometimes it doesn't, or some games don't work well with it etc.. I prefer a single meaty card to remove variables and haven't had to deal with issues SLI users have. (heat issues, compatability etc..) Now I know some SLI fanboy will jump all over this saying SLI is the shit, but I don't really care. A single meaty card does the job with less chances for fuckups. That's kind of it at the end of the day.

You have a nice card that will last you quite some time. Honestly at the time you need to upgrade you might just build a new rig, and take advantage of some newer tech like DDR3 1600 RAM etc.. But if you keep your current hardware, yeah I'd say a single faster card is the way to go overall.

[Gunther TheBlack]

ok how bout some more advice then?

so id be better off buying another single card down the road? im guessing something newer than a 9800 or what? Fuck SLI altogether?

regarding Memory. Using CPU-Z I was trying to figure out what type of memory I had. It told me that I had DDR2 but what it did not tell me was the timing or the frequency etc(i could have cracked open my case to look but I'm lazy) ...and certain MOBOs only accept certain types correct?

If you're an Nvidia fan, wait for the new gtx295. Should be released early 2009.

Check it out before you buy it tho.

[cally]

First post here just thought I might be able to help out. BB has a 30 return no questions asked policy. Even if they do ask just tell them it didn't live up to your expectations. Here are 2 links to 9800 gt & GTX cards with rebates.
http://www.evga.com/articles/00453/ This is an EVGA site with a free game.
The first button takes you to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130380&Tpk=n975 it is the 9800 GT

The 2nd button takes you to this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130416&Tpk=n879 This is the 9800 GTX also with the same free game (World )f War) and a reabte. Newegg is a top rate company and has great customer service and return policies. I don't work of Newegg I have bought enough parts for several computer builds though from them.

Found this one for $200 with FS at the Egg Dunno about the PNY brand though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127361

Then there is this one for $109.99 using the Promo code of 98GYDDU which expires today.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150324&nm_mc=AFC-hardOCP&cm_mmc=AFC-hardOCP-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

[Viluin]

Shouldn't have went overboard on the power supply. Could have gotten a nicer videocard. The amps on your 12v+ rail won't run Darkfall Online at high settings.

A PC that was electrocuted by a bad power supply wouldn't run Darkfall at all.

[ApocaRUFF]

So what do I want to get? I have $40 atm (bought dinner and a few other things), plus the $79-$89 I will get if/when I return the card I bought yesterday. I have a 450W power supply. Just tell me which card I should get (that fits with how much power/money I has D: )

[Vessol]

Congratu-fucking-lations.

[Brezick]

If you are looking at any decent card today - GTX260, Radeon 4850/4870, you will need at least a 600w power supply.

If you want to check your mem frequency and timings and can't figure them out in cpu-z, try the bios. If you cant get there or figure it out, then you might want to be cautious about building a system.

[cally]

So what do I want to get? I have $40 atm (bought dinner and a few other things), plus the $79-$89 I will get if/when I return the card I bought yesterday. I have a 450W power supply. Just tell me which card I should get (that fits with how much power/money I has D: )


Here is a site that has a PSU calculator
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=power

I can't tell you what to do as I don't know what your system specs are. I also don't think in todays systems a 450 PSU is going too far. The better the card the higher the PSU is needed. When I bought my 260 I also bought a corsair 750w psu. It may have been more than I needed but I got it for $80 after the rebate.
The best thing to do is choose a video card then go check at the manufactuers web site the specs need to run it. You don't want to get so great a card that your cpu will bottleneck on you. Darkfall is not going gold next week so return your new card take the money and add it to what you have. Search out places like slickdeals, and hard ocp forums for deals on a new card. BB is not usually a great place to buy computer parts. You can get deals if you scan the weekly ad when it comes out, but not always. Sometimes they have open box items that are just returns the customer didn't like. BB has a very good return and replacement policy I never worry there.

[cally]

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1096059

Here is a link to a deal just to show you how little you had to pay for your video card.

[ApocaRUFF]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...30380&Tpk=n975

I'm thinking of getting that, how much better is that than the card I bought yesterday? If I get that card, will I go "OMFG! This thing is so much fucking better than the card I got from best buy! -foams from mouth with amazement-"? Will it be that big of a difference?

[t1337Dude]

A PC that was electrocuted by a bad power supply wouldn't run Darkfall at all.

Viluin, have you ever actually used a cheap power supply? I've run nothing BUT cheat power supplies. Guess what - my 550watt has been running for 5 years. Not only that, but I recommend cheap power supplies for all my buddies too. Not one of us has ever had any problem with a cheap power supply. Your supersticion amuses me because you also happen to assume that when a power supply dies, it takes everyout out with it. I'd compare those odds to winning the local lottery. The thing works, or it doesn't.. You can go ahead and spend $120 on some 600watt power supply, I'll spend $35 on mine. I'm not going to be using the thing for life. Just until I need more watts.

[Wickfield]

Viluin, have you ever actually used a cheap power supply? I've run nothing BUT cheat power supplies. Guess what - my 550watt has been running for 5 years. Not only that, but I recommend cheap power supplies for all my buddies too. Not one of us has ever had any problem with a cheap power supply. Your supersticion amuses me because you also happen to assume that when a power supply dies, it takes everyout out with it. I'd compare those odds to winning the local lottery. The thing works, or it doesn't.. You can go ahead and spend $120 on some 600watt power supply, I'll spend $35 on mine. I'm not going to be using the thing for life. Just until I need more watts.

you could get 750 watts for $120. 600 watts would be around $100 for an expensive psu.

and you'll need the extra wattage if you're running multiple hdd's in raid, or if you've got multiple gpu's. I do not, but if you have those extra components your investment will be worthwhile.

[cally]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...30380&Tpk=n975

I'm thinking of getting that, how much better is that than the card I bought yesterday? If I get that card, will I go "OMFG! This thing is so much fucking better than the card I got from best buy! -foams from mouth with amazement-"? Will it be that big of a difference?


Your link didn't work for me.

[ApocaRUFF]

Your link didn't work for me.

try: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130380&Tpk=n975

[Everto]

Someone, suggest me a video card.

:dodgy:

[Agge]

Someone, suggest me a video card.

:dodgy:

Voodoo 3.

[t1337Dude]

you could get 750 watts for $120. 600 watts would be around $100 for an expensive psu.

and you'll need the extra wattage if you're running multiple hdd's in raid, or if you've got multiple gpu's. I do not, but if you have those extra components your investment will be worthwhile.

Don't get me wrong, if you have a lot of things going on in your PC like multiple GPUs or 3+ hard drives, a good power supply is necessary. I'm just saying though, most users don't need some expensive power supply, especially if they're skimping out on other parts to pay for it. These power supply businesses wouldn't be in business if 1 in every 5 died like Viluin suggests.

[Brezick]

Someone, suggest me a video card.

:dodgy:

Price Range?

[Viluin]

Viluin, have you ever actually used a cheap power supply? I've run nothing BUT cheat power supplies. Guess what - my 550watt has been running for 5 years. Not only that, but I recommend cheap power supplies for all my buddies too. Not one of us has ever had any problem with a cheap power supply. Your supersticion amuses me because you also happen to assume that when a power supply dies, it takes everyout out with it. I'd compare those odds to winning the local lottery. The thing works, or it doesn't.. You can go ahead and spend $120 on some 600watt power supply, I'll spend $35 on mine. I'm not going to be using the thing for life. Just until I need more watts.

That's because you are not stressing that cheap power supply. A cheap 550w PSU will run a PC that consumes 150w of power, sure. But when you start getting close to its max, say 300-400w load, the thing will die and possibly take other components with it.

Cheap power supplies also have high +5v ratings and low +12v ratings. Basically what that means is the thing won't boot with a high-end graphics setup.

[Brezick]

There are so many good deals on 600 or 750 watt PSU's right now that they are not all that much more costly than that pos that will fry in a few months.

[Viluin]

There are so many good deals on 600 or 750 watt PSU's right now that they are not all that much more costly than that pos that will fry in a few months.

It's not about the wattage.. it's about the quality. But yeah, I always recommend the OCZ StealthXtream 600w, it's like $30 after a rebate and it's a good quality PSU.

[Brezick]

I have a Corsair 750TX in one build - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

And a PCP&C S75Q in another - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009

Love both high amp single +12V, only wish they were modular. Both will last me very long unless i start messing around with Tri-SLI.

[Everto]

Anyways. What the fuck is a Voodoo3 ? I haven't heard of that before.

I'm planning on getting the 9600gt next week from newegg.

But I have next to no interior computer knowledge ie; how to hook it up, or very well how to install it, what cords go where... etc etc.

someone wanna give me some sort of run down or some shit?
I've only been in a computer to clean it out of spiderwebs, and to take out and put in RAM.

[t1337Dude]

Anyways. What the fuck is a Voodoo3 ? I haven't heard of that before.

I'm planning on getting the 9600gt next week from newegg.

But I have next to no interior computer knowledge ie; how to hook it up, or very well how to install it, what cords go where... etc etc.

someone wanna give me some sort of run down or some shit?
I've only been in a computer to clean it out of spiderwebs, and to take out and put in RAM.
Plug that motherfucker in and you're good to go. If it needs an additional power connector, plug it in and you're solid. Easy as pie. :O

[Everto]

Plug that motherfucker in and you're good to go. If it needs an additional power connector, plug it in and you're solid. Easy as pie. :O

but werent you guys just talking about PCs not being able to run the really good card? should I list my specs?

[Wickfield]

Anyways. What the fuck is a Voodoo3 ? I haven't heard of that before.

I'm planning on getting the 9600gt next week from newegg.

But I have next to no interior computer knowledge ie; how to hook it up, or very well how to install it, what cords go where... etc etc.

someone wanna give me some sort of run down or some shit?
I've only been in a computer to clean it out of spiderwebs, and to take out and put in RAM.

voodoo 3 was a line of cards by 3dfx, a company that some of people haven't heard of because it failed, and got bought by nvidia in 02'.

To install MOST gpus, simply place the end with the female connectors towards the back of the computer. Then firmly (but not too hard) press the card into your pci-e slot (or pci-e 2.0, or 16x, or agp 4x and 8x, or whatever the fuck you have-x).

If it needs an external power plug, it'll generally be for a newer or higher-end card. If that's the case, just plug in your 6 pin, 6+2 pin, or 8 pin pci-e connector from your psu (most psu's made within the last few years have at least one) into the slot, and you're set with the physical install.

Then, boot and install your drivers (I'd avoid catalyst cc like the plague, but do as you must), reboot, and you're ready to go.

[cally]

try: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130380&Tpk=n975


You still haven't listed your system specs to enable anyone to make a decision about a video card.

From your link I have to ask are you making this decision because there is a free game or that you think this is the best card for you?

If you are only thinking about a new card how about this one? It has 1gb of memory on it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130391
it is $20 more than yours without the game.

[Viluin]

You still haven't listed your system specs to enable anyone to make a decision about a video card.

From your link I have to ask are you making this decision because there is a free game or that you think this is the best card for you?

If you are only thinking about a new card how about this one? It has 1gb of memory on it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130391
it is $20 more than yours without the game.


There's no point in getting a 9800GT with 1GB of memory. The card is too weak to handle graphical settings that make use of the extra memory.