US ultra pwned in Pakistan

[Tharkon Fargor]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081207/twl-pakistani-militants-torch-humvees-41f21e0.html


[Set fire to 96 trucks carrying materia (mostly humvees) to US forces in Afghanistan].

Ouch =/

[Daemonicus]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081207/twl-pakistani-militants-torch-humvees-41f21e0.html


[Set fire to 96 trucks carrying materia (mostly humvees) to US forces in Afghanistan].

Ouch =/

That's pocket change for them.

[Tharkon Fargor]

Not with the what, 1.100 000 000 000 deficit now?

[Viranth]

I wouldn't say that US got owned there. Highly unlikely that all US resources were used to guard that small cache of supplies.

Another reason for the western world to want a regime change in Pakistan though.

[Tharkon Fargor]

You can't claim 96 trucks of equipement is a little.
Man that's more than they get for about 3 weeks in Iraq now days.

[palo god]

How are radical Muslims doing something radical news?

[Tharkon Fargor]

It's soft news! I bet some talibans in pakistan are watching TV with their families now and going all "awwwww...did u si that american truck POOOOF...awww.."

[lemmingsoup]

I wonder whether the guards were american or not... either way it's interesting that they weren't killed.

[Nevron]

You can't claim 96 trucks of equipement is a little.

It is little.

The article also doesn't state whether all of the equipment was destroyed. It simply states that trucks carrying US vehicles were set ablaze. I'm sure with rockets and grenades being involved that some US vehicles destroyed, but it looks more like they were simply impeding the delivery process.

Either way, it's still a small amount in the grand scheme of things. No amount of anti-American sentiment negates that.

[Layedballer]

It is little.

The article also doesn't state whether all of the equipment was destroyed. It simply states that trucks carrying US vehicles were set ablaze. I'm sure with rockets and grenades being involved that some US vehicles destroyed, but it looks more like they were simply impeding the delivery process.

Either way, it's still a small amount in the grand scheme of things. No amount of anti-American sentiment negates that.

This.

[Viranth]

Also says a guard from a private company got killed. That probably means this private company will just bill the army anyway, so they still get paid (or just the insurance company).

There will still be a new convoy with more vehicles.

[Tharkon Fargor]

It is little.

The article also doesn't state whether all of the equipment was destroyed. It simply states that trucks carrying US vehicles were set ablaze. I'm sure with rockets and grenades being involved that some US vehicles destroyed, but it looks more like they were simply impeding the delivery process.

Either way, it's still a small amount in the grand scheme of things. No amount of anti-American sentiment negates that.

Well it's more than they get over longer periods of time so compared to the usual, this is big for them.

[Layedballer]

Well it's more than they get over longer periods of time so compared to the usual, this is big for them.

To the contrary, there a plenty more trucks going in and out of Iraq, that being said, yes I'm sure it has an effect, but it's not enough to make a huge difference

[Nevron]

Also says a guard from a private company got killed. That probably means this private company will just bill the army anyway, so they still get paid (or just the insurance company).

If a security firm is contracted by the military, that organization is still responsible for their own loss compensations. It's not like a "pay per use" cell phone.

[Tharkon Fargor]

To the contrary, there a plenty more trucks going in and out of Iraq, that being said, yes I'm sure it has an effect, but it's not enough to make a huge difference

Ofcourse not, it's not a real guerilla effort up there since most of the population dislike the talibans just as much as the US. Poor people... stuck inbetween pest and colera.

Iraq has been shut down pretty much since the Iraqi puppet regimé has stopped being so puppetish and started talking about its peoples interests, on top of that the US surge has just totaly overwhelmed the iraqies.

[Fro]

It is little.

The article also doesn't state whether all of the equipment was destroyed. It simply states that trucks carrying US vehicles were set ablaze. I'm sure with rockets and grenades being involved that some US vehicles destroyed, but it looks more like they were simply impeding the delivery process.

Either way, it's still a small amount in the grand scheme of things. No amount of anti-American sentiment negates that.

Its little things like this that add up to big defeats for the U.S. Plus it will give a defnite moral boost to this malitia and others like them. You cant just brush off things like this as if they dont matter.

[Temur]

Trucks get set ablaze all the time. This one incident, while bigger then the rest, isn't going to severelly impact them, but in the grand scheme of things (as said above), it does make a larger then usual dent in addition to the weekly attacks.

[Tharkon Fargor]

The difference is its 96 trucks.
Oh well :P

I agree with you Fro but I still disagree. The effort needs to be stepped up if they want to get anywhere and it cant be stepped up because the people don't dig them. At least in Afghanistan.

[Fro]

Going into the middle east all guns blazing was a bad idea. Theres no easy solution and imo its going to get alot worse before anything gets better.

[Nevron]

Its little things like this that add up to big defeats for the U.S. Plus it will give a defnite moral boost to this malitia and others like them. You cant just brush off things like this as if they dont matter.

No, attacking tactical and strategic objectives is what adds up. They attacked a bunch of parked trucks that can be replaced in a matter of days, and it was an isolated event. Besides, there is a constant surplus of supplies overseas. We don't order what we need, we order what we're going to need. It's just a speed-bump, a small delay.

[Tharkon Fargor]

Attacking supply lines helps alot dude.

They can replace it but the deficit keeps growing and the economy is falling appart cause of the Iraq war/afghanistan war and the bailouts. Those two mixed together is a deadly mix. The private security firms are scamming the US so attacking things controlled by them is even better than attacking things controlled by the US directly. Double damage.

[DR.NUMBERS]

I wonder whether the guards were american or not... either way it's interesting that they weren't killed.

They were hired Pakistani security guards. Doesn't take much to figure that:

1) They were outnumbered.
2) They probably have no great love for America = not going to stand and fight.
3) Pay not worth life.

@Fro et al

I know 96 trucks sounds like a lot when you compare it with some armies but it really is nothing to Uncle Sam. Trucks don't matter for shit. We have more than enough trucks + we contract out a lot of hauling work. Even if it were 96 humvees destroyed and not just trucks, it would only be annoying. If 96 humvees were destroyed in 2003-2005, when there was greater demand, it would still only be be quite annoying.

If 96 tanks were destroyed, then there would be shit. If 96 fighter aircraft were destroyed, then there would be shit. 96 trucks? Pfff! We probably GIVE AWAY more trucks than that every year to 3rd world countries/poor allies.

[Yin]

Well its not a "little" damage. Logistics win wars. Also theres no real war in iraq for it to matter at this scale.

[Nevron]

Attacking supply lines helps alot dude.

Helps a lot with what? Delaying a delivery? An isolated attack on parked trucks in a supply route does not have a significant impact. Supply routes are attacked daily in Iraq, and you want to tell me that this one attack on a bunch of parked trucks is going to have an impact on the battlefield?

They can replace it but the deficit keeps growing and the economy is falling appart cause of the Iraq war/afghanistan war and the bailouts. Those two mixed together is a deadly mix. The private security firms are scamming the US so attacking things controlled by them is even better than attacking things controlled by the US directly. Double damage.

Do you honestly think 96 trucks of equipment is going to have an effect on the economy? I know things add up, but you're talking about one ant on a cow farm.

It's almost like you're cheering for the militants.

Well its not a "little" damage. Logistics win wars. Also theres no real war in iraq for it to matter at this scale.

You're right, logistics does win wars. There's a difference between attacking a supply route and crippling a supply route.

Also, the article has nothing to do with Iraq, so you may want to read it.

[Tharkon Fargor]

Nah it won't have a big effect but all I'm saying is that this is the biggest attack for them in the AFGHANISTAN war since it started. Except perhaps the prison release.

So if this isn't news then nothing from there is news. Anything ellse is bullshit and you're the one cheering. Prove me otherwise (that a bigger attack on supply lines has happened) and I'll shut it. If you can't, shut it yourself.

[Nevron]

Nah it won't have a big effect but all I'm saying is that this is the biggest attack for them in the AFGHANISTAN war since it started. Except perhaps the prison release.

So if this isn't news then nothing from there is news. Anything ellse is bullshit and you're the one cheering. Prove me otherwise (that a bigger attack on supply lines has happened) and I'll shut it. If you can't, shut it yourself.

Who said it wasn't news? I simply said it wasn't as big as you're making it out to be. Sure, it's news.

First you were saying it was this huge attack and US got pwnt, then after I added a little perspective you stated "Well, it was big for them". Now you're getting all irate and wanting me to prove to you it's not news, when I never said it wasn't news? That's quite the ultimatum, "prove something you never claimed or shut up!".

Should I apologize for adding a realistic perspective to your one-sided thread?

[Tharkon Fargor]

US was pwned as it is their biggest defeat in the Afghanistan Insurgency. That is being pwned.

Obviously it is not capturing a city or destroying an entire division so its not large in any conventional way but it is definetly a "pwnt" by a badly supplied army that just barely managed to defeat the Russians 20 years earlier with CIA help and is now fighting it alone, with the same weapons they had 20 years ago without the help of CIA.

[Fro]

No, attacking tactical and strategic objectives is what adds up. They attacked a bunch of parked trucks that can be replaced in a matter of days, and it was an isolated event. Besides, there is a constant surplus of supplies overseas. We don't order what we need, we order what we're going to need. It's just a speed-bump, a small delay.

You act as if the American economy isn't already crippled. This is a war of hearts and minds, and moral and confidence plays a big factor. Small victories for the militants like this can build up into much bigger things.

[Daemonicus]

US was pwned as it is their biggest defeat in the Afghanistan Insurgency. That is being pwned.

Obviously it is not capturing a city or destroying an entire division so its not large in any conventional way but it is definetly a "pwnt" by a badly supplied army that just barely managed to defeat the Russians 20 years earlier with CIA help and is now fighting it alone, with the same weapons they had 20 years ago without the help of CIA.

US was is getting "pwned" in Afghanistan because there are not enough troops for that kind of environment. They are in the the same situation as they were in Iraq before the surge of troops. Now shit is rather under control. They are sending additional 20,000 troops to Afghanistan in upcoming few months and more will come when more and more are pulled back from Iraq. You should be expecting major changes in Afghanistan in upcoming year.

[Tharkon Fargor]

Yep. While the Insurgency in Iraq will blossom again. Keep spending yourselves to death =)

[Nevron]

US was pwned as it is their biggest defeat in the Afghanistan Insurgency. That is being pwned.

Obviously it is not capturing a city or destroying an entire division so its not large in any conventional way but it is definetly a "pwnt" by a badly supplied army that just barely managed to defeat the Russians 20 years earlier with CIA help and is now fighting it alone, with the same weapons they had 20 years ago without the help of CIA.

How is it a defeat when US forces weren't involved? They attacked parked trucks. The fact that you say this was the biggest defeat for the Coaltion in Afghanistan when zero Coaltion forces lives were lost shows quite a bit of what you're about.

[Tharkon Fargor]

How is it a defeat when US forces weren't involved? They attacked parked trucks. The fact that you say this was the biggest defeat for the Coaltion in Afghanistan when zero Coaltion forces lives were lost shows quite a bit of what you're about.


That's true, I agree.

It's the biggest material defeat~

[Daemonicus]

Yep. While the Insurgency in Iraq will blossom again. Keep spending yourselves to death =)

Seems like they are doing fine with more and more provinces being handed over to Iraqi security forces. Almost all of the coalition forces are gone and more and more Iraqi brigades being trained, you should expect a smooth transition.

[Fro]

Seems like they are doing fine with more and more provinces being handed over to Iraqi security forces. Almost all of the coalition forces are gone and more and more Iraqi brigades being trained, you should expect a smooth transition.

Keep dreaming....

[Tharkon Fargor]

Seems like they are doing fine with more and more provinces being handed over to Iraqi security forces. Almost all of the coalition forces are gone and more and more Iraqi brigades being trained, you should expect a smooth transition.

Ahh I get it! The plan is to make the Iraqies spend themselves to death while buying weapons from you...Pfft, + the oil being privatized and sold of to US, French and some other companies.

Now I get this whole war-business thing.


Problem is, I don't think the Iraqies will roll that way. I think the Iraqi president is quite a capable guy and he's been making eye contact witih the Iranians for quite some time.

[Kusghuul]

Problem is, I don't think the Iraqies will roll that way. I think the Iraqi president is quite a capable guy and he's been making eye contact witih the Iranians for quite some time.

Aside from the fact that the only people Ahmadinedjad hates more than the USanians are the iraqis.

[Daemonicus]

Ahh I get it! The plan is to make the Iraqies spend themselves to death while buying weapons from you...Pfft, + the oil being privatized and sold of to US, French and some other companies.

Now I get this whole war-business thing.



If it works.

[DR.NUMBERS]

Well its not a "little" damage. Logistics win wars. Also theres no real war in iraq for it to matter at this scale.

It really is absolutely tiny.

In recent years (since 2000) we've given away, free, over 1000 trucks.

Just look at truck production numbers:

M44 2-1/2 ton: 595,000 (Retiring, NG service)
M-809 5-TON: 92,000+ (Data from the 90's)
M939 5-TON: 32,000+ (data from 1998)
M-923 5-TON: 8,200

Thats just the data I can find, I don't know if its complete but already that is over 130,000 modern trucks and possibly 500,000 in reserve.

No biggy.

[Tharkon Fargor]

Aside from the fact that the only people Ahmadinedjad hates more than the USanians are the iraqis.

Keep thinking that, it will make his job easier.

[Tharkon Fargor]

It really is absolutely tiny.

In recent years (since 2000) we've given away, free, over 1000 trucks.

Just look at truck production numbers:

M44 2-1/2 ton: 595,000 (Retiring, NG service)
M-809 5-TON: 92,000+ (Data from the 90's)
M939 5-TON: 32,000+ (data from 1998)
M-923 5-TON: 8,200

Thats just the data I can find, I don't know if its complete but already that is over 130,000 modern trucks and possibly 500,000 in reserve.

No biggy.


It's not about the trucks. Its the stuff in the trucks to.

[Daemonicus]

Keep thinking that, it will make his job easier.

Do you know something we don't know?


You are one of them, aren't you.

[Kusghuul]

Keep thinking that, it will make his job easier.

...Because you know the reason the West was sending weapons to Saddam was that they wanted him to stop the fundamentalists in iraq?

[Fro]

It really is absolutely tiny.

In recent years (since 2000) we've given away, free, over 1000 trucks.

Just look at truck production numbers:

M44 2-1/2 ton: 595,000 (Retiring, NG service)
M-809 5-TON: 92,000+ (Data from the 90's)
M939 5-TON: 32,000+ (data from 1998)
M-923 5-TON: 8,200

Thats just the data I can find, I don't know if its complete but already that is over 130,000 modern trucks and possibly 500,000 in reserve.

No biggy.

Yes, but what happens when you cant get those trucks where they need to be?

[Nevron]

Yes, but what happens when you cant get those trucks where they need to be?

Bring that argument when they make the supply line inoperable.

[Tharkon Fargor]

Do you know something we don't know?


You are one of them, aren't you.

:ohno:

:ninja:

I'm one of those who still reads, yes! :o

[Fro]

Bring that argument when they make the supply line inoperable.

I'm not saying this one attack has done that but more of these attacks could.

[Tharkon Fargor]

...Because you know the reason the West was sending weapons to Saddam was that they wanted him to stop the fundamentalists in iraq?

Times change

[DR.NUMBERS]

It's not about the trucks. Its the stuff in the trucks to.

According to other sources, 70 hmmwv's were destroyed.

Time for perspective.

Since 2000 the US has GIVEN AWAY over 8000 hmmwv's (4000+ to Afghanistan). We have over 70,000 in total. Again, not a disaster, just a disappointment. I mean really, just give away 70 less this year, problem solved, it will be as if we lost none.
I'm sorry Cambodia, you don't get you hmmwv's this year :(

Yes, but what happens when you cant get those trucks where they need to be?

Did they destroy the C-130's and transport ships needed to resupply as well? That these 96 trucks and 70 hmmwv's were destroyed is largely irrelevant. They will be replaced.

[Tharkon Fargor]

Pfft. Given away to the two nations that they are occupying/liberating. Given away to fight the same enemy.

But yeah I get your point, obviously its not alot. The insurgency up there is extremely ineffective because the people don't support the talibans. I'm just saying its the biggest one yet and experts say the insurgency is on the rise over there.

Still getting 70 humvees, 96 trucks and other supplies blown up on a parking lot constitues getting pwned.

[Fro]

According to other sources, 70 hmmwv's were destroyed.

Time for perspective.

Since 2000 the US has GIVEN AWAY over 8000 hmmwv's (4000+ to Afghanistan). We have over 70,000 in total. Again, not a disaster, just a disappointment. I mean really, just give away 70 less this year, problem solved, it will be as if we lost none.




Did they destroy the C-130's and transport ships needed to resupply as well? That these 96 trucks and 70 hmmwv's were destroyed is largely irrelevant. They will be replaced.

To be honest, i'm not sure what we're argueing about. The mension of the US getting pwned and suddenyl everyone got defensive.

...Because you know the reason the West was sending weapons to Saddam was that they wanted him to stop the fundamentalists in iraq?

Saddam never like religous fundamentalists. Thats why we used him to fight the iranians and other fundamentalists.

[Fruitbasket]

HOLY SHIT!

..Ok enough of that. Thats pretty insane that Pakistan would torch that many

BUT!

They were shouting Allah-o-Akbar (God is Great) and Down With America.

Is'nt that contradicting them selfs, because god accepts everyone but there saying down with America? In sense they would not be a god person then? too much thinking...

[sorros]

If that private guard was from Blackwater, 50 bucks says the Rumsfeld will cry out that the private sector needs more funding for training and arms.

And yes, that is where the irony lies in the fundamentalists. Apparently, blowing shit up makes people accept their point of view (pretty sure it just pisses off people even more, if some asshole blew up my house i would go and shoot him)

[Fro]

And yes, that is where the irony lies in the fundamentalists. Apparently, blowing shit up makes people accept their point of view (pretty sure it just pisses off people even more, if some asshole blew up my house i would go and shoot him)

Lol thats real irony right there, Since the military coalition has done the exact same thing.

HOLY SHIT!

..Ok enough of that. Thats pretty insane that Pakistan would torch that many

It was militants from pakistan.

Is'nt that contradicting them selfs, because god accepts everyone but there saying down with America? In sense they would not be a god person then? too much thinking...

Since when was god meant to accept everyone?

[The Cougar]

Not with the what, 1.100 000 000 000 deficit now?
America has unlimited money, didn't you know?

[heroshade]

I remember when the Pakistanis tryed to threaten the U.S. ships. My cousin said he was talking shit to them and trying to start a war! :D

[Fruitbasket]

Since when was god meant to accept everyone?

Well, In the bible it does say that he accepts and forgives everyone. So I mean if you hated god in all ways, he would still forgive you. But its kind of a contradiction that there saying God is Good and Down with America, Like there just using god's power for them to say something. This thought sounded better in my head.

[LordTenacious]

It seems like you two-faces would rather have the Islamic extremists win than NATO.

What a fucking sad day in the world.

[Fro]

It seems like you two-faces would rather have the Islamic extremists win than NATO.

What a fucking sad day in the world.

just trying to point out the facts otherwise i would be just as bad as the Islamic extremists.

[LordTenacious]

Except they aren't facts. I love how you faggots claim to know everything about how the world works.

Me? I don't know much of anything about Afghanistan. That being said, the only person who has actually backed up what he has said is Dr. Numbers.

[Fro]

Except they aren't facts. I love how you faggots claim to know everything about how the world works.

Me? I don't know much of anything about Afghanistan. That being said, the only person who has actually backed up what he has said is Dr. Numbers.

Facts was the wrong tern, i'm just trying to show an objective opinion instead of the hypocrisy alot of poeple spout out. I follow quite alot of whats going on so i have atleast some idea of whats hapening. Its hard to back up predictions for the future of a war.

[Eldest]

I wouldn't say that US got owned there. Highly unlikely that all US resources were used to guard that small cache of supplies.

Another reason for the western world to want a regime change in Pakistan though.

Precisely. It's all a show, ppl. Protection for these troops is deliberately held up to hurt them, thus providing an excuse for an overreaction.
9/11 and other history proves my point definitely.

[Nevron]

Facts was the wrong tern, i'm just trying to show an objective opinion instead of the hypocrisy alot of poeple spout out. I follow quite alot of whats going on so i have atleast some idea of whats hapening. Its hard to back up predictions for the future of a war.

Trying to make this attack out to be something it wasn't is not "just trying to show an objective opinion". You following the events doesn't mean you know the impact of a singular attack on a parked convoy of equipment.

Go ahead and point out the hypocrisy that "a lot of people are spouting" in this thread.

[Bissen]

America has unlimited money, didn't you know?

You mean its citizens have unlimited debt.

[Pcheez]

Good.

With all due respect to the US forces, its a damn shame a few dozen at least didnt die.

How many of your young men need to get disentegrated till you pull your shit out of where you dont belong ?

[Daemonicus]

Good.

With all due respect to the US forces, its a damn shame a few dozen at least didnt die.

How many of your young men need to get disentegrated till you pull your shit out of where you dont belong ?

Blame medicine. The causalities would be much higher if not for the medical wonders we currently have. Instead of a bunch of coffins with American troops we are getting thousands upon thousands disabled veterans, many of which would have died if not for medical advancements. They are returning in masses, alive, yet completely incapable of normal life. It's hard to live when you have no limbs, maybe even half or you face or a portion of your brain. But hey, at least we can say we only have 5,000 casualties as opposed to 47,000. You can't consider dead a vegetable body with no limbs, face or anything resembling a human body, because it's alive, right?

[Daemonicus]

*as opposed to 47,000 in Vietnam.

[Pcheez]

Blame medicine. The causalities would be much higher if not for the medical wonders we currently have. Instead of a bunch of coffins with American troops we are getting thousands upon thousands disabled veterans, many of which would have died if not for medical advancements. They are returning in masses, alive, yet completely incapable of normal life. It's hard to live when you have no limbs, maybe even half or you face or a portion of your brain. But hey, at least we can say we only have 5,000 casualties as opposed to 47,000. You can't consider dead a vegetable body with no limbs, face or anything resembling a human body, because it's alive, right?

Pretty much.

Easier to die with some semblence of honor while doing your "duty", even if not convinced of it.

You posthomously get shiny medals !

[Nevron]

Blame medicine. The causalities would be much higher if not for the medical wonders we currently have. Instead of a bunch of coffins with American troops we are getting thousands upon thousands disabled veterans, many of which would have died if not for medical advancements. They are returning in masses, alive, yet completely incapable of normal life. It's hard to live when you have no limbs, maybe even half or you face or a portion of your brain. But hey, at least we can say we only have 5,000 casualties as opposed to 47,000. You can't consider dead a vegetable body with no limbs, face or anything resembling a human body, because it's alive, right?

That is completely irrelevent to the point. There were no US forces present, so there were no US casualties. You just used his little comment as an excuse to chime in with a tirade that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.

The guy above you simply wishes ill will on Americans. I could understand being disgruntled over our presence in Iraq, but the topic is relative to Afghanistan. Our invasion of Afghanistan is a direct result of 9/11. I disagree with Iraq, I agree with Afghanistan. The prick above you just wants to see Americans dead.

[Daemonicus]

That is completely irrelevent to the point. There were no US forces present, so there were no US casualties. You just used his little comment as an excuse to chime in with a tirade that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.

The guy above you simply wishes ill will on Americans. I could understand being disgruntled over our presence in Iraq, but the topic is relative to Afghanistan. Our invasion of Afghanistan is a direct result of 9/11. I disagree with Iraq, I agree with Afghanistan. The prick above you just wants to see Americans dead.

I agree with your whole statement.

I was just making a side point about stupid concept of numbering US casualties in Iraq. The number does not reflect the reality.

[Pcheez]

That is completely irrelevent to the point. There were no US forces present, so there were no US casualties. You just used his little comment as an excuse to chime in with a tirade that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.

The guy above you simply wishes ill will on Americans. I could understand being disgruntled over our presence in Iraq, but the topic is relative to Afghanistan. Our invasion of Afghanistan is a direct result of 9/11. I disagree with Iraq, I agree with Afghanistan. The prick above you just wants to see Americans dead.

No not really.

I do wish ill upon any and all american armed forces in foreign territories however, nothing personal, they are just tools after all. Plus, its always fun to see a hummvee get shredded by a landmine and limbs all over the place, why, its positively gleeful !

Afghanistan is a direct result of 9/11 eh. Well you didnt find the ghost, it was a fun goose chase, now gtfo, you are most unwelcome there and in iraq.

Why would i wish ill on Americans in general ? Nice people, a bit on the ignorant and self absorbed side for the most part, assumptious and limited (that would be you), however there are many exceptions which are genuinely interesting people.

[Pcheez]

I agree with your whole statement.



I agree with your point of view on his statement.

[Sorontar]

No not really.

I do wish ill upon any and all american armed forces in foreign territories however, nothing personal, they are just tools after all. Plus, its always fun to see a hummvee get shredded by a landmine and limbs all over the place, why, its positively gleeful !

Afghanistan is a direct result of 9/11 eh. Well you didnt find the ghost, it was a fun goose chase, now gtfo, you are most unwelcome there and in iraq.

Why would i wish ill on Americans in general ? Nice people, a bit on the ignorant and self absorbed side for the most part, assumptious and limited (that would be you), however there are many exceptions which are genuinely interesting people.

I won't claim to have respect for you and then add something at the end of the sentence that negates the sentiment.

I won't wish ill on you and then say it's not personal.

I will say that you're a fucking muppet, clear as day.

[Pcheez]

I won't claim to have respect for you and then add something at the end of the sentence that negates the sentiment.

I won't wish ill on you and then say it's not personal.

I will say that you're a fucking muppet, clear as day.

No see you have to look at it from my point of view.

I never said i had any respect for Americans, only a select few that ive had the pleasure of meeting earned my respect.

I do not consider soldiers people for the duration of their service, but simply tools. I do wish for all these tools to critically malfunction. They are not people, as such its not personal.

Im a fucking muppet ? I can agree with that if it makes you feel any better.

[Sorontar]

No see you have to look at it from my point of view.

I never said i had any respect for Americans, only a select few that ive had the pleasure of meeting earned my respect.

I do not consider soldiers people for the duration of their service, but simply tools. I do wish for all these tools to critically malfunction. They are not people, as such its not personal.

Im a fucking muppet ? I can agree with that if it makes you feel any better.

"With all due respect to the US forces" indicates some respect in correct use but more often than not is used to sugar-coat an insult.

Much like "No offence, but I think you're a nimrod"

[Pcheez]

"With all due respect to the US forces" indicates some respect in correct use but more often than not is used to sugar-coat an insult.

Much like "No offence, but I think you're a nimrod"

Deary me, you caught on quick eh.

[Duncandun]

How are radical Muslims doing something radical news?

whys it gotta be muslim?

[Sorontar]

blah blah yada yada

Yawn

[Lysandor]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081207/twl-pakistani-militants-torch-humvees-41f21e0.html


[Set fire to 96 trucks carrying materia (mostly humvees) to US forces in Afghanistan].

Ouch =/

Still not even close to how much the Army itself has burned of their own (contractor's) hardware.

[Pcheez]

Yawn

You should get some sleep, you sound tired.

You even seem to have replaced my text with "yada yada", thats some serious sleep deprivation to do something that silly.

[Jezrith]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081207/twl-pakistani-militants-torch-humvees-41f21e0.html


[Set fire to 96 trucks carrying materia (mostly humvees) to US forces in Afghanistan].

Ouch =/

*yawn*

You have a pretty shitty definition of ultra and pwn...

[Milo Hobgoblin]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081207/twl-pakistani-militants-torch-humvees-41f21e0.html


[Set fire to 96 trucks carrying materia (mostly humvees) to US forces in Afghanistan].

Ouch =/

and yet another idiotic post from Tharkon.

ultra pwned? LMFAO.

get over it already.

[Pcheez]

and yet another idiotic post from Tharkon.

ultra pwned? LMFAO.

get over it already.

Honestly ? If it wasnt for ULTRA PWNED in the title i wouldnt have read the thread.

You see the combination of ULTRA PWNED, in context or not, is attractive.

[IIyx]

When the soviets were there, they controlled the whole Country and build infastructure there for people, even the Afgans miss the old days.
3 million afgnas dead vs 15 soviets.

US and co are not doing anything, just sit at bases and go out to patrols and only control parts of the country.

[Toxic Waste]

When the soviets were there, they controlled the whole Country and build infastructure there for people, even the Afgans miss the old days.
3 million afgnas dead vs 15 soviets.

US and co are not doing anything, just sit at bases and go out to patrols and only control parts of the country.

Why did you necro this?

[palo god]

whys it gotta be muslim?

"They were shouting Allah-o-Akbar (God is Great) and Down With America."

Why did you necro this?

Because people have nothing better to do.