Sounds just like Darkfall...

[xaraaji]

... except that Mortal Online’s melee combat system will be in first person, and that they don’t need as much development time as they do not have to make their own graphics engine.

There is an interview here:
http://www.mmoszene.de/index.php?/MMO-News/Interview-mit-Henrik-Nystrom-von-Starvault-AB

I guess there will be more Ultima Online inspired games in the future.

[HauptmannHP]

Several threads about this. Anyway, it's sort of off-topic, so I'll move it there.

[Barbarossa]

Several threads about this. Anyway, it's sort of off-topic, so I'll move it there.

You guys need to quit sending throwaway topics to OT, it's the number 1 reason the n00bs even discover OT. :D

Seriously...

[HauptmannHP]

Yes, no, maybe. I will consider it.

[Barbarossa]

Come on

OT doesn't stand for 'Our [mods] Trashbin'

Does it?:ohno:

[Daemonicus]

Come on

OT doesn't stand for 'Our [mods] Trashbin'

Does it?:ohno:

Do you HAVE to murder my lines?!

[xaraaji]

Yes, no, maybe. I will consider it.

You have my permission to close it. Seems no one is interested in it

Bump :p

[Barbarossa]

Do you HAVE to murder my lines?!

Murder your lines?


LOL

Pretentious little fuck, aren't you?

[shnedit]

You have my permission to close it. Seems no one is interested in it

Bump :p

we had like 9 billlion threads on it. i even think i have a mo forum account.

[Ludo]

I hate his haircut :/

[GAMEINFORMER]

Mortal Online will be alot closer to what classic UO was than Darkfall Online.

[Niles]

Old. L2Use search.

[yamisniper]

Mortal Online will be alot closer to what classic UO was than Darkfall Online.

more closer to a scam i would say

[Viluin]

Have you been on the Mortal Online forums? They're the biggest carebears ever. Swearing isn't even allowed. That game is gonna fail because it has no PvP community.

[Tribaja]

LoL VAPORWAREZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!1111

[Nasty]

Teaser doesn't show anything that matters. Just touched up theatrical shit. No gameplay videos out. Art direction looks very stock. Those races and graphical style remind me of dreadful asian grind games. Screenshots look like L2 or silkroad online. I can't find a single redeeming feature other than promises from an unproven pre-alpha dev team. Still potentially vaportrash as well.

I don't see a single reason to follow that game with DFO coming out.

[Razli]

we had like 9 billlion threads on it. i even think i have a mo forum account.

I do, from when we all went onto their froums when tehy first went public. Yeah, its shite. (Espically the community. Wasnt there a mod called Violent Whisper...What a Cuntrag.)

[Friik]

About all its features (on paper) seem to be in Darkfall too. Makes me wonder what is there that makes one choose Mortal Online instead of Darkfall Online. It is very obvious that people already playing Darkfall won't have to even think about switching to Mortal Online, but I wonder if those who already follow Mortal Online consider at least trying Darkfall. I mean why would people skip Darkfall and just wait for Mortal if they're quite similar to each other?

Also, if both games succeed, could they both stand with enough player base...

[Beeblebrox]

I'll probably have a long term follower tag on their forums in a few years....meh.

[antihero-zero]

Have you been on the Mortal Online forums? They're the biggest carebears ever. Swearing isn't even allowed. That game is gonna fail because it has no PvP community.

No swearing? How do they feel about hardcore vore porn?

[Seddoron]

Looks good. The graphics are great, there is mounted magic and archery, everything is in first person which is awesome and the races are original.

But i heard that there are instances, which might suck, and the whole thing looks like vaporware, there is only 1 screenshot, and the trailer didn't show any real gameplay.


I mean why would people skip Darkfall and just wait for Mortal if they're quite similar to each other?


Darkfall comes in january, Mortal Online comes next summer or later. Of course i'll get Darkfall but i might give MO a try if it comes out.

[Razli]

I'll probably have a long term follower tag on their forums in a few years....meh.

Thats true, Might go on the forums and see If I have anything.

Currently only 24 people on, 11 memebers. Has darkfall ever been that low?

[Ankh]

wahts be this mortel online?:confused:

[Friik]

wahts be this mortel online?:confused:

I has no idea. maybe something to eat. it tastes good?

[Seddoron]

wahts be this mortel online?:confused:

I has no idea. maybe something to eat. it tastes good?


^
DF Fanboys.

What are you gonna do if it turns out that Mortal Online is not vaporz? And even worse, what if it turns out to be good? OH SNAP!

[Metal Wolf]

Here is zero hour and OT introducing themselves to the forums.

You people are just mad, we arrived at work like 2-3 hours ago and this is just insane.

[Wickfield]

Mortal Online will be alot closer to what classic UO was than Darkfall Online.

And spore really was a 10/10 game.

Fuck you.

[alfaroverall]

Archetypes (essentially "classes", except that they simply limit your capabilities instead of literally putting you into a skillset) are in Mortal (you pick one at the start), that is one major difference between it and Darkfall. Their community is also carebear as hell which makes me think the game will be changed by launch.

Also, old. Also, possible vapor what with pretty much no screens or videos. Keep in mind that Darkfall had screens even in 2001.

[Metal Wolf]

And spore really was a 10/10 game.

Fuck you.


Way to go easy on them there.

[Wickfield]

Way to go easy on them there.

uhhh... I have a headache. too early for forumfall...

[NewTroll]

. I mean why would people skip Darkfall and just wait for Mortal if they're quite similar to each other?

Because MO will release before Darkfall.

[Friik]

Because MO will release before Darkfall.

Proof?

[alfaroverall]

Because MO will release before Darkfall.
Considering that this Aventurine's first official release date, I really doubt this.

[Friik]

^
DF Fanboys.

What are you gonna do if it turns out that Mortal Online is not vaporz? And even worse, what if it turns out to be good? OH SNAP!

Your lack of sense of humor is obvious. So obvious.

[NewTroll]

Considering that this Aventurine's first official release date, I really doubt this.
Proof?

Proof? How would I prove a future event? A fucking meteor could hit Aventurine's development studio.

The statement was based entirely on the way Darkfall's history has looked, there's my "proof". Official release dates mean nothing.

[Viluin]

Here is zero hour and OT introducing themselves to the forums.

And, after realizing how retarded their moderators are, OT left pretty quickly. Their forums are a graveyard now.

That must have been quite a disappointment for the devs after those first few days of high activity.

[Fro]

... except that Mortal Online’s melee combat system will be in first person, and that they don’t need as much development time as they do not have to make their own graphics engine.

There is an interview here:
http://www.mmoszene.de/index.php?/MMO-News/Interview-mit-Henrik-Nystrom-von-Starvault-AB

I guess there will be more Ultima Online inspired games in the future.

Wow origonal. Seriously why do these newbs feel the need to inform us about that Mortal online exists every single day?

[Sabbathius]

You know, I see people sneer on Mortal and other games, like they don't make their own engine and so on.

Umm, well, a finished engine that is optimized and actually works is better than Darkfall's engine, which looks like something pre-Morrowind. People don't care if you use proprietary Uber Flying Ninja Mutant Terminator or some no-name piece of crap, as long as it works. If piece of crap works better than your special made engine, then you wasted 5 years working on it only to release something that is already obsolete. Mortal guys will take the existing engine, slap in enough content and MAKE MONEY. So who's the more foolish?

It'll be funny if Darkfall and Mortal release within just a few months of eachother, and Mortal is hands down better. It'll be hilarious.

[admiralnlson]

Archetypes (essentially "classes", except that they simply limit your capabilities instead of literally putting you into a skillset) are in Mortal (you pick one at the start), that is one major difference between it and Darkfall..You don't have to pick a class in Mortal Online...
Get your facts right.

[Fro]

Because MO will release before Darkfall.

Not if the devs keep their release date.

[Friik]

Proof? How would I prove a future event? A fucking meteor could hit Aventurine's development studio.

The statement was based entirely on the way Darkfall's history has looked, there's my "proof". Official release dates mean nothing.

There has been no official release date before this one in Darkfall's history. Hence, you can't base that argument on Darkfall's history and claim release date means nothing. Now just go away, as you have failed your attempt to troll.

[Viluin]

You know, I see people sneer on Mortal and other games, like they don't make their own engine and so on.

Umm, well, a finished engine that is optimized and actually works is better than Darkfall's engine, which looks like something pre-Morrowind. People don't care if you use proprietary Uber Flying Ninja Mutant Terminator or some no-name piece of crap, as long as it works. If piece of crap works better than your special made engine, then you wasted 5 years working on it only to release something that is already obsolete. Mortal guys will take the existing engine, slap in enough content and MAKE MONEY. So who's the more foolish?

It'll be funny if Darkfall and Mortal release within just a few months of eachother, and Mortal is hands down better. It'll be hilarious.

The Darkfall engine was designed to work with dozens if not hundreds of players on your screen at the same time. Sacrifices need to be made when aiming for that goal. Mortal Online uses the Unreal Engine 3, right? Yeah, good luck with that. :lmao:

And Mortal Online isn't going to release in 2009. 2010 might be possible if they're lucky. They couldn't possibly release an MMORPG this soon, unless it's pure crap which it sounds like it will be anyway.

[sorros]

You don't have to pick a class in Mortal Online...
Get your facts right.

he said archetypes, which are "essentially classes". Get your...reading?...right.

[Nexus]

Why hasn't NewTroll (who is obviously an alt) been banned yet?

[NewTroll]

There has been no official release date before this one in Darkfall's history. Hence, you can't base that argument on Darkfall's history and claim release date means nothing. Now just go away, as you have failed your attempt to troll.
Not enough the devs keep their release date.
Lolwut?

Release dates (S, as in plural) mean nothing. That's not based on Darkfall's history, that is based on the history of gaming. I would say that it applies even more to the company which has been developing a product for what, 8 years now, and broken countless promises to their would-be costumers.

Why hasn't NewTroll (who is obviously an alt) been banned yet?
It's not an alt. This is my one and only account. Atleast I think so, I might have an account from way back but I don't remember actually bothering with visiting this site before they set a release date.

[admiralnlson]

he said archetypes, which are "essentially classes". Get your...reading?...right.You don't have to pick an archetype either. That was my point.

[sorros]

You don't have to pick an archetype either. That was my point.
I think he was referencing this..


In essence, you will have to give up certain attributes and/or skills in favor for others, meaning your choice of skills will be restricted. In turn, you will benefit from certain Class-bonuses as long as you stay true to your Class by meeting the prerequisites. Whether it’s worth to make that sacrifice or not is of course up to you.

It is not necessary, but still.

[sorros]

Lolwut?

Release dates (S, as in plural) mean nothing. That's not based on Darkfall's history, that is based on the history of gaming. I would say that it applies even more to the company which has been developing a product for what, 8 years now, and broken countless promises to their would-be costumers.


Less, they restarted the whole game back in 03, from what i recall. And, cleverly, they never give a date for release, so they haven't really broken any promises yet. January 22nd is the first release date (ignoring the old beta date, years ago)

[Friik]

Lolwut?

Release dates (S, as in plural) mean nothing. That's not based on Darkfall's history, that is based on the history of gaming. I would say that it applies even more to the company which has been developing a product for what, 8 years now, and broken countless promises to their would-be costumers.

They recently broke their promise about 2008 release and pushed it back to January to ensure a decent product. Why would they break the new release date which was put in the same time that they "let us down". Of course it has to be very serious date now. Also, this release date was set
closer to the promised date than the previous one (2008) and obviously is now more accurate too.


It's not an alt. This is my one and only account. Atleast I think so, I might have an account from way back but I don't remember actually bothering with visiting this site before they set a release date.

Yet you JUST SAID release dates mean nothing. Come on! Try at least. :lmao:

[NewTroll]

They recently broke their promise about 2008 release and pushed it back to January to ensure a decent product. Why would they break the new release date which was put in the same time that they "let us down". Of course it has to be very serious date now. Also, this release date was set
closer to the promised date than the previous one (2008) and obviously is now more accurate too.

Aventurine is a company, Aventurine wants your money.

Yet you JUST SAID release dates mean nothing. Come on! Try at least. :lmao:
They don't? I came here to make fun of you people.

[NewTroll]

Less, they restarted the whole game back in 03, from what i recall. And, cleverly, they never give a date for release, so they haven't really broken any promises yet. January 22nd is the first release date (ignoring the old beta date, years ago)

Restarted? So what? Just because you remove the old code and write new one doesn't mean that the development time is somehow decreased.

[Fro]

Lolwut?

Release dates (S, as in plural) mean nothing. That's not based on Darkfall's history, that is based on the history of gaming. I would say that it applies even more to the company which has been developing a product for what, 8 years now, and broken countless promises to their would-be costumers.


It's not an alt. This is my one and only account. Atleast I think so, I might have an account from way back but I don't remember actually bothering with visiting this site before they set a release date.

I'm trying to multitask which is why i made that mistake (should realy leave it to women). What i was saying is DF will release before MO if the devs keep their release date. If is the key word, i'm not expecting them to.

[heroshade]

This was posted more than a year ago. Please die now.

[Viluin]

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/1759-infraction-information-updated-16-06-08-a.html#post32579

5 infraction points = permaban wtf!

[Ultimo]

Why must we continually suffer from MO people thinking they are doing us some sort of a favor?

Is this how annoying us DF folk were back before we had 200k members?

[Friik]

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/1759-infraction-information-updated-16-06-08-a.html#post32579

5 infraction points within 3 months = permaban wtf!

No wonder 50% of the posters there are community managers or something.

[Viluin]

No wonder 50% of the posters there are community managers or something.

Haha, truth.

[paade]

i hope they manage to pull it off, its still head and shoulders better than anything else out there. Cant have too many sandboxes imo.

EDIT: but mods down there are homos and should die in a car fire.

[Xtra-Medium]

MO is old news, in fact i bet on there forums you will see allot of the same names as on DF forums

[Viluin]

MO is old news, in fact i bet on there forums you will see allot of the same names as on DF forums

No, not anymore. Most Forumfallers have left.

[Slaker]

This is old news, we all registered there long ago. I say vaporwarezZZz!

[heroshade]

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/1759-infraction-information-updated-16-06-08-a.html#post32579

5 infraction points = permaban wtf!

I would have been permabanned ten and a half times over. :ohno:

[Slaker]

I would have been permabanned ten and a half times over. :ohno:

Yeah, that's not even funny. This is why there's no one online in that stupid forum.

[Viluin]

I would have been permabanned ten and a half times over. :ohno:


I would've been permabanned more like 27 times.

[Spinewire]

I would've been permabanned more like 27 times.
does not help that brannoc hands them out in 10's :/

[GAMEINFORMER]

And spore really was a 10/10 game.

Fuck you.

Read up on the Mortal Online forums you noob. You will see that Mortal Online is MUCH closer to what classic UO was than DF.

I know it pisses you off that other mmo makers are rolling out some real sandbox mmo's.

\_/ <---- cry into this tear cup noob

[Viluin]

Read up on the Mortal Online forums you noob. You will see that Mortal Online is MUCH closer to what classic UO was than DF.

I know it pisses you off that other mmo makers are rolling out some real sandbox mmo's.

\_/ <---- cry into this tear cup noob

Why won't you post this on your own forum? Oh, that's right, there they would ban your ass for this post.

[Metal Wolf]

Wow, and he spore post continues to cause butthurtness. Thats lasting power.

[GAMEINFORMER]

Why won't you post this on your own forum? Oh, that's right, there they would ban your ass for this post.

:lmao: you

[Fro]

Read up on the Mortal Online forums you noob. You will see that Mortal Online is MUCH closer to what classic UO was than DF.

I know it pisses you off that other mmo makers are rolling out some real sandbox mmo's.

\_/ <---- cry into this tear cup noob

Lol, DFO > Classic UO.

[Paralda]

Do you HAVE to murder my lines?!

Ewww Dec 08.

[Wickfield]

Hmmm...

Can we just ignore that spore post I made? I don't think that, in context, it means anything at all.

I have yet to see anything at all from MO except for promises, an outline of the flagging system, 1 screenshot of a very pretty seascape, and 1 prerendered video. Well... the beginning of the video may have not been prerendered. But the rest of it is clearly cg.

Darkfall on the other hand has provided us with hundreds of screens, a few smaller gameplay videos, one very large gameplay video, numerous updates on skills/in-game systems/clan systems/ city systems/ etc. Oh an lots of promises too :D Let's not forget beta, which has been verifiedly be ongoing for several months (internally and externally).

In my mind DF is a lot closer to release than MO.

[Wickfield]

MO doesn't have a world map up yet either.

Not to say that MO isn't going to release before DF (I mean, like you said, anything is possible).

However, it seems a tad bit unlikely from a logical standpoint.

[Slaker]

MO doesn't have a world map up yet either.

Not to say that MO isn't going to release before DF (I mean, like you said, anything is possible).

However, it seems a tad bit unlikely from a logical standpoint.

I really doubt this game will be good. It seems really crappy in many aspect. Who knows it might be really good...but I don't care, I will be playing Darkfall.

[IthroZada]

I really doubt this game will be good. It seems really crappy in many aspect. Who knows it might be really good...but I don't care, I will be playing Darkfall.

As much as I'm rooting for Darkfall, this statement seems totally unfounded..... I haven't seen anything about Mortal Online that implies that it will suck ass, except maybe that they already have merchandise for sale

[Slaker]

As much as I'm rooting for Darkfall, this statement seems totally unfounded..... I haven't seen anything about Mortal Online that implies that it will suck ass, except maybe that they already have merchandise for sale

I've been following this game since they opened the forum. And its just like a copy of darkfall with Unreal Engine, I doubt they will have massive combats and stuff like that. It won't be open like Darkfall I am sure. I am not saying it will sucks but it won't be better than DF I am almost sure.

[xaraaji]

Hmmm...
I have yet to see anything at all from MO except for promises, an outline of the flagging system, 1 screenshot of a very pretty seascape, and 1 prerendered video. Well... the beginning of the video may have not been prerendered. But the rest of it is clearly cg.
In my mind DF is a lot closer to release than MO.

Well here is an in game footage. Watch the whole thing. At first there is part of the trailer but then it goes in to the interview. There you will see in game footage. Don’t laugh at the accent!
http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=61298&a=1308943


What’s with all the hate in this room? We all love Darkfall so why do we have to hate something which seems very similar. Is it not natural to be curious of other sandbox games?

[keeperofstars]

the skill system in MO is so fucking retarted it will cause the game to fail.

I mean really look at this shit.

Secondary Skills
The Secondary Skills are the bulk of the skill tree. They are of a vast number of skills that are connected to each other in a very complex network. Secondary Skills have to be discovered and learned in the game by books, tutoring and/or to a lesser extent by other means like magic or achievements. The prerequisite of a Secondary Skill may be another Secondary Skill, a Primary Skill, any Attribute or any combination thereof. For example, learning the Secondary Skill “Advanced Poison Making” may require you to have the Secondary Skills “Beast Lore” which in turn is based on “Zoology”, as well as “Poison Making” that is based on “Basic Herbalism” that is based on “Botany” and so on.

I have to learn ferret masterbation, and wolf humping, in order to gain the ability to make advanced poisons? Where the fuck does that make any sense? I mean can't wait to go into a fight, and have my party go "WTF man stop humping that cat and help us kill this dragon." "oh sorry guys its the only way I can finish maxing out my poison skill so I can apply poison on the dragon"

Then there is the stat lose part. 5 minutes per kill. So if you kill 10 people, you stuck with half an hour of 10% stat and skill lose. Noting that its similar to UO where you are basically fucked with perma stat lose if you actually PvP outside of guild wars.

Then there is this gem.

Q: Can I have more than one character on my account?
A: Yes. By creating an account you create your own Deva, or “shared soul”, in the game. Your Deva can have several characters connected to it. The Deva grows in power as each of your characters do and can even learn skills that all your characters will benefit from. Read more about skills and the Deva further down.

Shared skills and abilities based on the amount of time you have to play the game, so more time invested between your crafter, mage, and warrior means your better then everyone. I am not against this concept I am all for rewarding play time dont get me wrong. However, rewarding people for having multiple alts, just sounds like a bad idea.

Now for the whole who cares if they are using the unreal engine 3 to make the game? LOL go talk to fury devs about why its a bad idea do to this. The engine looks great works well, is easy to code / develop with. And sucks major ass balls when you throw more then 10 people in the same area. It's not designed to handle the MMO atmosphere, Its built for FPS.

Now don't get me wrong MO will be a nice gift for all the disappointed UO players that hate what the game has became. It will play very much like old school UO. However, why fucking play a UO copy placed in Unreal engine. When you can play DF. fuck at worse case you can atleast sail around the oceans and blast shit in DF.

Also its not that DF couldnt do the mounted archery / magic. They chose not to as a way to prevent the game from being 100% mounted combat. Go play mount and blade and after some practice you quickly learn that you never get off your fucking horse for anything.

Overall I see MO just closing up shop after DF hits the market. Will be much like Mythos. They have a good product which would have a nice niche, but about a week after Blizzard announced D3 closed up shop, cause they knew even if they beat the release the game would become ghost town after D3 hit the market.

[Slaker]

Yeah the skills system and the PVP system is really fucked up. I remember we could download the pdf of what they want to do with flagging PVP system.

[Wickfield]

Well here is an in game footage. Watch the whole thing. At first there is part of the trailer but then it goes in to the interview. There you will see in game footage. Don’t laugh at the accent!
http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=61298&a=1308943


What’s with all the hate in this room? We all love Darkfall so why do we have to hate something which seems very similar. Is it not natural to be curious of other sandbox games?

ahhh... Well, now we know that it's a real, existing game.

[Slaker]

ahhh... Well, now we know that it's a real, existing game.

Yeah its real but the team seems smaller than Darkfall one. Anyway I hope they will deliver a great game.

Damn when I watch a video about people making video games, I wish I would have gone in this industry!

[saris]

LoL VAPORWAREZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!1111

funny thats what everyone said to me when i showd them darkfall a few years ago :p