Guitar Hero

[Siriel]

Fucking yesss!!! I just beat Lou on expert! Felt soo good man.

Discuss Guitar Hero awesomeness.

[spetznaz007]

Rock Band better!

[Rathynas]

Your sig scares me.

[Beorg]

I hate all those shitty pop games.

[Ankh]

Guitar Hero is fun until you realize how sad you are when you hit your first 1000 note streak.

[Niles]

No, play a real guitar.

[Honest Bill]

Guitar Hero is more difficult than playing an actual guitar.

[Dhig]

I hate all those shitty pop games.

I think its funny to play when you are really drunk.
But other then that its sucks.

[Ankh]

On a more positive note, Guitar Hero is what made me finally pick up a real guitar.

[Beorg]

No, play a real guitar.

Exactly, Guitar Hero and Rock Band are for the incompetent and lazy group of persons who refuse to learn something--even if learning and applying it in the real world would make others look better upon them or even look better upon themselves.

Yeah, I'm pissed.

[Honest Bill]

Also i hate the way playing it makes your vision all fucked up when you look away

I must say i do enjoy the game though in small doses

[Siriel]

Guitar hero is fun when you have friends who also play. Sucks to sit by yourself in front of the tv playing.

I'm thinking about getting World Tour or RB2.

[Barbarossa]

Guitar Hero is more difficult than playing an actual guitar.

You're talking out your ass Bill because your mouth knows better than to let that slip out.

If this were true, we'd have 10's of 1000's of Satriani's, Vai's, Malmsteen's, etc.

And too bad we don't BTW. :D

[spetznaz007]

Actually its a great game if you have FRIENDS! Whenever we used to light a fatty, and had nothing else to do, we would fire up RB, and man that is just fun as hell. Even sober its fun with friends.

[Honest Bill]

You're talking out your ass Bill because your mouth knows better than to let that slip out.

If this were true, we'd have 10's of 1000's of Satriani's, Vai's, Malmsteen's, etc.

And too bad we don't BTW. :D


No because when playing a real guitar you don't get blinking lights of gratification and note streaks to work at. I am reasonable on the guitar, but i can't play GH for shit. Maybe it is because i have conditioned myself to play in a certain way which blocks me from learning the game easily, i dunno

[Siriel]

Exactly, Guitar Hero and Rock Band are for the incompetent and lazy group of persons who refuse to learn something--even if learning and applying it in the real world would make others look better upon them or even look better upon themselves.

Yeah, I'm pissed.

You forgot to mention those who are not interested in learning an instrument, who just play Guitar Hero because they find it entertaining.

[t1337Dude]

Exactly, Guitar Hero and Rock Band are for the incompetent and lazy group of persons who refuse to learn something--even if learning and applying it in the real world would make others look better upon them or even look better upon themselves.

Yeah, I'm pissed.

Yea, and Madden is for fat assholes who are too lazy to pick up a real football and refuse to apply themselves.

Oh wait, Madden and Guitar Hero are videogames that have no relation to the subjects they are actually based on. Guess your logic sucks.

[CuriousGeorge]

You're talking out your ass Bill because your mouth knows better than to let that slip out.

If this were true, we'd have 10's of 1000's of Satriani's, Vai's, Malmsteen's, etc.

And too bad we don't BTW. :D

You forgot Hendrix.

[slugy]

pick up a real guitar? get fucking real. its a computer game.

[Barbarossa]

No because when playing a real guitar you don't get blinking lights of gratification and note streaks to work at. I am reasonable on the guitar, but i can't play GH for shit. Maybe it is because i have conditioned myself to play in a certain way which blocks me from learning the game easily, i dunno

Dude, guitar hero looks to me to be a lot like that Simon game from the 70's.

Not exactly the same but it's still color coded eye hand coordination shit.

No different to me that making your low rider bounce to the music for the mexicans in GTA: San Andreas

[Beorg]

Yea, and Madden is for fat assholes who are too lazy to pick up a real football and refuse to apply themselves.

Oh wait, Madden and Guitar Hero are videogames that have no relation to the subjects they are actually based on. Guess your logic sucks.

I see your point.

However, if somebody wants to play Guitar Hero over an actual Guitar, it shows me they have no desire to play the actual instrument, and so why should they pretend to play as those who actually do?

I believe Madden is different, however, you're not actually pretending to run around a field with a leather ball in your hand. You're making the players execute plays and do what you want them to do. It's more about control, in my opinion.

Either way, I honestly don't feel like I need to explain myself any further on this matter. I don't like Guitar Hero--why pretend to play an instrument if you can actually play one? I played the Guitar and Viola for five years before I sold my instruments and pursued things that were actually achievable. I supposed I'm angry that these people flaunt around and pretend to do what others do, and seem to think they're good at the instrument or have any talent whatsoever. I'm sure it's entertaining, but in my mind the idea behind the game is skewed.

[Barbarossa]

You forgot Hendrix.

There aren't any dead, Dead Guitar Heroes...:D

[Barbarossa]

I see your point.

However, if somebody wants to play Guitar Hero over an actual Guitar, it shows me they have no desire to play the actual instrument, and so why should they pretend to play as those who actually do?

I believe Madden is different, however, you're not actually pretending to run around a field with a leather ball in your hand. You're making the players execute plays and do what you want them to do. It's more about control, in my opinion.

Either way, I honestly don't feel like I need to explain myself any further on this matter. I don't like Guitar Hero--why pretend to play an instrument if you can actually play one? I played the Guitar and Viola for five years before I sold my instruments and pursued things that were actually achievable. I supposed I'm angry that these people flaunt around and pretend to do what others do, and seem to think they're good at the instrument or have any talent whatsoever. I'm sure it's entertaining, but in my mind the idea behind the game is skewed.

I can agree with this, Guitar Hero seems to be little more than 'air guitar' without the air IMO.

[Honest Bill]

Dude, guitar hero looks to me to be a lot like that Simon game from the 70's.

Not exactly the same but it's still color coded eye hand coordination shit.

No different to me that making your low rider bounce to the music for the mexicans in GTA: San Andreas

Yeah it's just like that, except at a blistering pace, And your hand position is different, thus requiring you to make use of all your fingers.

[Tzacharu]

Rock Band > Guitar Hero.

Anyway, the way I see it, it is just a game in the end. Yea, you look pretty stupid playing a plastic guitar with five buttons, but in the end, it's just for fun, like any other video game.

Not to mention what both series have done for the rock genre. With our kids and teens today turning to the shitty rap genre, RB and GH were able to become successful enough to bring rock, especially older rock, more into the spotlight, at least for this generation. I would not be the only person to admit I found a numerous amount good bands through rock band.

My brothers and I all picked up instruments because of Rock Band. At least it's keeping rock popular after rap hit the scene and classic rock died.

[Cheezo]

Why is it that I always hear people complain that Guitar Hero players like to play because they think it's like playing a real guitar, but I've never met anyone who's believed it to be more than just a video game?

[Rummak]

Exactly, Guitar Hero and Rock Band are for the incompetent and lazy group of persons who refuse to learn something--even if learning and applying it in the real world would make others look better upon them or even look better upon themselves.

Yeah, I'm pissed.

Yeah, you care... ***

[Beorg]

Yeah, you care... ***

Looking back on what I said, yes, that indeed was a faggoty comment.

If you'd read my latter comment, you'd see my clearer reason.

[Ankh]

I supposed I'm angry that these people flaunt around and pretend to do what others do, and seem to think they're good at the instrument or have any talent whatsoever.

This is the part where you're horrendously wrong.

[Beorg]

This is the part where you're horrendously wrong.


How so?

Just because somebody's good at Guitar Hero it doesn't mean they can play the guitar because of it. I'm sure there are some people who are good at the Guitar and can play Guitar Hero well, but Guitar Hero does not lead to the ability to play the Guitar.

[NapalmEnema]

Fucking yesss!!! I just beat Lou on expert! Felt soo good man.

Discuss Guitar Hero awesomeness.

Faggotiest game ever.

Every time I see some pale jackoff at Best Buy standing there with the widdle plastic guitar I just start laughing.

:lmao:

[Thaeds]

I play it on my computer and it's more fun to write a program that hits every note and then play fire and flames or w/e on expert in front of my friends. I put the guitar behind my head and just move my hands around like mad (not even to the tune really). They are beyond amazed, but I think they'll catch on soon.

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e-warrior 101

(http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?p=1929480#post1929480)
Ron Paul said it, I said it, why the fuck are you acting like this is unknown to most of us who haven't been blindly following the media?

And who the fuck are you? The top economists disagreed about whether the bailout was a good idea or not, and we won't know for a long time, if ever, who was right. You're opinion was given to you by some e-warrior who managed to sound convincing. You have absolutely no ability to judge the bailout because you don't have anywhere near the education or experience to know the first thing about it.

You are such a fucking generic piece of shit it's actually intriguing. In fact, in order to both show everyone how unique you are, and explore the topic a little further, I present to you, and the rest of forumfall, e-warrior 101, a guide in correctly formed internet arguments. Enjoy!

All of these posts were made in the last 12 hours, and represent half of Lethn's total posts in that time.

This first quote is a classic example of "There is a huge conspiracy and I'm the only one too smart to fall for it"
As with all games I'll just study the gameplay videos and decide myself, frankly I think games reviews are so fucking annoyingly biased towards publishers I wouldn't want to see what people have to say about Darkfall, especially with the vaporware tag it's been given by idiots who haven't bothered checking out the game properly.

Now we have "I'm such a seasoned veteran I don't even have emotions anymore". A great way to show people how in control of everything you really are.

The times they post news and stuff is almost completely random so I'm not going to get my hopes up until I see a news item saying "We're sending out beta emails now" quite frankly.

Possibly the best example of "I don't conform to typical social norms" I've ever seen... His resistance to realize that if not for his extreme social phobia he would fuck anything that moved is remarkable.
She is hot, I just don't find her all that attractive personally :p

Ahh, a classic. The "you are so lucky I decided not to flame you". No e-warrior should be without this in their repertoire.
Must resist... Temptation to flame...

Here our e-warrior unleashes his first combo, starting with "it's okay for me to do whatever I want because I am on a whole other level than the rest of you". It's then followed by an "I can post like a troll, and still call you a troll cause I'm better than you". Really does get the point across.
I ranted about how I cheated and I enjoyed it because of shitty stats based games that force you to play by their rules in order to enjoy the game, kkthxbai troll.

Not only has our friend mastered the use of forum style arguments, but he even tries to educate the masses, as you can see in this explination of "post a lot so anyone who doesn't read it is wrong".
This is why I write walls of texts so people who don't read them look incredibly stupid.

Perhaps in a frenzy of intellectualness we catch a rare glimpse indeed. It seems despite knowing better Lethn very nearly makes a blunder in this timeless "I have a plan so awesome I shouldn't even be talking about it". Whew that was a close one!
Who said anything about anarchy? I'm just going to kill any enemies I see and carve out my own underground criminal empi-.... woops! Almost gave my plan away.

One of the more deceptive and below the belt moves, in my opinion, "I know you are but what am I" does wonders to defray attention from yourself onto another, weaker, e-warrior. Anything goes in e-wars. This move tries to shift public opinion by asserting the e-warriors dominance, thus, only the most powerful e-warriors should attempt it.
Will those fucking assholes stop attention whoring already? As if their clan isn't filled with idiots enough, I can't wait to kill those scumbags in game, they will be on my KoS list.

When you've spent twelve hours or so posting, your fingers and mind can get a little tired, so, much like a kung-fu master uses an opponents own force against them, so will a true e-warrior use his opponents efforts against them. Here we see this in use with "if you understood what you were saying, you'd see you already proved yourself wrong". This is a particularly useful skill both for the brevity, and because of the circularness of the argument. If your opponent didn't even know what they said the first time, then all future posts are invalidated as well, the argument is won in less than a sentence!
Cry more and read your previous posts.

When your opponents own force isn't great enough to use against them, use their weakness instead with "no source, no truth!". It's a doubly whammy to your victim because not only does finding a source take a lot of effort, but that effort also validates your argument by showing that a source was needed! This move is best used in arguments against common knowledge facts.
Okay fucking source please

"I'm so cool I don't even have to act like I'm cool"
bewbz! *runs in circles*

For our grand finale we see something only expert e-warriors should dare attempt. A five part combo which will surely leave any opponent decimated. It gets complicated so I'll break it down to it's parts. It's also safer than viewing the entire attack at once.

He starts off with a solid "you don't read right" questioning his opponents abilities right off the bat.
Clearly you didn't read
Then he moves into a "I have much better things to do" transition which negates the importance of the original point, which then invalidates even the best responses!
I was almost at the end but couldn't be fucking bothered
Another one-two combo, to make it even more embarrassing for someone to correct him, because he "doesn't care"! Masterful.
I don't care
This part of the chain is tricky as an inexperienced e-warrior could easily damage himself with this move, but Lethn is no regular e-warrior! He easily makes his point again with "I'm only good at good games", which not only invalidates arguments for the games, but also increases his skills as a gamer. Remarkable.
getting pissed off because the game wouldn't let me progress anymore.
Rounding out his lethal combo, we see the e-warrior shows how powerful he is with "rules only effect me if I say they do, and that's okay".
I've never cheated in any other games like Morrowind because they allow you to use some tactics instead of just force you to go back.

Now that I've gone over the individual parts, I don't think it can do any serious damage to show you this post in it's entirety... Study it, you can learn a lot.

Clearly you didn't read, I was almost at the end but couldn't be fucking bothered constantly dying and trying to figure out what it was that I did wrong and I don't care, I found it far more fun than just getting pissed off because the game wouldn't let me progress anymore.

Also for the record I've never cheated in any other games like Morrowind because they allow you to use some tactics instead of just force you to go back.

That's it for me guys. Join me next time for e-warrior 102 when we'll go over Rick-Rolls, YTMNDs, Photoshop and other advanced techniques.

Peace out and remember to take care of your ego, it's by far the best defense out there! Stay safe!


That was the most pathetic troll attempt I've ever seen Thaeds as someone who supposedly joined in 2005 I honestly expected better than the usual "Put words into peoples mouth and pretend they're saying something else" tactics that only the trolls on MMORPG.com use.

Seriously, why did you even bother? I'm rather impressed you actually went to the lengths you did to dig up so many quotes but they don't make any point nor do they actually verify anything that you say, you should take a lesson from Jon Stewart on how to dig up peoples' quotes and use it against them he does it very well against politicians.

Not only that, did you even think this would actually bother me in the slightest? Pathetic e-peen stroking like that is something I just laugh at right now because when you resort to trying to personally attack someone then you yourself end up looking like the utter douchebag instead of the person your trying to target.



That was the most pathetic troll attempt I've ever seen
You don't read right.


Thaeds as someone who supposedly joined in 2005 I honestly expected better than the usual "Put words into peoples mouth and pretend they're saying something else" tactics that only the trolls on MMORPG.com use.
I don't conform to typical social norms.


Seriously, why did you even bother?
It's okay for me to do what I want because I'm on a whole other level than you.


I'm rather impressed you actually went to the lengths you did to dig up so many quotes but they don't make any point nor do they actually verify anything that you say
I don't care.


You should take a lesson from Jon Stewart on how to dig up peoples' quotes and use it against them he does it very well against politicians.
Do you have a source for this?


Not only that, did you even think this would actually bother me in the slightest? Pathetic e-peen stroking like that is something I just laugh at right now
If you understood what you were saying, you'd see that you already proved yourself wrong.


when you resort to trying to personally attack someone then you yourself end up looking like the utter douchebag instead of the person your trying to target.
I'm such a seasoned veteran I don't even have emotions anymore.

there's a limit to how much of an asshole you can be.

...Wall of hilarity...And this boys and girls is the difference between an '05er and an '07er.
Bronson;1929518']Wow, bravo and well done!
Holy shit.
pretty hilarious read
Hahaha, thank you so much. I will always be able to look at Lethn's ramblings with a smile on my face now.

I salute you.
oh god many lulz..many lulz....
That was pretty epic.
Thaeds, pat on the back for making me laugh.

Your sig is positively epic. I salute you sir.

[xxpigxx]

I can beat most songs on expert in Rock Band 2 (on guitar). I have no misconceptions. I can play exactly ONE song on real guitar.

Bass I am mediocre IRL . . . but I can beat all the songs in RB2.

RB actually taught me limb independence on drums . . . and I am slowly picking that up IRL.


I find your logic horribly flawed.

[xxpigxx]

Rock Band > Guitar Hero.

Anyway, the way I see it, it is just a game in the end. Yea, you look pretty stupid playing a plastic guitar with five buttons, but in the end, it's just for fun, like any other video game.

Not to mention what both series have done for the rock genre. With our kids and teens today turning to the shitty rap genre, RB and GH were able to become successful enough to bring rock, especially older rock, more into the spotlight, at least for this generation. I would not be the only person to admit I found a numerous amount good bands through rock band.

My brothers and I all picked up instruments because of Rock Band. At least it's keeping rock popular after rap hit the scene and classic rock died.

And this^^