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stony23
12-02-2008, 15:44
http://df.warcry.com/scripts/news/vi...ite=7&id=55313
5. Since there are cannons, is there gunpowder? Will there be old school one shot pistols? (question from phiendish1)

there is in fact no gunpowder in the game, just the cannons. No pistols or other personal firearms are planned. We put cannons in the game because ballistae and catapults on ships just weren't as cool or as much fun as the cannons are. Some may think that cannons in the game could ruin the immersion but they really don't. If it helps, cannons were invented way before personal firearms were, around the 11th century by the song dynasty chinese and came to europe in the 14th century. As the medieval fantasy game concept goes, i think we're chronologically covered

actually, gunpowder was invented by the chinese physician Sun Simiao (581-682 a.d.)

during the tang dynasty (618-906 a.d.) the "fiery" attributes of the powder were discovered.

the first weapons using gunpowder were "fiery arrows" (innovators: Yue Yifang, Feng Jisheng and others).the gunpowder was attached to the arrows in small packages. that was during the song dynasty at 970 a.d.

the first real handheld firearms were built 1259 in southern china, something like a blowgun.


gunpowder found its way to the west in the 12th and 13th century. the first reports about using cannons originate in the west. the almohad dynasty allegedly used them in northern africa in 1204.

Ankh
12-02-2008, 15:46
Who gives a shit? There are hovertanks, there's magic and elves. It's a fantasy game.

Dredgon
12-02-2008, 15:47
The more you know

Nevron
12-02-2008, 15:48
The more you forget.

Harijan
12-02-2008, 15:49
But how do you make gunpowder? I need something to do while waiting for the DF dream to die.

Barbarossa
12-02-2008, 15:49
Some may think that cannons in the game could ruin the immersion but they really don't.

Those the ones who KNOW they are gonna get wtfpwnt by cannons.

"Boo Hoo my merchant ship got sunk by teh evil pirates, this ruins my gaming experience...I'm going back to WoW"


Go already...

Spinewire
12-02-2008, 15:49
The more you forget.
rofl

stony23
12-02-2008, 15:50
i was just pointing out that in fact, personal firearms using gunpowder were actually used before cannons.

tom_gore
12-02-2008, 15:54
The devs apparently think that cannons are cool, but firearms are not. Therefore there will be cannons but no firearms. DF lore is a big pile of crap anyway, so no breaking the atmosphere there.

Barbarossa
12-02-2008, 15:54
i was just pointing out that in fact, personal firearms using gunpowder were actually used before cannons.

Okay already, you did your homework.

Still doesn't matter, cannon are in, pistols aren't.

stony23
12-02-2008, 15:55
i have a cool book for all the first things in the world :p and i wanted to brag about it.

Nevron
12-02-2008, 15:56
i have a cool book for all the first things in the world :p and i wanted to brag about it.

Me too, it's called the internet.

Ankh
12-02-2008, 15:57
Me too, it's called the internet.

Specifically, Wikipedia.

stony23
12-02-2008, 15:59
wikipedia is flawed. its nice but its flawed. and i crosschecked many things from the book over the internet, and realized the internet spits out wrong information alot. wikipedia too.

Ankh
12-02-2008, 15:59
wikipedia is flawed. its nice but its flawed. and i crosschecked many things from the book over the internet, and realized the internet spits out wrong information alot. wikipedia too.

How do you know your book is right?

What are you cross-checking it with?

stony23
12-02-2008, 16:03
i know because my book is written by several scientists, got great reviews all over in science publications, while wikipedia is written by just any guy who has internet. there is no science behind wikipedia.

Ankh
12-02-2008, 16:05
i know because my book is written by several scientists, got great reviews all over in science publications, while wikipedia is written by just any guy who has internet. there is no science behind wikipedia.

So? The internet is like a million people!

stony23
12-02-2008, 16:10
im not saying everything on the internet is wrong. but if you are doing serious scientific research on any subject, you wont be using the internet as a reference

Spinewire
12-02-2008, 16:15
luckly your not doing serious scientific reseach then

stony23
12-02-2008, 16:18
luckly your not doing serious scientific reseach then

no but the guys who wrote the book im bragging about did.

Spinewire
12-02-2008, 16:20
no but the guys who wrote the book im bragging about did.
the name of this book?

Nevron
12-02-2008, 16:23
The Light in the Attic.

stony23
12-02-2008, 16:27
the penguin book of firsts

Ankh
12-02-2008, 17:04
im not saying everything on the internet is wrong. but if you are doing serious scientific research on any subject, you wont be using the internet as a reference

I still vote for the internet, because people don't lie on the internet.

Goodtank
12-02-2008, 17:16
i have a cool book for all the first things in the world :p and i wanted to brag about it.

Goodtank goes for the wind up.

Throws it.

Nails It!:

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