Biggest problem today!

[Silverhandorder]

Life is too easy. Socialist mediocrity has become acceptable because of that alone.

[Tiarilir]

Killing oneself is too easy.

[DocGonzo]

"Biggest Problem Today" = the OP's continued breathing of valuable oxygen

[Rigan Pere]

Life is too easy. Socialist mediocrity has become acceptable because of that alone.

haha i love the pic in your sig. thats epic.

That summit of yours or a google jobby?

[Silverhandorder]

haha i love the pic in your sig. thats epic.

That summit of yours or a google jobby?

Picked it off eatliver.com or something like that.

[Vessol]

In other news, I'm all for a totalitarian dictatorship.

Give me a single reason why it is bad that does not involve "individual's rights".

[Silverhandorder]

In other news, I'm all for a totalitarian dictatorship.

Give me a single reason why it is bad that does not involve "individual's rights".

Heh people these days don't know what individual rights are.

[Temet nosce]

Life is too easy. Socialist mediocrity has become acceptable because of that alone.

I'm so glad you feel this way, and when you go to hunt down a wild land where you can live without such modern comforts as a temperature controlled dwelling, indoor plumbing, and electricity please be sure to hire someone to take a picture of you living in your new found ideal life of squalor.

[DocGonzo]

I'm so glad you feel this way, and when you go to hunt down a wild land where you can live without such modern comforts as a temperature controlled dwelling, indoor plumbing, and electricity please be sure to hire someone to take a picture of you living in your new found ideal life of squalor.

:lmao: ......... first you have to get him out of Mommy's house!

so much for "life is too easy"...eh?

[shnedit]

socialism is win. shit i nearly stabbed myself in face for typing that.

[Vessol]

Heh people these days don't know what individual rights are.

Why do people need individual rights? Make them work for the state to be allowed the right to live. You don't need an economy. Just have people harvest resources, give them what barely what they need to survive, and educate them over time that this is how life always was and that they should be happy they get what they get. Kill the occasional dissidents and maintain order.

[verlox2]

The biggest problem in the world today is those god damn hippies.

[Silverhandorder]

Why do people need individual rights? Make them work for the state to be allowed the right to live. You don't need an economy. Just have people harvest resources, give them what barely what they need to survive, and educate them over time that this is how life always was and that they should be happy they get what they get. Kill the occasional dissidents and maintain order.

Well those who think socialism is great are of the same mind as this statement. Their individual rights are so basic and so convoluted that under todays technology it becomes acceptable.

[Vessol]

Well those who think socialism is great are of the same mind as this statement. Their individual rights are so basic and so convoluted that under todays technology it becomes acceptable.

Socialism isn't about reducing individual rights or what you seem to state it is. Basically it's an economic system where the state owns everything and its all supposed to be "shared about" equally, which is bullshit and will never happen.
What I'm talking about is purposely treating most human beings as nothing more then cattle, I'm not proposing socialism or communism, but rather a totalitarian autocracy. Easily the most stable society. The more "freedoms" there are the less stable the society is.

[Silverhandorder]

Socialism isn't about reducing individual rights or what you seem to state it is. Basically it's an economic system where the state owns everything and its all supposed to be "shared about" equally, which is bullshit and will never happen.
What I'm talking about is purposely treating most human beings as nothing more then cattle, I'm not proposing socialism or communism, but rather a totalitarian autocracy. Easily the most stable society. The more "freedoms" there are the less stable the society is.

You and me may disagree on what individual rights may be.

In any case my argument is that today it is easier to make excuses as to why we should live under mediocrity.

[Vessol]

You and me may disagree on what individual rights may be.

In any case my argument is that today it is easier to make excuses as to why we should live under mediocrity.

Psh, people don't need standards of living. Give barely the amount of food they need to live and if they are lucky a place to sleep, work 'em 18 hours a day and make sure they know they need to breed for the state to produce more.
Individual rights are for pussies. They are just regulations to inhibit profit.
Aren't you against regulations?

[DocGonzo]

Psh, people don't need standards of living. Give barely the amount of food they need to live and if they are lucky a place to sleep, work 'em 18 hours a day and make sure they know they need to breed for the state to produce more.
Individual rights are for pussies. They are just regulations to inhibit profit.
Aren't you against regulations?

the Farce is around with this one...

[Silverhandorder]

Psh, people don't need standards of living. Give barely the amount of food they need to live and if they are lucky a place to sleep, work 'em 18 hours a day and make sure they know they need to breed for the state to produce more.
Individual rights are for pussies. They are just regulations to inhibit profit.
Aren't you against regulations?

Ofcourse I am against regulations. I am also against people's rights being taken away.

[Vessol]

Ofcourse I am against regulations. I am also against people's rights being taken away.

Individual rights are social REGULATIONS. Humans are just a resource to use, you can't put regulations on how you use them. Work them to death, you always can breed some more.
If you give people rights then you are undermining the whole basis of free market capitalism.

[Silverhandorder]

Individual rights are social REGULATIONS. Humans are just a resource to use, you can't put regulations on how you use them. Work them to death, you always can breed some more.
If you give people rights then you are undermining the whole basis of free market capitalism.

O__O Quite honestly I see what you are trying to push here for. You are trying to say there is a grey line and every action by the government should be considered as regulation. I dont see this grey line because I know the difference between what I am entitled to and what I am not entitled to.

[DocGonzo]

now he is for entitlements!!!

[Vessol]

O__O Quite honestly I see what you are trying to push here for. You are trying to say there is a grey line and every action by the government should be considered as regulation. I dont see this grey line because I know the difference between what I am entitled to and what I am not entitled to.

Free Market is about maximum profit with nothing holding it back. If you give people rights then you are holding back the free market. If you give people rights they can't work as many hours harvesting resources, or producing goods, regulation pretty much.
In a free market there is no regulations or individual rights, everything is based off of maximum profit. No labor laws or any of that crap.
ESPECIALLY none of that crap that SOCIALISTS brought up. You know like work place safety, minimum wage, job security.
In a free market you can work people as long as you want, pay them whatever you want, and can fire them at a moment's notice.

[DocGonzo]

...:::just sits back to watch Maestro Vessol at work:::...

you deserve strawberry waffles

[mrbubbles]

YOu need to somewhat combine socialism and democracy becuase socialism spreads the wealth BETTER not completely spread but u still need to harness peoples greed and thats where capitolism comes in. capitolism rides on the greed of people and thats what makes it run so by combining that with the ability to keep the unemploymeny down makes a good economy

We do not live in a socialist contry, far from it actually


but i wouldn't mind adopting some of there ideas and combining them with capitolism



and can fire them at a moment's notice.

That is not true, there has to be an adequet reason i.e. not enough money, they suck at the job

[Silverhandorder]

Free Market is about maximum profit with nothing holding it back. If you give people rights then you are holding back the free market. If you give people rights they can't work as many hours harvesting resources, or producing goods, regulation pretty much.
In a free market there is no regulations or individual rights, everything is based off of maximum profit. No labor laws or any of that crap.
ESPECIALLY none of that crap that SOCIALISTS brought up. You know like work place safety, minimum wage, job security.
In a free market you can work people as long as you want, pay them whatever you want, and can fire them at a moment's notice.

Whoa whoa Free Market is what? Free Market leads to maximum profit. The definition of free market is something very different my friend. Free market is free exchange of goods with no force used to stifle competition.

So you may be getting some things correct like ability of an owner to fire whoever he wants. But this is a sie effect of maximum freedom. Plus last I checked contracts are also enforced by the law. Stop confusing this unnecesarily.

[mrbubbles]

I agree with that

[Silverhandorder]

That is not true, there has to be an adequet reason i.e. not enough money, they suck at the job

Actualy he is right as long as we are talking about true free market. Where the problem comes is that the employe knows that he can be fired at a moments notice. He can either not work, make a contract or go on the employers terms.

[Bloody blade]

The biggest problem today are the fucking fairies and ninjas:ninja:, they won't leave me the fuck alone. The fairies annoy the shit out of me and the ninjas are stalking me constantly. Please tell me how great normal life is.

[Killuminati]

In a free market you can work people as long as you want, pay them whatever you want, and can fire them at a moment's notice.

Yep, you know a lot about what you are talking about...oh wait. I mean you already are clueless enough to think that rights are granted by a central entity.

[Rhys]

The Biggest problem today is metrosexuals. You know you agree.

[Methos43]

The biggest problem today are the fucking fairies and ninjas:ninja:, they won't leave me the fuck alone. The fairies annoy the shit out of me and the ninjas are stalking me constantly. Please tell me how great normal life is.

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2706/ninjasgf8.jpg

[DocGonzo]

The Biggest problem today is metrosexuals. You know you agree.

the Fab Five are outside your window right now, plotting your new makeover

be afraid....

[Honest Bill]

If you want to remove regulations from the markets, then you must also remove regulations from the labour force, which is the majority of the population. Governments would not regulate markets so meticulously if it weren't in their best interest to do so.

If you force people to do things they will eventually get tired of it and you will have a fight on your hands. Give them the impression they are choosing for themselves, and there is no longer a problem

[Rhys]

the Fab Five are outside your window right now, plotting your new makeover

be afraid....

I know, my metro alert 670 went off about 20 seconds ago, don't worry I've got my anti-gay comebacks ready.

[Fruitbasket]

Well, if life is too easy tell them emo kids, they always say its too hard.

[Nexus]

:lmao: ......... first you have to get him out of Mommy's house!

so much for "life is too easy"...eh?

You definatly hit the nail on the head.

[Rhys]

Well, if life is too easy tell them emo kids, they always say its too hard.

They pose that.

[Fruitbasket]

They pose that.

Damn. I guess its a cry that they want the acting teacher too invite them too join because there too scared to go up and ask.

[Rhys]

Damn. I guess its a cry that they want the acting teacher too invite them too join because there too scared to go up and ask.

Nah, they want other people to recommend them to the acting teacher.