Ok, this shit isn't funny anymore [Archive]

alfaroverall

11-24-2008, 01:19 AM

We could always move to another country.... I'm considering it. :confused:
Except they're as fucked as we are. Unless of course you plan to move elsewhere to engage in subsistence agriculture, which IMO is actually a good idea. Less property taxes if any, cheaper initial investment (if you have to buy the land), possibly more fertile soil, and less likelihood of you eventually getting attacked for your stuff.

Hmm...an interesting thought. I wonder if I could move to somewhere in Africa, buy a dozen or two acres for a few thousand dollars, build me a little house, hook up some solar panels and some wiring, and live out my days there...
I was wondering about getting Texas to succeed from America, and then reinstating the Constitution and letting real Americans come live in Texas under the original American manner.
Which is unconstitutional via an actual constitutional amendment, and hence you'd be violating the Constitution to protect it. A painful paradox, is it not?

jordanleroux

11-24-2008, 01:20 AM

I was wondering about getting Texas to succeed from America, and then reinstating the Constitution and letting real Americans come live in Texas under the original American manner.

Obesity and intolerance?

LordTenacious

11-24-2008, 01:21 AM

Slavery and guns actually.

Kashmired

11-24-2008, 01:21 AM

i was wondering about getting texas to succeed from america, and then reinstating the constitution and letting real americans come live in texas under the original american manner.

slaves for everybody!

Madrandomize

11-24-2008, 01:21 AM

I am planning to move to another planet (taking in concern the greek country situation).

We are more fucked up economically than you will ever be.

Bissen

11-24-2008, 01:22 AM

Except they're as fucked as we are. Unless of course you plan to move elsewhere to engage in subsistence agriculture, which IMO is actually a good idea. Less property taxes if any, cheaper initial investment (if you have to buy the land), possibly more fertile soil, and less likelihood of you eventually getting attacked for your stuff.

Hmm...an interesting thought. I wonder if I could move to somewhere in Africa, buy a dozen or two acres for a few thousand dollars, build me a little house, hook up some solar panels and some wiring, and live out my days there...

Planning on killing the native's here aswell?

Temet nosce

11-24-2008, 01:22 AM

It wasn't funny in the first place. Most politics are, this however just flat out fucking isn't.

Lacap11

11-24-2008, 01:22 AM

I find it funny people think that the current economic problems are confined to america only... It is a global economic problem and it isnt much better anywhere else.

Although the people are much fitter.

Kashmired

11-24-2008, 01:24 AM

Bissen

11-24-2008, 01:25 AM

so im fat, what u gonna do?

Spoken from a true fatty.

jordanleroux

11-24-2008, 01:25 AM

so im fat, what u gonna do?

Rub my face in your sweaty man breasts.

stormkiller22

11-24-2008, 01:27 AM

"the government gets a partial ownership stake."

DocGonzo

11-24-2008, 01:28 AM

gg Paulson/Bernake!!!

remember to thank W on his way out

swiftbuster

11-24-2008, 01:28 AM

I've already moved. I'm going to name it Citibankistan.

If that causes issues with copyright or the US Military I'm going to name it "United States of America 2"

I'd live there.

lafayette

11-24-2008, 01:28 AM

Whats a matter slypie, the lulz getting to much for you? You may as well end your life now, because the lulz only get better :p

Honorius

11-24-2008, 01:29 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzSj1yNZdY8&feature=related

Bissen

11-24-2008, 01:29 AM

"the government gets a partial ownership stake."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMYkxszXe9s&feature=related

alfaroverall

11-24-2008, 01:30 AM

Planning on killing the native's here aswell?
Why would I do that, unless they tried to take my stuff? Hell, I might even trade with them if they have some things that I would like. A pity I don't speak any African tongues.

Toxic Waste

11-24-2008, 01:31 AM

Rub my face in your sweaty man breasts.

Heh. Bitch-tits.

Bissen

11-24-2008, 01:32 AM

Why would I do that, unless they tried to take my stuff?

Well you're American ain't ya? :sly:

lafayette

11-24-2008, 01:32 AM

gg Paulson/Bernake!!!

remember to thank W on his way out

and Obama on his way in, NY FED president as Treasury Sec FTW!

DocGonzo

11-24-2008, 01:33 AM

and Obama on his way in, NY FED president as Treasury Sec FTW!

yep indeed...you can blame them for everything AFTER Jan 20 that they do

everything until then...my point stands

alfaroverall

11-24-2008, 01:35 AM

Well you're American ain't ya? :sly:
In that sense? No. Fuck you if you think that's being American.

Also, just putting this out there: only a very small percentage of Americans owned slaves when it was legal to do so. Not so much because they didn't want them as because they were expensive as fuck. A smaller percentage of those people (perhaps the majority, but still not 100%) were extremely harsh to those slaves (that is, performed acts like those described by Frederick Douglass to their slaves).

The fact that we went from a Citigroup bailout to a discussion of slavery in the space of 20 posts is astounding.

Ungraylessness

11-24-2008, 01:37 AM

Before this turns into a America sucks thread, I'd like to point out that this thread is on it's way to becoming an America sucks thread in the hopes that maybe by detecting it early this thread will have a better chance of not tuning out that way.

Europe sucks, go America woot woot.

Slypieguy

11-24-2008, 01:39 AM

yep indeed...you can blame them for everything AFTER Jan 20 that they do

everything until then...my point stands

Lol, you act like the Obama administration wouldn't be just as eager if not more eager to do all this shit. Don't be so naive plz

jordanleroux

11-24-2008, 01:39 AM

Bissen

11-24-2008, 01:41 AM

Lol, you act like the Obama administration wouldn't be just as eager if not more eager to do all this shit. Don't be so naive plz

Dood. You act like he IS president. More explanation of the mans point?

lafayette

11-24-2008, 01:45 AM

yep indeed...you can blame them for everything AFTER Jan 20 that they do

everything until then...my point stands

So your saying we can't blame him for voting for the bailout bill, or pushing an auto bailout, or.... i guess it doesnt really matter, in the end the "free market" system will be the scape goat. Thus ushering in even more tryanny.

Slypieguy

11-24-2008, 01:47 AM

Dood. You act like he IS president. More explanation of the mans point?

He didn't have a point other than "this all officially goes on the Bush administration's watch" even though the Obama boys are cheering from the sidelines (and voting for the shit) as well. Sure it technically goes on Bush's watch, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking Obama would do anything differently.

lafayette

11-24-2008, 01:51 AM

Dood. You act like he IS president. More explanation of the mans point?

He dosent need to be president to see he supports more bailouts, stimulus packages, more out of control spending, continuing the "war on terror" and most of all the magic printing press policy that is the Federal Reserve.

You only need look at who he has surronded himself with, who he has apointed to his cabinet so far, look at his voting record and his campaign speeches.

Its all there hidden behind the "change"

DocGonzo

11-24-2008, 01:57 AM

So your saying we can't blame him for voting for the bailout bill, or pushing an auto bailout, or.... i guess it doesnt really matter, in the end the "free market" system will be the scape goat. Thus ushering in even more tryanny.

everyone involved can take some of the blame pie...but the guys who conceived and wrote the "bailout" plan...and the CiC, take the brunt of the heat...don't you agree?

and no one sane is blaming free market principles...it's the combination of de-reg and then allowing institutions to police themselves that enabled over leveraging and the rest of the fiasco to get completely out of control

the free market is an important pillar, but the greed at any price supply side ideology has proven to be inherently flawed

will the new guys do any better....we don't know, saying anything else is intellectually dishonest....places you bets on your best guess, but no one can honestly say for sure until after the Inauguration

i'm just sayin'...

Sho'nuff

11-24-2008, 02:00 AM

JUst charge card everything you can until it all fails.

Slypieguy

11-24-2008, 02:00 AM

will the new guys do any better....we don't know, saying anything else is intellectually dishonest....

I respectfully disagree and submit that it would be intellectually dishonest to think they would do any better. As lafayette already pointed out, there are plenty of things to look at that lead to an obvious conclusion

DocGonzo

11-24-2008, 02:18 AM

I respectfully disagree and submit that it would be intellectually dishonest to think they would do any better. As lafayette already pointed out, there are plenty of things to look at that lead to an obvious conclusion

so you are trying to say that you can unerringly predict the future based on assumptions made prior to actions taken based upon perceptions of past record?

sweet....how's that working out for you at the track or football pool or stock market, Cassandra?

i dunno if they will do better or worse...if i wanted ot lay a bet, i would say a dead turtle that has decomposed for 3 days in the hot sun could do a better job than the current Administration...

but we will see, eh?

Lacap11

11-24-2008, 03:04 AM

continuing the "war on terror"

He wants to pull out of Iraq, isn't that an improvement over Mccain?

Honorius

11-24-2008, 03:05 AM

He wants to pull out of Iraq, isn't that an improvement over Mccain?

I want a million dollars, is I rich now?

alfaroverall

11-24-2008, 03:07 AM

He wants to pull out of Iraq, isn't that an improvement over Mccain?
Except that an agreement on when we're leaving Iraq has already been signed, and was in progress pretty much at the beginning of the campaigns. Iraq has never been an issue in reality in this election. Obama managed to turn it into one, with the help of the media.

PainlessDeath

11-24-2008, 04:10 AM

Most of the money given out has been in the form of LOANS. We can argue whether or not those loans will be paid, but it isn't like slipping a Chicago cop $20 to not give you a ticket

or is it?

Jackhowitzer

11-24-2008, 04:35 AM

2 words. Chicken Little.

That is all. :ninja:

Carl Ragadamn

11-24-2008, 04:36 AM

The current tint of this thread is lame so I will respond to this...

Hmm...an interesting thought. I wonder if I could move to somewhere in Africa, buy a dozen or two acres for a few thousand dollars, build me a little house, hook up some solar panels and some wiring, and live out my days there...

Depending on the country you are talking about, you could buy alot of land for a few thousand dollars US, but you would need friends and guns to protect what you grow.

verlox2

11-24-2008, 04:37 AM

2 words. Chicken Little.

That is all. :ninja:

The Sky's falling! OMG!!

Wait, those are just missles. False alarm people.

Barbarossa

11-24-2008, 04:38 AM

China will soon own everything in this country.

Still, better than Europe owning this country by far...:D

alfaroverall

11-24-2008, 04:38 AM

Depending on the country you are talking about, you could buy alot of land for a few thousand dollars US, but you would need friends and guns to protect what you grow.
If all I had was a handful of rifles and no friends, where could I go that could get me 10 reasonably fertile acres for $3000 and be able to fend any attackers off?

...Oh wait, fuck. I can't put solar panels on an airplane, and I need those solar panels. Is there anywhere you can get solar panels in Africa? Maybe South Africa makes some...

DocGonzo

11-24-2008, 04:39 AM

If all I had was a handful of rifles and no friends, where could I go that could get me 10 reasonably fertile acres for $3000 and be able to fend any attackers off?

speak spanish, central america...

Bloody blade

11-24-2008, 04:44 AM

We could always move to another country.... I'm considering it. :confused:

You should go to Australia, they speak english, and they are basically america but without as bad as a financial crisis

Slypieguy

11-24-2008, 04:50 AM

so you are trying to say that you can unerringly predict the future based on assumptions made prior to actions taken based upon perceptions of past record?

I didn't say "unerringly." In fact, you have my argument wrong. I wasn't saying Obama will do worse, I said he would have done worse or equally bad if he were president in the current situation, or at least that's what I meant to say. He hasn't voiced any opposition to what's been going on and on the campaign trail he was calling for it from upon high on his rockstar podium. Based on that, yes I think you can unerringly say he would have been as bad or worse than Bush with respect to all the corporate bailouts that have been going on this year. At least Bush voiced some opposition to the auto-makers bailout (I think?)

i dunno if they will do better or worse...if i wanted ot lay a bet, i would say a dead turtle that has decomposed for 3 days in the hot sun could do a better job than the current Administration...

but we will see, eh?

Well then call Obama a dead turtle, as he's cheered on the GOP and voted for all this shit. And I'm sure he'll be more than happy to hand over more taxpayer money to citi if given the opportunity.

DocGonzo

11-24-2008, 04:53 AM

I didn't say "unerringly." In fact, you have my argument wrong. I wasn't saying Obama will do worse, I said he would have done worse or equally bad if he were president in the current situation, or at least that's what I meant to say. He hasn't voiced any opposition to what's been going on and on the campaign trail he was calling for it from upon high on his rockstar podium. Based on that, yes I think you can unerringly say he would have been as bad or worse than Bush with respect to all the corporate bailouts that have been going on this year. At least Bush voiced some opposition to the auto-makers bailout (I think?)

we will just have to agree to disagree here, dead people could have done better than W and cronies....and Barry is pretty smart, for all his flaws..and i just don't see him ever getting the "heckuva job, Brownie" award for handling a bad situation...

alfaroverall

11-24-2008, 04:54 AM

speak spanish, central america...
I do speak a decent bit of Spanish (I tested into third semester Spanish at my university, though I didn't sign up for the class). The plane fare would also be less. If I didn't already have land to work with in the event of such a catastrophe (my grandmother's estate, which is something like 10 acres, of which I directly inherit 1/5 due to a weirdly written will) I would consider rolling with this idea.

Slypieguy

11-24-2008, 04:57 AM

we will just have to agree to disagree here, dead people could have done better than W and cronies....and Barry is pretty smart, for all his flaws..and i just don't see him ever getting the "heckuva job, Brownie" award for handling a bad situation...

Are you fucking blind? He spoke out calling for, and voted for EVERY one of these things. I know you are one of the more intelligent Obamatards around here, but I'm starting to lose faith in you right about now. Obama mirrored Bush on all of this stuff (worse than mirrored him, if you count Bush's opposition to the auto bailout). You gotta be kidding me

DocGonzo

11-24-2008, 05:09 AM

Are you fucking blind? He spoke out calling for, and voted for EVERY one of these things. I know you are one of the more intelligent Obamatards around here, but I'm starting to lose faith in you right about now. Obama mirrored Bush on all of this stuff (worse than mirrored him, if you count Bush's opposition to the auto bailout). You gotta be kidding me

i don't seem to be making myself clear...

i am saying W and crew fucked up tremendously, those who have followed along in any way(from either Party) for the last 8 years share some culpability, but the "Decider" is CiC and we know where the buck stops

i say we don't know what will happen when Barry takes over after Inauguration, and will further state we don't know what will happen up until then as well...

you claim that you are certain that if the hypothetical switch places occurred, Barry would do as bad, or worse than W....i disagree and say there is NO way of knowing that...and give my opinion that dead people could have done better than W, and that Barry is pretty sharp

you claim to know that Barry will do just as bad or worse after he takes over....i say that i don't think many sentient beings in the universe could do as bad, much less worse than W

now, part of the problem here might be on both of our definitions of "worse"

so i'll clarify what i think is better... efficient effectiveness ...getting the fucking job done with the minimum amount of pain/cost

with that criteria in mind...while i in no means, way, shape, or form think Barry is any kind of perfect.... i think he just may do better, in the long run by the criteria i just stated, than W and friends...

hope that helps...

Lioness

11-24-2008, 05:11 AM

Do not worry, Slypieguy!

Obama will save us all!!! ;)

Slypieguy

11-24-2008, 05:14 AM

i don't seem to be making myself clear...

i am saying W and crew fucked up tremendously, those who have followed along in any way(from either Party) for the last 8 years share some culpability, but the "Decider" is CiC and we know where the buck stops

i say we don't know what will happen when Barry takes over after Inauguration, and will further state we don't know what will happen up until then as well...

you claim that you are certain that if the hypothetical switch places occurred, Barry would do as bad, or worse than W....i disagree and say there is NO way of knowing that...and give my opinion that dead people could have done better than W, and that Barry is pretty sharp

you claim to know that Barry will do just as bad or worse after he takes over....i say that i don't think many sentient beings in the universe could do as bad, much less worse than W

now, part of the problem here might be on both of our definitions of "worse"

so i'll clarify what i think is better... efficient effectiveness ...getting the fucking job done with the minimum amount of pain/cost

with that criteria in mind...while i in no means, way, shape, or form think Barry is any kind of perfect.... i think he just may do better, in the long run by the criteria i just stated, than W and friends...

hope that helps...

Ok, well I'm just not willing to accept that Obama's being "pretty sharp" overrides his enthusiasm for and total acceptance of all the Bush policies in this area. I hope I'm wrong, but I tend to put a little more stock in substantive things like voting records and campaign stumping than general notions of one's intelligence.

Slypieguy

11-24-2008, 05:15 AM

Do not worry, Slypieguy!

Obama will save us all!!! ;)

He can save you all he wants, I'm so outta here :)

(And no I'm not being bitter, I was planning to move long before the election)

Weeking

11-24-2008, 05:15 AM

Fylraen

11-24-2008, 05:16 AM

I'd like to move to Africa and buy some giraffes. There's not much a giraffe can't do.

Slypieguy

11-24-2008, 05:19 AM

I'd like to move to Africa and buy some giraffes. There's not much a giraffe can't do.

Can it make you a new sig? :(

No likie that one

DocGonzo

11-24-2008, 05:22 AM

Ok, well I'm just not willing to accept that Obama's being "pretty sharp" overrides his enthusiasm for and total acceptance of all the Bush policies in this area. I hope I'm wrong, but I tend to put a little more stock in substantive things like voting records and campaign stumping than general notions of one's intelligence.

"campaign stumping"...... :lmao:

i do have this very shiny bridge i can sell you....cheap

and in the case we are speaking about...yes, i do think raw intellect comes into play here

it's smart to want to get the job done right, for purely ambition's sake...to get re-elected, and then to add even more to the sure fire entry in the History books

as opposed to the not so smart guy and how he will be remembered and what he has "accomplished" during his time in the Big Chair

i agree, all is flux... and only the future knows the outcome of us living through an old Chinese curse....

may you live in interesting Times... :ninja:

Slypieguy

11-24-2008, 05:24 AM

"campaign stumping"...... :lmao:

i do have this very shiny bridge i can sell you....cheap

The guy was stumping for something that 70% of the country disagreed with at the time, why shouldn't we believe him? He has a hard on for corporate welfare as much as Bush or anyone else, and pretending that isn't the truth is just silly.

DocGonzo

11-24-2008, 05:28 AM

The guy was stumping for something that 70% of the country disagreed with at the time, why shouldn't we believe him? He has a hard on for corporate welfare as much as Bush or anyone else, and pretending that isn't the truth is just silly.

"pretending" to what?

do us both a favor, stick to what i actually type, and not what you project me to "believe"...it will help both our blood pressure

seriously... you'd think i had ever said anything fanboi-ish, far from it...i just think the guy who won was the better choice and will wait for villification until he does something that pisses me off....i gave W a chance too, but he blew it faster than an altar boy in a Boston arch diocese