Metal Discussion

[Rhys]

Search Bar came up clean, so i had the idea.

Are you a metal fan?

I am. :)

Discussion?
NO METALCORE

[AngusFinch]

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=81048
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=80882

Not enough on the front page for you? >.>


Oh yeah: IRON MAIDEN! UP THE IRONS!

[-Jotun]

opeth
rapture
novembre
katatonia
ulver
bloodbath
amon amarth
meshuggah
eluvetie
porcupine tree
old in flames (pre clayman)

yes, metal. much more than that.

[Honest Bill]

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=81048
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=80882

Not enough on the front page for you? >.>


Oh yeah: IRON MAIDEN! UP THE IRONS!


He never mentioned music

[AngusFinch]

Damn, I've been had. But real Iron Maidens are cool... Though UP THE IRONS sounds painful..

[Rhys]

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=81048
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=80882

Not enough on the front page for you? >.>


Oh yeah: IRON MAIDEN! UP THE IRONS!

They are polls for the best metal bands of all time, not general discussion.



meshuggah

old in flames (pre clayman)

yes, metal. much more than that.

Yes, love In Flames, have heard some Meshuggah, never really got into it.

[Honest Bill]

Damn, I've been had. But real Iron Maidens are cool... Though UP THE IRONS sounds painful..


I concur. Real Iron Maidens were indeed cool

[Rhys]

I concur. Real Iron Maidens were indeed cool

Agree, totally.

[emasame]

im quite a fan of tin

[-Jotun]

They are polls for the best metal bands of all time, not general discussion.



Yes, love In Flames, have heard some Meshuggah, never really got into it.

Understandable. New in flames is like comparing gold to shit, don't bother.

Meshuggah I like quite a bit, although the only albums I can stomach most of the time are chaosphere and obzen. The one people need to get into the most is Opeth. Most underrated band in existence.

[Honest Bill]

im quite a fan of tin

Have you seen Tin's collaboration with Copper? It's inspired

[Rhys]

Have you seen Tin's collaboration with Copper? It's inspired

:lmao:

[AngusFinch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5wfqEwX4KM

8 year old(?) Mexican playing Sepultura's Refuse/Resist. Hahah

[Yazinda]

...during my morning shower. i sing not nice, but loud! looool

nah, to be serious, Metal is crap...for me. ;)

Yaz

[Honest Bill]

:lmao:

I'd say it's probably the third best

[Rhys]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5wfqEwX4KM

8 year old(?) Mexican playing Sepultura's Refuse/Resist. Hahah

Isn't there a whole band of Mexican kids that play metal covers?
If I remember correctly, they did a cover of one of Children Of Bodom's songs, I lol'd. But you have to give 'em credit for trying. (They played it quite well)

[AngusFinch]

The Gauchos are awesome. The Trooper cover and the one I posted are epic.

[Rhys]

The Gauchos are awesome. The Trooper cover and the one I posted are epic.

Ah, that's the one. Got The Trooper playing now, co-incidence? I think not.

[CuriousGeorge]

Metal sucks, just a mash of poorly played instruments with a guy sounding like the cookie monster

[Yazinda]

Metal sucks, just a mash of poorly played instruments with a guy sounding like the cookie monster

this!

Yaz

[emasame]

Have you seen Tin's collaboration with Copper? It's inspired


would that be bronze? pretty non-malleable.

[Rhys]

Metal sucks, just a mash of poorly played instruments with a guy sounding like the cookie monster

Poorly played instruments; well, obviously.

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Hmm, cookez.

[CuriousGeorge]

How does that prove they play good?

[Rhys]

How does that prove they play good?

Huh, I don't get it.

[Honest Bill]

would that be bronze? pretty non-malleable.


Fuck yeah. I've even seen them live

[Yazinda]

Huh, I don't get it.

...alot ppl can read notes and play from sheets, but that is no guarantee for good music.

Yaz

[-Jotun]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge View Post
Metal sucks, just a mash of poorly played instruments with a guy sounding like the cookie monster

Worthless and absolutely ignorant opinion. Fail.

Don't come up with the arguement (you hate rap) because no, I don't. There are plenty of artists out there that are infinitely better than anything mainstream at this moment.

Same goes for any genre of music.

[Viluin]

Aluminum is by far my favorite metal.

[-Jotun]

How does that prove they play good?

If you don't understand guitar tabs, please refrain from posting. This comment is also another -1 to your intelligence.

[Rhys]

Worthless and absolutely ignorant opinion. Fail.

Exactly, it's actually funny to watch those kind of people die, unwillingly in the metal society, and they don't even know it.:p

...alot ppl can read notes and play from sheets, but that is no guarantee for good music.

No, not alot of people can read and play that music, it is skillful, technical, and awesome. Now git, socially railroaded rat, you.

[CuriousGeorge]

I know that it's a guitar tab, my point being is that a tab is only a composition and really doesn't give any insight to an artist's skill at playing a musical instrument.

[Rhys]

I know that it's a guitar tab, my point being is that a tab is only a composition and really doesn't give any insight to an artist's skill at playing a musical instrument.

The music was written by the artist, and recorded, played live. I'd say that means he can fucking play it.

[BlueElf]

Yea, love metal. But,not the death metal type stuff.

Im more into what others hate. The Symphonic/ goth type metal.

Nightwish, Lacuna Coil etc

[CuriousGeorge]

The music was written by the artist, and recorded, played live. I'd say that means he can fucking play it.

Youtube link or it Neva happened.

[-Jotun]

I know that it's a guitar tab, my point being is that a tab is only a composition and really doesn't give any insight to an artist's skill at playing a musical instrument.

That's almost halfway true, if you play guitar try to play that riff. It's not as easy as it looks, although you are correct. Sheet music is much more accurate.

Yet stating that all metal is cookie monster is ridiculous. Mikael Akerfeldt is the highest range vocalist I've ever came across in a metal type environment, and traditional metal I believe is quite garbage unless it's mainly american thrash (testament, old metallica, sepultura.) a lot of finnish and swedish bands are quite talented, and incredibly complex as far as music goes. Quite a few bands fail in the vocals category, yet if you haven't seen my 1st page on this thread about the bands I mention, then you'll understand what I'm talking about.

Once you get into vocalists that can actually growl (and understand what the words mean, definately possible) the aggression in this type of music becomes unmatched. Dual harmony guitars with thought provoking vocals, it takes time. I will bet you money that you won't go back once you give it a shot, you close minded people.

[Rhys]

Yea, love metal. But,not the death metal type stuff.

Im more into what others hate. The Symphonic/ goth type metal.

Nightwish, Lacuna Coil etc

Yes, Nightwish is awesome.


Youtube link or it Neva happened.
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[BlueElf]

You either love em or hate em IMO.

IMO, they are the best in thier genre, and very talented.. but ..
after Tarja left they really arent the same :(

[Temet nosce]

Nightwish, Lacuna Coil etc

Yeah, when most people say metal they don't even mean metal. At least those actually are metal, and excellent bands on top of that. Pity about Tarja leaving Nightwish though. The new singer simply can't compare.

[Rhys]

You either love em or hate em IMO.

IMO, they are the best in thier genre, and very talented.. but ..
after Tarja left they really arent the same :(

You mean Children Of Bodom, yeah?

Edit: Nvm.

[-Jotun]

Even to the people who don't believe me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvLn8j4c5l4&feature=related
The Drapery Falls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaNOT2sQ0ew
The Ghost of Perdition

and just to show you their range,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmUKzDiabxU
A Fair Judgement

take it for what you will, but wow. I used to hate growling until I heard quite a few of these bands, can't ever stop listening now. My opinion of course, but after every song (which is completely, and entirely different from them) they top the list for me of greatness. Opeth's singer completely destroys the barrier in what people should think about music like this though. Give this type of music a chance you already-metal fans. It's completely worth it.

[AngusFinch]

If you can't appreciate the skill it takes to play metal and how intricate and detailed it sounds -59 intelligence

If you actually think its just a collection of loud pointless noises, well, as Bruce Dickinson has said, don't listen to it if you don't want to die of a heart attack. I doubt you've heard anything metal sides "Let the bodies hit the floor" or other crappy mainstream songs like that. If you can even call that metal.

Your description doesn't fit any of the most popular metal bands; all having varying vocal pitches and highly skilled instrumentalists.

[BlackVolgan]

i do enjoy metals

[CuriousGeorge]

I agree that most of the mainstream "insert genre here" groups suck balls, most of the time the lesser known musical groups own.

[Rhys]

I agree that most of the mainstream "insert genre here" groups suck balls, most of the time the lesser known musical groups own.

Yes true, but even largely popular metal bands are awesome, but not known to mainstream society, example; Amon Amarth.

[Groenholdt]

YES I AM!

My sign is infact from a Job for a Cowboy cd ^^

[Chaosborn]

I'm mostly into melodic death- black- and folk- metal (Kalmah, Insomnium, Wintersun, Amoral, Catamenia, Shade Empire, Equilibrium etc. blabla) as far as music goes.

My favourite metal altough is tungsten! (Can't belief Forumfall chooses aluminium and tin o_O)

[Rhys]

Yeah, love Melo-Death stuff, like Children Of Bodom and At The Gates, great stuff.

[Ammon777]

I like, listen to, and collect:

ALL METAL !!!

Except metalcore, that shit is weak. To a lesser extent I dont listen to strictly Heavy Metal anymore, except the coolest stuff like Manowar and Guns n Roses. About all the glam rock/metal crap in the 80s, I absolutely think sucks. I guess the only glam metal I still slightly like is the band Ratt, they were kinda kewl.

So I love black metal, death metal, medolic metal, power metal, metal with cleaner vocals, metal with girl singers (Nightwish, ect), gothic metal (not goth metal, i mean like Type O Negative and My Dying Bride, they are true gothic metal), doom metal, thrash metal, the awesome stuff like King Diamond / Mercyful Fate, I love any European pagan music (even if its not metal) -- so METAL METAL METAL ... I am a metalhead!

I would say my favorites would be black metal and a wide variety of various bands ranging from cult metal like King Diamond to Morbid Angel and all over the spectrum. I am aware and listen to pretty much every metal band in existence, even the most rare black metal from Europe.

My collection of metal / other music is ABSOLUTELY INSANELY MASSIVE... But I will say no more about that, lol...

And that is my post about metal...

[Kusghuul]

Why the Hell did you need to drag your girlfriend into a discussion like this? Are you gay?;p

[Ammon777]

I agree that most of the mainstream "insert genre here" groups suck balls, most of the time the lesser known musical groups own.

Thats pretty much the truth. I like some of the mainstream but almost all of the rarer bands are far better.

Why is black metal the best: because the deeper underground the metal, the more superior it really is. Listen to the composition-work of Emperor for example.
Why the Hell did you need to drag your girlfriend into a discussion like this? Are you gay?;p
LOL good point, consider it removed.

[Kusghuul]

Good!;p

Now, Sabbath obviously kicked off the whole metal genre, which was modernised by Judas Priest, then reinvented into several sub-genres during the 80's by bands like Venom and Slayer. But Pantera singlehandedly kept thrash alive during the 90's, and therefore had a much tougher job than any of them. GO PANTERA.

[Ammon777]

Good!;p

Now, Sabbath obviously kicked off the whole metal genre, which was modernised by Judas Priest, then reinvented into several sub-genres during the 80's by bands like Venom and Slayer. But Pantera singlehandedly kept thrash alive during the 90's, and therefore had a much tougher job than any of them. GO PANTERA.Thats a huge sweeping generalization if I ever saw one. And almost entirely innaccurate except for the Sabbath bit. Seriously, fucking do some research before claiming you know metal history.

There were many more influential bands than Venom, Slayer, and fucking Pantera. Didnt you even pay attention to the European scene during that time? OMFG youre from Norway?

1990s + black metal 2nd wave in Norway, does that ring a fucking bell?
1990s + Thrash Metal, does that ring a fucking bell with you?
how about... 1990s + Death Metal, WTF does that also ring a bell?
Wut about the fucking Grunge Metal movement in Seattle? thats still metal.

Pantera was good band, but youre a joke with your claim at knowledge. What about Kreator? Destruction? SEPULTURA?

wut about other bands like Rage Against the Machine?

...

[Ammon777]

AHHHH i just realized my entire previous was based on misunderstanding,

Its too late to edit it, so i wanna correct it here:

Good!;p

Now, Sabbath obviously kicked off the whole metal genre, which was modernised by Judas Priest, then reinvented into several sub-genres during the 80's by bands like Venom and Slayer. But Pantera singlehandedly kept thrash alive during the 90's, and therefore had a much tougher job than any of them. GO PANTERA.Thats a huge sweeping generalization if I ever saw one about Pantera. Good band, but what about Kreator? Destruction? SEPULTURA?

[Aragoni]

Yes. Metal used to be the only music acceptable in my ears 2 years ago. I'm expanding my views and I'm listening to The Latin Kings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Latin_Kings) right now. :D

[Rhys]

Seriously, fucking do some research before claiming you know metal history.

Yes, I can't stress this point enough! Thankyou! :)

[Ammon777]

Yes. Metal used to be the only music acceptable in my ears 2 years ago. I'm expanding my views and I'm listening to The Latin Kings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Latin_Kings) right now. :D
lol, i listen to much more than just metal, too. Buddie!

like old reggae. and European folk music.

I cant seem to get into rap / hip hop, though.
Yes, I can't stress this point enough! Thankyou! :)Hellz ya, nothing better than actual accuracy.

[Rhys]

I'm just metal. :)

Oh and.. Buffalo Soldier..

[Ammon777]

I'm just metal. :)

Oh and.. Buffalo Soldier..
I am probably 96% percent metal.

[Tzacharu]

I don't like grunting/growling. I can't stand listening to it. Any other metal I can enjoy and appreciate though. Iron Maiden, Metallica, Black Sabbath are a couple metal bands I enjoy.

[Ammon777]

I am also starting to listen to old and new punk rock. Classic shit.

MISFITS !!! :cool:
I don't like grunting/growling. I can't stand listening to it. Any other metal I can enjoy and appreciate though. Iron Maiden, Metallica, Black Sabbath are a couple metal bands I enjoy.
You are what I call a "carebear metalhead." Sorry, its the truth.

Black metal vocals are fucking awesome evil shit!

[Tzacharu]

I am also starting to listen to old and new punk rock. Classic shit.

MISFITS !!! :cool:

You are what I call a "carebear metalhead." Sorry, its the truth.

Black metal vocals are fucking awesome evil shit!

Oh well.

Being a carebear isn't too bad. You get to live in clouds.

[Ankh]

I can stand growling if it's legible. And deep and epic enough, like Mikael Åkerfeldt; coolest fucking growl ever. Bloodbath's "Resurrection Through Carnage" is the best showcase of that.

[Groenholdt]

Black metal vocals are fucking awesome evil shit!

Depends on taste :p I like the singer who can go from a deep Growl up too a nicely screaming voice :) ever seen "Zen of Screaming"? Very good movie, teach you how to scream :D

but anyway. I like singer which can vary the way of singing.
I would say Phil from "All that remains" is one of the BEST metal singers with the most evil tecnics ever! Not to mension the badass from Lamb of God... (I know ATR is metalcore or whatever it is but he is still one of the best)

Who do you think is the best metal singer(Who has the best tecnic or other etc etc.)?

[Groenholdt]

I can stand growling if it's legible. And deep and epic enough, like Mikael Åkerfeldt; coolest fucking growl ever. Bloodbath's "Resurrection Through Carnage" is the best showcase of that.

I love him too... kinda have the most sickest growl ever... How the fuck can he sing like that? :eek:

[Ammon777]

Depends on taste :p I like the singer who can go from a deep Growl up too a nicely screaming voice :) ever seen "Zen of Screaming"? Very good movie, teach you how to scream :D

but anyway. I like singer which can vary the way of singing.
I would say Phil from "All that remains" is one of the BEST metal singers with the most evil tecnics ever! Not to mension the badass from Lamb of God... (I know ATR is metalcore or whatever it is but he is still one of the best)

Who do you think is the best metal singer(Who has the best tecnic or other etc etc.)?
I sing black metal vocals in that way, myself. My voice is multi-faceted, I can sing anything from death metal to black metal. I sound most like Satyr of Satryicon. I can bend my voice into many, many sounds. I have been told by some friends that I have at least 6 different metal singing voices, but even then I can change those voices into even more variations.

And I agree.

Who is best? Any of the singers for Mayhem, by far. Including Dead. Listen to any album by Mayhem and you will find the best of the best of those techniques you speak so fondly of. Take a listen to these, specifically:

Mayhem - 1987 - DEATHCRUSH
Mayhem - 1994 - DE MYSTERIIS DOM SATHANAS
Mayhem - 1997 - WOLFS LAIR ABYSS
Mayhem - 2004 - CHIMERA (Special Edition)
Mayhem - 2007 - ORDO AD CHAO

Some of the singers can vary their own voice so widely that it hardly sounds like the same vocalist. That is why they are best at what they do, by far. And all their vocal variations are FUCKING KILLER. Much like mine, but they do it better.

[Aragoni]

I love him too... kinda have the most sickest growl ever... How the fuck can he sing like that? :eek:

He's a nobody compared to Peter Tätgren. Just listen to Bloodbath's song Eaten (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfoMgllphs&feature=related) where he is the vocalist.

Edit: He's also a member (or at least was) of Hypocrisy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFdoLltjCIk). One of the best metal bands ever.

[Ankh]

He's a nobody compared to Peter Tätgren. Just listen to Bloodbath's song Eaten (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfoMgllphs&feature=related) where he is the vocalist.

Tätgren is pretty damn good as well, but I prefer Åkerfeldt; less grunt, more growl ;)

[Vaisnt]

Progressive Metal - Dream Theatre ftw.
John Petrucci = ftw
Mike portnoy = ftw
Asian man = ftw
FTW! FTW FTW FTW

[Aragoni]

Tätgren is pretty damn good as well, but I prefer Åkerfeldt; less grunt, more growl ;)

Weakling.

[Ankh]

Weakling.

Pussy.

[Vaisnt]

Pussy.

Fish Smelling Tacos!

[Aragoni]

Pussy.

Pussies are awesome. So tiny, yet they can give you so much pleasure.

[klokateer #7829]

I can fall asleep to metal.

It's good.

[Honest Bill]

Pussies are awesome. So tiny,

You've clearly never met my wife

[Aragoni]

You've clearly never met my wife

Oh yes I have.

[klokateer #7829]

You've clearly never met my wife

most of us have

[Ankh]

most of us have

Oh.

Snap.

[Vaisnt]

Oh.

Snap.


Why does everyone have to snap, can't we clap or shuffle?

[Ankh]

Why does everyone have to snap, can't we clap or shuffle?

I don't know, I usually waltz.

[Honest Bill]

Oh yes I have.


Well then you'd know that 'tiny' is in no way an appropriate description of her vagina

[Ankh]

Well then you'd know that 'tiny' is in no way an appropriate description of her vagina

Depends, he probably wasn't the only one tapping her at the time.

[Kusghuul]

Black metal vocals are fucking awesome evil shit!

No, they're silly. They sound like Donald Duck with a cold. Sorry, it's the truth.

[Groenholdt]

I sing black metal vocals in that way, myself. My voice is multi-faceted, I can sing anything from death metal to black metal. I sound most like Satyr of Satryicon. I can bend my voice into many, many sounds. I have been told by some friends that I have at least 6 different metal singing voices, but even then I can change those voices into even more variations.

And I agree.

Who is best? Any of the singers for Mayhem, by far. Including Dead. Listen to any album by Mayhem and you will find the best of the best of those techniques you speak so fondly of. Take a listen to these, specifically:

Mayhem - 1987 - DEATHCRUSH
Mayhem - 1994 - DE MYSTERIIS DOM SATHANAS
Mayhem - 1997 - WOLFS LAIR ABYSS
Mayhem - 2004 - CHIMERA (Special Edition)
Mayhem - 2007 - ORDO AD CHAO

Some of the singers can vary their own voice so widely that it hardly sounds like the same vocalist. That is why they are best at what they do, by far. And all their vocal variations are FUCKING KILLER. Much like mine, but they do it better.

Just a simpel: Can you talk after a concert?/a bit harder to talk?
Just curious :)
Can you Pig Squeals? ^^

btw I heard some of the Mayhem songs from ORDO AD CHAO, sorry but I didn't like it :( guess the Black Metal(Or just Mayhem) is too "messy" for me :/

but I like the interview with them at Wacken xD never seen some saying so much shit in ONE interview xD the leadsinger is funny :lmao: (I know they are drunk :p)

Try listen to Job for a Cowboy. He has a damn nice tecnic(my opinion)
(try watch "Bearing the Serpents lamb"(Death Metal) and "Entombment of the Machine"(Deathcore)) :)

[Honest Bill]

Depends, he probably wasn't the only one tapping her at the time.

Don't be ridiculous. There's no way 15 guys could all fit into our trailer at once

[Ankh]

No, they're silly. They sound like Donald Duck with a cold. Sorry, it's the truth.

I hope you're not Norwegian, infidel!

[Aragoni]

Depends, he probably wasn't the only one tapping her at the time.

Truth! I had Mohammad on my side and he knows how to make things wider! :sly:

No, they're silly. They sound like Donald Duck with a cold. Sorry, it's the truth.

To your ears maybe. To each of his own.

[Kusghuul]

To your ears maybe. To each of his own.

i just can't make out what they're saying. Perhaps it's "Mum, i wet my pants again! i'm gay (that would be Gaahl)!" or something like that. i like punk bands like Sick of it All, and Opeth's alright, i guess. Slayer's got a few cool screams, with Kreator, Exodus, Sepultura/Cavalera Conspiracy and Pantera's vocals being fitting. But once it starts going Hatebreed, i get this image of a little boy that didn't get enough hugs when he was a kid.

Edit: Oh, and Satyricon are alright, but they're on the light side. Emperor are cool though!

[Kusghuul]

I hope you're not Norwegian, infidel!

Half Norwegian!

[Ankh]

i just can't make out what they're saying. Perhaps it's "Mum, i wet my pants again! i'm gay (that would be Gaahl)!" or something like that. i like punk bands like Sick of it All, and Opeth's alright, i guess. Slayer's got a few cool screams, with Kreator, Exodus, Sepultura/Cavalera Conspiracy and Pantera's vocals being fitting. But once it starts going Hatebreed, i get this image of a little boy that didn't get enough hugs when he was a kid.

Edit: Oh, and Satyricon are alright, but they're on the light side. Emperor are cool though!

Hardcore/Metalcore type screaming is indeed shit.

[Aragoni]

i just can't make out what they're saying.

I don't have any issues with that. Maybe it's because I've listened to it for years but I dunno. And how can you live in Norway and not like Black Metal!? THIS IS MADNESS!

[Kusghuul]

Hardcore/Metalcore type screaming is indeed shit.

Ah, but then we agree! Venom is fun for a bit cheesy metal with Heaven's Burning and all that carry on. Pretentious black metallers are amusing too. But i'm more into thrash than black or doom though. Listened to a bit of Darkthrone and Dimmu when i was younger, but it's cheesier than a Poison ballad.

[FivosRazor1]

i only gotta say 3 things.
1.Kamelot
2.Blind Guardian
3.Iced Earth

[Sho'nuff]

Ah, but then we agree! Venom is fun for a bit cheesy metal with Heaven's Burning and all that carry on. Pretentious black metallers are amusing too. But i'm more into thrash than black or doom though. Listened to a bit of Darkthrone and Dimmu when i was younger, but it's cheesier than a Poison ballad.

\m/ Dooooom \m/

[Ammon777]

Just a simpel: Can you talk after a concert?/a bit harder to talk?
Just curious :)
Can you Pig Squeals? ^^
No i cant do "pig squeals" like Cradle of Filth, sorry.

And no, I do not use the same vocal cord section as speaking. I never have throat problems. I can sing that way for hours, actually, with no stress at all.

Talking is not affected in any way.

But thats just me...

If i went on concert and sang that way every day for 3 hours, every day, for a long time, like over 2 years, then yes... I would have stress on my vocal cords to a certain extent, but thats nothing that taking the time out and healing doesnt cure.
btw I heard some of the Mayhem songs from ORDO AD CHAO, sorry but I didn't like it :( guess the Black Metal(Or just Mayhem) is too "messy" for me :/
Its not messy at all, its extremely complex and sophisticated. The notes are precise and its ingenius, too bad I have to explain that shit to you. Mayhem in its current state is the most advanced band in metal, bar none, except for the death metal band Suffocation, nothing comes close to the complexity and genius of Mayhem. I have heard almost every metal band under the sun, I know this shit and I know it well.

[Ammon777]

No, they're silly. They sound like Donald Duck with a cold. Sorry, it's the truth.
Do not, they sound like an evil warlock out in the misty forest in the night.

Alternatively they are supposed to sound exactly like demons.

Its all a matter of perspective.

If you think Donald Duck, then you clearly have a very cartoony viewpoint.

Stop watching the Disney Channel, that shit warps your mind.

[Erroneous]

I can't help but laugh at the pseudo-intellectualism that surrounds metal music and the countless niche genres they define which compose this mess of music.

[Ammon777]

I can't help but laugh at the pseudo-intellectualism that surrounds metal music and the countless niche genres they define which compose this mess of music.
You couldnt fucking perform any of this music if you fucking tried!

I cant help but laugh at ur weak stupidity, carebear.

Go back to ur rap / hip hop, country music, outdated jazz, emo rock, Madonna, Tori Amos, or whatever the fuck weak shit graces ur piece of shit intellectual ears, you fucking musical carebear!

:lmao:

[Groenholdt]

Its not messy at all, its extremely complex and sophisticated. The notes are precise and its ingenius, too bad I have to explain that shit to you. Mayhem in its current state is the most advanced band in metal, bar none, except for the death metal band Suffocation, nothing comes close to the complexity and genius of Mayhem. I have every fucking metal band under the sun, I know this shit and I know it well.

Sorry m8, but it's too bad you can't see what I mean with "messy"... Ofc I didn't mean like it sounded like shit or coundn't understand what was going on but the numbers I heard... not.. good...

and about the Genius of Mayhem... nah... you opinion.com, try that...


I have every fucking metal band under the sun, I know this shit and I know it well.
GZ...! -_- I just listen to bands because I like the music...

btw... I took your comment like a: "Hey Groenholdt, I am better than you and Mayhem OWNS"


Sorry to say m8, but you are that kind of type, who is not fun to talk with... Always coming with serious answers etc etc... :( never any fun... I am sorry if I offended you but I feel that your comment is offending me... a lot...

EDIT: Is your Nickname IRL: Norri and do you come from Finnland? ^^

[Ammon777]

Ehhhh... man... I am sorry, Groenholdt. Most of the time I am fun to talk with but today I am in sour mood, Forumfall annoys me. When I am annoyed I will not be fun to talk with. Ask my friends here, they know I am like that.

edit -- And I think you read far too much into what I said. I tend to come off too strongly. I was just stating my opinion, and i have a bad habit of stating my opinion as absolute fact, lol... I wasnt meaning to talk down to you. Anyway I will be logging off forumfall for rest of day, I am not doing so good.

[Erroneous]

You couldnt fucking perform any of this music if you fucking tried!

I cant help but laugh at ur weak stupidity, carebear.

Go back to ur rap / hip hop, country music, outdated jazz, emo rock, Madonna, Tori Amos, or whatever the fuck weak shit graces ur piece of shit intellectual ears, you fucking musical carebear!

:lmao:

Hmm, where did I say that I have an intellectual taste in music? And (I hate this term by the way since people more often than not use it in completely irrelavant context as in this case) why am I a carebear again?

As plenty of people have been trying to tell you being difficult to play does not necessarily make something more enjoyable.

[kehmesis]

opeth
rapture
novembre
katatonia
ulver
bloodbath
amon amarth
meshuggah
eluvetie
porcupine tree
old in flames (pre clayman)

yes, metal. much more than that.

Our tastes are pretty similar...

[Ammon777]

Hmm, where did I say that I have an intellectual taste in music? And (I hate this term by the way since people more often than not use it in completely irrelavant context as in this case) why am I a carebear again?

As plenty of people have been trying to tell you being difficult to play does not necessarily make something more enjoyable.
You insulted my musical choices like a fucking troll, expect to get the same in kind. And I consider your kind a "musical carebear," thats all my definition. You dont like metal? Then fuck off and shut ur mouth. I dont care for ur opinion.

edit -- You came to a thread all about metal and then dissed teh metal. Wut did you expect? Cry more!

[Groenholdt]

Ehhhh... man... I am sorry, Groenholdt. Most of the time I am fun to talk with but today I am in sour mood, Forumfall annoys me. When I am annoyed I will not be fun to talk with. Ask my friends here, they know I am like that.

edit -- And I think you read far too much into what I said. I tend to come off too strongly. I was just stating my opinion, and i have a bad habit of stating my opinion as absolute fact, lol... I wasnt meaning to talk down to you. Anyway I will be logging off forumfall for rest of day, I am not doing so good.
ok np there m8, sorry my fault then :)

Quick question:

Are ya called Norri? and comes from Finnland? ( I tell you why after if needed)

[Ammon777]

ok np there m8, sorry my fault then :)

Quick question:

Are ya called Norri? and comes from Finnland? ( I tell you why after if needed)
No man, I have no clue what/who Norri is... from Finland?

[inox]

I like bronze and silver, those are quite awesome. Silver because it's grey, but shiny. Bronze for no particular reason that I can think of.

Arsis and Amon Amarth are my favourite music bands. Anyone who disagrees is a ***.

[Groenholdt]

No man, I have no clue what/who Norri is... from Finland?

Just knew a guy which sounded like you :p needed to be sure you wasn't him

[Erroneous]

You insulted my musical choices like a fucking troll, expect to get the same in kind. And I consider your kind a "musical carebear," thats all my definition. You dont like metal? Then fuck off and shut ur mouth. I dont care for ur opinion.

I will say that your responses have been very metal.

Also, I did not mean to insult anyone's taste in music, I can understand why people like metal music, I just find it funny the way they over-analyze it.

[Groenholdt]

I will say that your responses have been very metal.

Also, I did not mean to insult anyone's taste in music, I can understand why people like metal music, I just find it funny the way they over-analyze it.

I must say that I agree with you... Too bad that some peps(Which like metal) are sometimes a bit weird :(

I am not weird, I am just a Dane... ^^

[inox]

I am not weird, I am just a Dane... ^^

I think your language qualifies as weird.:ohno::ohno:

[Groenholdt]

I think your language qualifies as weird.:ohno::ohno:

:eek: saying a guy who's from No(i)way :ohno:. Why can't you have pretty girls like the Swedish and then come to Denmark? :( we have so many ugly girls here :cool:

[Mordhak]

:eek: saying a guy who's from No(i)way :ohno:. Why can't you have pretty girls like the Swedish and then come to Denmark? :( we have so many ugly girls here :cool:

Including your mom

[Kusghuul]

Do not, they sound like an evil warlock out in the misty forest in the night.

Alternatively they are supposed to sound exactly like demons.

Its all a matter of perspective.

If you think Donald Duck, then you clearly have a very cartoony viewpoint.

Stop watching the Disney Channel, that shit warps your mind.

Have you seen the Call of the Winter Moon music video by immortal? it is hilarious! Wee cute orange cloaks, wizard's hats and stuff! it's like Donald Duck meets Gandalf the Gay!

[Ammon777]

Have you seen the Call of the Winter Moon music video by immortal? it is hilarious! Wee cute orange cloaks, wizard's hats and stuff! it's like Donald Duck meets Gandalf the Gay!
Yes that video indeed a joke. But it still possess the good old black metal spirit!

which is rediculus in itself. I mean, black metal is called "black" because its about black magic, which black magic refers to Christian concepts of demons and Satan. All those concepts are, of course, fantasy elements.

So... yeah... its all based on fantasy.

Hence, we have Immortal video.

They have even said from the beginnning that video was pretty much a joke.

Black metal musicians have humor as well. The image on albums and the music are only serious because it would seem "wrong" if it were not that way. I mean, what metal fan would actually buy an album that had Donald Duck concepts and the lyrics were about the Chipmunks.

This stuff is entertainment. Darkfall is serious in its rendition of fantasy themes, is it not? We Darkfall fans would look down on cartoony MMOs -- like World of Warcraft! Does this make us geeky? YESH!

Same thing with black metal, and all metal for that matter. Does that make metalheads geeky? YESH!

I take the actual musical elements seriously. They are an artform and I like to consider art seriously. The singing vocals of black metal, I take more seriously than anyone else, because I do it myself. The only way I am able to do that is to take upon myself, temporarily, the aspects of those concepts that I pull out from my mind. Its an artform, so are the guitar instrumentations, ect... Its all an expression.

Everything else conceptually is pure fantasy and should be regarded as such. The themes of darkness, evil, ect... In most cases that is all bullshit, nobody is really like... except for Mayhem, those guys are actually truelly evil, and really they were the only ones. Burzum was a murderer but he was also a pagan. He was not christian and not associated with christian concepts of evil. But thats another story.

[Aragoni]

I mean, what metal fan would actually buy an album that had Donald Duck concepts and the lyrics were about the Chipmunks.

*coughs*

[Kusghuul]

Yes that video indeed a joke.

it was certainly not meant as one at its conception!

[Ammon777]

*coughs*
I mean, who here besides Aragoni would buy such a thing? :)
it was certainly not meant as one at its conception!How do you know that? I read a book that says otherwise. Immortal said it themselves. Come on, stop makin up stuff, k. Immortal vocalist says that it wasnt really a serious video. It was self-expression. Like a novel. Like Stephen King, it delt with the macabre and strange, and that is why Immortal and black metal is kewl, imo.

Now the Satyricon video of Mother North, that was a bit more serious, but just a tad more, mainly because it dealt with pride of the Norwegian blood. This is all self-expression, black metal in Norway was a statement, it was a statement that screamed "FUCK ALL OF YOU, WE EMBRACE TEH OLDE WAYZ and/or EVIL WAYZ!"

Nothing more, nothing less.

[Ammon777]

There was a band called Death, one of the originators of death metal: that guy was fucking famous for being one pleasant-acting guy. Even other death metal musicians, they are just really cool people, for instance Morbid Angel, even if you still believe their luciferic rhetoric, they are law-abiding people, and they are fucking cool as hell. Only Gorgoroth and earlier black metal bands were actually misbehavers. Gorgoroth keeps that spirit alive, in that regard (his sexual orientation makes no difference to me).

That shows that for the most part, the themes do not affect the people. If they manage to do that, it stops being an artform and self-expression, rather it turns into a political statement such as that of the 2nd wave of black metal. That was partly why they were so influential, because they attempted to LIVE the music, as well as perform it. Only Gorgoroth and Mayhem still practice that philosophy, everyone else like Satyricon has sold-out to the mainstream.

Even then, bands like Immortal made crappy videos that expressed that political statement. They burned down churches, in reality. That video though? If anyone takes it seriously then they need to go watch Lord of the Rings movies and start praying nightly to Sauran.

[Aragoni]

Gorgoroth keeps that spirit alive, in that regard

I cannot give you a precise example but I've heard that in Russia we still have Black Metal freaks, burning down churches. :p

[Ammon777]

I cannot give you a precise example but I've heard that in Russia we still have Black Metal freaks, burning down churches. :p

Uhhh I think you are right, because I possess numerous (lol) albums of Eastern European and Russian black metal bands that are not fooling around...

Even then, those Russians still do not possess the original spirit of black metal in Norway. The Norwegian inner circle burned down churches as a self-expression againt the Christianization burnings of pagan shrines. It was revenge. And while it was a political statement against rampant christian culture in Scandinavia, it was at the same time a deeply personal expression on their part.

I know this stuff cuz i read books about it. Based on facts :)

Those Russian church burnings, if they are in fact actual and not rumor, are just a reflection of the Norway burnings. They try to keep the spirit alive. But they fail because the 2nd wave has been over for very long time... In fact there were several church burnings in AMERICA after the years following the Norway ones. They were in the same exact spirit of:

Copy Cat Church Burning Time !!!

But they lack the original reasonings behind it. In this way they lack the true spirit. They were all copy cats, theres no doubt in my mind.

[TheTrooper]

opeth
rapture
novembre
katatonia
ulver
bloodbath
amon amarth
meshuggah
eluvetie
porcupine tree
old in flames (pre clayman)

yes, metal. much more than that.

Porcupine tree isn't really metal they're more progressive rock, don't know what you were thinking. First concert I went to was porcupine tree though so i agree they're awesome.

Personally I like Gamma Ray, Helloween, Blind Guardian, Iron Maiden, Avantasia, Edguy, pretty much any other power metal/speed metal except dragonforce. Also like most traditional heavy metal bands ie Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, etc.

[Aragoni]

Helloween

MR. TORTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LordBritish]

Well it depends what you see as Metal ....lots of the 'youglings' put death and stuff like that under metal while for me its nothing but plain noise .

i draw the line with Slayer

So here my all time 10 favorite album/records:

1 Annihilator - never never land
2 Slayer - Reign in Blood (only for the music!!)
3 Dio - Holy Diver
4 AC/DC -powerage
5 Metallica - Master of puppets
6 Pantera - Cowboys from Hell
7 Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
8 Machine Head - The Blackening
9 Exodus - Tempo of the damned
10 Dokken -Under lock and Key (not quite metal but i love it)

[Aragoni]

Well it depends what you see as Metal ....lots of the 'youglings' put death and stuff like that under metal while for me its nothing but plain noise .

i draw the line with Slayer

So here my all time 10 favorite album/records:

1 Annihilator - never never land
2 Slayer - Reign in Blood (only for the music!!)
3 Dio - Holy Diver
4 AC/DC -powerage
5 Metallica - Master of puppets
6 Pantera - Cowboys from Hell
7 Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
8 Machine Head - The Blackening
9 Exodus - Tempo of the damned
10 Dokken -Under lock and Key (not quite metal but i love it)

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'nuff said.

[Mordhak]

Well it depends what you see as Metal ....lots of the 'youglings' put death and stuff like that under metal while for me its nothing but plain noise .

i draw the line with Slayer

So here my all time 10 favorite album/records:

1 Annihilator - never never land
2 Slayer - Reign in Blood (only for the music!!)
3 Dio - Holy Diver
4 AC/DC -powerage
5 Metallica - Master of puppets
6 Pantera - Cowboys from Hell
7 Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
8 Machine Head - The Blackening
9 Exodus - Tempo of the damned
10 Dokken -Under lock and Key (not quite metal but i love it)

Sup grandpa.

They have internet in the retirement home now?

[LordBritish]

yes kiddo

[Kusghuul]

Uhhh I think you are right, because I possess numerous (lol) albums of Eastern European and Russian black metal bands that are not fooling around...

Even then, those Russians still do not possess the original spirit of black metal in Norway. The Norwegian inner circle burned down churches as a self-expression againt the Christianization burnings of pagan shrines. It was revenge. And while it was a political statement against rampant christian culture in Scandinavia, it was at the same time a deeply personal expression on their part.

I know this stuff cuz i read books about it. Based on facts :)

Those Russian church burnings, if they are in fact actual and not rumor, are just a reflection of the Norway burnings. They try to keep the spirit alive. But they fail because the 2nd wave has been over for very long time... In fact there were several church burnings in AMERICA after the years following the Norway ones. They were in the same exact spirit of:

Copy Cat Church Burning Time !!!

But they lack the original reasonings behind it. In this way they lack the true spirit. They were all copy cats, theres no doubt in my mind.

So me burning down houses would be me expressing revenge for the forest that used to be there?

[Ammon777]

So me burning down houses would be me expressing revenge for the forest that used to be there?
Smart one!

Let me ask an equally retarded question:

You are from Norway and you dont know your own people's religious background and historical precedent?

[Rhys]

You are what I call a "carebear metalhead." Sorry, its the truth.

Black metal vocals are fucking awesome evil shit!

Absolutely, I am indeed starting to like you. :)

[t1337Dude]

it was certainly not meant as one at its conception!
Says who? I read that some TV station wanted them to made a music video and they only had $10, so they decided to go buy some torches and fool around in the forest.

That's some serious shit.

[Kusghuul]

Smart one!

Let me ask an equally retarded question:

You are from Norway and you dont know your own people's religious background and historical precedent?

i do. But i find running around preaching the old Norse stuff as silly as Wicca. New age bullshit, the lot of it. Odin, Balder, Loke, Tor, Hel, Frøya, Frøy and Heimdall just strike me as outdated. True enough, there's a political party called Vigrid whose top position is "Odin's Chief Prophet" or something equally silly. They apparently think blonde jokes are racist etc. Singing/growling/screaming tales of Valhalla just doesn't amuse me. And where the fuck did that question come from? Just because i don't like Black Metal doesn't mean i can't appreciate my own fucking history.

[Saturday Saint]

meshuggah


o shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

I had forgotten about these guys for the longest time. Groove metal for the fucking win!

Had to go listen to some of their stuff. Rational Gaze is a great song.

EDIT: Bleed kicks it's ass, though.

[aruzo]

Top 5 Metal Bands (In no order, cause I don't think much about this...I mostly listen to Japanese Rock)

GWAR, Slayer, Rammstein, Megadeth & Iron Maiden.


I really need to start listening to more Metal!

[Dhig]

Rawr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V-wpSCM9Jk

[Saturday Saint]

Top 5 Metal Bands (In no order, cause I don't think much about this...I mostly listen to Japanese Rock)

GWAR, Slayer, Rammstein, Megadeth & Iron Maiden.


I really need to start listening to more Metal!

Allow me to start you off with a few bands...

Lamb of God (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QGa0ZK2gPI)
Dark Tranquillity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGX4rJOFsTg)
(Old) Mudvayne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih04nCAy5RE)
Kamelot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qdcl67H1Jw)

That's just a little bit. I tried to get a pretty good variance in those, so listen to all of them.

[Rhys]

Well it depends what you see as Metal ....lots of the 'youglings' put death and stuff like that under metal while for me its nothing but plain noise .

i draw the line with Slayer

So here my all time 10 favorite album/records:

1 Annihilator - never never land
2 Slayer - Reign in Blood (only for the music!!)
3 Dio - Holy Diver
4 AC/DC -powerage
5 Metallica - Master of puppets
6 Pantera - Cowboys from Hell
7 Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
8 Machine Head - The Blackening
9 Exodus - Tempo of the damned
10 Dokken -Under lock and Key (not quite metal but i love it)

Yes, I see your point, the Metal made before "the change" took place, still great bands in there like Maiden, Metallica, Dio and Slayer.

Although, Death isn't just a teenage, Myspace thing. (At least here in Australia.) We barley even have a metal scene at all. People don't like Death Metal and it's sub genres because for many reasons, but if you can respect it, that's fine.

[Rhys]

o shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

I had forgotten about these guys for the longest time. Groove metal for the fucking win!

Had to go listen to some of their stuff. Rational Gaze is a great song.

EDIT: Bleed kicks it's ass, though.

Yeah, Bleed is awesome.

[Skird]

Did anyone go to Paganfest? That Folkish sound that bands like Moonsorrow, Eluveitie, and Finntroll have is always a win.

[Incanam]

I really like Iron Maiden's brand of metal (specially their newer brave new world albulm...but the oldies are great too).

I have also listened to some sabbath. That's really about it.

[Rhys]

Did anyone go to Paganfest? That Folkish sound that bands like Moonsorrow, Eluveitie, and Finntroll have is always a win.

No, what kind of music was it mostly, stuff like Amon Amarth?

[DocGonzo]

Metal is born (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqy4DTHGqg) - 1970, Warpigs by Black Sabbath...still holds up as awesome to this day

Sabbath brought something new in their creation...ionic scales and power chords, this wasn't Zeppelin's sped up blues with distortion pedals, this was Metal in it's primal incarnation

Complexity is added (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrO1Tu4ehvM) - i bought my first bass after seeing these guys in 76 at the Felt Forum, nothing at the time even came close to the sheer virtuosity on their Instruments coupled with pure sonic power...

again, originality in composition, Rush lived in 7 count times...their timing in full stops and intricacy paved the Way for a lot of Metal that was to come...as Musicians they are still a gold standard few come close to

Speed shreds into the mix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BstyQX-kQQ) - Lemmy and crew kick it to 11, chainsaw thunder crashes down upon all, with a true Punk sensibility...all the fancy stripped down to a bloody minded assault...more originality...nobody could sound like Motorhead

adding it all up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUOpUqni0_g) and tossing in the dual guitar harmonies explored by Thin Lizzy as well as an operatic singer and over the top lyrics, Iron Maiden brought the Melody

after this, all the sub-genres really bloomed into their own things, and pure Metal became all kinds of hyphenated offspring , including the "hair" metal that destroyed the innate Integrity of what Metal really is....driving all the other subcategories underground with their big contracts and hair...some decent Musicians, but the puke they spewed didn't just suck, it dragged it's braces wearing teeth while chewing bubble gum trying to be Van Halen and marketed like Zeppelin.....until....

the Thunder awoke with a black tooth grin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvH9ddfzrI) - once again the purity of Metal had a home, some might think it thrash or whatever category...but no, this was real Metal once again...if you don't own Pantera's "Vulgar Display of Power" , your collection is woefully incomplete

after them, comes all the rest...once again split into the many sub-genres with a lot of great Players and good stuff out there...but at least this time around...there's no "hair"

[hissil]

I have a black metal band

[Skird]

No, what kind of music was it mostly, stuff like Amon Amarth?

I'd say Amon Amarth is way heavier than anything there. The music there was definitely stuff you could drink and dance too. Instruments that were present included: the Accordion, Hurdy Gurdy, Bag Pipes, Violin, Recorder, Lute, et cetera. Both of bands below were there.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtdvoKpLevc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnOkPVqncAc

[Demonata1324]

What do you guys think of metallicas new CD? Is it worth buying?

[-Jotun]

What do you guys think of metallicas new CD? Is it worth buying?

Sucks. Totally disregard buying this cd if you have any respect for actually good Metallica.

[Rhys]

What do you guys think of metallicas new CD? Is it worth buying?

Death Magnetic, voted worst Metallica album apart from St. Anger, couple of good songs on there, nothing really special though.

'd say Amon Amarth is way heavier than anything there. The music there was definitely stuff you could drink and dance too. Instruments that were present included: the Accordion, Hurdy Gurdy, Bag Pipes, Violin, Recorder, Lute, et cetera. Both of bands below were there.

Ah, so more Folk Metal kinda stuff, awesome. Where was it at?

Anyone a Nightwish fan?

[Rhys]

Sucks. Totally disregard buying this cd if you have any respect for actually good Metallica.

I wouldn't say it like that, it's worth buying, but I wouldn't intend on rushing out to buy it.

[Rhys]

Actually, just listened to it again, don't both getting it.

[DocGonzo]

Actually, just listened to it again, don't both getting it.

you could say that about any Metallica after Master of Puppets, imo

Apocalyptica doing their tunes has more Integrity

[Rhys]

you could say that about any Metallica after Master of Puppets, imo

Apocalyptica doing their tunes has more Integrity

It depends really, older Metallica isn't as popular among Nu-Metal fans. So heh.

[Uvita]

Wow. Seems like this place isn't infested with Deathcore(Fagcore) kids :o

Yay!


Also, I prefer necrotic black metal, like early Darkthrone, Emperor etc

[Rhys]

Wow. Seems like this place isn't infested with Deathcore(Fagcore) kids :o

Yay!


Also, I prefer necrotic black metal, like early Darkthrone, Emperor etc

Yeah, I felt quite ashamed when the search bar came up with nothing.
Haven't heard those, will get some.

[IthroZada]

So after skipping over everything in this thread I decided to post this joke, as I have not read the thread there is a large chance someone already posted this, but 11 pages of metal is not how I want to spend my next half hour.



http://www.t-shirtrater.com/images/threadless/metal_fan.jpg


By the way, threadless is a great place to get shirts, I personally own this one (http://media.threadless.com/subs/big/114839.gif)

[Olgard]

All thing Mega. That is all.

[Nevron]

Dethklok!

[Leeroy]

Dethklok!

Yes! Dethklok rules!

[t1337Dude]

Dethklok sucks. The show is occasionally funny but their music is shit. I know it's supposed to be a joke, but they still released an album and the album sucked. Shitty vocals. Shitty drumming. Shitty riffs.

[t1337Dude]

Kamelot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qdcl67H1Jw)


That's the gayest music video and possibly the gayest band I've seen in awhile.

[Kusghuul]

Wow. Seems like this place isn't infested with Deathcore(Fagcore) kids :o

Yay!


Also, I prefer necrotic black metal, like early Darkthrone, Emperor etc

Lulz. Arendalitt. That's an odd genre. "Necrotic Black Metal."

you could say that about any Metallica after Master of Puppets, imo

Apocalyptica doing their tunes has more Integrity

...And Justice For All is good, even though i usually don't like Metallica.

[Aragoni]

Dethklok!

Tbh I find that band to be one of the best Death Metal bands that exists today. With or without Metalocalypse. Their songs like Murmaider (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRJCXymlWxg) & The Lost Vikings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urXOKRSGFqo) just blows my mind away. I have The Dethalbum. :D

Btw: Anyone here that listens to King Diamond (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS_ZcwJm6fU)? He plays kick ass music, even though he's from Denmark.

[Uvita]

Lulz. Arendalitt. That's an odd genre. "Necrotic Black Metal."

It's not really a genere, but alot of black metal isn't necrotic ;)

[Nevron]

Dethklok sucks. The show is occasionally funny but their music is shit. I know it's supposed to be a joke, but they still released an album and the album sucked. Shitty vocals. Shitty drumming. Shitty riffs.

I disagree. While the whole thing is meant to be more or less a joke, they still have better material, writing, riffs, and so on than most of the 'serious' bands in the genre.

[t1337Dude]

I disagree. While the whole thing is meant to be more or less a joke, they still have better material, writing, riffs, and so on than most of the 'serious' bands in the genre.

Death metal (like most genres) is filled with shitty throw-away bands. Dethklok probably isn't better than any of them. The vocals are enough of a reason to not bother listening to this shit, but when you factor in that most of the songs are filler (90+%) with lame drumming, why not just listen to something else? Thunderhorse, I'll admit, was a decent song. Hatredcopter wasn't bad either. But besides that, all you have are a bunch of half-assed riffs thrown together to make generic melodeath songs.

Hell, I don't even know if I'd call this melodeath. It sounds like power metal most of the time.

[-Jotun]

Death metal (like most genres) is filled with shitty throw-away bands. Dethklok probably isn't better than any of them. The vocals are enough of a reason to not bother listening to this shit, but when you factor in that most of the songs are filler (90+%) with lame drumming, why not just listen to something else? Thunderhorse, I'll admit, was a decent song. Hatredcopter wasn't bad either. But besides that, all you have are a bunch of half-assed riffs thrown together to make generic melodeath songs.

Hell, I don't even know if I'd call this melodeath. It sounds like power metal most of the time.

truth.

[Eyrothath]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1VQjlGkkf8

Best melodic death metal band that there is.. Instrumentals are very power metalish and so is his clean vocals, they just throw death metal vocals in there..

[Rhys]

I honestly have heard alot of shit about Deathklok, so I haven't heard it yet. Any one like Folk/Viking metal?

[Saturday Saint]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1VQjlGkkf8

Best melodic death metal band that there is.. Instrumentals are very power metalish and so is his clean vocals, they just throw death metal vocals in there..

I clicked on the link and noticed it wasn't Dark Tranquillity. This renders your statement false.

[Rhys]

I clicked on the link and noticed it wasn't Dark Tranquillity. This renders your statement false.

I also noticed it wasn't Children Of Bodom, double false.

[heroshade]

We the Kings and Greenday for the win!!!! Oh wait, you ment ACTUAL metal, okay, yeah.

Maiden and Preist were the gods that we praised!

[Rhys]

We the Kings and Greenday for the win!!!! Oh wait, you ment ACTUAL metal, okay, yeah.

Maiden and Preist were the gods that we praised!

Yes, Maiden ftw. But who are these "Kings" of which you spik?

[Sho'nuff]

opeth
rapture
novembre
katatonia
ulver
bloodbath
amon amarth
meshuggah
eluvetie
porcupine tree
old in flames (pre clayman)

yes, metal. much more than that.

Like your picks; although I must admit, I like clayman.

[heroshade]

Yes, Maiden ftw. But who are these "Kings" of which you spik?

Crappy emo band. Just look up "Check Yes Juliet" in Youtube, I don't feel like linking it.

[Rhys]

Like your picks; although I must admit, I like clayman.

Yeah, clayman. And no further.

Finntroll anyone?

[Sho'nuff]

hahha Finntroll is my first line of music when I start in on the drink. :D

[Rhys]

hahha Finntroll is my first line of music when I start in on the drink. :D

Haha, it's awesome. At least I think. :)

[Sho'nuff]

Haha, it's awesome. At least I think. :)

No no, it is awesome. And even better, the music improves with each drink.

[Rhys]

No no, it is awesome. And even better, the music improves with each drink.

Hahahaha, as I'd expect. :lmao:

[Aragoni]

The lack of Shining (http://www.myspace.com/shininghalmstad) in this thread is depressing. :(

[Lotharr]

I dig Thrash the most.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2dIWNsbfRI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk_L1drrzJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOd-T58qHLA

Of course the obvious bands like Pantera are superb, too.

[L!v1d]

not a fan of metal personally. I was back in the day, but anymore it just gets annoying.

[halcyonskys]

piece of mind over killers?
inconceivable!

Well it depends what you see as Metal ....lots of the 'youglings' put death and stuff like that under metal while for me its nothing but plain noise .

i draw the line with Slayer

So here my all time 10 favorite album/records:

1 Annihilator - never never land
2 Slayer - Reign in Blood (only for the music!!)
3 Dio - Holy Diver
4 AC/DC -powerage
5 Metallica - Master of puppets
6 Pantera - Cowboys from Hell
7 Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
8 Machine Head - The Blackening
9 Exodus - Tempo of the damned
10 Dokken -Under lock and Key (not quite metal but i love it)

[Rhys]

not a fan of metal personally. I was back in the day, but anymore it just gets annoying.

Why? :ohno:

[Kusghuul]

It's not really a genere, but alot of black metal isn't necrotic ;)

Hva inn i helvete er nekrotisk svart metal?;p

[Rhys]

Hva inn i helvete er nekrotisk svart metal?;p

English pl0x

[Ankh]

English pl0x

"What the hell is necrotic black metal"

[AngusFinch]

"What the hell is necrotic black metal"

The material you need in WoW for the Uber Death Knight tier 5 armor.

[Ankh]

The material you need in WoW for the Uber Death Knight tier 5 armor.

Zing!

[Aragoni]

Hva inn i helvete er nekrotisk svart metal?;p

Dunno. Man kan ibland tro att det finns 7000-miljoner olika sorters Black Metal.

[Kusghuul]

Dunno. Man kan ibland tro att det finns 7000-miljoner olika sorters Black Metal.

Én for hvert band!

One for each band!

[Aragoni]

Én for hvert band!

One for each band!

Haha! Typ något sådant. :D

[Whisky Bob]

I stopped reading posts after someone mentioned Children of Bodom is a good band. Not.
Top 7
1. Ac/Dc but this is not metal
2. Motorhead
3. Judas Priest even if hallford is gay, they actually created Heavy Metal
4. Black Sabbath
5. Testament (their new album kicks balz)
6. Pantera
7. Exodus


I also like:
Opeth.

I dislike:
Iron Maiden - its kinder-metal

I hate:
Children of Bodom
Burzum
CRADLE OF FILTH
any melodic speed metal (Shitsody and Nightshit) (Rhapsody and Nightwish)
MANOWAR - prolly the most gay band in on the entire planet
Bathory
actually most of the new stuff is shit

Forgot to mention Satyricon.

[Aragoni]

I stopped reading posts after someone mentioned Children of Bodom is a good band. Not.
Top 7
1. Ac/Dc but this is not metal
2. Motorhead
3. Judas Priest even if hallford is gay, they actually created Heavy Metal
4. Black Sabbath
5. Testament (their new album kicks balz)
6. Pantera
7. Exodus


I also like:
Opeth.

I dislike:
Iron Maiden - its kinder-metal

I hate:
Children of Bodom
Burzum
CRADLE OF FILTH
any melodic speed metal (Shitsody and Nightshit) (Rhapsody and Nightwish)
MANOWAR - prolly the most gay band in on the entire planet
Bathory
actually most of the new stuff is shit

Forgot to mention Satyricon.

How tha fuck can you hate Burzum and Bathory? :ohno:

Edit: Oh wait you're Polish. The land of the Christians :lol:

[AngusFinch]

I dislike: Iron Maiden - its kinder-metal

I hate:
any melodic speed metal (Shitsody and Nightshit) (Rhapsody and Nightwish)

Tonight, you are going to die. :ninja:

[Rhys]

Tonight, you are going to die. :ninja:

Damn straight, melo-death ftw. Oh and Bathory.

[Ankh]

"Black" sounds to mainstream to me, so my band is going to be "Dark grey". Also, metal is so last year; my band has so many subgenres it's going to be a "Dark grey alloy" band.

[Rhys]

Also, metal is so last year

LOLWUT?

Metal will be around until everyone who likes it dies and it can no longer be composed.

[Ankh]

LOLWUT?

Metal will be around until everyone who likes it dies and it can no longer be composed.

You don't seem to have taken the gist of my post.

[Rhys]

You don't seem to have taken the gist of my post.

No I don't think I have. :(

[DocGonzo]

"Black" sounds to mainstream to me, so my band is going to be "Dark grey". Also, metal is so last year; my band has so many subgenres it's going to be a "Dark grey alloy" band.

call it Twilight Bronze?

or perhaps Pewter, yeah ...that sounds right

[Ankh]

call it Twilight Bronze?

or perhaps Pewter, yeah ...that sounds right

Actually, we might go with a ceramic genre.

[iluhaftw]

Punk rock!@!@!

[DocGonzo]

Actually, we might go with a ceramic genre.

damn...and here i had thought Pewter was perfect...a heavy grey metal alloy

i mean, c'mon, ffs....

[WhiteGuy]

Born of Oisirs
Burning the Masses
Bring me the Horizon
Suicide Silence
White Chapel
Annotations of an Autopsy

[Kusghuul]

My ex once said she liked Pantera. Little did i know she had mixed them up with Paramore. So i naturally beat her senseless.

[NSmeister]

The metal bands I listen to most:

- Pantera
- Megadeth
- Kreator

- Symphony X (Michael Romeo owns everyone, including your mom)
- Mastodon
- Maiden

- Primus (Frizzle Fry Era?)

- Too many Doom/Stoner bands to name... :P

[DocGonzo]

The metal bands I listen to most:

- Pantera
- Megadeth
- Kreator

- Symphony X (Michael Romeo owns everyone, including your mom)
- Mastodon
- Maiden

- Primus (Frizzle Fry Era?)

- Too many Doom/Stoner bands to name... :P

doom/stoner...heh...ever hear of Rope, Halfway to Gone or 1000 Knives of Fire?

Primus are great, but never Metal...Frizzle Fry and Seas of Cheese are their best, imo

[Vidav]

IN UO i really liked mining ORE and smelting it into Ingots. IN DF I think my favorite metal will be GOLD.

[Saturday Saint]

IN UO i really liked mining ORE and smelting it into Ingots. IN DF I think my favorite metal will be GOLD.

This is good. It means you'll hopefully have plenty of it on you when I kill you.

[Kusghuul]

Valorite or Verite Metal?

[Dazarthas]

My ex once said she liked Pantera. Little did i know she had mixed them up with Paramore. So i naturally beat her senseless.

I would've done the very same.

The metal bands I listen to most:

- Pantera
- Megadeth
- Kreator

- Symphony X (Michael Romeo owns everyone, including your mom)
- Mastodon
- Maiden

- Primus (Frizzle Fry Era?)

- Too many Doom/Stoner bands to name... :P

Funny, I never really thought of Primus as a metal band... metal or not, they kick ass anyway.

[Gaal]

Metallica

[DocGonzo]

Metallica

die, poser...

[Gaal]

die, poser...


Wait, what am I posing as again? Am I posing for a photoshoot of somekind?

Please enlighten me.

[DocGonzo]

Wait, what am I posing as again? Am I posing for a photoshoot of somekind?

Please enlighten me.

just messing with you ...metallica = poseurs, imo

[Gaal]

just messing with you ...metallica = poseurs, imo

now they are, but not back in the day, they fucking pounded assholes with thier metal.

[DocGonzo]

now they are, but not back in the day, they fucking pounded assholes with thier metal.

well, they were a decent thrash band until Cliff died and they fired Mustaine

but James has a horrible record for writing lyrics and Lars is a weaksauce drummer...and Apocalyptica plays thei rsongs better than they do

your mileage may vary

[Kusghuul]

Metallica

Only good albums are Master Of Puppets and ...And Justice For All. Few good tracks off Kill 'Em All, Garage inc. and Ride The Lightning.

[Gaal]

well, they were a decent thrash band until Cliff died and they fired Mustaine

but James has a horrible record for writing lyrics and Lars is a weaksauce drummer...and Apocalyptica plays thei rsongs better than they do

your mileage may vary

I thought metallica had awesome lyrics.

[Ankh]

Ride the lightning, Master of Puppets, ...and Justice for All and a few tracks off Kill 'em all = 3 hours of fucking metal.

[DocGonzo]

I thought metallica had awesome lyrics.

and you didn't know Rush were Canadians...

nuff said?

[NSmeister]

doom/stoner...heh...ever hear of Rope, Halfway to Gone or 1000 Knives of Fire?

Primus are great, but never Metal...Frizzle Fry and Seas of Cheese are their best, imo
Halfway to gone I have heard of, not the other two, I'll check 'em out ;)

As for Primus, their sound is so unique, I just don't know how to describe it :P But it definitely has underlying metal elements.

[Lioness]

My ex once said she liked Pantera. Little did i know she had mixed them up with Paramore.

Ooooh I love Paramore! Misery Business is one of my favorite songs. :)

But as for metal I say it's ew. I don't feel the need to listen to a crappy, cluttered sound while someone is yelling at me.

[Ankh]

Ooooh I love Paramore! Misery Business is one of my favorite songs. :)

But as for metal I say it's ew. I don't feel the need to listen to a crappy, cluttered sound while someone is yelling at me.

Trying to bash metal to hide the fact that you're a man, eh?

Not gonna work.

[Magistar]

this is metal!!!!! check their songs and enjoy!
http://www.myspace.com/gojira

[Poem]

Zinc is pretty cool. Copper is waaaaay overated.

[Lioness]

Trying to bash metal to hide the fact that you're a man, eh?

Not gonna work.

I know plenty of men that dislike metal...

Anyone who has taste dislikes metal.

[Ankh]

I know plenty of men that dislike metal...

Anyone who has taste dislikes metal.

So you are saying you're a man who dislikes metal?

[DocGonzo]

Halfway to gone I have heard of, not the other two, I'll check 'em out ;)

As for Primus, their sound is so unique, I just don't know how to describe it :P But it definitely has underlying metal elements.

all the same guitarist...

you won't find Rope... i was the bass player with him and his brother in that band...HtG came after, and now he and his bro are doing 1000 knives of fire

[Lioness]

So you are saying you're a man who dislikes metal?

What...?

Either you're a complete idiot because that is in no way what I said, or you are trying a second attempt at trolling after your first trolled attempt failed... Yet using the exact same bait...

[glavanac]

Im generaly in love with metal music,i listen to different metal styles when the year seasons change ( winter-black n death metal,while in summer i prefer folk metal and bands like pantera) or it depends on my mood (whenim pissed off i like Zyklon,Deicide, or Hatebreed,Biohazard etc )

[Gaal]

What...?

Either you're a complete idiot because that is in no way what I said, or you are trying a second attempt at trolling after your first trolled attempt failed... Yet using the exact same bait...

So you're a man....

[slugy]

i like iron

[FraBaktos]

I like metal. It's useful in the production of all sorts of things, from cars to airplanes to dinnerware to computers. Oh wait... you meant the musical genre. It's shit. Not all of it, but almost all of it.

[Rhys]

What...?

Either you're a complete idiot because that is in no way what I said, or you are trying a second attempt at trolling after your first trolled attempt failed... Yet using the exact same bait...

I'm getting a hint of homosexuality here.

[Rhys]

Oh wait... you meant the musical genre. It's shit. Not all of it, but almost all of it.

Seriously, why is metal shit?