CPUs and F**K AMD

[epicor]

I have decided I loathe AMD with a fiery passion. I was fixing my moms comp and had an extra CPU laying around so I decided to swap it out and give her an upgrade. But apparently AMD decided to glue the fucking heatsink to the processor. I was thinking, ah who cares its an old CPU ima chuck it anyway, so i just yank it out. Bending several pins in the process. Then I go to put the newer CPU in and what do you know: It doesnt fit. Apparently AMD decided it was a good idea to have 1 product with 4 different socket types! So now my mom is out a computer till i can fix it and I'm out $60 cause AMD are assholes and don't mark their shit properly.

Fuck you AMD. I never liked your shitty products anyway.

AMD Explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSALep8QZ84)
AMD Melts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1qr6lZ52-k)

Never buy AMD

/rant

[Hyster]

welcome to intel

[holychicken]

You were swapping processors and didn't check to make sure it was the right socket type.

Sorry, but all you are doing is admitting that you aren't very smart.

[-Havoc-]

You seriously didn't check to see if the CPU that you wanted to put in was of the same socket? Fucking hell dude, that's like....Intro to Computers bullshit. Do your mom a favor and never open that case again.

[NapalmEnema]

you have chosen well.

Intel trumps AMD no matter what some unwashed hippie would like you to believe.

Run cooler
More stable
Longer lasting

Intel FTMFW

[Killuminati]

Don't know why AMD is fanboyed by gamers.

[Hyster]

You seriously didn't check to see if the CPU that you wanted to put in was of the same socket? Fucking hell dude, that's like....Intro to Computers bullshit. Do your mom a favor and never open that case again.

i build computers for a living and i held back so he wouldnt feel stupid
thank you for ruining that.

Don't know why AMD is fanboyed by gamers.

FSB and a LONG time ago beat intel to the 64bit
other then that its a fucking deepfirer.

[Hyster]

x2 post plz remove

[Kin]

Yeah, all I read from the OP was...


I ruined a CPU and am going to blame AMD to make myself feel better.




--
Also, AMD may take the lead again with its new upcoming chips. We'll have to wait and see the actual specs though and prices.

[Hyster]

Yeah, all I read from the OP was...


I ruined a CPU and am going to blame AMD to make myself feel better.

5 minutes later.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8ogGz16aHzY&feature=related

[Kin]

^ rofl


Booooooooooooooooom!

[Jangang]

I have decided I loathe AMD with a fiery passion. I was fixing my moms comp and had an extra CPU laying around so I decided to swap it out and give her an upgrade. But apparently AMD decided to glue the fucking heatsink to the processor. I was thinking, ah who cares its an old CPU ima chuck it anyway, so i just yank it out. Bending several pins in the process. Then I go to put the newer CPU in and what do you know: It doesnt fit. Apparently AMD decided it was a good idea to have 1 product with 4 different socket types! So now my mom is out a computer till i can fix it and I'm out $60 cause AMD are assholes and don't mark their shit properly.

Fuck you AMD. I never liked your shitty products anyway.

AMD Explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSALep8QZ84)
AMD Melts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1qr6lZ52-k)

Never buy AMD

/rant

You sir are a frick'n MORON...

Let me rephrase what you said...

"I wanted to switch out my moms cpu. I didn't bother to make sure the sockets were teh same, because I assume that progress should never be made and sockets should stay the same FOREVER...

I'll ignore the fact that Intel does the same thing. (How many different socket types did the P4 have? More than 2 I know that much.)

Then, to compound my retardation I'll just RIP the fucking thing out of the socket and bend all the pins to shit so I can't use the cpu again. (Though why you had to do this is beyond me, even if the heatsink was stuck that has precisely jack shit to do w/ removing the cpu from the socket.)

Now that I've fucked up my moms cpu, and my cpu won't fit in the slot which I should have checked and verified prior to doing any of this, I'm going to blame anyone but myself for all the stupid things I did. Really I just don't want my mom mad at me, so I'm blaming AMD in hopes she'll pass the blame as well.

Everyone agree with me please so that I can show her this thread when she starts bitching at me again.

Hurray for de Retard,

Durpey Durr"

[epicor]

You guys saying i didnt check need to L2R. I did check there are 4 fucking sockets for the same processor

[Drunkenork]

Learn to check your hardware. It will save you embarrassment.

[NapalmEnema]

You sir are a frick'n MORON...

Let me rephrase what you said...

"I wanted to switch out my moms cpu. I didn't bother to make sure the sockets were teh same, because I assume that progress should never be made and sockets should stay the same FOREVER...

I'll ignore the fact that Intel does the same thing. (How many different socket types did the P4 have? More than 2 I know that much.)

Than, to compound my retardation I'll just RIP the fucking thing out of hte socket and bend all the pins to shit so I can't use the cpu again. (Though why you had to do this is beyond me, even if the heatsink was stuck that has precisely jack shit to do w/ removing the cpu from the socket.)

Now that I've fucked up my moms cpu, and my cpu won't fit in the slot which I should have checked and verified prior to doing any of this, I'm going to blame anyone but myself for all the stupid things I did. Really I just don't want my mom mad at me, so I'm blaming AMD in hopes she'll pass the blame as well.

Everyone agree with me please so that I can show her this thread when she starts bitching at me again.

Hurray for de Retard,

Durpey Durr"

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

[jonyak]

wow.. so you were being a moron and doing somehting you obviosuly have no clue how to do. You destroyed it because of your ignorance and it is AMD's fault?

how about you stop blaming others for your own stupidity... and don;t touch a pc again.

[Jangang]

You guys saying i didnt check need to L2R. I did check there are 4 fucking sockets for the same processor

Which is something you should have known BEFORE you tried to switch them. Not only that, but you should have know what socket her Motherboard is, and what socket your chip is... When they didn't match thats a big DING DING DING, Don't try to swap them.

[holychicken]

You guys saying i didnt check need to L2R. I did check there are 4 fucking sockets for the same processor
If you checked and failed to understand that it was NOT the right socket, that makes you even MORE stupid than not checking at all.

[Hyster]

You sir are a frick'n MORON...

Let me rephrase what you said...

"I wanted to switch out my moms cpu. I didn't bother to make sure the sockets were teh same, because I assume that progress should never be made and sockets should stay the same FOREVER...

I'll ignore the fact that Intel does the same thing. (How many different socket types did the P4 have? More than 2 I know that much.)

Then, to compound my retardation I'll just RIP the fucking thing out of the socket and bend all the pins to shit so I can't use the cpu again. (Though why you had to do this is beyond me, even if the heatsink was stuck that has precisely jack shit to do w/ removing the cpu from the socket.)

Now that I've fucked up my moms cpu, and my cpu won't fit in the slot which I should have checked and verified prior to doing any of this, I'm going to blame anyone but myself for all the stupid things I did. Really I just don't want my mom mad at me, so I'm blaming AMD in hopes she'll pass the blame as well.

Everyone agree with me please so that I can show her this thread when she starts bitching at me again.

Hurray for de Retard,

Durpey Durr"

GO TEAM RETARDS!!!!!
on a other note did you really try jamming a P4 into a AMD mobo thats like fucking jamming a APG into a PCI-E slot IT WILL NEVER FUCKING WORK

[NapalmEnema]

Which is something you should have known BEFORE you tried to switch them. Not only that, but you should have know what socket her Motherboard is, and what socket your chip is... When they didn't match thats a big DING DING DING, Don't try to swap them.

Jangang - you have control of the board with this second consecutive right answer. Your categories remain:

Useless Noobs

I are Komputohr Tek

Gigamegajiggawattz


I remind you there is still a Daily Double on the board, so good luck! :ohno:

[epicor]

Thanks for the support Forumfall. You are right, i r tarded. Couldnt possibly be anything to do with the data being misrepresented or the heatsink being glued to the processor and the mount covering the latch. Nah, i must be a newb.

Glad i had you guys to enlighten me. Thanks! :D

[jonyak]

In the immortal words of parliment funkadelic:

If it don't fit don't force it.

[Jangang]

The biggest thing, even ignoring all the other stupid, but easily doable mistakes is this.

Why did you just RIP it out of the socket? Even if the heatsink was "glued" (cheap thermal paste and years of use I'm sure) to the cpu, its still a simple matter of unhooking the heatsink from the motherboard (not the cpu), flipping the bar (depending on the board / socket type) and lifting the heatsink / cpu (even attached) from the motherboard.

After which when you noticed the sockets didn't match you could have easily put the old ones back on, and wouldn't have had any problems.

[jonyak]

Thanks for the support Forumfall. You are right, i r tarded. Couldnt possibly be anything to do with the data being misrepresented or the heatsink being glued to the processor and the mount covering the latch. Nah, i must be a newb.

Glad i had you guys to enlighten me. Thanks! :D

passing the buck again.

just admit your an idiot and you should have been more educated in what you were doing. stop blaming everyone but yourself.

[Jangang]

GO TEAM RETARDS!!!!!
on a other note did you really try jamming a P4 into a AMD mobo thats like fucking jamming a APG into a PCI-E slot IT WILL NEVER FUCKING WORK

I was just saying that Intel did the same thing in that they had several sockets for the P4 line. I haven't ever had a P4 personally, but I know they had several sockets. The OP is complaining about AMD as if the competition doesn't do the exact same thing.

Another note for the OP. This time purely to be helpful, The motherboard is probably bad now. Thats an unfortunate side effect if removing cpu's improperly. Maybe not, but don't assume its fine.

[holychicken]

Thanks for the support Forumfall. You are right, i r tarded. Couldnt possibly be anything to do with the data being misrepresented or the heatsink being glued to the processor and the mount covering the latch. Nah, i must be a newb.

Glad i had you guys to enlighten me. Thanks! :D
You came here and screamed "look at me! I r retarted! but it isn't my fault!"

This was followed by completely predictable results.

You then said "You guyz got it all wrong, I am MORE dumb than you think I am":

Followed again by predictable results.

This is forumfall. . .what did you expect to happen?

[Metal Wolf]

You fail at computers, please lick a 12v rail.

[epicor]

I would post pics and show docs, but it wouldnt help. You guys just want to flame. So go ahead and flame. If you want to do the search you will se where compaq posted a consumer notice about wrong labels on this product and see pics of how the heatsink mount blocks access to the cpu latch.

SR1610NX

[shnedit]

I brought the wrong type of ram few years ago. Wouldn't fit. Boy, did I have a nerd rage.

[Temet nosce]

Don't know why AMD is fanboyed by gamers.

Because Intell is much better at high end. It's a lot like comparing nVidia and ATI really. Not that surprising, since if I recall correctly ATI is owned by AMD anyways.

[BlackLemonade]

Thanks for the support Forumfall. You are right, i r tarded. Couldnt possibly be anything to do with the data being misrepresented or the heatsink being glued to the processor and the mount covering the latch. Nah, i must be a newb.

Glad i had you guys to enlighten me. Thanks! :D

This is what you just did! (http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/myspace-next-time-you-try-to-look-hot-flush-the-toilet-demotivational-poster.jpg)

[Hyster]

i build computers for a living and i held back so he wouldnt feel stupid
thank you for ruining that.


5 Minutes Later

GO TEAM RETARDS!!!!!
on a other note did you really try jamming a P4 into a AMD mobo thats like fucking jamming a APG into a PCI-E slot IT WILL NEVER FUCKING WORK

I was just saying that Intel did the same thing in that they had several sockets for the P4 line. I haven't ever had a P4 personally, but I know they had several sockets. The OP is complaining about AMD as if the competition doesn't do the exact same thing.

Another note for the OP. This time purely to be helpful, The motherboard is probably bad now. Thats an unfortunate side effect if removing cpu's improperly. Maybe not, but don't assume its fine.

was just getting it out of my system

[Shane]

Fuck you AMD. I never liked your shitty products anyway.

AMD Explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSALep8QZ84)
AMD Melts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1qr6lZ52-k)

Never buy AMD

/rant

You're an idiot, and ZOMB PROCESSORS DON'T WORK WELL WHEN THEIR HEATSINK IS REMOVED.

Who would have thunk it.

And the heatsink being "glued" to the processor is the fault of your COMPUTER MANUFACTURER, not AMD.

Which I bet was Compaq. GG idiot.

[SSguy]

You sir are a frick'n MORON...

Let me rephrase what you said...

"I wanted to switch out my moms cpu. I didn't bother to make sure the sockets were teh same, because I assume that progress should never be made and sockets should stay the same FOREVER...

I'll ignore the fact that Intel does the same thing. (How many different socket types did the P4 have? More than 2 I know that much.)

Then, to compound my retardation I'll just RIP the fucking thing out of the socket and bend all the pins to shit so I can't use the cpu again. (Though why you had to do this is beyond me, even if the heatsink was stuck that has precisely jack shit to do w/ removing the cpu from the socket.)

Now that I've fucked up my moms cpu, and my cpu won't fit in the slot which I should have checked and verified prior to doing any of this, I'm going to blame anyone but myself for all the stupid things I did. Really I just don't want my mom mad at me, so I'm blaming AMD in hopes she'll pass the blame as well.

Everyone agree with me please so that I can show her this thread when she starts bitching at me again.

Hurray for de Retard,

Durpey Durr"

QFT

Epicor, please don't breed.

[Duncandun]

I have decided I loathe AMD with a fiery passion. I was fixing my moms comp and had an extra CPU laying around so I decided to swap it out and give her an upgrade. But apparently AMD decided to glue the fucking heatsink to the processor. I was thinking, ah who cares its an old CPU ima chuck it anyway, so i just yank it out. Bending several pins in the process. Then I go to put the newer CPU in and what do you know: It doesnt fit. Apparently AMD decided it was a good idea to have 1 product with 4 different socket types! So now my mom is out a computer till i can fix it and I'm out $60 cause AMD are assholes and don't mark their shit properly.

Fuck you AMD. I never liked your shitty products anyway.

AMD Explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSALep8QZ84)
AMD Melts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1qr6lZ52-k)

Never buy AMD

/rant

No, sounds like your fucking stupid.


also, you can jam a PCI-E card into a AGP slot or vice versa, it will just be halfway hanging out.

[SSguy]

Thanks for the support Forumfall. You are right, i r tarded. Couldnt possibly be anything to do with the data being misrepresented or the heatsink being glued to the processor and the mount covering the latch. Nah, i must be a newb.

Glad i had you guys to enlighten me. Thanks! :D

Most syncs are glued to the processor....its the fucking cpu paste to help keep it cool.

Modern ones might be latched in, but I doubt it.

How the hell does data misrepresentation make you yank out a cpu like a fucking idiot?

And what data was misrepresented? Please go on and explain how the box with the new cpu in it says socket 7, and your old motherboard box says on it socket A.

[Viluin]

God damn you're an idiot. AMD doesn't "glue" their heatsinks to their processors. The thermal paste you used when you put it together probably doesn't come off easily. If it's prebuilt, blame the manufacturer. It's also your fault for buying a CPU that doesn't fit on your motherboard. What kind of retarded mistake is that?

AMD offers much more upgrade ability than any other manufacturer out there. Socket AM2 has been around for a pretty long time and it will be around for 3-4+ more years. If there's anything you can't complain about it's that AMD has too many sockets.

Don't know why AMD is fanboyed by gamers.


Because building an AMD PC is cheaper, and even a $50 AMD CPU will get you high framerates (100+) in ANY game when paired with a good GPU. Why wouldn't you build an AMD PC? Intel CPUs have been hyped all to hell, but gamers don't really benefit from them.

[Duncandun]

Yes, Modern sockets have a latch, some even have screws.

Also the thermal paste doesn't act like a glue, its not hard to seperate them at all.

First, get a razorblade(or something else equally thin and sharp, like a razorblade) and then just slowly insert it inbetween the heat sink and the CPU, as soon as its inbetween even just a little bit - it will make it easy to seperate.

Don't forget your alchahol! dab a clothe(linen is best!) in alchohol and then just take off the old paste, voila! SO HARD.

[Kahul_Bane]

Sorry had to come in on this one, OMG, and to publicly admit it... WOW...

intel started with the socet 370 and I beleave 398 (something like that) on the P4, so that is that is like 4 different socets on the P4 alone...

Amd has had the 775, 959, and Am2 (which is Am2+ now).

You need not get mad at them for enhancing the desighn, you need to know what you are doing... WOW!!!

And the post a couple up is right, even when it was SOP for heat sinks to be on the chip solid, it was whom ever bilt it that did it, not AMD or Intell... that shows even more nubness....

I really hope you learned something here, and it is not that amd or intel suck, it is you do.. and need to, well enugh has been said on that.

At this point changing your name might be a good idea. :ohno: :lmao:

[Shane]

God damn you're an idiot. AMD doesn't "glue" their heatsinks to their processors. The thermal paste you used when you put it together probably doesn't come off easily. If it's prebuilt, blame the manufacturer. It's also your fault for buying a CPU that doesn't fit on your motherboard. What kind of retarded mistake is that?

AMD offers much more upgrade ability than any other manufacturer out there. Socket AM2 has been around for a pretty long time and it will be around for 3-4+ more years. If there's anything you can't complain about it's that AMD has too many sockets.




Because building an AMD PC is cheaper, and even a $50 AMD CPU will get you high framerates (100+) in ANY game when paired with a good GPU. Why wouldn't you build an AMD PC? Intel CPUs have been hyped all to hell, but gamers don't really benefit from them.

Holy shit Viluin, for once we agree.

[Drunkenork]

This is what you just did! (http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/myspace-next-time-you-try-to-look-hot-flush-the-toilet-demotivational-poster.jpg)

LOL. Love that one. Pwnt.

[stalwart]

lulz. OP = dumb. even though i agree that intel chips are better than AMD of late, not for the reasons you list.

[Skyborn]

Ok the OP is retarded but so are all of the people that have repeated the insults of the first few flamers...let it go people.

But seriously I have always used AMD procs and they have always worked well for me...I have a 4200 or 4400 (can't remember exactly) dual core right now...runs like a champ.

[Killuminati]

Because building an AMD PC is cheaper, and even a $50 AMD CPU will get you high framerates (100+) in ANY game when paired with a good GPU. Why wouldn't you build an AMD PC? Intel CPUs have been hyped all to hell, but gamers don't really benefit from them.

Well, I am pretty ignorant on this. So I'll just accept that you are right.

[stalwart]

Ok the OP is retarded but so are all of the people that have repeated the insults of the first few flamers...let it go people.

But seriously I have always used AMD procs and they have always worked well for me...I have a 4200 or 4400 (can't remember exactly) dual core right now...runs like a champ.
my 5600+ runs fine too, just not as good as the intel chips.

[Metal Wolf]

let it go people.

ForumFall does not forgive!

[Skyborn]

ForumFall does not forgive!

Don't get me wrong, I am just suggesting we either A) Get creative and make fun of him for something else, or B) move on to someone else.

[Aragoni]

Intel - The way it's meant to be!

[Mulambo]

Don't know why AMD is fanboyed by gamers.

cause they keep prices down and, depending on when, often offer comparable performance for less money.

[Viluin]

Intel - The way it's meant to be!

Nvidia, the way it's meant to be played.

Funny thing: Company of Heroes has this slogan, but it does not support SLI and it runs much better on AMD cards. A HD3850 will perform on par with an 8800GT in that game.

Lol, Nvidia. Never take that slogan seriously. And I don't know why I just said all of this, so fuck you if you're wondering.

[kordoyn]

cause they keep prices down and always lag behind intel in performance.

fix't

[Viluin]

fix't

And you'll never ever notice this lack of performance in any video game.

[Aragoni]

Nvidia, the way it's meant to be played.

Funny thing: Company of Heroes has this slogan, but it does not support SLI and it runs much better on AMD cards. A HD3850 will perform on par with an 8800GT in that game.

Lol, Nvidia. Never take that slogan seriously. And I don't know why I just said all of this, so fuck you if you're wondering.

Nvidia is OK. I've had Nvidia since my first computer (Or.. uh.. Maybe it was a Voodoo or something like that but anyway!) and they've worked fine. Now however AMD is sweet. 4870 ftw.

[jonyak]

And you'll never ever notice this lack of performance in any video game.

I notice it in your moms bed.

[Viluin]

Nvidia is OK. I've had Nvidia since my first computer (Or.. uh.. Maybe it was a Voodoo or something like that but anyway!) and they've worked fine. Now however AMD is sweet. 4870 ftw.

Yeah, it's just funny that a game sponsored by Nvidia runs like crap on their cards. That's why I get pissed off when people buy Nvidia cards based on the fact that their slogan can be found on nearly every game. "The way it's meant to be played" my ass.

[Hyster]

Because building an AMD PC is cheaper, and even a $50 AMD CPU will get you high framerates (100+) in ANY game when paired with a good GPU. Why wouldn't you build an AMD PC? Intel CPUs have been hyped all to hell, but gamers don't really benefit from them.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html

[Viluin]

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html

Since when is PassMark CPU a game? Rofl.

Go look up some gaming benchmarks and tell me there's a noticeable difference between AMD and Intel CPUs.

I know most of you cringe at the thought of buying "inferior" computer parts, but if you open your eyes you'll see that high-end CPUs are completely unnecessary if you're just playing games. It's a waste of money.

[biggunsar]

I have decided I loathe AMD with a fiery passion. I was fixing my moms comp and had an extra CPU laying around so I decided to swap it out and give her an upgrade. But apparently AMD decided to glue the fucking heatsink to the processor. I was thinking, ah who cares its an old CPU ima chuck it anyway, so i just yank it out. Bending several pins in the process. Then I go to put the newer CPU in and what do you know: It doesnt fit. Apparently AMD decided it was a good idea to have 1 product with 4 different socket types! So now my mom is out a computer till i can fix it and I'm out $60 cause AMD are assholes and don't mark their shit properly.

Fuck you AMD. I never liked your shitty products anyway.

AMD Explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSALep8QZ84)
AMD Melts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1qr6lZ52-k)

Never buy AMD

/rant


LOL..that is why you do RESEARCH if you dont' know what the hell your doing.

LOL...sorry to hear your bad luck. Here is a hint for next time GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND. Use it.

[Hyster]

Since when is PassMark CPU a game? Rofl.

Go look up some gaming benchmarks and tell me there's a noticeable difference between AMD and Intel CPUs.

I know most of you cringe at the thought of buying "inferior" computer parts, but if you open your eyes you'll see that high-end CPUs are completely unnecessary if you're just playing games. It's a waste of money.


"Intel CPUs have been hyped all to hell, "
that link was the that

Gaming Link's is (UT3)
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/Unreal-Tournament-3-1680x1050,819.html
The Top 17 CPU's are intels even a Intel Core 2 Duo E8190 beat up
AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black.

Next is World in Conflict
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/World-in-Conflict-1680x1050,820.html
and Once again a Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 beats up AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black.
plus i find it funny how AMD sells busted x4 cores as x3 cores

[Viluin]

"Intel CPUs have been hyped all to hell, "
that link was the that

gaming Link is
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/Unreal-Tournament-3-1680x1050,819.html
The Top 17 CPU's are intels even a Intel Core 2 Duo E8190 beat up
AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black

plus i find it funny how AMD sells busted x4 cores as x3 cores

Thanks for proving my point. 80 FPS.. 150 FPS.. You won't see the difference. At all. Your monitor probably doesn't even support 80Hz so even then you lose some frames. Not to mention the fact that your eyes really can't see more than 60 FPS. And selling busted quad cores as triple cores is a great strategy. That way they don't have to throw them away. Intel can't do this, because their quad-cores aren't "real". They just slap two dual-core processors on each other, instead of four native cores.

EDIT:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2007/Gaming-Unreal-Tournament-2004,344.html

Note how even the crappiest, energy-efficient AMD dual-core CPU plays this game just fine. Even the single-core 3000+ at a measily 1.8 Ghz can squeeze out 50FPS.

[Dolmar]

I have decided I loathe AMD with a fiery passion. I was fixing my moms comp and had an extra CPU laying around so I decided to swap it out and give her an upgrade. But apparently AMD decided to glue the fucking heatsink to the processor. I was thinking, ah who cares its an old CPU ima chuck it anyway, so i just yank it out. Bending several pins in the process. Then I go to put the newer CPU in and what do you know: It doesnt fit. Apparently AMD decided it was a good idea to have 1 product with 4 different socket types! So now my mom is out a computer till i can fix it and I'm out $60 cause AMD are assholes and don't mark their shit properly.

Fuck you AMD. I never liked your shitty products anyway.

AMD Explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSALep8QZ84)
AMD Melts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1qr6lZ52-k)

Never buy AMD

/rant

Its not glue bud its quicksilver that's used to send the heat from the processor to the heatsink at a better rate.Sometimes the heat makes it hard and seem like glue but if u had the handle down there was no need too rip the cpu out .

[Hyster]

Thanks for proving my point. 80 FPS.. 150 FPS.. You won't see the difference. At all. Your monitor probably doesn't even support 80Hz so even then you lose some frames. Not to mention the fact that your eyes really can't see more than 60 FPS. And selling busted quad cores as triple cores is a great strategy. That way they don't have to throw them away. Intel can't do this, because their quad-cores aren't "real". They just slap two dual-core processors on each other, instead of four native cores.

EDIT:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2007/Gaming-Unreal-Tournament-2004,344.html

Note how even the crappiest, energy-efficient AMD dual-core CPU plays this game just fine. Even the single-core 3000+ at a measily 1.8 Ghz can squeeze out 50FPS.

God damn you're an idiot. Because building an AMD PC is cheaper, and even a $50 AMD CPU will get you high framerates (100+) in ANY game when paired with a good GPU. Why wouldn't you build an AMD PC? Intel CPUs have been hyped all to hell, but gamers don't really benefit from them.

Wrong Highist End AMD CPU for gaming can only pump out 80 as you said below.

Thanks for proving my point. 80 FPS.. 150 FPS.. You won't see the difference. At all. Your monitor probably doesn't even support 80Hz so even then you lose some frames. Not to mention the fact that your eyes really can't see more than 60 FPS. And selling busted quad cores as triple cores is a great strategy. That way they don't have to throw them away. Intel can't do this, because their quad-cores aren't "real". They just slap two dual-core processors on each other, instead of four native cores.

No you proved me right they are no over hyped they can do allmost 200% more then AMD cpu's can do when it comes to gaming. True Intel Slaps 2 duel cores to make a quad core but at least i know all the cores work unlike AMD x3. You do have a point at least the dont toss the bad cores away, that would be wasiting 3/4 of a CPU sell the bad dies and makes some cash. When you Buy a AMD its to play Games Now, when you buy a Intel its to play them 18 months from now.

[Viluin]

Wrong Highist End AMD CPU for gaming can only pump out 80 as you said below.

It depends on the game you effing moron. Also, that was a bot match. An online match would be run at considerably higher framerates.


No you proved me right they are no over hyped they can do allmost 200% more then AMD cpu's can do when it comes to gaming. True Intel Slaps 2 duel cores to make a quad core but at least i know all the cores work unlike AMD x3. You do have a point at least the dont toss the bad cores away, that would be wasiting 3/4 of a CPU sell the abd dies and makes some cash.

All three cores work on AMD X3 processors. You pay for 3 cores, you get 3 cores. What's the problem here?

And stop beating around the bush. 80 FPS, 150 FPS etc you can't tell the damn difference. Your gaming experience is exactly the same, the only difference is in your wallet. Let's not forget that most games are bottlenecked by GPUs anyway so there truly is no difference between CPUs when that happens.

My AMD CPU is a model from 2005 or something. It still runs everything at high framerates. When you buy AMD you can game for longer than you'll probably keep the CPU.

[Jangang]

If you've got money to blow, and no other use for it go with intel. Their chips are a little better, but cost a lot more.

AMD chips are still very good though, and as Viluin said, you'll never notice the difference in any games.

I'm running a X2 5000+, w/ a ATI 3870 and I've been VERY happy w/ both. The bottleneck on my system is an older HDD, and a cheap motherboard.

[Hyster]

It depends on the game you effing moron. Also, that was a bot match. An online match would be run at considerably higher framerates.




All three cores work on AMD X3 processors. You pay for 3 cores, you get 3 cores. What's the problem here?

And stop beating around the bush. 80 FPS, 150 FPS etc you can't tell the damn difference. Your gaming experience is exactly the same, the only difference is in your wallet. Let's not forget that most games are bottlenecked by GPUs anyway so there truly is no difference between CPUs when that happens.

SLI with a Nvidia 280GTX or a ATM 4870x2 and your fine. if your going to bring GPU's into this ill drag in RAM / Mobo. as i said before When you Buy a AMD its to play Games Now, when you buy a Intel its to play new games 18 months from now.

[Viluin]

SLI with a Nvidia 280GTX or a ATM 4870x2 and your fine. if your going to bring GPU's into this ill drag in RAM / Mobo. as i said before When you Buy a AMD its to play Games Now, when you buy a Intel its to play new games 18 months from now.

Please translate that to something that makes sense. Because I have no idea why you just brought that up, it doesn't support your argument nor does it debunk mine.

Current AMD processors will be able to play new games for many years to come. CPU requirements of games have barely risen at all in the past 3 years, I doubt that will change.

[Jangang]

SLI with a Nvidia 280GTX or a ATM 4870x2 and your fine. if your going to bring GPU's into this ill drag in RAM / Mobo. as i said before When you Buy a AMD its to play Games Now, when you buy a Intel its to play new games 18 months from now.

Though I disagree w/ the the sentiment that a new model AMD chip, and Motherboard won't play games just fine in 18 months. I'd just like to point out that:

You can buy an AMD Motherboard and CPU now, then buy a new Motherboard and CPU in 18 months and still be at, or below the cost of just buying 1 Intel Motherboard, and CPU today.

The new AMD you buy in 18 months will be better then the current Intel you could buy now BY FAR. While the current AMD you buy today would have only a minor performance decrease below the Intel.

Furthermore as said above many times, the performance decrease won't even be noticeable in games. If you are doing lots of video editing, or something like that it might be wise to go Intel, but than again it might be wise to go w/ a Mac for something like that.

[Lictor]

I have decided I loathe AMD with a fiery passion. I was fixing my moms comp and had an extra CPU laying around so I decided to swap it out and give her an upgrade. But apparently AMD decided to glue the fucking heatsink to the processor. I was thinking, ah who cares its an old CPU ima chuck it anyway, so i just yank it out. Bending several pins in the process. Then I go to put the newer CPU in and what do you know: It doesnt fit. Apparently AMD decided it was a good idea to have 1 product with 4 different socket types! So now my mom is out a computer till i can fix it and I'm out $60 cause AMD are assholes and don't mark their shit properly.

Fuck you AMD. I never liked your shitty products anyway.

AMD Explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSALep8QZ84)
AMD Melts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1qr6lZ52-k)

Never buy AMD

/rant

That's BS, you know that? Don't you?

[Indah]

Sorry had to come in on this one, OMG, and to publicly admit it... WOW...

intel started with the socet 370 and I beleave 398 (something like that) on the P4, so that is that is like 4 different socets on the P4 alone...

Amd has had the 775, 959, and Am2 (which is Am2+ now).

You need not get mad at them for enhancing the desighn, you need to know what you are doing... WOW!!!

And the post a couple up is right, even when it was SOP for heat sinks to be on the chip solid, it was whom ever bilt it that did it, not AMD or Intell... that shows even more nubness....

I really hope you learned something here, and it is not that amd or intel suck, it is you do.. and need to, well enugh has been said on that.

At this point changing your name might be a good idea. :ohno: :lmao:

numbers are a bit off, socket 423, 478 and 775 for intel
slot a, socket 754, 939, am2, am2+ and am3 soon

[Indah]

SLI with a Nvidia 280GTX or a ATM 4870x2 and your fine. if your going to bring GPU's into this ill drag in RAM / Mobo. as i said before When you Buy a AMD its to play Games Now, when you buy a Intel its to play new games 18 months from now.

you only buy intel/nvidia if you have to flex your epeen on a 3d marks score. you buy amd ati for cheaper price but quality performance. In 2 months either way, the average user will have thier pc clogged full of virii and spyware and 58 processes on boot so it doesnt matter either way.

If you build a new machine every 1.5- 2 years, amd will do it for you. If you are building a machine to show off how good you are at wasting money, buy intel

[TheTrooper]

I'm a first year networking student and even I am not this stupid. The fact that you're trying to blame it on AMD is simply hilarious..

[biggunsar]

I'm a first year networking student and even I am not this stupid. The fact that you're trying to blame it on AMD is simply hilarious..

networking has nothing to do with this character's problems. Hardware is the skillset here.

But sounds like the user has none

[Hyster]

Though I disagree w/ the the sentiment that a new model AMD chip, and Motherboard won't play games just fine in 18 months. I'd just like to point out that:

You can buy an AMD Motherboard and CPU now, then buy a new Motherboard and CPU in 18 months and still be at, or below the cost of just buying 1 Intel Motherboard, and CPU today.

The new AMD you buy in 18 months will be better then the current Intel you could buy now BY FAR. While the current AMD you buy today would have only a minor performance decrease below the Intel.

Furthermore as said above many times, the performance decrease won't even be noticeable in games. If you are doing lots of video editing, or something like that it might be wise to go Intel, but than again it might be wise to go w/ a Mac for something like that.

very true but your banking on next gen stuff, likewise if you bought 2 AMD one now one 18 months from now the 18 month later would be more powerfull then todays intels but still gets shafted by intel from 18 months later. (but if intel guy waits 18 months and then buys he wins)

[Mazer]

Too long of a thread to read, but the OP is an artard.

[Hyster]

Too long of a thread to read, but the OP is an artard.

it turned into a AMD Vs Intel Flame

[Duncandun]

Also, Viliun is kind of dumb.

I don't know if he just refuses to achnoledge that Intel has a death grip on the CPU market(and has for a while now, I used to be an AMD fanboy as well) or what.

but it's true, Intel does have a death grip on the market and will for the forseeable future(considering their new procs are supposedly coming out in november, awesome!).

[Viluin]

Though I disagree w/ the the sentiment that a new model AMD chip, and Motherboard won't play games just fine in 18 months. I'd just like to point out that:

You can buy an AMD Motherboard and CPU now, then buy a new Motherboard and CPU in 18 months and still be at, or below the cost of just buying 1 Intel Motherboard, and CPU today.

The new AMD you buy in 18 months will be better then the current Intel you could buy now BY FAR. While the current AMD you buy today would have only a minor performance decrease below the Intel.

Furthermore as said above many times, the performance decrease won't even be noticeable in games. If you are doing lots of video editing, or something like that it might be wise to go Intel, but than again it might be wise to go w/ a Mac for something like that.

You won't even really need a new motherboard, socket AM2+ will be compatible with AM3 processors, which means the motherboard will be good for many years to come.

[Damwa]

Forumfall is like a mob beating on a cripple - and when he is completely reduced to pulp, the frenzied mob turns on itself; randomly chosen individuals being torn apart left and right.

[Kin]

Thanks for the support Forumfall. You are right, i r tarded. Couldnt possibly be anything to do with the data being misrepresented or the heatsink being glued to the processor and the mount covering the latch. Nah, i must be a newb.

Glad i had you guys to enlighten me. Thanks! :D



PS: They don't use glue to attach heat sinks to CPUs either... Its thermal paste. :D


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Damn it, thats what I get for biting on a post instead of reading through the entire page of replies.... /sigh

[Viluin]

Also, Viliun is kind of dumb.

I don't know if he just refuses to achnoledge that Intel has a death grip on the CPU market(and has for a while now, I used to be an AMD fanboy as well) or what.

but it's true, Intel does have a death grip on the market and will for the forseeable future(considering their new procs are supposedly coming out in november, awesome!).

Can't you people fucking read? AMD is cheaper and offers the same gaming experience. Sure, Intel is better, but who gives a fuck if you're a gamer? If you're a video editor or whatever, that's when Intel is useful.

[Jezrith]

I have decided I loathe AMD with a fiery passion. I was fixing my moms comp and had an extra CPU laying around so I decided to swap it out and give her an upgrade. But apparently AMD decided to glue the fucking heatsink to the processor. I was thinking, ah who cares its an old CPU ima chuck it anyway, so i just yank it out. Bending several pins in the process. Then I go to put the newer CPU in and what do you know: It doesnt fit. Apparently AMD decided it was a good idea to have 1 product with 4 different socket types! So now my mom is out a computer till i can fix it and I'm out $60 cause AMD are assholes and don't mark their shit properly.

Fuck you AMD. I never liked your shitty products anyway.

AMD Explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSALep8QZ84)
AMD Melts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1qr6lZ52-k)

Never buy AMD

/rant


Please stay away from the computer hardware...

[Hyster]

Please stay away from the computer hardware...

signed

[Kin]

Also, Viliun is kind of dumb.

I don't know if he just refuses to achnoledge that Intel has a death grip on the CPU market(and has for a while now, I used to be an AMD fanboy as well) or what.

but it's true, Intel does have a death grip on the market and will for the forseeable future(considering their new procs are supposedly coming out in november, awesome!).


If Intel had a "Deathgrip" on the market... AMD would be going out of business.


Does Intel have a greater share of the market? Sure... But that doesn't mean dick imo.



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Oh, and keep your eyes open for AMDs new Shanghai, It'll be their first 45 nm Opteron chip.

[Hyster]

If Intel had a "Deathgrip" on the market... AMD would be going out of business.


Does Intel have a greater share of the market? Sure... But that doesn't mean dick imo.



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Oh, and keep your eyes open for AMDs new Shanghai, It'll be their first 45 nm Opteron chip.

AMD Owns ATI too.

[Kin]

AMD Owns ATI too.



Yep, they aren't afraid to compete across multiple interfaces... :D

[Weeking]

AMD is the best. You're just careless.

[DrGreenThumb]

Forumfall is like a mob beating on a cripple - and when he is completely reduced to pulp, the frenzied mob turns on itself; randomly chosen individuals being torn apart left and right.

damn that made me chuckle.

anyhows,amd use to be the king of gaming,now the table is turned,though it can always change,ill use whatever gives me the best bang for buck.be it amd/intel,nvidea or ati.

[Wreatch]

I have decided I loathe AMD with a fiery passion. I was fixing my moms comp and had an extra CPU laying around so I decided to swap it out and give her an upgrade. But apparently AMD decided to glue the fucking heatsink to the processor. I was thinking, ah who cares its an old CPU ima chuck it anyway, so i just yank it out. Bending several pins in the process. Then I go to put the newer CPU in and what do you know: It doesnt fit. Apparently AMD decided it was a good idea to have 1 product with 4 different socket types! So now my mom is out a computer till i can fix it and I'm out $60 cause AMD are assholes and don't mark their shit properly.

Fuck you AMD. I never liked your shitty products anyway.

AMD Explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSALep8QZ84)
AMD Melts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1qr6lZ52-k)

Never buy AMD

/rant

Shoulda done some research first, see what your getting in to. Always do that before opening the case, or learn the hard way.

[Jangang]

very true but your banking on next gen stuff, likewise if you bought 2 AMD one now one 18 months from now the 18 month later would be more powerfull then todays intels but still gets shafted by intel from 18 months later. (but if intel guy waits 18 months and then buys he wins)

I'm not sure what you are saying here exactly... But it doesn't matter what happens w/ the hardware, both are good companies, AMD actually beat intel to the punch on both 64 bit computing, and multi core chips.

AMD is always cheaper, sometimes the performances is just under that of intel's equivalant chip, sometimes its just over. (See initial Intel duel cores o' crappiness.)

I'm saying if you buy AMD today, and buy AMD again in 18 months you'll:

A, Still be at or below the cost of just going Intel today. (For both the AMD's together)

B, The new AMD in 18 months will absolutley without a doubt be better then the Intel you get today. Which kind of nullifies the point about "buying intel to game in 18 months"

Though again I have to say that you'd be just fine w/ just the initial AMD even 18 months from now.

Also, Viliun is kind of dumb.

I don't know if he just refuses to achnoledge that Intel has a death grip on the CPU market(and has for a while now, I used to be an AMD fanboy as well) or what.

but it's true, Intel does have a death grip on the market and will for the forseeable future(considering their new procs are supposedly coming out in november, awesome!).

I used to be a AMD fan, then I switched to intel when the C2D line first came out, but now I've gone back to AMD. I can honestly say I regret buying the hype about Intel being "so much better with this new line"...

You won't even really need a new motherboard, socket AM2+ will be compatible with AM3 processors, which means the motherboard will be good for many years to come.

Nice. :) I was just saying that to counter the 18 month argument someone posted, though I don't agree w/ it to begin with hehe.

[Dhig]

Oh sweet, a intel vs AMD thread.
Buy what gets you the most for your money imo.
Fanboys for any of the lables are retards.

Both uses 0.13 micro technology.
Intel started before AMD did with that tech and have pretty much maxed out.
As Intel will not move on to 0.9 micro before late next year AMD will have plenty of time to max out the 0.13 micro.
The only part that Intel is gonna improve is the FSB.

So this means that Intel will lose alot of money if they dont start with the 0.9 micro earlier then expected.

People will hardly buy a CPU that only up their FSB.
That means AMD probably will sell more CPU's and Intel will lose alot of money.

So if you want to buy a CPU that wont change until the next 0.9 tech comes, go buy a Intel.
If you want to buy it cheaper and upgrade later, buy a AMD.

[GRCPan]

Thermal paste is not glue.
Also you fail with computers :/.

[Hyster]

Oh sweet, a intel vs AMD thread.
Buy what gets you the most for your money imo.
Fanboys for any of the lables are retards.

Both uses 0.13 micro technology.
Intel started before AMD did with that tech and have pretty much maxed out.
As Intel will not move on to 0.9 micro before late next year AMD will have plenty of time to max out the 0.13 micro.
The only part that Intel is gonna improve is the FSB.

So this means that Intel will lose alot of money if they dont start with the 0.9 micro earlier then expected.

People will hardly buy a CPU that only up their FSB.
That means AMD probably will sell more CPU's and Intel will lose alot of money.

So if you want to buy a CPU that wont change until the next 0.9 tech comes, go buy a Intel.
If you want to buy it cheaper and upgrade later, buy a AMD.

you sir better pray to your god your a troll cuze you dont know SHIT about die size intel is down to 45nm and AMD is still at 65nm

Which kind of nullifies the point about "buying intel to game in 18 months"

no not really i wasnt talking about This Gen intel Vs Next Gen AMD
i was talking about todays CPU's not the ones over the hill.

[Voodoo Hoodoo]

If Intel had a "Deathgrip" on the market... AMD would be going out of business.


Does Intel have a greater share of the market? Sure... But that doesn't mean dick imo.



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Oh, and keep your eyes open for AMDs new Shanghai, It'll be their first 45 nm Opteron chip.

Intel does have a deathgrip. Just look at the new i7 (release 17th November 2008) and how AMD have had to spin off their fabrication company so they don't have the huge crippling debt problem.

That's right, AMD sold 45% of their fab technology to an UAE (I think) company. This means AMD gets 700 million to cut back some debt.

A company that isn't facing insolvency doesn't spin off their fab process.

:)

[Voodoo Hoodoo]

Oh sweet, a intel vs AMD thread.
Buy what gets you the most for your money imo.
Fanboys for any of the lables are retards.

Both uses 0.13 micro technology.
Intel started before AMD did with that tech and have pretty much maxed out.
As Intel will not move on to 0.9 micro before late next year AMD will have plenty of time to max out the 0.13 micro.
The only part that Intel is gonna improve is the FSB.

So this means that Intel will lose alot of money if they dont start with the 0.9 micro earlier then expected.

People will hardly buy a CPU that only up their FSB.
That means AMD probably will sell more CPU's and Intel will lose alot of money.

So if you want to buy a CPU that wont change until the next 0.9 tech comes, go buy a Intel.
If you want to buy it cheaper and upgrade later, buy a AMD.

Umm ,you're forgetting the IMC on chip as well. And the fact that the new Nehalem processor uses a bootstrap not a FSB.

Failed on both accounts sorry.

[Duncandun]

I used to be a AMD fan, then I switched to intel when the C2D line first came out, but now I've gone back to AMD. I can honestly say I regret buying the hype about Intel being "so much better with this new line"...


I don't know how you can say they aren't, I've yet to see a AMD chip outperforming an Intel chip of a similar price.

[Hyster]

Can't you people fucking read? AMD is cheaper and offers the same gaming experience. Sure, Intel is better, but who gives a fuck if you're a gamer? If you're a video editor or whatever, that's when Intel is useful.

wow i feel like being a real asshole today Duncandun thank you for bringing that up, (Intel E7200 2.53ghz 2 cores $119) Vs (AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400 3.2ghz 2 cores $119 newegg) and just to tea bag you ill toss in a nice link http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/phenom-x3-8750_6.html (Athlon 64 x2 and Phenom x3 8750 gets owned by E7200 and raped by a E6750. Face it your a fan boy, every benchmarker on earth says your wrong just stop. Intel owns AMD (atm). We have better CPU's even at your price range.
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As for OP gradz on voiding your warrenty, and its not glue its most likey low grade thermal Compound / Grease used to transfer the heat from the CPU to the heatsink so the CPU can run cooler. (and faster if your a OC and like pushing your computer around).

[Bratus]

Yes AMD is behind they lost there edge, I did read something saying they will ressurect there FX line again thought so there might be something that comes out of that...

Also when they realease the next phenom they will be up to par with DDR3 ram support...

I really dont know if the DDR3 ram is worth it though, seems expensive still... I'll be buyying a computer within the next few months... Depends on the prices at the time. I did find a really good priced site though... AICmicro.com anyone seen that one yet?

[Duncandun]

Yes AMD is behind they lost there edge, I did read something saying they will ressurect there FX line again thought so there might be something that comes out of that...

Also when they realease the next phenom they will be up to par with DDR3 ram support...

I really dont know if the DDR3 ram is worth it though, seems expensive still... I'll be buyying a computer within the next few months... Depends on the prices at the time. I did find a really good priced site though... AICmicro.com anyone seen that one yet?

Intel's new procs that will be utilizing ddr3 as well, coming in November supposedly.