Media and its affect on war

[Schmaus]

i start this poll as a reaction to a thread from Napalmename(fan of napalmbombing?)


pretty simple ,

some people believe media is the cause that USA is loosing war in Iraq and afghanistan and why USA failed in Vietnam

what do you think ?

Do you think that war failed becasue of negative publicty by media?

[cocer]

no they were just pawned by the arabs

[Skyborn]

I dont know, the dynamics of war have changed...media coverage plays a role but its not the only thing.

[klokateer #7829]

Your poll is extremely one sided.

Where is your proof that we are "loosing" (losing) the war?

[tallefred]

I don't like you, and I don't like a single one of your threads so far.

[Skyborn]

Somone wiht Brannoc's newbie trolls quote in their sig should post here...they don't even have to put anything in the message box.

[Barbarossa]

i start this poll as a reaction to a thread from Napalmename(fan of napalmbombing?)

The name is FlamingAssDouche.

Don't forget it.

[Lethn]

I seriously think some of you lot need to take a look at World History and warfare tactics before you even think about making topics like these in the future.

[BladeSLicer]

We're losing? Last reports I saw suggested that violence has dropped considerably in Iraq. So much so, in fact, that Afganistan is now the more violent country, whereas it had been completely outmatched in years previous.

If anything, I'd say the one thing media is doing is convincing everyone that we're losing and have no hope of winning.

[Hecubis]

I think the media played a huge role in allowing the US government to go to war against Iraq in the first place. They really dropped the ball during the run up to the war and didn't do their job of questioning the necessity of the whole thing, or the intelligence on the WMD threat. They were beating the War Drums for the Bush Administration right up until it started to become obvious that the WMD threat had been a hoax.

I think they've been trying to cover their asses ever since by making a half-assed effort to stay objective and maintain some semblance of journalistic integrity. Despite all this, the media has given the government a hell of a lot more slack than it did during the Vietnam war.

From the outside looking in, I find all this talk of the "Liberal Media" quite ridiculous. The US Media serves the same Corporate masters that the US government does.

The fault for all the problems that the US has faced during the occupation of Iraq can be placed squarely at the feet of the Bush Administration, and the idiotic decisions they made.

[DocGonzo]

I think the media played a huge role in allowing the US government to go to war against Iraq in the first place. They really dropped the ball during the run up to the war and didn't do their job of questioning the necessity of the whole thing, or the intelligence on the WMD threat. They were beating the War Drums for the Bush Administration right up until it started to become obvious that the WMD threat had been a hoax.

I think they've been trying to cover their asses ever since by making a half-assed effort to stay objective and maintain some semblance of journalistic integrity. Despite all this, the media has given the government a hell of a lot more slack than it did during the Vietnam war.

From the outside looking in, I find all this talk of the "Liberal Media" quite ridiculous. The US Media serves the same Corporate masters that the US government does.

The fault for all the problems that the US has faced during the occupation of Iraq can be placed squarely at the feet of the Bush Administration, and the idiotic decisions they made.

that pretty much sums it up

[Jangang]

Well I can't vote because you made the poll biased as hell.

Yes, the media is hurting our ability to wage war. But we aren't "losing" jack shit. That is half of the problem w/ the media, they are a bunch of negative bitches and they love it when everyone thinks we are losing.

Not to say we've done everything right, or we couldn't have done anything differently, we could have done better at a lot of things. But the word lose has a definition, and that definition doesn't fit with the reality of the situation, despite what the media would love for you to believe.

[DocGonzo]

Well I can't vote because you made the poll biased as hell.

Yes, the media is hurting our ability to wage war. But we aren't "losing" jack shit. That is half of the problem w/ the media, they are a bunch of negative bitches and they love it when everyone thinks we are losing.

as opposed to all the fucking propaganda that lies about what goes on, presents rosy scenarios that aren't vetted and are mercifully free form the ravages of fact?

fucking please spare me...

[BladeSLicer]

Well I can't vote because you made the poll biased as hell.

Yes, the media is hurting our ability to wage war. But we aren't "losing" jack shit. That is half of the problem w/ the media, they are a bunch of negative bitches and they love it when everyone thinks we are losing.

The problem with the media is that people are far more willing to watch bad news than good. Therefore, it's virtually always a ten to one bad-good news ratio, and people will always have a bad outlook on the various issues at hand.

They're just giving the people what they want. Unfortunate but true.

[Killuminati]

Nah, the media is a just a check on the free for all that goes on in War. It doesn't affect anything besides peoples opinions at home. Yah, maybe, it demoralizes troops who were in Vietnam because they heard how people disapproved of the war. Except, this doesn't mean shit since the vietnamese weren't gonna give up until they were wiped out. Good for them and cry more if you are a jingoistic fool.

[Duncandun]

dumbest thread ever

[Temet nosce]

I think the media played a huge role in allowing the US government to go to war against Iraq in the first place. They really dropped the ball during the run up to the war and didn't do their job of questioning the necessity of the whole thing, or the intelligence on the WMD threat. They were beating the War Drums for the Bush Administration right up until it started to become obvious that the WMD threat had been a hoax.

I think they've been trying to cover their asses ever since by making a half-assed effort to stay objective and maintain some semblance of journalistic integrity. Despite all this, the media has given the government a hell of a lot more slack than it did during the Vietnam war.

From the outside looking in, I find all this talk of the "Liberal Media" quite ridiculous. The US Media serves the same Corporate masters that the US government does.

The fault for all the problems that the US has faced during the occupation of Iraq can be placed squarely at the feet of the Bush Administration, and the idiotic decisions they made.

Agreed.

Also, Op? Fuckoff. I actually don't mind the topic, but reading your post made my hangover worse.

[NapalmEnema]

I think you fail at the following:

- Balanced poll making.
- Logical thought
- Reading comprehension
- Rational arguments
- Intelligence above that of a chimpanzee

I find the following hilarious:

- That you got soo butt hurt getting ignored in my thread you had to make one up to try and bag on me. (troll more)
- That you are completely unaware how ignorant you are.


There is more but I think this covers the basics.

[Jangang]

My point was only that we aren't exactly losing any wars. The news is biased, I agree because people enjoy bad news more than good news.

Regardless though, we aren't losing. Thats all I was really saying.

Yes, The Bush administration is retarded and did most everything beyond the first 48 hours, and prior to the surge WRONG... But we aren't losing, and have never been losing the war.

[Bissen]

So what would the alternative be? Wars started and fought without media coverage?

People tend to watch bad news more I agree. But could it be because bad news concerning the deaths of thousands and how progress is pursued in wars, needs serious attention?

Sure the media is mostly some biased douchebags sheeps that wanna controlz ours brain. But wtf would the alternative be.

I'm just glad the Internet happened. That got it really complicated! :)

[Forgivance]

Cannot vote on the poll. It's bias.

I do NOT feel the media is making anyone loose a war atm.

I DO feel that if the media broadcasts troop movements and other intel - than that could cost alot of lives and should be seen as treason (same thing as spying).

I DO feel that this horse is dead and am wondering why, in all your views, you keep beating the hell out of it.

[Skyborn]

I think you fail at the following:

- Balanced poll making.
- Logical thought
- Reading comprehension
- Rational arguments
- Intelligence above that of a chimpanzee

I find the following hilarious:

- That you got soo butt hurt getting ignored in my thread you had to make one up to try and bag on me. (troll more)
- That you are completely unaware how ignorant you are.


There is more but I think this covers the basics.


You'd be getting major OT grow up points right now if white text boy wasn't your only friend.