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It's been officially announced or something, and I'm terribly frightened.
They said something about removing the shadow stealth element and replacing it with a cover system, and get this:
They are replacing normal health with health regen.
I HATE the way every game that releases now has to have health regen.
Fucking consoles are to blame.
Fuuuuuck!!!
Also, Deus Ex is one of the top 5 games of all time.
Discuss.
Link for you lazy assholes:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=198546
Saturday Saint
10-07-2008, 01:38 AM
It'll probably be better than the crap the first two were, so stop bitching.
jordanleroux
10-07-2008, 01:39 AM
I speak English.
I speak English.
Prove it.
Saturday Saint
10-07-2008, 01:42 AM
Prove it.
He doesn't have to prove anything to you. He has God.
Slaker
10-07-2008, 01:55 AM
Deus Ex 3...so many things can go wrong...I hope they don't screw up the franchise.
Enerzeal
10-07-2008, 01:57 AM
Health regen lol.
Elemancer
10-07-2008, 02:11 AM
Deus Ex 3...so many things can go wrong...I hope they don't screw up the franchise.
uh...deus ex 2 was a huge screw up imo
uh...deus ex 2 was a huge screw up imo
Deus Ex 2 saved itself by allowing you to shoot up a school in any manner you wished. If only Jack Thompson had found out before his mad reign ended...
Slaker
10-07-2008, 02:14 AM
uh...deus ex 2 was a huge screw up imo
What are you talking about?
Saturday Saint
10-07-2008, 02:16 AM
What are you talking about?
He was talking about the massive failure that Deus Ex 2 was. Considering it was a minor improvement at best, it was destined to fail. Hopefully they don't fuck up this next one like they did with the first two.
He was talking about the massive failure that Deus Ex 2 was. Considering it was a minor improvement at best, it was destined to fail. Hopefully they don't fuck up this next one like they did with the first two.
1: How do you consider Deus Ex 1 a fuck up?
2: And how do you consider Deus Ex 2 better?
From one follows 3: how do you consider yourself a gamer?
dzdncnfusd
10-07-2008, 02:36 AM
What the hell is this shit!!!!!
While I don't mind health regen as an "augmentation" (Mind you the original had it as one.) This cover system "me too" thing is kinda irritating me in that they are like the 42nd game to hype that to death. The reason behind this is that while I don't mind direct confrontations in the original. The stealth mechanics and such were able to add a layer of depth to the gameplay.
I would like a return to form for the series if anything akin to the originals emphasis on player choice outside of routes and such (Which Invisible War focused on just the progression nature of the deal.) that gave a good balance to the RPG/FPS elements involved. Though if they hand me a GEP gun I may be okay.:rolleyes:
cosimo84
10-07-2008, 02:40 AM
yeah wtf is the popularity with health regen. It has always been one of those things that I've tolerated because I realize people don't want to sit around and do nothing, but
.....when you get shot, gangrene doesn't heal you.
As a game feature to make things "more fun". It allows players to play in a total gung ho fashion,..all they have to do is not die and the next bout that comes around you can fight like spray and pray bullet sponge again. Instead of playing conservatively, trying not to get hurt at all.
It takes a lot of the adrenaline rush/fear/fun out of the game.
Damwa
10-07-2008, 02:42 AM
It'll probably be better than the crap the first two were, so stop bitching.
Entering into a thread about a game-series with the remark that the series is crap, kind of indicates a troll; doesn't it?
Xalren
10-07-2008, 02:43 AM
Never played deus ex, always wanted to though.
And yes health regen is a big ewww.
The OP never insulted the series, he insulted what he thought the new game would be like.
What the hell is this shit!!!!!
While I don't mind health regen as an "augmentation" (Mind you the original had it as one.) This cover system "me too" thing is kinda irritating me in that they are like the 42nd game to hype that to death. The reason behind this is that while I don't mind direct confrontations in the original. The stealth mechanics and such were able to add a layer of depth to the gameplay.
I would like a return to form for the series if anything akin to the originals emphasis on player choice outside of routes and such (Which Invisible War focused on just the progression nature of the deal.) that gave a good balance to the RPG/FPS elements involved. Though if they hand me a GEP gun I may be okay.:rolleyes:
That's the thing with the original, there are so many ways to play through it. The skill and augmentation progression was perfectly done. There isn't a single skill except perhaps environmental training that is useless, and each problem always had multiple ways around, multiple as in at least 3. Man, I might have to reinstall it now. I've never played it as a heavy weapons kind of guy.
Entering into a thread about a game-series with the remark that the series is crap, kind of indicates a troll; doesn't it?
Trolls = free +1s!
Saturday Saint
10-07-2008, 02:45 AM
Entering into a thread about a game-series with the remark that the series is crap, kind of indicates a troll; doesn't it?
Or it just means that the person is very outspoken about their opinions, wants their +1's, and happens to dislike the game.
Anyways, what is regeneration? Where your health comes back? How is that a feature?
Xalren
10-07-2008, 02:46 AM
Anyways, what is regeneration? Where your health comes back? How is that a feature?
Blame Halo and the Xbox crowd.
Saturday Saint
10-07-2008, 02:47 AM
I liked Halo's regeneration system, at least the first one's, and it works well for some games, namely FPS's. But RPG's with FPS-style health? What?
Wickfield
10-07-2008, 02:52 AM
Blame Halo and the Xbox crowd.
I'm punching the next one I see right in the face.
Damwa
10-07-2008, 02:53 AM
Or it just means that the person is very outspoken about their opinions, wants their +1's, and happens to dislike the game.
Anyways, what is regeneration? Where your health comes back? How is that a feature?
That may be; I was just wondering why you were attracted to comment in a thread about the up-coming release of the third installment in a series, that you (so far) have found to be utter crap..
As for regen; I wouldn't want it as a "freebie" in any game, but apparently someone over at Eidos does.
This, however, I am more annoyed with:
[..] this time around combat won't be influenced by stats, but will rely purely on your personal marksmanship skills.
And this:
Augmentations have been bumped up and sound fantastic. 20 have been promised for the final game, ranging from 'bungee jump' tentacles that shoot from your back and anchor to a wall when you jump off a building, and the ability to punch through walls to grab enemies in neighbouring rooms.
Don't get me wrong; more and better augmentations are likely to be fun as such, but it seems sort of "Force Unleashed"-ish to me. That is; if this is a prequel, then how does it make sense to have better and more augmentations than in the two other games? It may be a small thing, but it annoys me, none the less.
Phalanx
10-07-2008, 02:54 AM
Hmm... Health regen is nice for normal action games, since they're all linear and you just want to go on with the plot anyway, but I've never heard of it for an RPG-FPS before.
Maybe this means Deus Ex 3 will be more action-oriented.
kingpin
10-07-2008, 02:57 AM
what makes deux ex so good? it's just a fps like bioshock right? or it's more like system shock 2 with skill upgrades etc.
giev info i might get it tommorow if i like what i hear. you should know i trust forumfalls opinion above all else!
Saturday Saint
10-07-2008, 03:02 AM
The only redeeming feature of Deus Ex is that you can waste people's time by mentioning it. Every time Deus Ex is mentioned, somebody will reinstall it and waste more of their time. So I wouldn't buy it, personally.
Killuminati
10-07-2008, 03:03 AM
The second was dogshit so why should I care?
w00t! Just found a gameplay trailer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow
Saturday Saint
10-07-2008, 03:05 AM
This is going to get old fast.
Damwa
10-07-2008, 03:08 AM
The only redeeming feature of Deus Ex is that you can waste people's time by mentioning it. Every time Deus Ex is mentioned, somebody will reinstall it and waste more of their time. So I wouldn't buy it, personally.
Well, it is only a waste of time if you don't enjoy it.
Phalanx
10-07-2008, 03:09 AM
what makes deux ex so good? it's just a fps like bioshock right? or it's more like system shock 2 with skill upgrades etc.
giev info i might get it tommorow if i like what i hear. you should know i trust forumfalls opinion above all else!
It's basically like System Shock 2 but with another setting and an awesome storyline, as well as more interaction with NPCs.
Saturday Saint
10-07-2008, 03:09 AM
Well, it is only a wast of time if you don't enjoy it.
If I enjoyed wasting time, would I be wasting time by wasting time?
If I enjoyed wasting time, would I be wasting time by wasting time?
So if I enjoyed wasting wasting time, would I be wasting time by wasting wasting time?
kingpin
10-07-2008, 03:13 AM
It's basically like System Shock 2 but with another setting and an awesome storyline, as well as more interaction with NPCs.
that's more than i needed to hear. this game shall be mine! it must be really cheap too.
w00t! Just found a gameplay trailer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow
You have much to learn, #121885.
First thing would be to get out of my thread.
You have much to learn, #121885.
First thing would be to get out of my thread.
Would you teach me, #12352?
Would you teach me, #12352?
Of course. ALT-F4, is a simple solution to the problem.
Of course. ALT-F4, is a simple solution to the problem.
Where is the "Alt-F4" button?
ejnomad07
10-07-2008, 04:55 AM
Love these games but..
Health Regen..:(
Odium
10-07-2008, 10:31 AM
Deus Ex, check.
Thief, check.
Fallout, check.
What legendary game series should we ruin next? Baldur's Gate perhaps?
Layedballer
10-07-2008, 10:37 AM
Deus Ex, check.
Thief, check.
Fallout, check.
What legendary game series should we ruin next? Baldur's Gate perhaps?
Check
Then what?
Elder scrolls?
Oh wait they did that :(
It'll probably be better than the crap the second was, so stop bitching.
Fixt but it remains wrong : it'll be worse than Deus Ex 2, which was already a stinking pile of shit compared to Deus Ex.
Too bad they try to make games for PC and consoles. The 2 platforms aren't for the same public, either you design a baby game for the console, or you design a good game for PC.
Surly
10-07-2008, 11:47 AM
When COD did the health regen thing it was novel and alright, but definitely not something I want to see copied.
LordTenacious
10-07-2008, 11:53 AM
COD4 was novel in that aspect? That's news to me.
Suitepee
10-07-2008, 12:00 PM
I don't have a problem with health regen in a videogame. The games that have it usually revolve needing it anyway to have fun,so it's not an issue. Hasn't exactly dented COD4 or Gears from being good games.
Could you imagine the standard health system in COD 'grenade spam from American quarterback bad guys with pinpoint accuracy' 4?
Other than that I've never played a Deus Ex game beyond renting the first once and not getting very far enough to care much about it. I did rate the general atmosphere and open-ended mission structure though.
Filip
10-07-2008, 01:14 PM
COD4 was novel in that aspect? That's news to me.
I'm going ahead and guess he meant the first CoD, seeing as there was no four behind it.
Pcheez
10-07-2008, 01:38 PM
Wow, what a kick in the nuts.
Deus Ex 1 is the reason i didnt ace my baccaleureate back in the day, was that addicted.
DE 2 was "meh", definitely a step down from 1, story was still ok tho.
Health regen, fuck that, fuck it.
Ill try it, maybe they make it innovative, i dont want to feel like playing call of duty.
I'm going ahead and guess he meant the first CoD, seeing as there was no four behind it.
The first CoD didn't have health regen. That didn't appear until number 2.
Scully
10-07-2008, 02:41 PM
I liked Deus Ex 2 more than the first game. Yes...
About Deus Ex 3. I'm pretty sure it will suck. Most games now days do.
Odium
10-08-2008, 01:59 AM
I liked Deus Ex 2 more than the first game. Yes...
About Deus Ex 3. I'm pretty sure it will suck. Most games now days do.
Blasphemy! Deus Ex 2 felt incredibly dumbed down. The story was alright, but the gameplay just wasn't there for me.
Goldsblade
10-08-2008, 02:13 AM
health regen? to me thats just plain stupid for deus ex 3 expecially as there is no real reason for it.
I liked he sense of danger brought ut by having low health on your torso and losing your lgs by accident from a bagly placed lam was a big blow to any plan health regen would destroy some tactics.
Also i enjoy the flame thrower...
Lethn
10-08-2008, 02:16 AM
What's more, stealth will now rely on a cover system rather than shadows, and damage will be dealt with by a very Call of Duty-style auto-heal.
That just means they're not having stealth in, they just ripped off the combat system from Call of Duty and I'm guessing if they're using a 'cover' system it'll be either shit like call of duty as well where you can just crouch or go prone or it will be something like gears of war.
Honestly it fucking amazes me the legnths that games companies will go to lie out of their teeth in order to sell their products or prevent a certain fanbase from ripping them apart.
Deus ex has been killed off as well now... R.I.P Pre-Cu SWG, Ultima Online, Command and Conquer, Startopia, Dungeon Keeper, Starcraft, Neverwinter Nights, Baldurs Gate, Final Fantasy... Did I miss anymore? All these games have been blown apart or forgotten because games companies are trying to cater to an imaginary player base.
Xalren
10-08-2008, 02:20 AM
That just means they're not having stealth in, they just ripped off the combat system from Call of Duty and I'm guessing if they're using a 'cover' system it'll be either shit like call of duty as well where you can just crouch or go prone or it will be something like gears of war.
Honestly it fucking amazes me the legnths that games companies will go to lie out of their teeth in order to sell their products or prevent a certain fanbase from ripping them apart.
Deus ex has been killed off as well now... R.I.P Pre-Cu SWG, Ultima Online, Command and Conquer, Startopia, Dungeon Keeper, Starcraft, Neverwinter Nights, Baldurs Gate, Final Fantasy... Did I miss anymore? All these games have been blown apart because games companies are trying to cater to an imaginary player base.
*says prayer to Bioware*
Goldsblade
10-08-2008, 02:24 AM
actualy neverwinter nights still has a large (and genurally content) population of players (myeslf included) and i belive starcraft is popular in korea.
However i dont see the point of a health regen system whats the point of medi packs and healing chocolate bars when you duck behind a barrel and your "invisible sheilds" regenerate? last i checked deus ex isnt halo in any way.
That just means they're not having stealth in, they just ripped off the combat system from Call of Duty and I'm guessing if they're using a 'cover' system it'll be either shit like call of duty as well where you can just crouch or go prone or it will be something like gears of war.
Honestly it fucking amazes me the legnths that games companies will go to lie out of their teeth in order to sell their products or prevent a certain fanbase from ripping them apart.
Deus ex has been killed off as well now... R.I.P Pre-Cu SWG, Ultima Online, Command and Conquer, Startopia, Dungeon Keeper, Starcraft, Neverwinter Nights, Baldurs Gate, Final Fantasy... Did I miss anymore? All these games have been blown apart or forgotten because games companies are trying to cater to an imaginary player base.
How many GOTY awarded games (since the golden days of stuff like BG and HOMM) have had their sequels recieve the same honors? Besides pure FPSes like HL2 and that dumbed down console crap Oblivion, even though I played it and enjoyed it.
Not very fucking many.
Zokten
10-08-2008, 06:43 PM
Entering into a thread about a game-series with the remark that the series is crap, kind of indicates a troll; doesn't it?
Don't expect much from saint in good game taste anyways.
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