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Apex Vertigo
10-01-2008, 01:29 AM
How did that end? I can't find a link to how it's been settled... if it's been settled, but maybe I've just not looked hard enough. Anyone want to link/explain what's going on with that?

I think I got distracted by the economic bs and completely forgot about that little fiasco.

Dreadknought
10-01-2008, 01:31 AM
Russia still occupies South Ossetia.

Skyborn
10-01-2008, 04:12 AM
NATO told Russia to GTFO, Russia said get bent, Russia abused every major city in Georgia, Russia said they were leaving completely. Russia said they were gone. They are not gone.

Chances are what they "meant" was that they would leave everything but Ossetia and the other province to the NW but likely intentionally made it sound like they were leaving to get everyone off their backs...which worked cause now no one seems to care.

Putin is a dick

Wickfield
10-01-2008, 04:15 AM
NATO told Russia to GTFO, Russia said get bent, Russia abused every major city in Georgia, Russia said they were leaving completely. Russia said they were gone. They are not gone.

Chances are what they "meant" was that they would leave everything but Ossetia and the other province to the NW but likely intentionally made it sound like they were leaving to get everyone off their backs...which worked cause now no one seems to care.

Putin is a dick

This.

rockyraccoon
10-01-2008, 04:57 AM
NATO told Russia to GTFO, Russia said get bent, Russia abused every major city in Georgia, Russia said they were leaving completely. Russia said they were gone. They are not gone.

Chances are what they "meant" was that they would leave everything but Ossetia and the other province to the NW but likely intentionally made it sound like they were leaving to get everyone off their backs...which worked cause now no one seems to care.

Putin is a dick

also they ruined teh commie china's epic gamez so teh commie china rejected russia's love letter.

Xtra-Medium
10-01-2008, 05:18 AM
the current financial crisis has overshadowed allot of other events, like US being on the verge of war with pakistan

stalwart
10-01-2008, 05:50 AM
OH. MY. GAWD. That was, like, totally last week.

Shit, "Georgia" is the new "Darfur" = nobody gives a shit anymore, we've moved on to something else.

FermentedLies
10-01-2008, 05:54 AM
OH. MY. GAWD. That was, like, totally last week.

Shit, "Georgia" is the new "Darfur" = nobody gives a shit anymore, we've moved on to something else.

Kind of like Osama Bin Laden?

EHEM...I mean...

Bratus
10-01-2008, 06:33 AM
osama who?

I'll just make up my own enemies its much cheaper, Lets Bomb LIBOR its at 6.8 now good thing I locked my rate 1 hr before the rates just 1/2 %

WhySoSerious
10-01-2008, 06:36 AM
NATO told Russia to GTFO, Russia said get bent, Russia abused every major city in Georgia, Russia said they were leaving completely. Russia said they were gone. They are not gone.

Chances are what they "meant" was that they would leave everything but Ossetia and the other province to the NW but likely intentionally made it sound like they were leaving to get everyone off their backs...which worked cause now no one seems to care.

Putin is a dick

I disagree

Shane
10-01-2008, 06:40 AM
I disagree

I disagree as well.

Georgia attacked/mortared its own people, Russia went in because it was not only opportune, but they went in to defend the Russians living in the South Ossetian region.

Russia was helping. Georgia cried foul when it was their fault to begin with! :bang:

Krylas
10-01-2008, 06:59 AM
NATO told Russia to GTFO, Russia said get bent, Russia abused every major city in Georgia, Russia said they were leaving completely. Russia said they were gone. They are not gone.

Chances are what they "meant" was that they would leave everything but Ossetia and the other province to the NW but likely intentionally made it sound like they were leaving to get everyone off their backs...which worked cause now no one seems to care.

Putin is a dick

I find your point shallow and pedantic.

Bratus
10-01-2008, 07:00 AM
Russia handed out passports to the people who revolted in Georgia then claimed they were Russian citizens... What are Russian citizens doing in a warzone in a soverign nation in the middle of a civil war?

Amaryl
10-01-2008, 07:03 AM
both ossetia and the other province abchazia or something, declared independence and russia acknowledged them.

Shane
10-01-2008, 07:06 AM
Russia handed out passports to the people who revolted in Georgia then claimed they were Russian citizens... What are Russian citizens doing in a warzone in a soverign nation in the middle of a civil war?

It wasn't a warzone before Georgia attacked it's own people.

Which in reality is a sovereign state.

Georgia attacked another country, though we don't believe they're another country.

Krylas
10-01-2008, 07:07 AM
Russia handed out passports to the people who revolted in Georgia then claimed they were Russian citizens... What are Russian citizens doing in a warzone in a soverign nation in the middle of a civil war?

I also find your point shallow and pedantic.

Bratus
10-01-2008, 07:16 AM
It wasn't a warzone before Georgia attacked it's own people.

Which in reality is a sovereign state.

Georgia attacked another country, though we don't believe they're another country.

So your telling me one day they just said hey lets roll our tanks and burn this city full of unsuspecting innocent russians.

They've been fighting for months it was just an opportunity to crush the rebels...

Bratus
10-01-2008, 07:19 AM
I find your point shallow and pedantic.

I find your comment in support of genocide

Krylas
10-01-2008, 07:41 AM
I find your comment in support of genocide

I find your sharp tone of voice to be the cause of most natural disasters.

Shane
10-01-2008, 07:42 AM
So your telling me one day they just said hey lets roll our tanks and burn this city full of unsuspecting innocent russians.

They've been fighting for months it was just an opportunity to crush the freedom fighters...

I had to tweak your wording a little.

And no, I'm not saying that, but Georgia has a peace-loving society to take care of. Obviously rolling in the mortar fire is what the doctor ordered for that.

Krylas
10-01-2008, 07:44 AM
I had to tweak your wording a little.

And no, I'm not saying that, but Georgia has a peace-loving society to take care of. Obviously rolling in the mortar fire is what the doctor ordered for that.

I find you-...
I'll stop.
_______________________________________
're point shallow and pedantic.

Vanno
10-01-2008, 08:27 AM
What happened with Georgia? Let's see, it is a country near the Balkans. As such, it is a clusterfuck and not worth much consideration. For a week or so American's and the world paid attention, but then they remembered 'oh it is just Georgia.' The end

Iloplex
10-01-2008, 08:40 AM
What happened with Georgia? Let's see, it is a country near the Balkans. As such, it is a clusterfuck and not worth much consideration. For a week or so American's and the world paid attention, but then they remembered 'oh it is just Georgia.' The end

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Natsuo
10-01-2008, 09:38 AM
i think we RAN OUTTA GAS LOL

edit: get it im talking about the state georgia thats the joke

Galadourn
10-01-2008, 09:49 AM
ffs, get it straight...

with the collapse of the Soviet Union, many Russian nationals found themselves converted into citizens of - now- sovereign foreign countries.

A total of 25 million Russian nationals are estimated to live as citizens in countries that form the Russian federation of states - Georgia, Ukraine (not part of the federation), Ingushetia, Azerbaijan, Tadzhikstan, Kazakhstan, Belarus, etc.

S. Ossetia and Abchazia, which had populations comprised mainly of Russians, were existing in a state of independence under the Georgian State, with an agreement signed in 1993.

However, the Georgian government never stopped coveting those lands, wishing to annex them to Georgia proper. For years, the Georgian government was trying to oust the Russian citizens off the area, following an aggressive policy against them, not paying pensions, etc. Russia distributed passports in order to protect those nationals and pay their pensions.

Seeing that this plan was not working Saakhasvili, silently supported by the hawks in the White House,decided to storm those areas believing that if he created a precedent, the Russians would not respond and he could finally claim these lands as Georgian lands.

He was wrong.

In effect the Georgians got themselves into this mess, and Russia rightfully reacted in that manner.

Teth
10-01-2008, 10:18 AM
Some further clarification to Galadourn's point: with the collapse of the USSR, every Soviet citizen was given the option of claiming Russian citizenship in lieu of, or in addition to, the "native" citizenship of their new fragmentary state. Suffice to say, tons of people from the Central Asian republics took advantage of this, because jobs were easier to find and more profitable in Russia proper. This is why you have Russian citizens scattered all over the former USSR.

Also what the fuck Vanno. "Near the Balkans"? Christ, way to reaffirm the legendary American fuckincompetence with geography. "Near the Balkans" like California is "near Rhode Island", fuckwit.

andy9306
10-01-2008, 11:02 AM
I claim, without any evidence, that it was the Taliban who started it. Allied with China, North Korea, Osama Bin Laden, Iran, and Canada. The Canadians are the worst. Damn war-mongers.

Lictor
10-01-2008, 11:37 AM
NATO told Russia to GTFO, Russia said get bent, Russia abused every major city in Georgia, Russia said they were leaving completely. Russia said they were gone. They are not gone.

Chances are what they "meant" was that they would leave everything but Ossetia and the other province to the NW but likely intentionally made it sound like they were leaving to get everyone off their backs...which worked cause now no one seems to care.

Putin is a dick

Russia is now just behaving like USA's younger brother, admiring his sibling and wishing to emulate all his deeds.



USA had their 9/11 and then attacked Afghanistan (quite obvious pretense attack, having completely different reasons, than to chase after some bearded idiot hiding in there),


and then



Russia had their Beslan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis) and then attacked Chechnya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War) (quite obvious pretense attack, having completely different reasons, than to chase after some bearded idiots hiding in there).


Events of this year:



USA backed the Kosovo Independence (the main reason, why Kosovo exists today as a sovereign state), which was an act against Europe (in the future - it might be a source of many future conflicts and trouble on Balkan peninsula thus making EU weak, solving this mess, while USA rubs hands), Russia (traditional Serbian political and cultural ally) but mainly Serbians (they have lost part of their ancestral territory, belonging to Serbia for over 1000 years!). It was another mean doing on part of Bush's administration,


and then



Russia stirs trouble on Caucasus by silently supporting ethnic intolerance between Russians, Georgians, Abkhazians and Chechens. CIA further tries to destabilize the area by arming, training and satellitizing Georgia - Russia neighour - to USA, but Russians respond by launching quick (and very effective in its brutality) attack, crushing Georgia like a bug, destroying it's infrastructure (returning the country into a stone age), stealing American military equipment worth millions, loitering a little bit (to show, everybody can kiss their ass, especially their "elder brother") and eventually promising to back out of Georgia, when kindly asked to do so by EU. It was a typical Russian stunt there, BTW: "When Condolezza asked, we were a little bit worried but kept a poker face and said fuck you... and nothing happened. Great! When EU asked, we were completely not afraid of the pussies (which is obvious to everyone, so we don't lose face) and decided to show our "soft hearts" and promised to back out"). Now, when Abkhazia and South Ossetia are formally Independent (with Russia making them able to declare independence) just like Kosovo is, the Russia is again even with USA.


Russians (and Putin especially) strongly believe in eye-for-eye, tooth-for-tooth policy. They have kept the coldwarish mindset.

Gmoneyslim12
10-01-2008, 11:43 AM
Russia is tooo epic, Thread won GG

Vanno
10-01-2008, 11:59 AM
Also what the fuck Vanno. "Near the Balkans"? Christ, way to reaffirm the legendary American fuckincompetence with geography. "Near the Balkans" like California is "near Rhode Island", fuckwit.

Thought someone might miss the irony and /emo over that. Apparently I need to draw you a picture. My entire post was pointing out that nobody cares about Georgia. Naturally, I'd misrepresent it's geography.

Vanno
10-01-2008, 11:59 AM
I claim, without any evidence, that it was the Taliban who started it. Allied with China, North Korea, Osama Bin Laden, Iran, and Canada. The Canadians are the worst. Damn war-mongers.

Indeed, and Sarah Palin is a secret Candien.

Schmaus
10-01-2008, 01:57 PM
the current financial crisis has overshadowed allot of other events, like US being on the verge of war with pakistan

reminds me of a great movie" Wag the dog"

you know , how a war was created to turn away attention from a firefly schandal,

m0j0mann
10-01-2008, 02:25 PM
A brief history of the Georgia war.

Georgia's president, a Bush-wannabe called Mikhail Saakashvili decided to get clever with South Ossetia while Putin (and the rest of the world) was busy at the Olympics.
However, he forgot about Putin's sidekick, Medvedev, the boy wonder, who, with a battle-cry of "holy separatist balkans nation, commissar!" threw a fuckton of tanks, planes, and ships at South Ossetia, which managed to stop the Georgian advance.

The true signal of Georgia's defeat came later, however, when it was realised that the Putin in the Olympics was just a clone, and that Putin was on his way to Georgia to kick ass and take names. (And to chew bubblegum, but it soon became apparent that he was all out of gum)
Reuters managed to capture this rare footage of Putin and his clones in full attack mode (http://putintank.ytmnd.com/) against Georgia.

After utterly wrecking Georgia's shit in the space of 3 minutes and 23 seconds, and saving the day once again, Putin turned his attentions to Alaska (http://www.boingboing.net/images/x_2008/putinrearshishead.jpg).

Lictor
10-01-2008, 02:54 PM
A brief history of the Georgia war.

Georgia's president, a Bush-wannabe called Mikhail Saakashvili decided to get clever with South Ossetia while Putin (and the rest of the world) was busy at the Olympics.
However, he forgot about Putin's sidekick, Medvedev, the boy wonder, who, with a battle-cry of "holy separatist balkans nation, commissar!" threw a fuckton of tanks, planes, and ships at South Ossetia, which managed to stop the Georgian advance.

The true signal of Georgia's defeat came later, however, when it was realised that the Putin in the Olympics was just a clone, and that Putin was on his way to Georgia to kick ass and take names. (And to chew bubblegum, but it soon became apparent that he was all out of gum)
Reuters managed to capture this rare footage of Putin and his clones in full attack mode (http://putintank.ytmnd.com/) against Georgia.

After utterly wrecking Georgia's shit in the space of 3 minutes and 23 seconds, and saving the day once again, Putin turned his attentions to Alaska (http://www.boingboing.net/images/x_2008/putinrearshishead.jpg).

It's a good summary of Georgian war, thanks! There are even links, so this must be true. :cool: