Sex or Love

[Tiarilir]

So while I made my sandwiches recently, I started thinking about this girl I might start to date (we've been dating before, and she ran away with a friend of mine, who no longer is my friend, but that's another story). Well the thing is I don't think she's very into sex, but more of the girl that isn't the random slut you meet. She's an interesting woman and I'd definately date her if I knew I'd get sex at least once per week.

Now most of us are men, and I'd like to know what you'd choose.
The sex or the love? You can't have both, because that's obviously overpowered. And if you do have both, what would you pick if you couldn't have both?

Anyways. Poll incoming.

[Baralis]

Where is the none of the above option? I avoid women totaly and no im not gay. I just dont like their BS.

[palo god]

Who says you cant have both? but When it comes to marriage I would pick the girl that I love.

[Tiarilir]

Where is the none of the above option? I avoid women totaly and no im not gay. I just dont like their BS.

You don't HAVE to vote. And technically you could choose men love or sex from men too!

[Agge]

Sex.

I can get love frome alot of diffrent places, then again, same could be said for sex. I guess I'm just that horny... OH SNAP!

[Enerzeal]

Love is the key factor. Cause going to prison cause you beat your smokin hot nimpho wife to hard cause she pisses you off so bad can be a ball ache to the max.

[Beorg]

You won't get anything lasting out of sex, but you can become a totally different person from love.

[Blixa]

Where is the none of the above option? I avoid women totaly and no im not gay. I just dont like their BS.

this option is called "don't vote".

[Toilet]

So while I made my sandwiches recently, I started thinking about this girl I might start to date (we've been dating before, and she ran away with a friend of mine, who no longer is my friend, but that's another story). Well the thing is I don't think she's very into sex, but more of the girl that isn't the random slut you meet. She's an interesting woman and I'd definately date her if I knew I'd get sex at least once per week.

Now most of us are men, and I'd like to know what you'd choose.
The sex or the love? You can't have both, because that's obviously overpowered. And if you do have both, what would you pick if you couldn't have both?

Anyways. Poll incoming.

Just think about the fact that your brain unleashes the same chemicals during a relationship as during an addiction to for example weed.

[no-one]

I had love. What a pain in the ass that was. Next time I pick sex. (only if I can pay)

[Spinewire]

So while I made my sandwiches recently, I started thinking about this girl I might start to date (we've been dating before, and she ran away with a friend of mine, who no longer is my friend, but that's another story). Well the thing is I don't think she's very into sex, but more of the girl that isn't the random slut you meet. She's an interesting woman and I'd definately date her if I knew I'd get sex at least once per week.

Now most of us are men, and I'd like to know what you'd choose.
The sex or the love? You can't have both, because that's obviously overpowered. And if you do have both, what would you pick if you couldn't have both?

Anyways. Poll incoming.
Wait you were with her and she fucked off with your friend now you want to go back out with her???

Have i missed something?

I had love. What a pain in the ass that was. Next time I pick sex. (only if I can pay)Only thing worse than paying for sex is begging.... get a fucking grip.

[Tiarilir]

Wait you were with her and she fucked off with your friend now you want to go back out with her???

Have i missed something?


We were all drunk, nothing happened according to all, I don't talk to the shithead anymore after that and she says she's still interested. Hell, why not give it a try?

[Scully]

Why not both?

[kingpin]

woman: I don't want to have sex with you but i LOVE you.
man : WTF IS THIS SHIT?
woman: I said i LOVE you ALRIGHT?

man : I am sorry honey but for us to get married you have to sign this premarital agreement.
woman: WTF IS THIS SHIT?
man : Oh don't worry honey, what matters is that i LOVE you.

if a woman loves you she'll want to have sex with you. if she doesn't it's not you that she loves.

who wants an anorgasmic wife anyway?

[Nehemia]

Pfft. People always think "this girl ain't into sex." But trust me, you'd get from her daily. Its simple pattern, women hunger for sex more than men, damn it.

So, its simple choice; I'd rather date than have an sex-relationship. So; Love.

[Spinewire]

We were all drunk, nothing happened according to all, I don't talk to the shithead anymore after that and she says she's still interested. Hell, why not give it a try?
If you trust her then yea sure why not.... if there is an ounce of doubt then sack it off.

[Jezrith]

Now most of us are men, and I'd like to know what you'd choose.
The sex or the love? You can't have both, because that's obviously overpowered. And if you do have both, what would you pick if you couldn't have both?


If I couldn't have both, sex. Without sex, its just friendship anyway.

[Spinewire]

If I couldn't have both, sex. Without sex, its just friendship anyway.
this

[Temet nosce]

I have friends, and I have friends with benefits. The whole romantic love thing? It's imaginary, take a look at the divorce rate in the USA. It's what? 80%? 90%? Something like that. The way we treat sex, and box it up with this entire concept of lifelong mates and the like and treat it as though it were either holy or dirty is completely absurd.

[Spinewire]

I have friends, and I have friends with benefits. The whole romantic love thing? It's imaginary, take a look at the divorce rate in the USA. It's what? 80%? 90%? Something like that. The way we treat sex, and box it up with this entire concept of lifelong mates and the like and treat it as though it were either holy or dirty is completely absurd.
sucks to be you

[Silverhandorder]

Sex comes without love.

But if there is love there will be sex, and lots of it.

[Everto]

With love comes sex! :)

Women use sex to get love.
Men use love to get sex.

[AmonDominus]

WOW! Just wow.
Love wins sex in the poll? Man, forumfallers are really really fuckin weak.

[ClownFoot]

Wow, I'm surpised. I thought everyone would be voting sex just because of who these guys are.

I picked love btw. Much more meaningful than sex in any relationship.

[heroshade]

Go find Bawlin and look at his sigpic. That is my answer.

[iza]

Awwww forumfall is so sentimental

[Viluin]

No sex, no love.

No love, and there can still be sex.


Therefore, sex > love.

[alfaroverall]

If I couldn't have both, sex. Without sex, its just friendship anyway.
Assuming that sex is nowhere to be found (i.e. that I'm pretty damn sure it's not coming, not that it just hasn't come yet) I agree with this.

[hardboiled]

We are good Christians.

[Dredgon]

Love makes dinner, but sex gives blow jobs.

[Death's Chill]

Where is the none of the above option? I avoid women totaly and no im not gay. I just dont like their BS.

For the most part, AMEN. However; there are exceptions to this.

[Death's Chill]

WOW! Just wow.
Love wins sex in the poll? Man, forumfallers are really really fuckin weak.

Yeah, wanting to be with someone you actually have an emotional connection with over just mindless fucking certainly makes us all weak. :rolleyes:

[ClownFoot]

Oh hey, on an unrelated note, remember how you were bragging that you would get 4k before me Tiarilir? And notice how I'm at 5k and you are still at 3k? Yeah? Fucking pwned, lovey dovey.

[Damwa]

I would definitely choose love for the relationship..

..and have sex with another chick on the side.

Can I do that?

[Dredgon]

I would definitely choose love for the relationship..

..and have sex with another chick on the side.

Can I do that?

Do you have ninja skills?

[Damwa]

Oh hey, on an unrelated note, remember how you were bragging that you would get 4k before me Tiarilir? And notice how I'm at 5k and you are still at 3k? Yeah? Fucking pwned, lovey dovey.

You have 2000 more posts on this internet forum, and to you that means you won?

Ok...

[Zeaph]

I see after the results are in, most of you are lying.

[Damwa]

Do you have ninja skills?

Well, I don't know.. but sometimes I like totally flip out and kill people.. especially pirates.

[Damwa]

I see after the results are in, most of you are lying.

Wow, ESP really *does* exist!

[ClownFoot]

Well, I don't know.. but sometimes I like totally flip out and kill people.. especially pirates.

That just means you aren't heterosexual.

[AmonDominus]

Yeah, wanting to be with someone you actually have an emotional connection with over just mindless fucking certainly makes us all weak. :rolleyes:

Emotional connection is a lie and it wears off after a few years of routine,.

[Damwa]

That just means you aren't heterosexual.

Huh... :confused:

[Lioness]

Does my vote count? Lol...

But still, I say love.

IMO anyone who chooses sex has never felt love.

[ChillyUK]

sex is nice an all

but tbh love > all

[greeneggsnoham]

You won't get anything lasting out of sex, but you can become a totally different person from love.

Yes. You can become a p-whipped little nancy boy, trapped in a dead end job to pay for her white picket fence.

Not bitter. Not bitter.

[Honest Bill]

This love that you seek does not exist outside the desire to have sex, and furthermore to be the only one with whom she has sex. that's what love is. Not just for men but for women too. The difference is that men are usually more realistic about it

[The Cougar]

I can't imagine being with someone that wouldn't let me fuck her.

[Honest Bill]

I can't imagine being with someone that wouldn't let me fuck her.

Of course you can't. That's the point of being with somebody. Or else you're merely friends

[Tiarilir]

Oh hey, on an unrelated note, remember how you were bragging that you would get 4k before me Tiarilir? And notice how I'm at 5k and you are still at 3k? Yeah? Fucking pwned, lovey dovey.

Yes I hate you.

[The Cougar]

Of course you can't. That's the point of being with somebody. Or else you're merely friends
Less than friends.

[Nefastus]

Where is the none of the above option? I avoid women totaly and no im not gay. I just dont like their BS.

What the fuck. You must be either a priest or animal lover.

[dannytupac]

SEX! !!!!


I love to get down and dirty.. mmm..mm.. mmm....
:ohno:

[Damwa]

This love that you seek does not exist outside the desire to have sex, and furthermore to be the only one with whom she has sex. that's what love is. Not just for men but for women too. The difference is that men are usually more realistic about it

So there is no such thing as love between friends and relatives? Or is that just a suppressed or sublimated desire to have sex with them as well?

[Helgeran]

So there is no such thing as love between friends and relatives? Or is that just a suppressed or sublimated desire to have sex with them as well?
According to Freud, yes.

[Honest Bill]

So there is no such thing as love between friends and relatives? Or is that just a suppressed or sublimated desire to have sex with them as well?

No that is a different kind of love. that is real love, not the kind that people are experiencing when they begin a relationship with somebody. That kind of ideal that people strive for does not really exist. If you can find the kind of love you're talking about with a woman, without the sex, then she is essentialy a friend and should be treated as such

[Damwa]

No that is a different kind of love. that is real love, not the kind that people are experiencing when they begin a relationship with somebody. That kind of ideal that people strive for does not really exist. If you can find the kind of love you're talking about with a woman, without the sex, then she is essentialy a friend and should be treated as such

Don't begin making assumptions about my opinions, though.
You stated that there was no love beyond the desire to have sex; upon elaboration you state that there are (at least) two kinds of love.
So;

1) There is nothing, as yet, stated that renders these two types of love mutually exclusive.

2) You cannot determine, without further inquiry, which type of love any particular person is referring to, at any given time.

Care to elaborate further?

[Honest Bill]

Don't begin making assumptions about my opinions, though.
You stated that there was no love beyond the desire to have sex; upon elaboration you state that there are (at least) two kinds of love.
So;

1) There is nothing, as yet, stated that renders these two types of love mutually exclusive.

2) You cannot determine, without further inquiry, which type of love any particular person is referring to, at any given time.

Care to elaborate further?

Yes, generally when someone is asking whether it is more important to have a relationship based on sex or love, they are talking about the kind that does not really exist. As you already pointed out, a realtionship is not necessary to achieve the other kind. It is the kind that can be shared between friends or family members. I don't think there are two kinds, i think there is only one kind.

The other thing that is generally mistaken for love, is a combination of imfatuation, lust, jealousy with a dash of egomania, it is not sustainable long term

[Damwa]

According to Freud, yes.

Yeah, I know; and that is at least a nicely consistent opinion - most people wouldn't want to "go there", though.
Personally, I think that Freud is both overrated and overly maligned. At any rate, I would speculate that Freud is not entirely wrong to suppose that different "forms" of affection all draw on the same (number of) "internal springs" for their fuel; but that is neither here nor there. - Except to say, that in this case (as well) there is a dissolution of the (seeming) contradiction between the feelings of affection and the absence of sexual expression; a lot of people have perfectly well-functioning relationships with parents, children, siblings and friends without ever having to "stick it in", and without experiencing any frustration over these "restrictions". Not saying anything about ideal(s), just trying to contemplate the implications of the possible assumptions.

[tazco]

Where is the none of the above option? I avoid women totaly and no im not gay. I just dont like their BS.

dont like either not gay so you must be 10??

[Damwa]

Yes, generally when someone is asking whether it is more important to have a relationship based on sex or love, they are talking about the kind that does not really exist. As you already pointed out, a realtionship is not necessary to achieve the other kind. It is the kind that can be shared between friends or family members. I don't think there are two kinds, i think there is only one kind.

The other thing that is generally mistaken for love, is a combination of imfatuation, lust, jealousy with a dash of egomania, it is not sustainable long term

That is the thing, though: it is rather "bold" of you to enter into a discourse with an overarching assumption, that when people state a preference or opinion; they must clearly be expected to intend the least sensible interpretation of that opinion possible.

I would, however, agree with you that there is a contemporary prevalence of a certain manner of conflation in regard to the issue. The thing is, however, that I believe it to be more a specific occurrence of a general conceptual "crossing of wires", than a misunderstanding specific to "love". I would also tend to opine, that it is *very much* a conflation of our time and culture, and not one generally held by all humans to all times, and not one generally associated (in this perspective) with what is widely (and commonly) predicated as "love".


Had a lot of coffee and soda and cake and cigarettes today.....

[Ubane]

Wam bam, thank you ma'am. ;)

[Honest Bill]

That is the thing, though: it is rather "bold" of you to enter into a discourse with an overarching assumption, that when people state a preference or opinion; they must clearly be expected to intend the least sensible interpretation of that opinion possible.

I would, however, agree with you that there is a contemporary prevalence of a certain manner of conflation in regard to the issue. The thing is, however, that I believe it to be more a specific occurrence of a general conceptual "crossing of wires", than a misunderstanding specific to "love". I would also tend to opine, that it is *very much* a conflation of our time and culture, and not one generally held by all humans to all times, and not one generally associated (in this perspective) with what is widely (and commonly) predicated as "love".


Had a lot of coffee and soda and cake and cigarettes today.....

Bold perhaps, but it is how i interpreted the OP's question. I have never been one to overestimate people's sensibilities. Particularly in matters pertaining to 'love'. If one is seeking love, then one must be careful to understand what love is. This 'platonic' kind that you brought to the table is what i would consider real love. The other kind, that i assume the OP is seeking, as i previously stated, does not exist in the form that most people believe it to. It is, in my opinion, a collection of various different emotions, which when acting in concert, is commonly mistaken for the real thing.

[Dirty l3um]

not gonna lie, if your marrying the woman you have GOT to have both. If you marry her and she loves you, she should put out at least 3 days a week... but you know, thats wishful thinking

[Spinewire]

The poll is silly as love with no sex is just friendship as somone said eariler.

If you say ahhh well then if you pick love then you get sex by default then -.- yea ok i pick love.

if your marrying the woman you have GOT to have both. agreed, also it's not as if it's wishfull thinking either...

[Damwa]

Bold perhaps, but it is how i interpreted the OP's question. I have never been one to overestimate people's sensibilities. Particularly in matters pertaining to 'love'. If one is seeking love, then one must be careful to understand what love is. This 'platonic' kind that you brought to the table is what i would consider real love. The other kind, that i assume the OP is seeking, as i previously stated, does not exist in the form that most people believe it to. It is, in my opinion, a collection of various different emotions, which when acting in concert, is commonly mistaken for the real thing.

At any rate, I would like to suggest that it is (to me) entirely credible that a great many people (over the age of e.g 30 or 40), when speaking of love in a relationship, really *do* mean the love of "friendship" in a relationship that in addition to this has (some) sexual aspect. That is; as people get older they are more prone to consider the potential duration of a relationship beyond the years of intense sexual "urges".
More specifically; I wasn't *entirely* joking in my first reply to the OP. If I had to be in a lifelong relationship with a woman, and had to choose sexual chemistry or love; I would always choose love. It is far more pleasant to spend time with someone you like and trust (but do not desire) than to spend time with someone you desire, but do not like or trust (as such). - And it is *always* an option to seek gratification elsewhere; regardless of the nature of your relationship.

*Shrugs*

[Spinewire]

At any rate, I would like to suggest that it is (to me) entirely credible that a great many people (over the age of e.g 30 or 40), when speaking of love in a relationship, really *do* mean the love of "friendship" in a relationship that in addition to this has (some) sexual aspect. That is; as people get older they are more prone to consider the potential duration of a relationship beyond the years of intense sexual "urges".
More specifically; I wasn't *entirely* joking in my first reply to the OP. If I had to be in a lifelong relationship with a woman, and had to choose sexual chemistry or love; I would always choose love. It is far more pleasant to spend time with someone you like and trust (but do not desire) than to spend time with someone you desire, but do not like or trust (as such). - And it is *always* an option to seek gratification elsewhere; regardless of the nature of your relationship.

*Shrugs*Have both or don't marry, sounds like you are justifing going out with a porker.

[Damwa]

Have both or don't marry, sounds like you are justifing going out with a porker.

Nope, I am trying to stipulate the reasoning of my "bid" within the boundaries of this hypothetical scenario.
You said it yourself; this poll is silly.

And incidentally; I never feel the need to justify my personal conduct - take that as you will. ;)

[GFH_Spike]

I would choose the sex. Having her as a temporary fuck buddy would be far better than love without sex. I consider it to be an integral part of an intimate relationship and could never be with a woman who doesn't share that belief.

[alfaroverall]

not gonna lie, if your marrying the woman you have GOT to have both. If you marry her and she loves you, she should put out at least 3 days a week... but you know, thats wishful thinking
3 days a week is a bit of a high expectation for throughout the marriage. Now, at the start, I might agree with you, but then I have a weird philosophy on marriage. Basically, for the sake of myself, the girl in question, and our potential children, it is my belief that people should live together for quite a long time (3-6 years imo) before getting married. At that point, 3 days a week seems like it might be a little high.

Now, really, if it's not happening at least twice a month, something is wrong in general. You're fucking up, she's being a bitch, or one or both of you is working too hard.

[pyrow]

I think its hilarious how people go to online gaming forums for relationship/love/sex help. Do you see the irony?

[alfaroverall]

I think its hilarious how people go to online gaming forums for relationship/love/sex help. Do you see the irony?
Old comment is old.

[Zeaph]

Love is a trick to help prolong the species through reproduction.

[Slaker]

With love comes the sex.

[Damwa]

Love is a trick to help prolong the species through reproduction.

Nice try, but wrong. Try again..

[alfaroverall]

Love is a trick to help prolong the species through reproduction.
That would be lust, since the evolutionary ideal would be for a few hundred men to impregnate millions upon millions of women. Love is actually bad, evolutionarily speaking.

[Damwa]

That would be lust, since the evolutionary ideal would be for a few hundred men to impregnate millions upon millions of women. Love is actually bad, evolutionarily speaking.

That wouldn't seem to work very well for humans and if it *would*, wouldn't it be the actual case?

[jordanleroux]

Sex is a physical thing, I know it exists, I enjoy it.

Love is a concept, how the fuck can it help me blow my load?

[Zeaph]

Looks like I was wrong about female gamers being nonexistent.. cause it seems most of you are women! hows it going ladies?

[rwp80]

Where is the none of the above option? I avoid women totaly and no im not gay. I just dont like their BS.

Baralis, Sir, you took the words right out of my mouth.

Besides, women get in the way of MMORPGs. I've seen PvE and PvP clans before, but never IHW clans (I-Have-a-Woman clans).
IHW clans play 1 hour every evening while Sex in the City is on, then most members log off halfway through a raid. IHW clans are inactive during the weekends, except for when she's out shopping with the girls.

Looks like I was wrong about female gamers being nonexistent.. cause it seems most of you are women! hows it going ladies?

ROFL well put

[alfaroverall]

That wouldn't seem to work very well for humans and if it *would*, wouldn't it be the actual case?
1. Envision a hunter-gatherer society, which is what we evolved to do. Granted, for this you have to reduce the numbers down a bit, but you see what I mean here. You have men going out to hunt and dying in the process at times, lowering the male: female ratio, and you have women bearing children and gathering to yield the majority of the food. A situation like this is conducive to a small number of men who impregnate a large number of women.
2. Humans don't follow our evolutionary ideal. We're about the only species that doesn't.

[iza]

Where is the none of the above option? I avoid women totaly and no im not gay. I just dont like their BS.
Baralis, Sir, you took the words right out of my mouth.

Besides, women get in the way of MMORPGs. I've seen PvE and PvP clans before, but never IHW clans (I-Have-a-Woman clans).
IHW clans play 1 hour every evening while Sex in the City is on, then most members log off halfway through a raid. IHW clans are inactive during the weekends, except for when she's out shopping with the girls.
Enjoy your depressing, bland, empty lives. Excuse me while I go get some poontang.

[Damwa]

1. Envision a hunter-gatherer society, which is what we evolved to do. Granted, for this you have to reduce the numbers down a bit, but you see what I mean here. You have men going out to hunt and dying in the process at times, lowering the male: female ratio, and you have women bearing children and gathering to yield the majority of the food. A situation like this is conducive to a small number of men who impregnate a large number of women.
2. Humans don't follow our evolutionary ideal. We're about the only species that doesn't.

The ratio (between men and women) in this case would be far, far, far lower than what you suggested. I also believe that the mortality rate of men relative to women would be much lower than you seem to imagine (in such a state as you suggest, there would be *many* factors contributing the mortality rate of fertile individuals, and most of them would be "equal opportunity" with quite a few favouring women. It is, in fact, the case that the longer average life span of women, as compared to men, *isn't* a constant throughout history).
Plus; there is no such thing as an "evolutionary ideal" - nature has no ideals. As the settings changed, so did we; it is all part of the game. Had we *not* changed, we would not be *more* "successful", but *less*.
That is my (somewhat speculative) opinion, at least.

[rwp80]

Enjoy your depressing, bland, empty lives. Excuse me while I go get some poontang.

At what price? Your freedom? Hey, it's your choice, your tradeoff.

I'm old. I dont do the whole 'poontang' thing anymore, although I never used a word like 'poontang' because only gaylords say 'poontang', except during this sentence.

Good luck with your intercourse. Let us know how it went.

[Helgeran]

Yeah, I know; and that is at least a nicely consistent opinion - most people wouldn't want to "go there", though.
Personally, I think that Freud is both overrated and overly maligned. At any rate, I would speculate that Freud is not entirely wrong to suppose that different "forms" of affection all draw on the same (number of) "internal springs" for their fuel; but that is neither here nor there. - Except to say, that in this case (as well) there is a dissolution of the (seeming) contradiction between the feelings of affection and the absence of sexual expression; a lot of people have perfectly well-functioning relationships with parents, children, siblings and friends without ever having to "stick it in", and without experiencing any frustration over these "restrictions". Not saying anything about ideal(s), just trying to contemplate the implications of the possible assumptions.
The biggest problem with any and all of Freuds works is that he bases it on assumptions and wishful thinking instead of empirical data.

[Vanno]

Love might end up costing you 50%, sex maybe the HIVs and a few hundred.

[jordanleroux]

Love might end up costing you 50%, sex maybe the HIVs and a few hundred.

If you play it right, It only costs you carpal tunnel and arthritis.

[Vessol]

I'm asexual/heterosexual so I don't have much of a sex drive to begin with, however I am romantically attracted to a very small percentage of women. I can't say I've ever been sexually attracted to a woman, ever.

[Helgeran]

I'm asexual/heterosexual so I don't have much of a sex drive to begin with, however I am romantically attracted to a very small percentage of women. I can't say I've ever been sexually attracted to a woman, ever.
Sounds like you'll have lots of time to get really skilled at some hobby.

[MindOverSword]

Although sx is awesome and always remain so, it eventually becomes impossible for it to be/remain one's main goal/drive in life.

I believe strongly that lovers should be best best friends with hugs... So Love > Sex.

[rwp80]

Sounds like you'll have lots of time to get really skilled at some hobby.

ROFL!!!!11:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Vessol]

Sounds like you'll have lots of time to get really skilled at some hobby.

I don't think Forumfall really cares to know, but I masturbate on average twice a week, my sex drive is not that strong. And I'm not currently in a relationship, but had sex whenever my partner wanted to in my last two relationships.

[Viluin]

I don't think Forumfall really cares to know, but I masturbate on average twice a week, my sex drive is not that strong. And I'm not currently in a relationship, but had sex whenever my partner wanted to in my last two relationships.

What do you masturbate to?

[Vessol]

What do you masturbate to?

I tried porn, but it really does nothing to me. I can usually get off by just focusing my energy on my organ and of course doing as most guys do, shut off my mind and stimulate my body. As for sex with my past girlfriends, the romantic attachment for them fueled me plus wanting to make them enjoy it, I really can't say I lusted after them.

[Viluin]

I tried porn, but it really does nothing to me. I can usually get off by just focusing my energy on my organ and of course doing as most guys do, shut off my mind and stimulate my body. As for sex with my past girlfriends, the romantic attachment for them fueled me, I really can't say I lusted after them.

Wow. You masturbate to nothing? That's madness!

[alfaroverall]

Wow. You masturbate to nothing? That's madness!
Quite doable, at least in the evenings.

Anyway, Vessol, you may want to get checked psychologically. You may not think that is a problem, but that sounds like a bit of a problem with the wiring of your brain that could potentially become more severe.

Also ibtl at this rate.

[Vessol]

Wow. You masturbate to nothing? That's madness!

Well sometimes I masturbate to Sparta.

...

And it's hard to describe, it's more emotions. You know how when you do get in that mood and that energy you have? You can learn to stimulate yourself on that. I still have a biological sex drive, all animals do, but I really have no sexual attractions or desires for females or males.

[rwp80]

Wow. You masturbate to nothing? That's madness!

The thread started off about sex and love, but lo and behold, you've nosedived to masturbation.

[Vessol]

Quite doable, at least in the evenings.

Anyway, Vessol, you may want to get checked psychologically. You may not think that is a problem, but that sounds like a bit of a problem with the wiring of your brain that could potentially become more severe.

Also ibtl at this rate.

No. Asexual is actually rare, but it is not something dangerous. Most people just hide it and don't admit to it. In real life I don't let others no I'm asexual. I come off as a normal, albeit sexually reserved, heterosexual man.

[Viluin]

Well sometimes I masturbate to Sparta.

...

And it's hard to describe, it's more emotions. You know how when you do get in that mood and that energy you have? You can learn to stimulate yourself on that. I still have a biological sex drive, all animals do, but I really have no sexual attractions or desires for females or males.

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The thread started off about sex and love, but lo and behold, you've nosedived to masturbation.


I'm surprised it took this long, tbh.

[alfaroverall]

No. Asexual is actually rare, but it is not something dangerous. Most people just hide it and don't admit to it. In real life I don't let others no I'm asexual. I come off as a normal, albeit sexually reserved, heterosexual man.
By its very nature this is a psychological error. Humans have a fundamental desire to satisfy our basic urges, of which sex is one. Even homosexuals do, even though they choose a somewhat abnormal way to do it. So asexuality is, at some level, a flaw. I would still encourage you to get yourself checked. Not because you have a low sex drive (which, though I would call it an error, isn't really a bad thing), but because it's entirely possible that you have some other latent flaw that you don't know about.

Coming off as something you're not is actually just one example of this; this is the first of a long list of steps to reaching sociopathy.

[Vessol]

By its very nature this is a psychological error. Humans have a fundamental desire to satisfy our basic urges, of which sex is one. Even homosexuals do, even though they choose a somewhat abnormal way to do it. So asexuality is, at some level, a flaw. I would still encourage you to get yourself checked. Not because you have a low sex drive (which, though I would call it an error, isn't really a bad thing), but because it's entirely possible that you have some other latent flaw that you don't know about.

Coming off as something you're not is actually just one example of this; this is the first of a long list of steps to reaching sociopathy.

Actually asexuality has been observed in animals. There is nothing flawed about it. It just recently has become even known with people stepping out and admitting to it, until now most people either ignored it or concluded it didn't exist.

[alfaroverall]

Actually asexuality has been observed in animals. There is nothing flawed about it. It just recently has become even known with people stepping out and admitting to it, until now most people either ignored it or concluded it didn't exist.
Observation in animals doesn't make it normal. Animals have the same sorts of congenital problems that we do, it's just that they usually die before reaching adulthood if they do.

Regarding your edit: no I don't think you're a sociopath, but pretending to be someone you're not is by its very nature the first step to sociopathy. I thought my post made it pretty clear that there were a lot more steps to cross, but evidently you missed that. And I don't think you "must" be sick in the head. I think there's a decent chance that you are (since this could very well be caused by an issue in your limbic system that could have other, much worse repercussions), but that more likely than not you've just got a minor abnormality.

[Vessol]

Observation in animals doesn't make it normal. Animals have the same sorts of congenital problems that we do, it's just that they usually die before reaching adulthood if they do.

So I'm on the way to becoming a sociopath because I hide the fact I'm asexual? I do it to avoid people giving me strange looks and discriminating against me, I already told a few people in RL and they reacted just like you.
"OMG you must be sick in the head! You need to get it checked out!"

[thecozmicfool]

i chose love, you can always have sex with your hand but you cant love it

[Mippoose]

I am an elitist.

'Nuff said.

[Spinewire]

Well sometimes I masturbate to Sparta.

...

And it's hard to describe, it's more emotions. You know how when you do get in that mood and that energy you have? You can learn to stimulate yourself on that. I still have a biological sex drive, all animals do, but I really have no sexual attractions or desires for females or males.
sucks to be you


You my friend need to venture into the world of the hardcore, normal not cutting it for you? Try dripping hot wax on your helmet or pretend to be a lamp shade for 8 hours. If you boat is still not floated then come round mine and i can turn you into a nullo for only £599, i will even put you in glass box and shit on it for you, free of charge.

[Bamboopanda]

We were all drunk, nothing happened according to all, I don't talk to the shithead anymore after that and she says she's still interested. Hell, why not give it a try?

Because they just told you that you are a mark. And you know it.

"According" to all means that they fucked like rabits and she doesnt want to admit that to you because you are a pussy and easy mark. Even thinking of getting back together with someone who left you to nail the bigger stud means you are shit. Grow up, grow a pair, and realize that there are a dozen women you pass by and meet every week who are willing to spread em for you, you just need to act.

She is not all that great, nothing you said sounds like she is even worth thinking about at this point. And its rather obvious that YOU know what is up, you are just not quite confident enough to tell yourself the truth. Don't be that guy that is pussy whipped, your former 'friend' sure as hell isnt. Or else she would still be with him because she wanted him, and he didnt want her as a steady lay.

BTW, don't listen to me, get back together with her so that in six months or a year you can come back and cry on the forums and we can get a good laugh at your expense. Your woman is not disinterested in sex, she just isnt into it with you.

[Kusghuul]

Balls to the wall; no love = no sex. You'd go for both.

[Bamboopanda]

Yes. You can become a p-whipped little nancy boy, trapped in a dead end job to pay for her white picket fence.

Not bitter. Not bitter.

Fuck that, be bitter, it is a lot more fun. Especially if you use it as a great excuse to never get married again, just hide it untill after you nailed em a few times.

Edit: Am i the ONLY one here who noticed that the op was asking us for permission to get back together with this chick? I could read the 'Should I get back together to have sex(once in a long while)?' Or 'Should I get back together and pretend to be in-love because I am insecure and lonely?'

Maybe I am imagining it. But he needs to find some other girl and nail her all night long. I can guarantee he wouldn't ask this question the next day.

[Eternalsinner]

sofar the sex ive had was better with love.

so i choose love.


no risk, no reward. amirite!?

[Vehementi]

The answer is there are tons of women out there. Go find one that has both.

[Lethn]

Has anyone else noticed there's a disturbing amount of pathetic can't-decide-anything-for-themselves guys posting on forumfall lately?

And I thought I was bad for just not having a girlfriend yet :eek:

[Spart]

Wow, I'm surpised. I thought everyone would be voting sex just because of who these guys are.

I picked love btw. Much more meaningful than sex in any relationship.

Yea, I figured sex would be winning.

Lethn, I don't think he is asking us to decide what to do, but to ask our opinion. If he wanted our opinion, there would be an option saying "Just stay the fuck away from her".

[Xtra-Medium]

sex cuz uhh love will just leave you hurt and destroyed sex will leave you satisfied

[Curcio]

Sex IS love. It can just be sort of short sometimes... :D

[Lioness]

Has anyone else noticed there's a disturbing amount of pathetic can't-decide-anything-for-themselves guys posting on forumfall lately?

And I thought I was bad for just not having a girlfriend yet :eek:

Well I hear ClownFoot gives great blowjobs and is single, good luck!

But seriously: Sex lasts for like 30-45 minutes, and that's with a REALLY good guy... With most guys it would be about 5-10 minutes and then they would stop caring because they have already... :rolleyes:

However, love can last forever.

[alfaroverall]

Well I hear ClownFoot gives great blowjobs and is single, good luck!

But seriously: Sex lasts for like 30-45 minutes, and that's with a REALLY good guy... With most guys it would be about 5-10 minutes and then they would stop caring because they have already... :rolleyes:

However, love can last forever.
You've found guys with whom sex, not counting foreplay, lasts for 45 minutes? Is that even biologically possible?

[Lioness]

You've found guys with whom sex, not counting foreplay, lasts for 45 minutes? Is that even biologically possible?

No, I was leaving room for miracle men who I have not met yet. More realistically the top I have reached with a guy is about half an hour...

If you counted foreplay then gosh, I've gone much higher than 45 minutes.

Okay... Let's NOT turn this into a thread about my sex life...

On topic: Love > Sex.

[Zadok]

I tried porn, but it really does nothing to me. I can usually get off by just focusing my energy on my organ and of course doing as most guys do, shut off my mind and stimulate my body. As for sex with my past girlfriends, the romantic attachment for them fueled me plus wanting to make them enjoy it, I really can't say I lusted after them.

WHAT THE FUCK

/quits forumfall after 7 years.

[Lethn]

No, I was leaving room for miracle men who I have not met yet. More realistically the top I have reached with a guy is about half an hour...

If you counted foreplay then gosh, I've gone much higher than 45 minutes.

Okay... Let's NOT turn this into a thread about my sex life...

On topic: Love > Sex.

No no, do go on *brings up wordpad as he types* :rolleyes: lol

[Xtra-Medium]

No, I was leaving room for miracle men who I have not met yet. More realistically the top I have reached with a guy is about half an hour...

If you counted foreplay then gosh, I've gone much higher than 45 minutes.

Okay... Let's NOT turn this into a thread about my sex life...

On topic: Love > Sex.

wait a minuet..... a real female on forumfall?

[Zadok]

wait a minuet..... a real female on forumfall?

no way its another asexual thing.

[Vanno]

No, I was leaving room for miracle men who I have not met yet. More realistically the top I have reached with a guy is about half an hour...

If you counted foreplay then gosh, I've gone much higher than 45 minutes.

Okay... Let's NOT turn this into a thread about my sex life...

On topic: Love > Sex.

Funny story. A girl-friend of mine (not in the sexual sense, but a friend who is a girl) was briefly with a guy who never seemed to be able to 'reach a conclussion.' He would just be humping for what seemed like forever, and she'd actually get bored with him. Reminded me of the 'Wrap it up' skit on Chappelle show.

[Death's Chill]

You've found guys with whom sex, not counting foreplay, lasts for 45 minutes? Is that even biologically possible?

I've kept my hard on for like two hours the other day. :ohno:

I assume if you cum; it shrivels up.. fortunately that doesn't happen easily for me so I guess long sex sessions are quite possible for me. Quality over quantity prevails, yet again. :D

Funny story. A girl-friend of mine (not in the sexual sense, but a friend who is a girl) was briefly with a guy who never seemed to be able to 'reach a conclussion.' He would just be humping for what seemed like forever, and she'd actually get bored with him. Reminded me of the 'Wrap it up' skit on Chappelle show.

Exactly what I think would happen with me, to be honest. I can't empty my load easily. It's a blessing and a curse simultaneously.

[Vanno]

Well, if it is any consolation; I think her displeasure had more to do with the guy just not being very good.

[Death's Chill]

I suppose it makes sense, but I guess there really is a point where too much sex is just too much sex. Fortunately I like to... spice things up in that area, so I doubt things would ever get boring. :)

[Pcheez]

Sex.

love is for silly bitching manginas that are the result of today's shitty cosmopolitan upbringing.

Believing yourself to be in love is simply delusional.

[emasame]

definitely sex, i can love dudes i just dont love them sexually
ill be bold and state my opinion that the main purpose of women is to be dolls.
aside from that most chicks are batshit crazy.

[Viare]

So while I made my sandwiches recently, I started thinking about this girl I might start to date (we've been dating before, and she ran away with a friend of mine, who no longer is my friend, but that's another story). Well the thing is I don't think she's very into sex, but more of the girl that isn't the random slut you meet. She's an interesting woman and I'd definately date her if I knew I'd get sex at least once per week.


Lol, so lemme get this straight, she ran away with a friend of yours in a previous attempt... but shes not the random slut.

My friend theres billions of other fine ladies to take the last name out there, DONT DO IT!!!!!! well i mean have sex with her, but i mean comon.. "date" her... puahaha no WAY

[Helgeran]

I don't think Forumfall really cares to know, but I masturbate on average twice a week, my sex drive is not that strong. And I'm not currently in a relationship, but had sex whenever my partner wanted to in my last two relationships.
My post was dead honest, chasing poon and maintaining relationships take a shitload of time.

[jonyak]

I suppose it makes sense, but I guess there really is a point where too much sex is just too much sex. Fortunately I like to... spice things up in that area, so I doubt things would ever get boring. :)

aren't you an 18 year old virgin?

what are you doing talking about sex.

have you ever even touched a titty yet boy?

[Zeaph]

I could only ever have a child with a person I loved to be honest.

<--- Still searching for someone I can put up with for the next 50 years tho.

[Pcheez]

Im cursed with too much endurance, its really irritating.

i require oral sex skills beyond mortal comprehension to get close to getting off.

[Viluin]

Im cursed with too much endurance, its really irritating.

i require oral sex skills beyond mortal comprehension to get close to getting off.

I'm heading in the same direction. It's because of all the freaky and awesome porn I've watched.

[Tiarilir]

I'm heading in the same direction. It's because of all the freaky and awesome porn I've watched.

Same, lol!

[jonyak]

Im cursed with too much endurance, its really irritating.

i require oral sex skills beyond mortal comprehension to get close to getting off.

wow... that sucks...

I can usualy last as long as I want, but I have a freaky ability to cum when I want to as well.

[Damwa]

This thread has taken an unexpected and subtly ****-erotic turn. I will just leave you guys to it, then...

[Zwarp]

MULTIPLE CHOICE ftw.

[DeathByCactus]

Love, it is harder to get.

[Damwa]

MULTIPLE CHOICE ftw.

This is "multiple choice", though..

[Mr.LichTwitch]

Sex for me. I don't like commitment, don't like sharing my money, and don't want kids. I sure love sex though, and when I'm old and rich I'll be able to get some young piece of ass instead of being stuck with some wrinkled old hag like the rest of you :D At worst I'll be alone, fapping with my cialis for 36 hours at a time. It still beats fucking some old hag that expects me to fuck her just because I have magic boner pills.

[Red Morgan]

No, I was leaving room for miracle men who I have not met yet.

I think I need to introduce you to the DBC wenching program.

[warriorswar]

sex with love is better than sex only so i vote love.

[pointblank]

wow why would u ask a big group of nerds? Lets face it mmo nerds are the nerdiest of the nerds.

[Xtra-Medium]

I've kept my hard on for like two hours the other day. :ohno:

I assume if you cum; it shrivels up.. fortunately that doesn't happen easily for me so I guess long sex sessions are quite possible for me. Quality over quantity prevails, yet again. :D



Exactly what I think would happen with me, to be honest. I can't empty my load easily. It's a blessing and a curse simultaneously.
i heard somewhere that when they circumcise you it messes up your nerves maybe this happened to you and you don't get much pleasure thats why its hard to get off

[holychicken]

Where is the none of the above option? I avoid women totaly and no im not gay. I just dont like their BS.
By "avoid" you mean "am avoided by," right?

[holychicken]

Answer to the OP is simple. I steady flow of good sex or a steady flow of good love, the choice is clear. I can't believe it is actually LOSING at this point.

[alhazred]

So while I made my sandwiches recently, I started thinking about this girl I might start to date (we've been dating before, and she ran away with a friend of mine, who no longer is my friend, but that's another story). Well the thing is I don't think she's very into sex, but more of the girl that isn't the random slut you meet. She's an interesting woman and I'd definately date her if I knew I'd get sex at least once per week.

Now most of us are men, and I'd like to know what you'd choose.
The sex or the love? You can't have both, because that's obviously overpowered. And if you do have both, what would you pick if you couldn't have both?

Anyways. Poll incoming.



wtf once a week that is it

dude you settle for to little

[Tiarilir]

wtf once a week that is it

dude you settle for to little

I settle for reality.

[holychicken]

I settle for reality.
I have been dating my gf for about 10 years now and I can count on one hand the number of times she has turned me down for sex. I have turned her down WAY more.

It ain't reality for all women.

[Somarl]

Mmmmm sex OR love.

I choose both. At the same time. In a bus stop. Next to a tramp being violently sick. While her parents watch.

[Killuminati]

Sex...I'm not at the age where I give a shit about love yet.

[Thaeds]

Where is the none of the above option? I avoid women totaly and no im not gay. I just dont like their BS.

How old are you?

[Thaeds]

1. Envision a hunter-gatherer society, which is what we evolved to do. Granted, for this you have to reduce the numbers down a bit, but you see what I mean here. You have men going out to hunt and dying in the process at times, lowering the male: female ratio, and you have women bearing children and gathering to yield the majority of the food. A situation like this is conducive to a small number of men who impregnate a large number of women.
2. Humans don't follow our evolutionary ideal. We're about the only species that doesn't.

Men aren't hunting tigers and dinosaurs, they generally hunted large plant eating animals (mostly, depends exactly where and when I guess). Dangerous? Sometimes. Child birth is a fucking bitch though and claimed many more lives.

There were more men than woman in pre-civilized times. The scales changed a bit when war became popular, as it was significantly more dangerous than hunting animals.

Wow. You masturbate to nothing? That's madness!

I usually only masterbate twice a month or so, but I did eight times in one day once... I actually did about 45 minutes ago while reading about the $700 billion dollar bailout plan being rejected. It didn't turn me on or anything, I just felt like multitasking... I'm not kidding btw, anyone else do this?

[Forgivance]

I put love, but why limit yourself? If you have one but not the other...than think outside the box...get lotion, an artifical vagina, or just stick with the one you love, but stick the one that'll let you, like most other dudes.

[MinusInnocence]

Haha, love is winning. What a bunch of sappy clowns.

[Forgivance]

Of course "love" is...you cannot get that since of devotion and trust just anywhere....

But even with love, yuo can get whores anywhere.

[Kietharr]

You won't get anything lasting out of sex

Herpes is the gift that keeps on giving.

[Odie]

I'd take the sex... You can always buy love!

[Jangang]

I'm surprised by the results.

I can love myself... And do.

I can't really have sex w/ myself. Sure I can slide the celery a bit, but that's not really the same as sex.