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Squamp
09-21-2008, 06:01 PM
"The forest was silent, but for the slight stirring of the wind. Rays of light penetrated the branches, reaching out to illumine the vegatated surface of the earth. Crouching in a bristling bushhid two friends, tired and waiting for unwary by-passers to provide them with the supplies and equipment needed to survive the hard land, world, and society.

The rustling leaves and the sharp snal of a branch under a hoof from far away brought the two men out of the trance that they had developped during the long waits to help time pass on with having a reduced toll on their body and mind. Peering from his cover, one of them looked to take note of the numbers, equipment and grace of the distant figures.. His companion, prespiring from anticipation, slowly began to calculate the risks as he saw his friend signal the number as 4 well armed warriors.

The man who checked turned back and glanced at the sky blue eyes of the one before him and saw that he too was aware of the possible outcome. He signaled "Retreat?", though to his surprise, his friend simply shook his head and pointed at his bow. Understanding the risks, he reluctantly agreed, knowing that they would be relying utterly on surprise.

Sticking to the shadows, the blue eyed man crawled from his cover to the one of a tree, careful not to make a sound. Twisting his head around, he checked to see how far the unalert victims were. The horses whiping out their tails while the companions talked amongst themselves, oblivious to the upcoming event, with only a few more steps until they would would be in the trap. Muffling the rasping sound with his body, he drew his swords, planning to place it against the moss covered base of the tree, however just as the tip of the blade came free, it briefly passed the safety of the shade, the brilliant light of the sun reflecting off the shiny silver coating, and going directly into the eye of one of the men. Quickly realising his mistake, the blue eyed man picked up his bow and pulled on the string, but it was too late, and the damage was done."

When the developers added the light reflection in this game, it added to it what I believe is a form of dimension in games of this type. It also means you have to be aware or more, and it adds to the risks. It might also end up like the story above.

My idea is to add in the possibilty to paint your own equipment, for multiple reasons.

Why?
1. You are in the situation above. You have to be discreet and stealthful, which means you cant afford to lose it all because of something like that. Painting your weapon or armor in darker colors might prevent sun reflection.
2. You know you will be in a situation where you will have to get in and out without a trace. For that, you will need to blend in, whether it be the greens of the forest, the black of the night, the yellow and greens of the fields, or the greys of the city.

Having that ability, you will start thinking more strategically, and plan out more to fit your needs. It will also make it more of a challenge to those on the other side of the scale, though it can also mean that they too can use those advantages to reverse the tables, as well as adding a fun reality factor.

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Like , it could be that this has been brought up before, but if so, I have not seen anything official about it yet.

Feel free to argue against it, for it, or whatever you want, since that it what I believe keeps good threads alive, as well as the purpose of forums.
[url]http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=69906 (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=69906my other thread)

IthroZada
09-21-2008, 06:12 PM
Or instead of painting you can go for the natural look and roll in the mud, that's the first thing i would do if i was being chased and I was wearing shiny armor, heck mud would even muffle the clinking noise.

Ababoba
09-21-2008, 06:15 PM
You can paint pre-set colours and symbols/logos on your equipment. The reason you can't paint whatever you want is that then we would see people running around with "L0LR0FLH4HAPWNT" painted in pink on their armor.

Edit: And no, I couldn't be arsed to read that whole wall of text. Sorry.

Owachi
09-21-2008, 06:17 PM
You can paint pre-set colours and symbols/logos on your equipment. The reason you can't paint whatever you want is that then we would see people running around with "L0LR0FLH4HAPWNT" painted in pink on their armor.

Edit: And no, I couldn't be arsed to read that whole wall of text. Sorry.

Ditto.

IthroZada
09-21-2008, 06:24 PM
In all honesty I didn't read the whole story either, but I did make sure to look for your point, and do agree that painting armor would make for great strategic advantage, and even if someone does paint their armor bright pink:
Gank (in my newly camouflaged armor)
Loot
Delete

Beorg
09-21-2008, 06:30 PM
Ditto.

Aye. If I wanted to read another generic Roleplaying post, I would.

Bolter
09-21-2008, 06:35 PM
Didn't the devs say there IS paint for your armor?

Xarthas
09-21-2008, 06:35 PM
I think that there will be armor/cloth painting just like in UO, but i wouldn´t bet for weapon painting.

Henu989
09-21-2008, 06:37 PM
Didn't the devs say there IS paint for your armor?
Players may also dye clothes and armor and they can carry their clan's colors for extra customization to their appearance.
Yup they did.

IthroZada
09-21-2008, 06:49 PM
He is talking about full blown camo gear though, not just customization.

pfea
09-21-2008, 06:50 PM
u shold se blood on a whepon when its ben used and u hafe to clean it of in whater or somthing it whold b relly cool

sorros
09-21-2008, 06:52 PM
id rather just have that available for cloth and other such armor/clothing, not plate/mail...those should only be affected by what ore you use.

I would rather not see a bunch of Mahirim in Savage Alliance running around in pink plate armor with bright green swords.

Squamp
09-21-2008, 07:51 PM
The story was more for an attention grabber/example of how it would be useful, but yes, I was afraid it might have been too much :(

I forgot about the already existing armor painting, so sorry about that (but then again, there's a possibility that if it's made in that color, it'll still be shiny, which might still be problematic for ambushes.
I originally thought of making it weapons, mainly, but then also added the armor category to allow it to be more general.

IthroZada: That too, would be an option, but for mud you need also water + dirt (to make it possible to cover your armor in it), so I had a feeling that simply painting them would be a more logical choice for the developpers.

Girth
09-21-2008, 07:56 PM
I got one sentence into the story and smells boring rp and skimmed to the next posts which basically verified my assumption. If you want colored armor/weapons make it our of an ore that has color they probably exist.

Squamp
09-21-2008, 08:00 PM
I got one sentence into the story and smells boring rp and skimmed to the next posts which basically verified my assumption. If you want colored armor/weapons make it our of an ore that has color they probably exist.

The point isnt to have "colored weapons", it's to have weapons that fit with the environment. Making it out of the ore might help with the coloring, however it doesnt cover the light reflection (which was my main reason for writing this up).

As I said about the story, I wrote it to be an attention grabber/example of its use.
I also put it in quotation marks, so if it doesnt interest you, you can simply start reading after the point that the story ends.

Girth
09-21-2008, 08:04 PM
The point isnt to have "colored weapons", it's to have weapons that fit with the environment. Making it out of the ore might help with the coloring, however it doesnt cover the light reflection (which was my main reason for writing this up).

As I said about the story, I wrote it to be an attention grabber/example of its use.
I also put it in quotation marks, so if it doesn't interest you, you can simply start reading after the point that the story ends.

That also defeats the whole purpose of the dev's making it a point to have weapons/armor reflective, to then introduce something that completely negates something they put time and effort into to begin with.

This is forumfall. If the post seems to long or not worthy of reading its just bypassed. You should've made a tl:dr version underneath if that was the case its alot more likely to get read while bypassing the post.

Squamp
09-21-2008, 09:20 PM
That also defeats the whole purpose of the dev's making it a point to have weapons/armor reflective, to then introduce something that completely negates something they put time and effort into to begin with.

This is forumfall. If the post seems to long or not worthy of reading its just bypassed. You should've made a tl:dr version underneath if that was the case its alot more likely to get read while bypassing the post.

When I wrote it, it didnt seem so long.

It doesnt defeat the purpose, since it will be used specifically for ambushes and stealth (which obviously doesnt take up the whole game). Those who forget/arent prepared in those situations (the light gives them away) then they suffer the consequences, just like reality. You dont have to use dyed weapons when going walking through a city.

JackyD
09-21-2008, 09:27 PM
1st off if you want to be stealthy you will also not want to do any noise so wearing anything made out of some metal will not be your wisest choice for armor.

Now seeing as studded leather and lighter armor will not be shiny and sparkling like some polished metal there really is no need for you to pint your armor to be less reflective.

Uldaur
09-21-2008, 09:31 PM
use some flecktarn

Squamp
09-21-2008, 09:39 PM
There's always that risk/benefit factor.

I guess I should have made it clearer that I was more focused on the weapons, rather than the armor (I guess the only way to have seen was from my story, and even then it would have been using quite a lot of assumptions, and looked illogial)
I appologize for that mistake.

Woodiwood
09-21-2008, 09:53 PM
You can dye weapons in DAoC, so why shouldn't it be a viable option in Darkfall. It's not that hard to do, but all up to the developers.

I for one would like weapon dye.

Dullard
09-21-2008, 11:05 PM
Hopefully you could put weaponblack on a weapon to prevent glare.

HawksBrigade
09-21-2008, 11:06 PM
MMORPG.com: There seems to be a lot of talk about the customization of characters in Darkfall. Can you tell us a little about how players can create individuals and not all look the same?

Tasos Flambouras: Character customization starts at the character creator stage. Players can pick their race from Darkfall's six main races, each of which has a male and a female character to choose from. Then they can select their face, the hair style and color, skin color and tone, facial hair, tattoos, piercing and facial jewelry, and various other accessories.

During the progress of the game, players can choose to add or remove facial hair, change their hair style, and dye their hair. They can also add or remove piercings and skin decorations.

There is a very large variety of clothing, armors, and robes available and the pieces can be mixed and matched to create an endless variation. There has been an effort to preserve racial identity. The same type of armor won't look identical on all races. Each race will make small modifications and customizations to fit their identity. Players may also dye clothes and armor and they can carry their clan's colors for extra customization to their appearance.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?g...ure=733&bhcp=1

So far I haven't found anything related to "colouring weapons".

Muse
09-21-2008, 11:41 PM
You will be able to alter the color of your equipment, no need to write a fan-fiction novel about it, ya nerd.

Froed
09-21-2008, 11:42 PM
You can paint pre-set colours and symbols/logos on your equipment. The reason you can't paint whatever you want is that then we would see people running around with "L0LR0FLH4HAPWNT" painted in pink on their armor.

Edit: And no, I couldn't be arsed to read that whole wall of text. Sorry.

not for sure~