Darkfall a World of Warcraft killer

[Nunda]

I don't think it will. but I hope it does, but not for the reasons you might think. I know DF doesn’t need to kill WoW to be successful, all they need to do deliver their promises and I’m sure they’ll be plenty successful. And I don’t hate WoW, I respect and admire WoW, WoW has helped the MMO industry in every aspect possible, it has dramatically increased the player base making it more likely for new MMOs to succeed, and making them more profitable. WoW is a shining example of how a good level based MMO should be, and copy cats have translated the formula beautifully, giving the player base a diverse choice intuitive MMOs!

So Why do I want Darkfall to be a WoW killer? Because I want Darkfall to do to the MMO industry, what WoW did to it, I want more games with the DF formula, I want choices, and I know Blizzard will want to stay on top. Imagine, a Starcraft MMO with the DF formula…

[Aragoni]

Can't people just SHUT THE FUCK UP about all these "WoW-killers"? :bang:
Nothing will kill WoW within 2 years. Nothing. Blizzard has too many fanboys.

[Forgin]

Darkfall can't kill WoW, I can compete with it at best.
The games are completely different.

[Killuminati]

Lol, just look at EVE.

[angelfang]

And LoTRO, and WAR. Granted they are not spectacular games, but powerful enough in name and reputation yet still shot down and pissed on by the WoW fanboi brigade.

[Tzacharu]

It would be nice if Darkfall can be the WoW killer, but I don't think it will happen. Everyone has just been spoon-fed the same shitty game with a new name for the last 8 years that its too late to turn back. If WoW is killed, it will kill itself.

[Thoric]

WoW will keep on living and thank god it will keep the biggest portion of retard MMO players there.

[verlox2]

WoW will keep on living and thank god it will keep the biggest portion of retard MMO players there.

QFT

[kiasta]

I hope so, but not for the reasons you might think. I know DF doesn’t need to kill WoW to be successful, all they need to do deliver their promises and I’m sure they’ll be plenty successful. And I don’t hate WoW, I respect and admire WoW, WoW has helped the MMO industry in every aspect possible, it has dramatically increased the player base making it more likely for new MMOs to succeed, and making them more profitable. WoW is a shining example of how a good level based MMO should be, and copy cats have translated the formula beautifully, giving the player base a diverse choice intuitive MMOs!

So Why do I want Darkfall to be a WoW killer? Because I want Darkfall to do to the MMO industry, what WoW did to it, I want more games with the DF formula, I want choices, and I know Blizzard will want to stay on top. Imagine, a Starcraft MMO with the DF formula…

Starcraft game with the DF formula? Well for one starcraft is online play and 2 it would not work at all because there were no level systems like warcraft in starcraft there is just plain strategy.

[iza]

What is this crap doing in my OT?


And no, DF won't kill wow. Nobody cares.

[Aragoni]

WoW will keep on living and thank god it will keep the biggest portion of retard MMO players there.

So a person is a retard for staying with World Of Warcraft when Darkfall, a game which almost no one has played and thus don't know shit if it's good or not, is released? What if Darkfall is a bug-ridden piece of trash?

To each of his own. If someone enjoys World Of Warcraft much more then Darkfall then so be it. Let them enjoy it. Elitist prick.

[rendelgrendel]

Darkfall isn't trying to kill that peice of shit. It's an insult to even say Darkfall would give a shit about that crap because that implies Darkfall is going for those demographics and has modeled their game to those demographics.

For the record: 75% of users in that peice of shit are chinese gold farmers so why the fuck do assholes keep saying it's the place with the biggest pop.

[Kietharr]

I hope so, but not for the reasons you might think. I know DF doesn’t need to kill WoW to be successful, all they need to do deliver their promises and I’m sure they’ll be plenty successful. And I don’t hate WoW, I respect and admire WoW, WoW has helped the MMO industry in every aspect possible, it has dramatically increased the player base making it more likely for new MMOs to succeed, and making them more profitable. WoW is a shining example of how a good level based MMO should be, and copy cats have translated the formula beautifully, giving the player base a diverse choice intuitive MMOs!

So Why do I want Darkfall to be a WoW killer? Because I want Darkfall to do to the MMO industry, what WoW did to it, I want more games with the DF formula, I want choices, and I know Blizzard will want to stay on top. Imagine, a Starcraft MMO with the DF formula…

Shut the fuck up and never post here again. I am not joking or doing this just to look hardcore, lurk moar or go away.

[Zwarp]

the only wow killer will be WoW 2

[Nunda]

It would be nice if Darkfall can be the WoW killer, but I don't think it will happen. Everyone has just been spoon-fed the same shitty game with a new name for the last 8 years that its too late to turn back. If WoW is killed, it will kill itself.


Yeah...I'm betting you're right...but one can dream =)

[Fluffington]

A small pvp game is going to take down WoW? No, it won't.

[Forgin]

For the record: 75% of users in that peice of shit are chinese gold farmers so why the fuck do assholes keep saying it's the place with the biggest pop.

For the record: 100% of that fact is made up so stfu, you know that is bullshit and by saying it you show that you are just a fanboi who is able to love any game at any given time.

[Ababoba]

Darkfall will not kill WoW. Many will quit and go back to WoW after their city has been destroyed or gear looted.

[Lethn]

Darkfall will certainly make WoW bleed very painfully as well as other MMORPGs that are coming out, but it certainly won't kill the game, only the bankruptcy of activision ( the now legal owners of Blizzard ) will really kill that game off realistically.

[Nunda]

Darkfall isn't trying to kill that peice of shit. It's an insult to even say Darkfall would give a shit about that crap because that implies Darkfall is going for those demographics and has modeled their game to those demographics.

For the record: 75% of users in that peice of shit are chinese gold farmers so why the fuck do assholes keep saying it's the place with the biggest pop.


I know DF isn’t trying to kill WoW, and I know Aventurine is just trying to make a good game, and I know we need more game developing companies like them. All I’m saying is I hope DF spawns allot of good copycat games, because I feel copycat games are good for the industry. Though I can see where you’d disagree with that last point.

[shnedit]

No it wont silly boy.

[Forgin]

I know DF isn’t trying to kill WoW, and I know Aventurine is just trying to make a good game, and I know we need more game developing companies like them. All I’m saying is I hope DF spawns allot of good copycat games, because I feel copycat games are good for the industry. Though I can see where you’d disagree with that last point.

Yes but why do you think killing WoW=succes?
Everyone seems to think a MMO is good if it kills WoW...

How about making a good game, with a few 100k subs and good reviews? I don't need to kill WoW...

[rendelgrendel]

For the record: 100% of that fact is made up so stfu, you know that is bullshit and by saying it you show that you are just a fanboi who is able to love any game at any given time.

For the record: I can't here a word of what your saying cause my dick is in your mouth and I don't give a fuck in the first place what your saying because your defending a piece of shit trammel clone game. I don't give a fuck what your kind chooses to believe. Hardcore loyalist over and fucking out. KEEP THAT TRASH OUT OF MY GENRE.

[shnedit]

For the record: I can't here a word of what your saying cause my dick is in your mouth and I don't give a fuck in the first place what your saying because your defending a piece of shit trammel clone game. I don't give a fuck what your kind chooses to believe. Hardcore loyalist over and fucking out. KEEP THAT TRASH OUT OF MY GENRE.

Your penis is in his mouth? You dirty little boys.

[Bloody blade]

I hope Darkfall doesn't kill WoW, but I hope it puts up a good competition. If Darkfall kills wow, then the wow carebears will come to darkfall and ruin the game. I want a large population of DFers, but that population should be anti-carebear.

[Forgin]

For the record: I can't here a word of what your saying cause my dick is in your mouth and I don't give a fuck in the first place what your saying because your defending a piece of shit trammel clone game. I don't give a fuck what your kind chooses to believe. Hardcore loyalist over and fucking out. KEEP THAT TRASH OUT OF MY GENRE.

I don't swallow



Oh and btw, WoW isn't a piece of shit, it is both suceesful and a decent game atleast. Saying it is bad because it isn't how you like your MMO is like calling Age of Empires bad because it isn't a FPS.

[Nunda]

Yes but why do you think killing WoW=succes?
Everyone seems to think a MMO is good if it kills WoW...

How about making a good game, with a few 100k subs and good reviews? I don't need to kill WoW...

No, killing WoW does not =success. Killing WoW means top of the line, gaming world changing, super uber success! That will give the level up system that I hate so very very much s slap on the face so hard it’s head will spin! I was just being exuberantly optimistic about the game is all.

As long as Aventurine delivers it’s promises, I’m sure DF will be Very successful and it doesn’t need to kill anything to be very successful

[Yamamoto]

The only MMO that will kill WoW will be Worlds of Starcraft.


Somebody call for an exterminator?

Blizzard should make a class based shooter: half Team Fortress, half Starcraft. I would so play that.

[shnedit]

The only MMO that will kill WoW will be Worlds of Starcraft.


Somebody call for an exterminator?

Blizzard should make a class based shooter: half Team Fortress, half Starcraft.

That would be awesomes.

[Nunda]

I hope Darkfall doesn't kill WoW, but I hope it puts up a good competition. If Darkfall kills wow, then the wow carebears will come to darkfall and ruin the game. I want a large population of DFers, but that population should be anti-carebear.

Seeing as we’re encouraging the “us vs them” mentality then yes, you’re absolutely right

[Nunda]

The only MMO that will kill WoW will be Worlds of Starcraft.


Somebody call for an exterminator?

Blizzard should make a class based shooter: half Team Fortress, half Starcraft. I would so play that.

That's what I'm saying!

[Largion]

Welcome to forumfall nr:111250 :ohno:

[SneakyHippie]

I submitted the beta article to Digg. And I know all of you want to see Darkfall succeed so digg it up. :)

http://digg.com/pc_games/Darkfall_Online_Beta_Registration

[Negocromn]

I don't think it will. but I hope it does, but not for the reasons you might think. I know DF doesn’t need to kill WoW to be successful, all they need to do deliver their promises and I’m sure they’ll be plenty successful. And I don’t hate WoW, I respect and admire WoW, WoW has helped the MMO industry in every aspect possible, it has dramatically increased the player base making it more likely for new MMOs to succeed, and making them more profitable. WoW is a shining example of how a good level based MMO should be, and copy cats have translated the formula beautifully, giving the player base a diverse choice intuitive MMOs!

So Why do I want Darkfall to be a WoW killer? Because I want Darkfall to do to the MMO industry, what WoW did to it, I want more games with the DF formula, I want choices, and I know Blizzard will want to stay on top. Imagine, a Starcraft MMO with the DF formula…

STFU.

The most stupid carebear shitasses that come to these forums are always WOW players. Always. How could most of them understand what Darkfall really is?? Hope the majority of WOW fanbase stays there...

As we, hardcore players are indeed a minority, I don't see any problems if DF end up with 70-100k subscribers.

[Nunda]

STFU.

The most stupid carebear shitasses that come to these forums are always WOW players. Always. How could most of them understand what Darkfall really is?? Hope the majority of WOW fanbase stays there...

As we, hardcore players are indeed a minority, I don't see any problems if DF end up with 70-100k subscribers.

I don't play WoW, I used to...not eungh of a challange, not enugh PvP

[Gloomrender]

WoW will keep on living and thank god it will keep the biggest portion of retard MMO players there.

Fresh meat we could have in Darkfall.

[Goty]

WoW is, in itself, a masterpiece of psychological addiction.

It's gameplay is mediocre on average and merely enjoyable at best. It succeeds, however, in crafting an environment perfectly fine tuned to entrance the player and keep them paying, month after month after month.

Every MMO is like this, sure; however, few have been crafted so well tuned to beat of addiction as WoW.

EQ began this trend with it's perfectly enjoyable 'level' system. It gave a tangible short term goal with gameplay distractions available, such as new weapons and armor, that gave the player their money's worth. Every MMO iteration after this simply refined the formula, tuning something here and tossing something there, until we had the variations of EQ that littered the MMO scene for the last several years.

WoW is the best, simply because it's the best at what it does.

That said, DF wasn't built following this train of thought. It follows the footsteps of a different path, where the player is king. It isn't a hamster cage with the spinning wheel to one side and the water trough in the other. It's a huge world where I can kill all of you, and all of you can find me, and die by my hand. A world where children run free and laugh, twirling in the springtime haze, thinking that I'm not there to kill them. But I am. Because this is DF, and I can do do whatever the hell I want. Same as the rest of you. Same as anyone who signs up to play. That's where these guys will make their money, instead of doing it through a deceptively disguised treadmill with imaginary carrots dangling ahead. That's why I'm here. I'm tired of chasing the dragon after the fun UO once gave us all. I hope DF succeeds in becoming what we all hope it will, because if not, we're stuck with the rest of the shit that's out there - and speaking for myself, I'd call it quits on the MMO world at that point.

We all understand, however, that even now knowing that DF isn't vapor - the risk isn't done yet. History has shown that no MMO has truly provided what was hoped for during it's gestation. SB and Horizons, two major examples of games that weren't quite what people had hoped for. With DF, I am hoping to get something playable. Something that isn't a bug riddled batch of poorly composed code and graphics melting through my system like an extra greasy Pastrami and Rye with Swiss and that spicy Deli Mustard that makes any meal delicious. Only less tasty.

No, there's still a while to wait to see if DF turns out worth playing - but it most definitely will not make a dent in WoW's superiority in the MMO world. Remember, you're pitting this against King Addiction. Those WoW kiddies are hooked bad.

[Gloomrender]

I disagree, I really think EQ was much better at keeping people playing than WOW is. It had a ton more depth and things to do and things to accomplish. WOW is just the most mainstream advertised/targeted MMO of all time. It attracts more people, sure, but it doesn't have the staying power of earlier games of the genre, not by a long shot.

I guess from that I should draw the conclusion that I disagree to an extent that WOW kiddies won't come to Darkfall. I think It's entirely possible they will come. But there's another factor besides the addictive nature of WOW to also consider. And that's the 'First MMO factor'. Everyone's first MMO trip is one that takes a long time to get bored of, even if the game is a piece of shit. So based on that and that alone, I believe they will probably come very slowly over to Darkfall, over time...probably faster than you would believe so, but still indeed slowly.

Darkfall will need to take in a lot of MMO noob players to flourish. And in that respect we can thank WOW, because WOW has normalized MMO's to the public and de-stigmatized MMO players quite a bit...which means more people are open to trying MMO games, and the chances of people coming to Darkfall are increased by that.

It will be interesting to see how it all develops.

[Shoku]

Not another useless topic posted by some guy who was apparently butt-raped by a Blizzard employee. Please stop this.

[Nunda]

DF wasn't built following this train of thought. It follows the footsteps of a different path, where the player is king. It isn't a hamster cage with the spinning wheel to one side and the water trough in the other. It's a huge world where I can kill all of you, and all of you can find me, and die by my hand. A world where children run free and laugh, twirling in the springtime haze, thinking that I'm not there to kill them. But I am.

I think it's funny that you forgot about that guy who keeps hunting you down and killing you. ^-^

[Goty]

I think it's funny that you forgot about that guy who keeps hunting you down and killing you. ^-^

That's because I can't kill myself in game. Remember, beneath my beard is another longsword.

[Nunda]

Not another useless topic posted by some guy who was apparently butt-raped by a Blizzard employee. Please stop this.

I said I respect WoW...(not my cup of tea though) And I do like Blizzard! if I was butt-raped by them, they hit my G-spot good! =)

[Kietharr]

the only wow killer will be WoW 2

Not really, EQ2 has been out for years and EQ1 still has a large population.

[Shoku]

the only wow killer will be WoW 2

No, World of Starcraft will kill WoW. It's coming, mark my words.

[Nunda]

That's because I can't kill myself in game. Remember, beneath my beard is another longsword.

LoL :D

[forestchild]

I don't think it will. but I hope it does, but not for the reasons you might think. I know DF doesn’t need to kill WoW to be successful, all they need to do deliver their promises and I’m sure they’ll be plenty successful. And I don’t hate WoW, I respect and admire WoW, WoW has helped the MMO industry in every aspect possible, it has dramatically increased the player base making it more likely for new MMOs to succeed, and making them more profitable. WoW is a shining example of how a good level based MMO should be, and copy cats have translated the formula beautifully, giving the player base a diverse choice intuitive MMOs!

So Why do I want Darkfall to be a WoW killer? Because I want Darkfall to do to the MMO industry, what WoW did to it, I want more games with the DF formula, I want choices, and I know Blizzard will want to stay on top. Imagine, a Starcraft MMO with the DF formula…


Silly topic that more belongs on mmorpg.com.
But now you made this topic, i wanne say this, maybe a DFO is AoC killer would be more realistic then wow.

That dont mean we love to see that, but its bit unrealistic becouse DFO is totally different game and playerbase then WoW, so compare hardcore sandbox pvp game agains a themepark casual game hmm then DFO wont touch WoW its playerbase much, maybe 10k players leave WoW for DFO then they still have 10million left lol, it wont happen my friend:)

[Yamamoto]

DFO is AoC killer

I'm pretty sure AoC killed itself.

[Xez]

wow is a zombie played by zombies and i assume you cannot kill what is already dead.

[Goty]

wow is a zombie played by zombies and i assume you cannot kill what is already dead.

How can you kill... that which has no life?

Mmm, mmm Southpark.

[Dazarthas]

How can you kill... that which has no life?

Mmm, mmm Southpark.

Remove the head or destroy the brain.

[Scottc1988]

How has WoW helped the MMORPG industry? All its done is get a bunch more fucktards who dont understand what an MMORPG is supposed to be so that developers will have even less reason to make a game to appeal to the veterans because theres an enormous fucking prize if you make the right game for the enormous pile of tards.

[kiasta]

Darkfall will certainly make WoW bleed very painfully as well as other MMORPGs that are coming out, but it certainly won't kill the game, only the bankruptcy of activision ( the now legal owners of Blizzard ) will really kill that game off realistically.

At least it's not owned by EA Games, Activision is not so bad. They (Activision) got sued for use of either Starforce or Tages copy protection (can't remember which one atm) so they use less invasive protections now. At least there is that about them. I would make it a point to them (by calling of course) that I would never buy any of their games with those copy protections because of the obvious spyware ridden copy protection. EA Games is a crappy company that needs to quickly commit massive suicide.

[MattMystrieo]

I was with some WoW carebear fan boys a few days ago, and they said it "sucked" (darkfall) then I pwned them in EVERY way possible and they went quite, and I think I have seriously made them think about how shit WoW is. I'll check next time I see but I am pretty proud.

Ohh and if you want to kill WoW just go assasianate the devs, problem solved.

[Scully]

It won't kill WoW!!! Wow some of you guys are stupid. It probably won't even touch it.

[Fluffington]

Ohh and if you want to kill WoW just go assasianate the devs, problem solved.

They could buy new, more powerful devs.

[Spinewire]

I don't think it will. but I hope it does, but not for the reasons you might think. I know DF doesn’t need to kill WoW to be successful, all they need to do deliver their promises and I’m sure they’ll be plenty successful. And I don’t hate WoW, I respect and admire WoW, WoW has helped the MMO industry in every aspect possible, it has dramatically increased the player base making it more likely for new MMOs to succeed, and making them more profitable. WoW is a shining example of how a good level based MMO should be, and copy cats have translated the formula beautifully, giving the player base a diverse choice intuitive MMOs!

So Why do I want Darkfall to be a WoW killer? Because I want Darkfall to do to the MMO industry, what WoW did to it, I want more games with the DF formula, I want choices, and I know Blizzard will want to stay on top. Imagine, a Starcraft MMO with the DF formula…
never going to happen, search more post less noob


The game wont look pretty and it will lack polish, that will be enough to keep the wow fanboys away. Also most people don't like unresticted PvP.