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Toilet
09-20-2008, 01:50 PM
Sodium fluoride is a synthetic, inorganic compound, also called stannous fluoride. It kills rats by converting into fluoric acid in the stomach by reacting with stomach acids. Fluoric acid will dissolve glass, tell me that's not toxic. Sodium fluoride inhibits over 100 enzyme functions, and can be attributed to over 30 - 50 thousand Cancer deaths per year. The main function of sodium fluoride when used as a rat poison, is to destroy (inhibit) enzyme function. This causes the rats to starve to death by eating all the foods it desires, death by malnutrition. Deaths in fluorinated water areas is 5% higher than non fluorinated areas per populace. Studies have shown that sodium fluoride causes an increase in tooth decay, this condition is called fluoridosis. In fact there has never been a study that shows sodium fluoride prevented cavities. One hundredth of one ounce of sodium fluoride can kill a 10 pound child, and one tenth of an ounce can kill an adult. Fluoride toothpaste contains up to 1mg of sodium fluoride. A family size tube of toothpaste contains 199mg of sodium fluoride, more than enough to kill a 25 lb child. Our mouths are the fastest absorbing area in our bodies, about 79% of the sodium fluoride is absorbed within one minute if it is not spit out, this is called sublingual.
Sodium fluoride disrupts DNA repair, causes genetic damage, increases the risk of cancer and directly accelerates the aging process. Mother's who take sodium fluoride or have high sodium fluoride levels in their bodies during pregnancy, have an increase in birth defects. It is more poisinous than lead and slighly more poisonous than arsenic.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/ has a lot more of these grim facts.

Bissen
09-20-2008, 01:53 PM
So your alcohol ban thread failed and then you decided to spam a new crappy thread.

GG you dumbfuck.

Shads
09-20-2008, 01:53 PM
You forgot to mention fluorinated water can also cause AIDS.

Morthor
09-20-2008, 01:53 PM
This thread is like the equivalent of 'cyanide is poisonous, don't eat it!'.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 01:54 PM
So your alcohol ban thread failed and then you decided to spam a new crappy thread.

GG you dumbfuck.

Its not crappy you shithead.

Im trying to inform Forumfall that fluoride is a vile poison and is on a whole different level than the alcohol thread, in that this is deadly serious.

Spades Felligan
09-20-2008, 01:55 PM
What's the only thing that comes out of a toilet?

alorse
09-20-2008, 01:56 PM
thats why it says its "absorbed"

Toilet
09-20-2008, 01:56 PM
Thats why you're not supposed to fucking swallow it.

Read the fucking part where its absorbed by your mouth.

A little help.

Our mouths are the fastest absorbing area in our bodies, about 79% of the sodium fluoride is absorbed within one minute if it is not spit out, this is called sublingual.

palo god
09-20-2008, 01:56 PM
Its not crappy you shithead.

Im trying to inform Forumfall that fluoride is a vile poison and is on a whole different level than the alcohol thread, in that this is deadly serious.

I don't care.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 01:56 PM
What's the only thing that comes out of a toilet?

Nothing comes out of it, retard.

Bissen
09-20-2008, 01:57 PM
Its not crappy you shithead.

Im trying to inform Forumfall that fluoride is a vile poison and is on a whole different level than the alcohol thread, in that this is deadly serious.


No! You're just spamming random topics.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 01:57 PM
I don't care.

Then gtfo out of this thread, as its actually, serious and go post in some "Lol OBAMA SUXXOR" thread.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 01:58 PM
No! You're just spamming random topics.

Hella no, but thanks for bumping.

Temet nosce
09-20-2008, 02:04 PM
This thread is like the equivalent of 'cyanide is poisonous, don't eat it!'.

True, although most of the population ingest less cyanide than fluoride (although some people do get some from apple seeds).

That said, I pretty much agree in principle. Anyone who gives a shit about this already knows. (Not saying it doesn't matter since I personally only drink bottled water and this is one of the reasons, but do we really need this topic?)

Meh, maybe I'm just jaded. At least this gives me a new topic to post in.

Barbarossa
09-20-2008, 02:06 PM
Toilet is trying hard to overthrow Villa as King of Trolls but Villa reigns supreme. His trolling knows no equal.

Perhaps Toilet should try to go be king of the GD or n00bs section?

Dredgon
09-20-2008, 02:12 PM
Leave the trolling for the good hoes, such as Villa.:ninja:

Salo
09-20-2008, 02:14 PM
The area of England where I live used to have fluoride in the water. About 15-20 years ago they stopped fluoridating in this area. Since then the level of dental caries in children under 12 (the usual indicator of overall dental health) has soared.

Birmingham, meanwhile, started fluridating their water again a few years ago. You want to see the graph for dental caries levels for Birmingham. The rates just plummetted since they started fluoridating again.

I've sat through interminable meetings in Council about dental health and the question of fluoride. So far no consensus has been reached, many are against it on the grounds that it is mass medication. I can understand that argument and sympathise with it. I am however in favour of fluoridating water. Thus far the evidence for fluoride being harmful when added to the water doesn't seem to stack up. The evidence for its benefits is compelling.

Barbarossa
09-20-2008, 02:16 PM
The area of England where I live used to have fluoride in the water. About 15-20 years ago they stopped fluoridating in this area. Since then the level of dental caries in children under 12 (the usual indicator of overall dental health) has soared.

Birmingham, meanwhile, started fluridating their water again a few years ago. You want to see the graph for dental caries levels for Birmingham. The rates just plummetted since they started fluoridating again.

I've sat through interminable meetings in Council about dental health and the question of fluoride. So far no consensus has been reached, many are against it on the grounds that it is mass medication. I can understand that argument and sympathise with it. I am however in favour of fluoridating water. Thus far the evidence for fluoride being harmful when added to the water doesn't seem to stack up. The evidence for its benefits is compelling.


Don't feed the troll...

Toilet
09-20-2008, 02:18 PM
The area of England where I live used to have fluoride in the water. About 15-20 years ago they stopped fluoridating in this area. Since then the level of dental caries in children under 12 (the usual indicator of overall dental health) has soared.

Birmingham, meanwhile, started fluridating their water again a few years ago. You want to see the graph for dental caries levels for Birmingham. The rates just plummetted since they started fluoridating again.

I've sat through interminable meetings in Council about dental health and the question of fluoride. So far no consensus has been reached, many are against it on the grounds that it is mass medication. I can understand that argument and sympathise with it. I am however in favour of fluoridating water. Thus far the evidence for fluoride being harmful when added to the water doesn't seem to stack up. The evidence for its benefits is compelling.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/teeth/caries/

Toilet
09-20-2008, 02:19 PM
Toilet is trying hard to overthrow Villa as King of Trolls but Villa reigns supreme. His trolling knows no equal.

Perhaps Toilet should try to go be king of the GD or n00bs section?

This is not a troll topic.....

Bissen
09-20-2008, 02:23 PM
This is not a troll topic.....

The topic ain't. You on the other hand....

Shads
09-20-2008, 02:24 PM
This is not a troll topic.....
Now it is. (http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/images/troll.jpg)

Toilet
09-20-2008, 02:35 PM
The topic ain't. You on the other hand....

Seriously, this is my most serious topic ever.

Madrandomize
09-20-2008, 02:45 PM
Don't feed the troll...

madrandomize:Here here have some posts!!!!
Troll:NOM NOM NOM !!!

angelfang
09-20-2008, 03:00 PM
Ahahaa so funny to see the troll being trolled.

Weeking
09-20-2008, 03:03 PM
Even radiation is beneficial in minute amounts. Small levels of flouride is linked to less cavities, it's even how they came up with the idea as some areas have naturally elevated levels.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 03:07 PM
Even radiation is beneficial in minute amounts. Small levels of flouride is linked to less cavities, it's even how they came up with the idea as some areas have naturally elevated levels.

Just a shame that fluoride gets stored in the body, doing a whole lot of damages.

Weeking
09-20-2008, 03:12 PM
Just a shame that fluoride gets stored in the body, doing a whole lot of damages.

No it isn't as water in my country is not fluoridated and I brush my teeth like 1 time for 30 seconds a week and I still don't get teeth decay or bad breath.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 03:17 PM
No it isn't as water in my country is not fluoridated and I brush my teeth like 1 time for 30 seconds a week and I still don't get teeth decay or bad breath.

Your mouth absorbs it.....

Then your body stores it.....

Ankh
09-20-2008, 03:34 PM
This man knows what the hell he's talking about. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0he-LZNzVg0)

Weeking
09-20-2008, 03:50 PM
Your mouth absorbs it.....

Then your body stores it.....

If it is stored (in fat) nothing do any harm. Until you starve yourself.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 04:09 PM
If it is stored (in fat) nothing do any harm. Until you starve yourself.

Its stored in the bones, among other places.

trichlor
09-20-2008, 04:19 PM
Its stored in the bones, among other places.

Good, now I know my bones are clean.

Zeaph
09-20-2008, 04:25 PM
sweet an excuse to not to brush my teeth.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 04:26 PM
Good, now I know my bones are clean.

No, it makes your bones weaker, and your bones are quite clean anyways.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 04:27 PM
sweet an excuse to not to brush my teeth.

Witth toothpaste that is.

kanzyman
09-20-2008, 04:29 PM
Sodium fluoride is a synthetic, inorganic compound, also called stannous fluoride. It kills rats by converting into fluoric acid in the stomach by reacting with stomach acids. Fluoric acid will dissolve glass, tell me that's not toxic. Sodium fluoride inhibits over 100 enzyme functions, and can be attributed to over 30 - 50 thousand Cancer deaths per year. The main function of sodium fluoride when used as a rat poison, is to destroy (inhibit) enzyme function. This causes the rats to starve to death by eating all the foods it desires, death by malnutrition. Deaths in fluorinated water areas is 5% higher than non fluorinated areas per populace. Studies have shown that sodium fluoride causes an increase in tooth decay, this condition is called fluoridosis. In fact there has never been a study that shows sodium fluoride prevented cavities. One hundredth of one ounce of sodium fluoride can kill a 10 pound child, and one tenth of an ounce can kill an adult. Fluoride toothpaste contains up to 1mg of sodium fluoride. A family size tube of toothpaste contains 199mg of sodium fluoride, more than enough to kill a 25 lb child. Our mouths are the fastest absorbing area in our bodies, about 79% of the sodium fluoride is absorbed within one minute if it is not spit out, this is called sublingual.
Sodium fluoride disrupts DNA repair, causes genetic damage, increases the risk of cancer and directly accelerates the aging process. Mother's who take sodium fluoride or have high sodium fluoride levels in their bodies during pregnancy, have an increase in birth defects. It is more poisinous than lead and slighly more poisonous than arsenic.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/ has a lot more of these grim facts.

Thank you for this important info.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 04:33 PM
Also note that i could have easily made this a conspiracy thread, but as i wanted to warn Forumfall, i wanted to be taken serious.

Lethn
09-20-2008, 04:34 PM
You had something going with Cold Fusion, I remember that being mentioned a couple of times on the internet generally when people were talking about energy resources, or was that Nuclear Fission?

In any case your posts are making you look more and more stupid by the minute, just give it up.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 04:54 PM
You had something going with Cold Fusion, I remember that being mentioned a couple of times on the internet generally when people were talking about energy resources, or was that Nuclear Fission?

In any case your posts are making you look more and more stupid by the minute, just give it up.

You didnt even read the thread.

You just read the title like so many other morons in this thread.

trichlor
09-20-2008, 04:56 PM
You didnt even read the thread.

You just read the title like so many other morons in this thread.

Well if maybe it was something more than just a block of text more people would read it.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 05:03 PM
Well if maybe it was something more than just a block of text more people would read it.

Pretty hard to post anything other than a block of text....

chimp
09-20-2008, 05:15 PM
Sodium fluoride is a synthetic, inorganic compound, also called stannous fluoride. It kills rats by converting into fluoric acid in the stomach by reacting with stomach acids. Fluoric acid will dissolve glass, tell me that's not toxic. Sodium fluoride inhibits over 100 enzyme functions, and can be attributed to over 30 - 50 thousand Cancer deaths per year. The main function of sodium fluoride when used as a rat poison, is to destroy (inhibit) enzyme function. This causes the rats to starve to death by eating all the foods it desires, death by malnutrition. Deaths in fluorinated water areas is 5% higher than non fluorinated areas per populace. Studies have shown that sodium fluoride causes an increase in tooth decay, this condition is called fluoridosis. In fact there has never been a study that shows sodium fluoride prevented cavities. One hundredth of one ounce of sodium fluoride can kill a 10 pound child, and one tenth of an ounce can kill an adult. Fluoride toothpaste contains up to 1mg of sodium fluoride. A family size tube of toothpaste contains 199mg of sodium fluoride, more than enough to kill a 25 lb child. Our mouths are the fastest absorbing area in our bodies, about 79% of the sodium fluoride is absorbed within one minute if it is not spit out, this is called sublingual.
Sodium fluoride disrupts DNA repair, causes genetic damage, increases the risk of cancer and directly accelerates the aging process. Mother's who take sodium fluoride or have high sodium fluoride levels in their bodies during pregnancy, have an increase in birth defects. It is more poisinous than lead and slighly more poisonous than arsenic.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/ has a lot more of these grim facts.

LD50 anyone

/thread

Honestly, I shouldn't have to say any more than that.

Baralis
09-20-2008, 05:17 PM
It is amazing how many synthetic poisons we put into our bodies or expose ourselves to on a daily basis. I think alot of people would be suprised. I have often thought making alist of the toxic chemicals your average american exposes themselves to on an average day.

Cidius
09-20-2008, 05:19 PM
It is amazing how many synthetic poisons we put into our bodies or expose ourselves to on a daily basis. I think alot of people would be suprised. I have often thought making alist of the toxic chemicals your average american exposes themselves to on an average day.It has been done, documented, filmed and everything.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 05:21 PM
LD50 anyone

/thread

Honestly, I shouldn't have to say any more than that.

Its not the LD50 value thats important, because the number that has an intake that high is very few.

Its how its very toxic to the body, even in small amounts

alfaroverall
09-20-2008, 05:37 PM
Sodium fluoride is a synthetic, inorganic compound, also called stannous fluoride.
Stannous fluoride is tin (II) fluoride a.k.a. SnCl2. lrn2nomenclature.
It kills rats by converting into fluoric acid in the stomach by reacting with stomach acids.
It is referred to as hydrofluoric acid, not fluoric acid.
Fluoric acid will dissolve glass, tell me that's not toxic.
At concentrations of 5+ M, not concentrations of toothpaste which are maybe 0.1 M, and this is assuming that sodium fluoride is converted into hydrofluoric acid entirely in the stomach, which it is not, because the reaction:
NaF+H+ (positive charge)->HF+Na+ (positive charge)
is not favored by the reactivities of hydrogen and sodium.
Sodium fluoride inhibits over 100 enzyme functions, and can be attributed to over 30 - 50 thousand Cancer deaths per year.
Which ones? Serious question, this is the first new information I've heard.
The main function of sodium fluoride when used as a rat poison, is to destroy (inhibit) enzyme function. This causes the rats to starve to death by eating all the foods it desires, death by malnutrition.
Wait, what? Eating all the foods it desires? Only humans desire food that provides them poor nutrition.
Deaths in fluorinated water areas is 5% higher than non fluorinated areas per populace.
Oh really? Let's see this. Studies have shown that sodium fluoride causes an increase in tooth decay, this condition is called fluoridosis.
lolwut? Sodium fluoride creates diffusion of fluoride ions into the actual teeth themselves (which contain fluoride ions) thereby rebuilding the structure of the teeth themselves. Perhaps more importantly, it's a potent bactericide.

And again, citation plox.
A family size tube of toothpaste contains 199mg of sodium fluoride, more than enough to kill a 25 lb child.
You just said it took 1/100 of an ounce to kill a 10 lb child. That's equivalent to 283 mg. lrn2math. And that's assuming your numbers were right in the first place, which they weren't; a lethal dose of sodium fluoride for an adult is 5-10 g, which is equivalent to .2-.4 ounces, approximately.
Our mouths are the fastest absorbing area in our bodies, about 79% of the sodium fluoride is absorbed within one minute if it is not spit out, this is called sublingual.
So?
Sodium fluoride disrupts DNA repair, causes genetic damage, increases the risk of cancer and directly accelerates the aging process.
Big statement there. Citation?
Mother's who take sodium fluoride or have high sodium fluoride levels in their bodies during pregnancy, have an increase in birth defects.
Now this is not surprising, admittedly. Pretty much anything that is not a fundamental nutrient (i.e. a vitamin or key mineral) is mildly teratogenic, though.
It is more poisinous than lead and slighly more poisonous than arsenic.
In terms of amounts? Technically, this is somewhat correct. True death by lead poisoning requires very large amounts of lead, much more than 5-10g. For arsenic this is incorrect; for a 70 kg adult you would need only 0.2-0.4g of arsenic to kill them.
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/ has a lot more of these grim facts.
Bogus science sites ftw.

This is all addressed to the site by the way, not the OP.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 05:46 PM
My OP was nothing but a copy paste, and while i know it had its faults i still used it to get a point across, that flouride is a poison and should not be used at all.

Therfore Alfa, i will give you something else to debunk.

http://www.johnnygoodtimes.com/archives/004167.shtml

Toilet
09-20-2008, 05:53 PM
. lolwut? Sodium fluoride creates diffusion of fluoride ions into the actual teeth themselves (which contain fluoride ions) thereby rebuilding the structure of the teeth themselves. Perhaps more importantly, it's a potent bactericide.


http://fluoridedangers.blogspot.com/2005/11/fluoridation-does-not-save-money-or.html

Fluoride even kills the enzymes that rebuild teeth aswell as the bacterias.

The enzymes and bacterias have a constant battle, however increasing sweets increase bacterias while increasing magnesium, calcium and reducing protein increases the enzymes, or atleast makes them more effective.

Xtra-Medium
09-20-2008, 06:02 PM
i dont think flouride is all that bad, and causes tooth decay? why would the dentist put it on your teeth then? conspiracy to get money?

Toilet
09-20-2008, 06:03 PM
i dont think flouride is all that bad, and causes tooth decay? why would the dentist put it on your teeth then? conspiracy to get money?

It also lowers your IQ, and is a much cheaper that storing it in a cave or something.

Therefore there are three winners: Dentists, industry and the government.

Shads
09-20-2008, 06:06 PM
DUDES IT ALSO CAUSES AIDS FFS listen to the man!

chimp
09-20-2008, 06:13 PM
It also lowers your IQ, and is a much cheaper that storing it in a cave or something.

Therefore there are three winners: Dentists, industry and the government.

Toilet, I firmly believe you are just a bad troll, because all of the OT threads you have started have contained obviously bogus scientific claims. Until you start giving accurate, verifiable citations for your wild claims "fluoride decreases IQ", then im going to continue to believe your just a shit troll.

You would get more responses out of people like myself if you did this, because right now - i just cba. Theres no point feeding the troll, because you already know what your saying is bullshit. However if you start presenting facts in an ordered and backed up fashion, I might actually take some of your claims seriously, and try to rebuke them.

As usual, alfar has bothered to take the time to research some of your specific points and debunk them as nonsense. If you want more serious attention to your trollbait, then you need to step up your game.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 06:25 PM
Toilet, I firmly believe you are just a bad troll, because all of the OT threads you have started have contained obviously bogus scientific claims. Until you start giving accurate, verifiable citations for your wild claims "fluoride decreases IQ", then im going to continue to believe your just a shit troll.

You would get more responses out of people like myself if you did this, because right now - i just cba. Theres no point feeding the troll, because you already know what your saying is bullshit. However if you start presenting facts in an ordered and backed up fashion, I might actually take some of your claims seriously, and try to rebuke them.

As usual, alfar has bothered to take the time to research some of your specific points and debunk them as nonsense. If you want more serious attention to your trollbait, then you need to step up your game.

http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news-1/Fluoride-May-Damage-the-Brain--New-Report-Says-12728-1/

Lictor
09-20-2008, 06:27 PM
Ok, fluoride may be poisonous, but... in big amounts. I don't know about you, but I do not swallow tooth paste, flush out all that's left after tooth-brushing and so on. I also do not drink huge ammounts of tap water. So I think, that healthy adult human body could and should be able to take care of this little ammount of redundant fluoride, getting each day into my system. If it's not, then either it's because of some other toxins I am absorbing in big ammounts on daily basis and my body cannot process at the same time with the fluoride or my organism is not fit to live and it should probably die.

Anyway, I think that sticking to some simple rules of common sense, when it comes to various potentially harmful substances in your environment can really keep you safe from some permanent body poisoning, leading to disease or death.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 06:34 PM
Ok, fluoride may be poisonous, but... in big amounts. I don't know about you, but I do not swallow tooth paste, flush out all that's left after tooth-brushing and so on. I also do not drink huge ammounts of tap water. So I think, that healthy adult human body could and should be able to take care of this little ammount of redundant fluoride, getting each day into my system. If it's not, then either it's because of some other toxins I am absorbing in big ammounts on daily basis and my body cannot process at the same time with the fluoride or my organism is not fit to live and it should probably die.

Anyway, I think that sticking to some simple rules of common sense, when it comes to various potentially harmful substances in your environment can really keep you safe from some permanent body poisoning, leading to disease or death.

Fluoride is everywhere nowadays.

If you for example drink Cola or Pepsi, have you investigated if its made from tap water in a place with fluoride added into it?

Shads
09-20-2008, 06:37 PM
If you for example drink Cola or Pepsi, have you investigated if its made from tap water in a place with fluoride added into it?

That's the least harmful problem about those two drinks.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 06:39 PM
That's the least harmful problem about those two drinks.

But its atleast a few drops in a bucket already filled.

Drunkenork
09-20-2008, 06:43 PM
My OP was nothing but a copy paste, and while i know it had its faults i still used it to get a point across, that flouride is a poison and should not be used at all.

Therfore Alfa, i will give you something else to debunk.

http://www.johnnygoodtimes.com/archives/004167.shtml

Why do you post stuff knowing that it is faulty, or has some faults, and not note that? That would seem to help bolster your credit on the topic. :confused:

nate4449
09-20-2008, 06:55 PM
Shiny Teeth > Health.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 07:15 PM
Why do you post stuff knowing that it is faulty, or has some faults, and not note that? That would seem to help bolster your credit on the topic. :confused:

Because i couldnt be arsed to write my own post? :)

Nicolie
09-20-2008, 07:22 PM
My mother would not let me have fluoride, never really knew why. I am glad she didn't let me have it.

kiasta
09-20-2008, 07:23 PM
Sodium fluoride is a synthetic, inorganic compound, also called stannous fluoride. It kills rats by converting into fluoric acid in the stomach by reacting with stomach acids. Fluoric acid will dissolve glass, tell me that's not toxic. Sodium fluoride inhibits over 100 enzyme functions, and can be attributed to over 30 - 50 thousand Cancer deaths per year. The main function of sodium fluoride when used as a rat poison, is to destroy (inhibit) enzyme function. This causes the rats to starve to death by eating all the foods it desires, death by malnutrition. Deaths in fluorinated water areas is 5% higher than non fluorinated areas per populace. Studies have shown that sodium fluoride causes an increase in tooth decay, this condition is called fluoridosis. In fact there has never been a study that shows sodium fluoride prevented cavities. One hundredth of one ounce of sodium fluoride can kill a 10 pound child, and one tenth of an ounce can kill an adult. Fluoride toothpaste contains up to 1mg of sodium fluoride. A family size tube of toothpaste contains 199mg of sodium fluoride, more than enough to kill a 25 lb child. Our mouths are the fastest absorbing area in our bodies, about 79% of the sodium fluoride is absorbed within one minute if it is not spit out, this is called sublingual.
Sodium fluoride disrupts DNA repair, causes genetic damage, increases the risk of cancer and directly accelerates the aging process. Mother's who take sodium fluoride or have high sodium fluoride levels in their bodies during pregnancy, have an increase in birth defects. It is more poisinous than lead and slighly more poisonous than arsenic.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/ has a lot more of these grim facts.

Yeah, well they needed somewhere to put the stuff and what better way than to lie to people and dump it in the water for free? There are all sorts of things the fda/government/food companies make us believe is food or "healthy".

kiasta
09-20-2008, 07:27 PM
Sodium fluoride is a synthetic, inorganic compound, also called stannous fluoride. It kills rats by converting into fluoric acid in the stomach by reacting with stomach acids. Fluoric acid will dissolve glass, tell me that's not toxic. Sodium fluoride inhibits over 100 enzyme functions, and can be attributed to over 30 - 50 thousand Cancer deaths per year. The main function of sodium fluoride when used as a rat poison, is to destroy (inhibit) enzyme function. This causes the rats to starve to death by eating all the foods it desires, death by malnutrition. Deaths in fluorinated water areas is 5% higher than non fluorinated areas per populace. Studies have shown that sodium fluoride causes an increase in tooth decay, this condition is called fluoridosis. In fact there has never been a study that shows sodium fluoride prevented cavities. One hundredth of one ounce of sodium fluoride can kill a 10 pound child, and one tenth of an ounce can kill an adult. Fluoride toothpaste contains up to 1mg of sodium fluoride. A family size tube of toothpaste contains 199mg of sodium fluoride, more than enough to kill a 25 lb child. Our mouths are the fastest absorbing area in our bodies, about 79% of the sodium fluoride is absorbed within one minute if it is not spit out, this is called sublingual.
Sodium fluoride disrupts DNA repair, causes genetic damage, increases the risk of cancer and directly accelerates the aging process. Mother's who take sodium fluoride or have high sodium fluoride levels in their bodies during pregnancy, have an increase in birth defects. It is more poisinous than lead and slighly more poisonous than arsenic.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/ has a lot more of these grim facts.

Also, there is no point in trying to enlighten ignorant gamers they are either children or stupid and don't care about the world let alone what goes on in the world. They are happy in their ignorance just like the government wants them to be.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 07:45 PM
Also, there is no point in trying to enlighten ignorant gamers they are either children or stupid and don't care about the world let alone what goes on in the world. They are happy in their ignorance just like the government wants them to be.

True true.

But atleast i know i cant be partly at fault.

alfaroverall
09-20-2008, 08:06 PM
Typo in my previous post; should be SnF2, not SnCl2. Was thinking of the much more common and chemically similar compound stannous chloride.
Shiny Teeth > Health.
This is very sadly true, culturally. All those whitening toothpastes and products use bleaching agents that dramatically weaken tooth enamel. But it has nothing to do with fluoride.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 08:19 PM
This is very sadly true, culturally. All those whitening toothpastes and products use bleaching agents that dramatically weaken tooth enamel. But it has nothing to do with fluoride.

It has something to do with fluoride, in that fluoride makes teeth anything other than white.

Dazarthas
09-20-2008, 08:38 PM
Fuck you, General Ripper.

If you don't get the reference, you can GTFO.

Rimayven
09-20-2008, 08:49 PM
Are you trying to tell me not to use toothpaste anymore to lessen my chances of illness?

Toilet
09-20-2008, 08:52 PM
Are you trying to tell me not to use toothpaste anymore to lessen my chances of illness?

Read the thread, dimwit.

Tootpaste is fine aslong as its without fluoride.

Rimayven
09-20-2008, 08:53 PM
Me sorry, too much readin hurts my eyes.
Why does my toothpaste come with added fluoride? Just to get me to pay more?

Toilet
09-20-2008, 09:02 PM
Me sorry, too much readin hurts my eyes.
Why does my toothpaste come with added fluoride? Just to get me to pay more?

Read the topic if you want to know that, and researching it yourself helps too.

Rimayven
09-20-2008, 09:09 PM
So, after a lot of eye strain from reading, I finally learned that fluoride helps me keep my oral hygiene, and from TV, I learned that nice teeth helps me get laid, as shown in some toothpaste ads. Haven't seen anyone get killed by toothpaste on TV yet. So what exactly is wrong with my toothpaste?

Attau
09-20-2008, 09:15 PM
Toilet crits you for 1938 points of damage with unstructured post.

You tldr.

Dullard
09-20-2008, 09:24 PM
Oh dear God Toilet, take off your fucking foil hat.

Toilet
09-20-2008, 09:27 PM
Oh dear God Toilet, take off your fucking foil hat.

No way.

Fluoride is a poison, and there must be a conspiracy going on thats keeping it there.

alfaroverall
09-20-2008, 09:28 PM
So is cyanide, but you don't see anyone banning apple seeds.

Rimayven
09-20-2008, 09:34 PM
No way.

... and there must be a conspiracy going on thats keeping it there.

What exactly is this all about?

Dullard
09-20-2008, 09:36 PM
You best be trolling.

chimp
09-20-2008, 09:55 PM
http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news-1/Fluoride-May-Damage-the-Brain--New-Report-Says-12728-1/

Ok Toilet, so the tl;dr of what you have posted is NOT what you are saying in your posts.

The main opposition to fluoridation is specifically for very young children, relating to developmental problems. This includes a range of defects which yes, include potentially reduced IQ.

Again, take this with a pinch of salt. Its saying that IF a child is exceeding the daily RDA of fluorinated water, then they MAY be exposing themselves to a potential increase in an array of defects. This is why some parents choose to stop their young kids using fluorinated toothpaste - I know my parents did. I doubt it made any difference but mmeh.

To weigh on this point further, there is doubt that putting fluorine in the water actually has benefits that outweigh the potential risks, thus whats the point of doing it. Spamming around saying OMFG FLUROINE IS A POISON :*:*( is nonsense hype and junk science at its most dangerous.

tl;dr You dont understand science, so you cant really make worthwhile assessments of scientific subjects. All you can do is make simplistic and incorrect statements such as flurorine is teh poizons and will kill u1/1!

Rimayven
09-20-2008, 09:57 PM
*Blocked to protect eyes.*u1/1!

Thank you sir, so rest assured that I will never fear of fluoride?