WARHAMMER Online fails

[Nixation]

Thousands of players not getting into the beta (technical issues across the board), I was a little pissed that I wasn't in for awhile... till I realized that Darkfall just has to beat them to win me over, which should be easier than taking candy from a limbless baby.

[-Havoc-]

...beta's over...

I'm at a loss for this game. I want to play the Order faction and make a fighter, but I don't want to play a dwarf. Argghhh...class-based PvP is a win-lose game of chance. You either find a class you like, or you find nothing at all, and I found nothing. I hate being locked into having to use certain weapons, armor, and spells, I want to ability to make my own char.

Still, the game is good and I might pick it up...if Darkfall fails.

[Ammon777]

While a bunch had problems getting in, there are also a LOT of people that were in open beta that are saying that Warhammer is best MMO since World of Warcraft. You cant just look at a section of people and make wide assumptions about the entire population, come on.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/201499/page/1

I see the majority in that thread declare that WAR is best MMORPG ever released. It will be a success, no doubt about it.

Not that I am advocating it at all. I am just not blind to whats going on. I am not even buying WAR when it releases (maybe will buy it in 5 months), but I am not in denial that there are a SHITLOAD of very pleased WAR fanatics right now who all played open beta and are going apeshit how awesome they think it is.

I would rather wait for Darkfall...

[Youknowho]

I hated it, it felt like WoW but with an even crappier and less balanced pvp combat. Tanks rape in that game, and with a healer they are unstoppable not to mention even the weakest classes take 5 minutes to kill anyway. This is casual pvp.4

[alfaroverall]

Wouldn't taking candy from a limbless baby be impossible, since it couldn't possibly have the candy in the first place? Or is "in the mouth" equivalent to possession?

[Everto]

Wouldn't taking candy from a limbless baby be impossible, since it couldn't possibly have the candy in the first place? Or is "in the mouth" equivalent to possession?

Maybe it lays upon the babies tummy.
Torture from the mother as she wanted abortion.

[Ungraylessness]

It could be in the pockets of the baby's clothes

[Youknowho]

Is physical contact necessary in order to imply ownership?

[Slypieguy]

Is physical contact necessary in order to imply ownership?

He said "taking candy from a baby." A physical taking would seem to imply possession more than ownership.

[Everto]

He said "taking candy from a baby." A physical taking would seem to imply possession more than ownership.

Wouldn't that fall under "Stealing candy from a baby?"

[Youknowho]

It could be said that possession and ownership are inter-changeable(sp?) at least some of the time, of course it is possible to possess something and not own it but since the object in question is candy and meant for consumption I don't think it's logical to assume anything other than sole ownership, though not to be exclusive to those ends.

So perhaps the candy is merely owned by the new born quadriplegic and not necessarily in his direct possession on his person... err torso, henceforth said candy can be stolen with little resistance regardless of his physical handicap should that be the case.

That settled we should now take to planning our strategy on retrieving this candy. See diagram below.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/czollo/Awesome.jpg?t=1221454995

[Delthayre]

Trying to intepret or understand idioms literally never ends well or, even worse, never ends.

[Ungraylessness]

But if you take the candy from the baby the baby still has ownership even though it's not in it's possession. What if say a limbless baby if having his candy delivered to him by men with guns in an armored car. Then the candy would be a bitch to take from the baby.

This analogy doesn't make sense at all.

[Shane]

I take candy from children with no arms and no legs and then discuss the philosophy behind it.

...

[LordTenacious]

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/czollo/Awesome.jpg?t=1221454995

You fool! If the baby turns our left flank, we will be doomed!

[Attau]

Leave the baby alone :(

[Youknowho]

You fool! If the baby turns our left flank, we will be doomed!

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/czollo/Awesome.jpg?t=1221457093

Not pictured - Air Support.

[Attau]

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...g?t=1221454995

Not pictured - Air Support.

This doesnt link to a pic for me.

[Aragoni]

The pre-release thingy will be released today, right?

"The adventure has now begun for real! We very pleased to announce that the Headstart has begun and you can now log in and play. At this stage all Collector's Edition pre-orders are able to access the servers, those of you with a Standard Edition pre-order can join tomorrow morning."-
WOOTWOOTWOOT! ORGASM! Lucky for me I only got school for four hours today!

[Denaton]

I have my self play WarHammer online Beta...

It was @ Deamhack if anyone know what that is...

That game suxs my rusty balls... Its was to play WoW with a diferent world and some changes...

even the grafic (At this point) was worse then WoW...

I compare this game to WoW becus the most have played that game... i Dont say every one have okay?

Anywhay... its dont gonna beat WoW or any game ever...

Darkfall at my point... can take down WoW for ever!!!

Power to the Darkfall!!

[Spikey]

I started the headstart yesterday. Release is a LOT more polished than beta, and easily as polished as WoW was when it came out. As for the PvP etc, meh it's ok. I'm playing it because there's no good single player games out and even though it's an MMO I can play single player and it's still better than 83579375987 other RPGs out there. So it's still worth playing.

[Aragoni]

I have my self play WarHammer online Beta...

It was @ Deamhack if anyone know what that is...

That game suxs my rusty balls... Its was to play WoW with a diferent world and some changes...

even the grafic (At this point) was worse then WoW...

I compare this game to WoW becus the most have played that game... i Dont say every one have okay?

Anywhay... its dont gonna beat WoW or any game ever...

Darkfall at my point... can take down WoW for ever!!!

Power to the Darkfall!!

Wtf? Have you even played Paul Barnett Online? If you want to compare it then you should compare it to Dark Age of Camelot.
WoW is a PVE-focused game. WAR on the other hand is RvR-focused game.
Yes, the quests feel abit Everquest-esque at times but you can always PvP your way to the top. ;)

And Darkfall won't take WoW down since Darkfall is a niche. It's not for everyone.

[Angry-Khan]

I was in open beta all week, had no problems getting in. Though i dont see how having problems getting in is an issue with the game itself. The servers where FLOODED the first day, every single one was full.

I will pick darker more mature graphics over wows animated ones anyday. Graphics only need to be good enough for immersion, more is just fluff, and the graphics are plenty immersive.

In a summary the game is wow with a larger lean towards pvp and more focus on teamwork with the three different archetypes (tank dps heals) than with who has the better gear and the most cooldowns. There are also alot of better ideas when it comes to pve experience.

Though the game is pretty mediocre atm it has no glaring flaws like most other releases and shows alot of promise/room for growth. Very solid game and i will be playing come the non-CE headstart, which is 2 days from now.

[Spineless_DoO]

If your a hardcore DF fan then WAR is only a temp home for you at best. We are talking about 2 very different calibur of players in both titles. While WAR does offer alot of action for pvpers to keep them buisy for now it will never fill the gap your average FFA, full loot pvper has been dealing with for a few years. Take it for what it is. Technicly its the most stable game released so far. The client is "ok" and the servers are pretty good. The game supports 100vs 100 with little problems out of the door on most machines. There has not been a game to date that has run this well at release for mass pvp. L2 was horrible at release. It had hudge memory leaks and ran like pud at first.

[Suitepee]

At least WAR won't be as bad as Age of Conan.

From now on I'm using the argument "Yeah this game is bad,but it's better than Age of Conan!" :lmao:

[pkslayde]

While a bunch had problems getting in, there are also a LOT of people that were in open beta that are saying that Warhammer is best MMO since World of Warcraft. You cant just look at a section of people and make wide assumptions about the entire population, come on.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/201499/page/1

I see the majority in that thread declare that WAR is best MMORPG ever released. It will be a success, no doubt about it.

Not that I am advocating it at all. I am just not blind to whats going on. I am not even buying WAR when it releases (maybe will buy it in 5 months), but I am not in denial that there are a SHITLOAD of very pleased WAR fanatics right now who all played open beta and are going apeshit how awesome they think it is.

I would rather wait for Darkfall...

war was shit all throughout beta ( i was in from alpha) it was looking very promissing right up untill the point that EA took a hold of it. Now any RPG EA walks near turns to shit (EA has the parallel universe of the midas touch. Instead it turns everything they touch into shit.) Take UO for example, back when it was Ultima it was great you could do what you wanted when you wanted but with a good action and consequence system. When money grubbing EA took over they droped open pvp in a PvP based game. they released their signature "shitty expansions every mounth!" then suprise suprise players all left to free shards.

Now, back to war. EA saw the money WoW was pulling in and decided lets make the game really similar to wow. It pained me to say this because i trolled (like a fanboi) other trollers when they said this was a wow clone. but truthfully they were right. EA wanted to make money really fast. so instead of making the next gen they copied the wow (o and the chicken machnic pissed me the fuck off. i have an idea lets punish high level plaers in a FvF game for killing other players that are lower levels).

[GRCPan]

Well if we are talking pvp it has better pvp than aoc and wow but still its not a good game.

[pkslayde]

If your a hardcore DF fan then WAR is only a temp home for you at best. We are talking about 2 very different calibur of players in both titles. While WAR does offer alot of action for pvpers to keep them buisy for now it will never fill the gap your average FFA, full loot pvper has been dealing with for a few years. Take it for what it is. Technicly its the most stable game released so far. The client is "ok" and the servers are pretty good. The game supports 100vs 100 with little problems out of the door on most machines. There has not been a game to date that has run this well at release for mass pvp. L2 was horrible at release. It had hudge memory leaks and ran like pud at first.

there are still good free pre-expansion shards for UO.

the best one to date with about 120,000 players 1k active at a time. is uogamers.com

[pkslayde]

Well if we are talking pvp it has better pvp than aoc and wow but still its not a good game.

besides the chicken mechnic

[Ultimo]

You all laugh about the baby with no arms and legs, but I actually know a guy that was born without arms and legs. I took candy from him all the time. Now look, he goes around preaching motivation to emo kids and shows them with hard work you can do anything (he throws footballs with the stubs...its righteous).

[Painweaver]

WARHAMMER Online fails

Insert sarcastic "Surprise!" here.

[GRCPan]

besides the chicken mechnic

Well the game is meant for rvr not for open pvp.

[Wufiavelli]

I am not sure how much it compares to wow since I barely played wow. but the art styles in a lot of areas seems different enough. Not to mention the 800 pound guerrilla in the room where you are allowed to lvl via pvp. Also the PQ. Those 2 factors a lone seems enough to make it not as insane a wow clone as other games coming out besides the fact they are both levels based games and blatantly ripped off UI.

Combat is really slowly pased which I did not like and kind of detracted from the fun. But the atmosphere of the world was pretty good, a tad cartoonish but things were very cinamatic and did a lot to pull you into the warhammer Universe. YOu really felt like you were on a battle front the entire time.

The Quests layout were pretty straight forward and easy, which help with getting them done fast but kind of took a way from exploring. Also alot of the terrain was not the most interesting to explore. The Purple mountains of the orcs was a little too cartoonish/wowish for me. But i really like most of the order and chaos areas.

RvR was fun at times, but mostly concisted of zerg battles or just killing NPCs during late night raids. Battle scenerios were also ok, but i do not normally enjoy that type of PvP.

All and all it is a good solid and stable PvP game that will make them a lot of money. One of the most innovative things it does which a lot of people do not mention is allow you to gain xp via different options besides a quests treadmill. PQ quests I think are a good idea and basically are organized grinding with a storyline and game mechanics attached. Why it took years to figure something like this out is beyond me.

[GRCPan]

Well art-wise wow is a clone of warhammer after all.

[pkslayde]

Well art-wise wow is a clone of warhammer after all.

blizard got seued for stealing arrt and characters from warhammer and lost

[pkslayde]

Well the game is meant for rvr not for open pvp.

rvr run down a tier in the opponents tier and you get turned into a chicken

[Mippoose]

...if Darkfall fails.

Heretic!

THOU SHALT BE SMITE'TH'd BY THE MIGHTY BRANHAMMER!

[Lethn]

You'll all come crawling back when they announce the beginning of beta and claim you've been here for years, just like you did when the Gameplay video came out.

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[Youknowho]

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[GRCPan]

blizard got seued for stealing arrt and characters from warhammer and lost

The ones making the art for warcraft have stated that they have been inspired by the warhammer art.

[Skyborn]

I can't believe none of you caught this...

Or is "in the mouth" equivalent to possession?

When I am in someone's mouth they own me... :D

[Drunkenork]

...beta's over...

I'm at a loss for this game. I want to play the Order faction and make a fighter, but I don't want to play a dwarf. Argghhh...class-based PvP is a win-lose game of chance. You either find a class you like, or you find nothing at all, and I found nothing. I hate being locked into having to use certain weapons, armor, and spells, I want to ability to make my own char.

Still, the game is good and I might pick it up...if Darkfall fails.

Being locked into play does suck.

[Milo Hobgoblin]

Strange.. I thought it just failed because its a boring game.

[Enerzeal]

I currently have alot of time on my hands, and I am seriously in need of any form of MMO. So I decided to view some youtube vids of WAR, looks too boring by half. So another beast from the abyss rears its ugly head, this beast is named WoW... I am considering going back to WoW... *Cries*

[Nixation]

What I don't understand is that EQ2 doesn't get its PvE respect.. it has good pve, which is why I don't play it. Eq2 came a little too late..

[Spinewire]

Wouldn't taking candy from a limbless baby be impossible, since it couldn't possibly have the candy in the first place? Or is "in the mouth" equivalent to possession?
Masterfull derail

[Nasty]

Warhammer doesn't interest me one bit. I've tried, but the cookiecutter classes/races and the (probably EA's fault) continuous copying of WoW just turned me off.

I'll play some WoW and maybe some more AoC until DFO. Gonna pass on WAR.

[Hardlinemonk]

Only in forumfall will you see such sarcasm yet seriousness with the phrase "take candy from a baby" / "take candy from a baby with no limbs."

[Jester814]

Class based games and PvP in general are fail. That said, I'm a Chaos Chosen on server Badlands named Glave ;)