The computer I just ordered.

[Kabes]

Hopefully it is good enough to compete..

Any suggestions, opinions, and critisism is welcome. Thanks!


Ram - OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Micron D9 Chip Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR10662GK

Motherboard - ASUS P5Q LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400

Video - EVGA 512-P3-N873-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported

Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s

CPU Cooler - ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler

[Wreatch]

no other reason to post this except to get +7 to your epeen.

GG

[emasame]

naice, seems just like my bro's comp.
total price?

[Kabes]

$680 is the final cost.. That includes thermal gel, case, fans, and a couple cables.

[alfaroverall]

$680 for that? Nice.

[Kabes]

no other reason to post this except to get +7 to your epeen.

GG

Anyone who buys a new computer is happy :)

This computer is being built specifically for the release of this game so it only seems right to post the specs here.

[Bombay1361]

what powersupply did you end up getting?

[Ankh]

Ram - OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Micron D9 Chip Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR10662GK

Now this right here is what I call only two gigabytes of ram, ram is dirt fucking cheap, why not get FOUR? You wouldn't miss those extra bucks, but you WILL miss the extra ram.

Other than that it's a perfectly good system.

[Warhawkz]

We care :lmao:

[Kabes]

I checked with a few calculators and settled on a 420w power supply that came with a APEVIA X-Gear ATXB5KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case. I had to buy a couple Molex to SATA adapters to make it work though.

It could of been bigger but my load falls well below 420w.. If I need a bigger power supply I will just have to bite the bullet.

[Saturday Saint]

That looks pretty nice. I'm going to be getting a new computer probably around March (Cheaper parts). Similar to your computer, but with two 9800GTX's, XFX. Possibly Factory OC'd. And 4 GB RAM (PC2 8500). I'm going between that processor you have there and the Q6600. Probably will get the Q6600, it's supposed to OC easy, so I figure I can get 4 cores at 3.0 GHz at the same price of two.

I'm hoping by March that will be sub-$1000.

I agree with Ankh, though, I'd grab an extra 2 gigs of RAM. And get a better Power Supply. A surplus of power never hurt anyone, and case supplies have a tendency to suck.

[Kabes]

Now this right here is what I call only two gigabytes of ram, ram is dirt fucking cheap, why not get FOUR? You wouldn't miss those extra bucks, but you WILL miss the extra ram.

Other than that it's a perfectly good system.

I actually have a spare set of
OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit .

Ive always been under the impression that XP wont give you a perfomance increase with anything above 2 though..

[Saturday Saint]

A 32-bit operating system won't get a boost from anything above 3.2 GB, so if you're not running 64-bit Vista, just get 3 GB.

[Bombay1361]

i thought with that card you needed a 450w power supply, minimum...it just seems to me at least that the 420w power supply is way to small.

[Davinchy]

it's not just the stated size of the psu that is too weak. apevia is not a great power supply maker. what model is the case I'll look and see what the 12 v raill is. I'm guessing 18 amps total. that is waaay to little for that computer.

The rest is fine but absolutely get a bigger psu. here is a good one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151027

of all the things to skimp on a psu is not the one thing you shoudln't.

anyway good luck with your computer I'm sure it'll do nicely

[Tomaj]

Hopefully it is good enough to compete..

Any suggestions, opinions, and critisism is welcome. Thanks!


Ram - OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Micron D9 Chip Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR10662GK

Motherboard - ASUS P5Q LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400

Video - EVGA 512-P3-N873-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported

Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s

CPU Cooler - ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler

i would have opted for 2x2GB memory sticks instead seems like waste but you wouldnt have to update as soon. and im not compleatly shure byt from what i see the video card look ok but not as good as it could be. could be wrong though. and last WTF do you need a 500GB hard drive for? i have 80 and i havent used half of it yet. other than that looks awsoem should serve you well.

[Bombay1361]

i would have opted for 2x2GB memory sticks instead seems like waste but you wouldnt have to update as soon. and im not compleatly shure byt from what i see the video card look ok but not as good as it could be. could be wrong though. and last WTF do you need a 500GB hard drive for? i have 80 and i havent used half of it yet. other than that looks awsoem should serve you well.

dude, i'm sry but 500gig hdd is a must nowadays. I have two hdd adding up to 250gigs and i have about 30 gigs left.

[Kabes]

Good catch on the power supply.. I just found the specs you were stating here http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=512-P3-N873-AR&pwindow=specs&family=GeForce%209%20Series%20Family im glad I posted it on here.. :)

Odd how every single calculator I have used said I was well within tolerance. Whats another $60 though... lol

[emasame]

dude, i'm sry but 500gig hdd is a must nowadays. I have two hdd adding up to 250gigs and i have about 30 gigs left.

im using a 20gb, somehow im managing.
i got 1gb left.

[Davinchy]

wow.. I have 20 gigs of music on my ipod.

[emasame]

wow.. I have 20 gigs of music on my ipod.

im using a 2gb ipod.
thats kinda hard to maintain.

[Kabes]

I just chucked this onto the order..

Rosewill Stallion Series RD600N-2SB-SL-BK 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC

[Davinchy]

I'm not trying to be an ass but. Rosewill is also not a top of the line psu supplier. For instance that psu you listed has 44 amps on the 12v rails. the 550 watt psu from seasonic has 68 amps.

The 12 v support almost all of the components in your computer.

Just food for thought

[alfaroverall]

dude, i'm sry but 500gig hdd is a must nowadays. I have two hdd adding up to 250gigs and i have about 30 gigs left.
...lol? I have a 250 GB HD, 25 GB is taken by my recovery partition alone. I have a lot of random crap on here that I never use and I still have 123 free GB. Delete your porn once in a while jeez.

[5%Luck]

I dont know ASUS has let me down in the past. Its a great board realy but I picked one up a few years back with a 8 year plan. I would buy the current processor and when the next one comes out , drops in price id pick that one up to save a bunch of dough. That next processor cost as much as my whole new system even today. My new system is 10X as good too although that possessor(2nd one) would have bought me a few years or more it never dropped in price! I was stuck with a 1.8 ghz atholon for an extra 3 years!

Other than this its a quality board!

[Salaman]

Even if you don't use all the space on a large hard drive it will still perform better due to the higher data density (not as much physical part movement in order to access the same amount of data).

But yeah, don't skimp on the power supply and get a reliable brand. When they fail, they have a nasty tendency to take other parts of your system with them.

[Spart]

i would have opted for 2x2GB memory sticks instead seems like waste but you wouldnt have to update as soon. and im not compleatly shure byt from what i see the video card look ok but not as good as it could be. could be wrong though. and last WTF do you need a 500GB hard drive for? i have 80 and i havent used half of it yet. other than that looks awsoem should serve you well.

80GB HDD? What, do you not use your computer? Does it just sit their looking abandoned?

Anyway, as has been mentioned before, get 4GB of RAM, and install Vista 64 bit. With a machine like that, you won't run into the usual problems of "Lol my pentium 3 computer can't run Vista, it's shit". 64 bit with 4GB of RAM will allow you an extra 800MB of RAM, which completely makes up for the difference between the requirements of Vista and XP.

[iLoveMonkeys]

gratz :rolleyes:

[Viluin]

You should've gotten 4GB of RAM (2x2GB). Soon you'll be wanting more RAM, and adding in another 2x1GB means you'll have 4 DIMMs, which puts a lot of stress on your memory controller.

Also, I hope those OCZ Reaper modules will not conflict with your motherboard / CPU cooler like they usually do.


Also HD4850 and HD4870 > 9800GTX+.

[Lictor]

A 32-bit operating system won't get a boost from anything above 3.2 GB, so if you're not running 64-bit Vista, just get 3 GB.

What about 64bit Windows XP?

[Viluin]

What about 64bit Windows XP?

XP 64-bit is awesome, except that GAYAPPLE purposefully does not support it with iTunes by putting an OS restriction on the installer. There are ways around it, but still.

And don't listen to that guy, never ever get 3GB. You'll want 2 RAM modules for dual-channel mode. Last time I checked there were no 1.5GB RAM modules.

[Lictor]

And don't listen to that guy, never ever get 3GB. You'll want 2 RAM modules for dual-channel mode. Last time I checked there were no 1.5GB RAM modules.

And what about this situation: I got 1 GB of DDR RAM (2x 512 MB) and think about buying another 2GB (2x 1GB). It will totally give me 3GB of RAM in 4 DIMMs. What do you think?

[Viluin]

And what about this situation: I got 1 GB of DDR RAM (2x 512 MB) and think about buying another 2GB (2x 1GB). It will totally give me 3GB of RAM in 4 DIMMs. What do you think?

I think 4 DIMMs stresses your memory controller too much, eliminating the ability to overclock and possibly forcing you to underclock your memory.

[Lictor]

I think 4 DIMMs stresses your memory controller too much, eliminating the ability to overclock and possibly forcing you to underclock your memory.

I don't want to OC my CPU. Why should I underclock my memory with 4 DIMMs? :confused:

[Viluin]

I don't want to OC my CPU. Why should I underclock my memory with 4 DIMMs? :confused:

Because your memory controller might not handle 4 DIMMs very well. It puts twice as much stress on your MC.

[Arkh]

What's your cpu batch, VID and minimum Vcore needed for 3.6 Ghz ?
And overclock. It's a damn Intel, it's easy and safe to clock if you don't do something stupid (like keeping Vcore on auto or trying 4.0+ Ghz directly).

About the CPU cooler, you should have bought something which use 120mm fans : less noise for better perfs.

[Spineless_DoO]

I checked with a few calculators and settled on a 420w power supply that came with a APEVIA X-Gear ATXB5KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case. I had to buy a couple Molex to SATA adapters to make it work though.

It could of been bigger but my load falls well below 420w.. If I need a bigger power supply I will just have to bite the bullet.

Your talking about less then 80$ for a PSU for that rig. Any of the Antecs will do the job reliably. Its not that big of a deal. IMO you should get a new PSU now because the PSU you are going to get in that case is anything but a true 420w. You are probably going to meter it under 360.

Its a pretty nice gamer on a 22inch under at about 1680x1050 as long as you dont run vista. If you are running vista you are loosing out. With less then 4 gigs there is no point. Running vista 32 is just a waste all together. 64 is about the only viable option atm paired with 4 gigs of ram.

[Kabes]

You should've gotten 4GB of RAM (2x2GB). Soon you'll be wanting more RAM, and adding in another 2x1GB means you'll have 4 DIMMs, which puts a lot of stress on your memory controller.

Also, I hope those OCZ Reaper modules will not conflict with your motherboard / CPU cooler like they usually do.


Also HD4850 and HD4870 > 9800GTX+.

The reaper chips were on the QVL for the board. I originally purchassed the platinum and now have them for backup.

[Pcheez]

Im thinking of buying a new comp.

Just seems like a waste paying less than 2k if you gonna get one.

But maybe ivej ust been a laptop freak for too long, the non upgradeability is getting to me.

What kinda system could i get for 2 grand ?

[Kabes]

Im thinking of buying a new comp.

Just seems like a waste paying less than 2k if you gonna get one.

But maybe ivej ust been a laptop freak for too long, the non upgradeability is getting to me.

What kinda system could i get for 2 grand ?

Honestly 2k is way to much.. Spend 1k and save the rest for upgrades down the road. Unless you are trying to pimp out your computer with liquid cooling, chrome wires, and all the unnecessary stuff..

[The-Nit]

That looks pretty nice. I'm going to be getting a new computer probably around March (Cheaper parts). Similar to your computer, but with two 9800GTX's, XFX. Possibly Factory OC'd. And 4 GB RAM (PC2 8500). I'm going between that processor you have there and the Q6600. Probably will get the Q6600, it's supposed to OC easy, so I figure I can get 4 cores at 3.0 GHz at the same price of two.

I'm hoping by March that will be sub-$1000.

I agree with Ankh, though, I'd grab an extra 2 gigs of RAM. And get a better Power Supply. A surplus of power never hurt anyone, and case supplies have a tendency to suck.

hah.,.. the classic ill just wait for the prices to drop...
As soon as you buy a computer its outdated. And the next week its available cheaper...
You can never win...

[Bombay1361]

hah.,.. the classic ill just wait for the prices to drop...
As soon as you buy a computer its outdated. And the next week its available cheaper...
You can never win...

the glory of pc gaming

[alfaroverall]

hah.,.. the classic ill just wait for the prices to drop...
As soon as you buy a computer its outdated. And the next week its available cheaper...
You can never win...
Meh. You have a given amount that you're willing to spend and a given amount of power that you want to obtain. If the cost of getting that power is more than you're willing to spend, wait. Sure, your computer will be technically outdated, but really, who cares? I plan to buy a new computer every 4 or 5 years, assuming that innovations in technology continue at the pace that they are now. Sure, you're a little strained in that last year of use, but it really doesn't matter that much.

[Mippoose]

I checked with a few calculators and settled on a 420w power supply that came with a APEVIA X-Gear ATXB5KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case. I had to buy a couple Molex to SATA adapters to make it work though.

It could of been bigger but my load falls well below 420w.. If I need a bigger power supply I will just have to bite the bullet.

BAWWWWWWWWWW!!!!

For fuck sakes.

Who does that?

Really?

[Lethn]

Now this right here is what I call only two gigabytes of ram, ram is dirt fucking cheap, why not get FOUR? You wouldn't miss those extra bucks, but you WILL miss the extra ram.

2 Gig of RAM is a perfectly acceptable amount even for rendering and modelling the only time when you want more RAM is when you want to be a complete RAM whore really, or for games that need more than 2 gig.

[Solrac]

it's not just the stated size of the psu that is too weak. apevia is not a great power supply maker. what model is the case I'll look and see what the 12 v raill is. I'm guessing 18 amps total. that is waaay to little for that computer.

The rest is fine but absolutely get a bigger psu. here is a good one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151027

of all the things to skimp on a psu is not the one thing you shoudln't.

anyway good luck with your computer I'm sure it'll do nicely

noob question here about the PSU, according to that card's minimun specs these are:
Minimum of a 450 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 26 Amp Amps.)

and the PSU you posted has 4 +12V rails @18A... my question is do they add up to make up a total of 72A (or 36A/36A in case of SLI/Crossfire)? or else how is it supposed to support the vid card that needs 26 amp current?

[Kabes]

Ok.. I cancelled my Rosewill PSU..

How about this one?

PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

[Viluin]

The reaper chips were on the QVL for the board. I originally purchassed the platinum and now have them for backup.

Large CPU coolers more often than not conflict with the reapers. They have these retarded elevated heatsinks which I still don't get the point of.

[Bombay1361]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015

[Arkh]

Ok.. I cancelled my Rosewill PSU..

How about this one?

PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
It's good. Like A+ good. The only drawback of PC P&C's PSU is they aren't modular (yeah I know, some people don't like modular PSU).
But when they say 610W, you have near 610W, not 340W and a PSU which fuses at 400W load.
And, IIRC, they use single +12V channel and not false multi +12V which are in fact only one.

[Kabes]

It's good. Like A+ good. The only drawback of PC P&C's PSU is they aren't modular (yeah I know, some people don't like modular PSU).
But when they say 610W, you have near 610W, not 340W and a PSU which fuses at 400W load.
And, IIRC, they use single +12V channel and not false multi +12V which are in fact only one.

Not a bad price either $87.00 with a $20 mail in rebate.. They really seem to stand by single rail also.. Ive learned a lot about PSU in the last 24 hours lol!

[Ulver]

I'm also interested in purchasing a 2nd rig solely for darkfall & frapping. Unfortunately I'm not tech savy. I'm looking to spend around a grand. I'd almost pay someone that could recommend me with the best gear for price & already pre-built. Want to help?