What about PvE

[bloddyn]

All is in the tittle.

DF is only a PvP game or are they planning some PvE area/dungeon ?
I'm asking this question because i'm not just a pvp player, i like both challenge against players and environment.

[Jonkar]

There's plenty of PvE to go around. I wouldn't be surprised if the PvE in this game is more fun then any of the other MMO's.

[Mpetayne]

All is in the tittle.

DF is only a PvP game or are they planning some PvE area/dungeon ?
I'm asking this question because i'm not just a pvp player, i like both challenge against players and environment.

Yea sure.. I just hope you don't mind my clan killing you while you attempt the watcher...

[LanMandragon]

read the faq.
There will be extensive pvp available both in the forms of regular mobs mobs that build cities dungeons wars lead by npcs.

[pfea]

i like pve cause then u can get armor and stuff but if u do thaht in pvp they will kill u if they se u because u touk there geare:bang:


PS i am sorry for my speling i am relly bad att speling eanglish sorry

[yamisniper]

i like pve cause then u can get armor and stuff but if u do thaht in pvp they will kill u if they se u because u touk there geare:bang:


PS i am sorry for my speling i am relly bad att speling eanglish sorry

dont worry i can read it

[keeperofstars]

DF Pve is top notch and is a huge part of the game, even more so then pvp. If you are wanting a great pve game then DF will be your heaven, just have to learn to deal with the random pk group.

The AI is top notch, the mobs change weapons based on the situation, they go after the person who is most beneficial to a group. aka no agro based on damage / heal ratios, more on good logic. They will build their own forts and spawn stronger mobs. (mainly humanoid) Animals are actually intellegent. If you and your friends run up on a wolf it won't even fight it will auto run away cause it knows it cant win, so it wont even agro. Yet if its just you then it might fight. Or if it has its pack they might. But none of this 6 people vs 1 npc they know to run before the fight even starts. Granted most of the time they are running to get reinforcements and then come back after you.

Each clan / area of mobs will remember you. So while you might not be KOS to goblins, if you attack camp A of goblins, and then head back they will remember you and you'll be KOS to them while yet goblins elsewhere in the world will still see you friendly. Now granted as you kill more you will probly be wide spread KOS, but at first means, its different.

There is an article in the news section about ryubite(spelling error) and the desert prince that lives there. He has a massive undead army and you can't even get into his tomb without collecting keys from his different generals which are all spread out in different strongholds. Was hinted you might even have to bring siege gear to have a chance at breaking into the stronghold. So you will have to seige npc's even.

I could go on but there are several links to info about this in the news section just scroll back some.

[Kemintiri]

There's always PvE...
But this is not what this game is about though.

[yamisniper]

There's always PvE...
But this is not what this game is about though.

actulyl yea it is this game is about pve/pvp/and crafting but its based around pvp

[Dorundain]

There's a portion of the gameplay trailer that shows some PvE action, and the 5 most recently-release screenshots...

http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/dc_01
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/dc_05
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/dc_04
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/dc_03
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/dc_02

... are all focused on PvE.

[Kemintiri]

actulyl yea it is this game is about pve/pvp/and crafting but its based around pvp
Yes, but PvE is yet another feature.
This is not a PvE focused game. It's not like WoW or Tabula Rasa, where the PvE experience is what makes most of the game.

[keeperofstars]

Yes, but PvE is yet another feature.
This is not a PvE focused game. It's not like WoW or Tabula Rasa, where the PvE experience is what makes most of the game.

Actually you are pretty wrong.

This game has the same if not more PvE then it does PvP.

That is one big misconception people have about DF, while yes a core part of DF is seiging and pvping. It is not the focus of the game. The game is more like UO where there was a nice balance of both.

So you are pretty far off, and you will find yourself doing more pve then you do in WoW, but at the same time heading off to a 2 hour seige after you finish that dungeon crawl.

[Athan.F]

Actually you are pretty wrong.

This game has the same if not more PvE then it does PvP.

That is one big misconception people have about DF, while yes a core part of DF is seiging and pvping. It is not the focus of the game. The game is more like UO where there was a nice balance of both.

So you are pretty far off, and you will find yourself doing more pve then you do in WoW, but at the same time heading off to a 2 hour seige after you finish that dungeon crawl.

True.

The game is based on FFA.

That's why you(people whose names I can't remember and am too lazy to check) would think that it's based on PvP.

Tasos has said that the game has A LOT of PvE and some extremely huge dungeons with epic battles and quests, you name it.

People seem to be more focused on the PvP in the game 'because' the game is FFA and has full loot.

It's a pure 50/50.

[DaveDFF]

There's always PvE...
But this is not what this game is about though.

You are so wrong....

[Abbadon]

If I want pve, I will be on my console.

this game is total failure if it had no pve...


sure cant be an mmorpg without it...


but hey, maybe they are making a mmofps...who knows.

[Selzi]

This game is boasting some of the best PvE of any MMO ever. Intelligent, roaming, completely free AI that can get stronger if left alone? I haven't heard of that before.

Have you tried reading the lore? What they're doing is insane! After reading it again I had to make a firm choice whether I wanted to start PvE'ing before I did any PvP. Remember certain things can only be done once (killing a boss or important character can only happen once), would you really want to miss out on being part of the lore? If you just PvP you'll be completely left behind.

Right now I'm trying to choose between Kasdim or Rubaiyat. Getting the powerful word stones would be great but fighting off hordes of undead and liches in scary environments... I don't know if that can be topped.

[ePeen]

Also, if you farm too many NPC mobs in one area they will migrate to a different part of the world. If you don't keep their numbers down and let them grow, they will start to build up a fort or village. This game has no static spawns and the AI is so revolutionary compared to all other MMO's. PvE will be a huge part of the game, I wouldn't worry too much if I were you.

[womble]

That is one big misconception people have about DF, while yes a core part of DF is seiging and pvping. It is not the focus of the game. The game is more like UO where there was a nice balance of both.


I think it's better to point out that the game is a sandbox where *you* set the focus.

If you want to throw down the Lich King, work towards that. You might have to weld a PvP nation together, and you'll certainly have to fight off PKers at some point, but for you, that's not the focus.

If you want to unite the human Kingdoms of Agon, you'll be focussing on siege PvP.

If you want to be the scourge of the eastern seaboard, you'll have yet a different focus.

The game is a toolbox for *stuff*. Or, at least that seems to be the designers' intention. Hopefully that intention will survive the transition to reality.

[Leoplum]

personally i'm hoping for some instance-esque pve group challenges, seen in games like WoW, DDO etc. Darkfall IS a different kind of mmo, but they should still include great things like strategy-intense boss battles and raid encounters. You can't rely on pvp for the only big "endgame" thing. By "endgame thing" i mean some big event that more expirienced players do, as there really is no level cap in this.

[thekornplant]

if you read the features and lore you'll see that there are lots of bosses that will be owning very strong items so looting them will be very helpful. there will also be dragons and there will be dungeons that are different from the rest of the world because they will have a loading time.

[Zagzyg]

personally i'm hoping for some instance-esque pve group challenges, seen in games like WoW, DDO etc. Darkfall IS a different kind of mmo, but they should still include great things like strategy-intense boss battles and raid encounters. You can't rely on pvp for the only big "endgame" thing. By "endgame thing" i mean some big event that more expirienced players do, as there really is no level cap in this.

Friendly Fire will make those big boss raids somewhat interesting I'm sure, for a change.

The game claims to be all about freedom, andfrom what they've said, there will be vast amounts of PvE content; it's just that a lot of the community just focuses onthe PvP aspect, making it seem like one big FPS battle.

[KruniacZio]

What about PvE? Obviously it will have PvE, or it would literally just be players knifing each other with newbie weapons trying to get some loot.

Also, if mobs actually multiply and start their own cities, this game will be the ultimate. :)

[Curcio]

PvE will be even more exciting because mobs do more than stand around and wait for someone to come by. And on top of it if you die you will lose your gear because they will take it from you!

[Ripper Darkoak]

personally i'm hoping for some instance-esque pve group challenges, seen in games like WoW, DDO etc.

In my opinion instances destroy what MMORPGs represent. Also, for a "sand-box" game, instances are a complete opposite of the spirit of the game. You cannot say to me, "Hey, do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you want... Except over in that cave over there. That's a special cave and everyone that goes inside sees it as their own." So that means, I cannot follow the group in, stalk silently behind them and as they are set upon by foul creatures, kill em all and let the gods sort em out. Yeah, not what I think this game is about.

[Heavygain]

The way I see it, Darkfall is not limited in the least to the traditional use of the terms pve and pvp. They still apply but there are so many variables in the game that it's just not entirely accurate.

[eBawls]

Ive also heard that "The Watcher" will be played by a Dev. So you can look forward to raid encounters with "The Watcher" to be different EVERYTIME. Unlike WoW bosses.

[nathanpinard]

Friendly Fire will make those big boss raids somewhat interesting I'm sure, for a change.

Not to mention the dungeons are not instanced. Meaning...everyone loads in the same dungeon. Meaning...clans murder other clans while they are on raid encounters.

That to me is just sweet.

[Leoplum]

In my opinion instances destroy what MMORPGs represent. Also, for a "sand-box" game, instances are a complete opposite of the spirit of the game. You cannot say to me, "Hey, do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you want... Except over in that cave over there. That's a special cave and everyone that goes inside sees it as their own." So that means, I cannot follow the group in, stalk silently behind them and as they are set upon by foul creatures, kill em all and let the gods sort em out. Yeah, not what I think this game is about.


I said instance-ESQE, as in, not actually instanced but similar in difficulty and strategy. There's no reason why we shouldn't have fun and interesting group dungeons. Group strategy is one of the great things about MMOs, and getting a tank/healer etc in this would be very easy as there are no classes.

[nathanpinard]

Yes, but since the AI is in fact, an AI. The dungeon encounters won't ever be the same fight probably. No scripted encounters.

[Leoplum]

Yes, but since the AI is in fact, an AI. The dungeon encounters won't ever be the same fight probably. No scripted encounters.

yeah, but they could still make the monsters have certain abilites, fighting styles, strengths and weaknesses. They could also program the AI to behave in a certain way, but not necessarily scripted.

[Redox]

An MMO of this kind has to have some PvE to give the game more than one feel, I'm sure there'll be some legit stuff.

[thomastdh]

ther will "never" be a MMO without pve or pvp thats just unthinkable the fact thar u "clan" of AI can buidl city's them self is very nice and i can hear the story now of a legendary goblin been born in the far city of ....
that that goblin becomes a boss so old bosses will be PWND and new bosses will be born (living world) thats nice about them olso the fact that you can massacrate groups of NPC's is nice still the danger of pvp lies ahead which can sometimes (if u ask me ) a big pain in the ass but tho the nice system of boss fight in DF is rly nice (most of them are like world bosses in WoW)

[Hybriz]

ther will "never" be a MMO without pve or pvp thats just unthinkable the fact thar u "clan" of AI can buidl city's them self is very nice and i can hear the story now of a legendary goblin been born in the far city of ....
that that goblin becomes a boss so old bosses will be PWND and new bosses will be born (living world) thats nice about them olso the fact that you can massacrate groups of NPC's is nice still the danger of pvp lies ahead which can sometimes (if u ask me ) a big pain in the ass but tho the nice system of boss fight in DF is rly nice (most of them are like world bosses in WoW)

U know this for a fact? i dont remember reading it anywhere but it would be pretty awesome if u are correct:sly:

[Tagha]

I love the fact that it's FPS based. I can imagine the PvE will be alot like Oblivion.

[thebillyman]

True.

The game is based on FFA.

That's why you(people whose names I can't remember and am too lazy to check) would think that it's based on PvP.

Tasos has said that the game has A LOT of PvE and some extremely huge dungeons with epic battles and quests, you name it.

People seem to be more focused on the PvP in the game 'because' the game is FFA and has full loot.

It's a pure 50/50.
What does FFA stand for?

[Kran De Loy]

FFA: Free for All

Basically I guess you can say every man(or women) for themselves.

[thebillyman]

I see.

But to stay on topic, no where does it look like this game is strickly PvP. If you just read a little about the game, you can see that.

[Shivan]

I love the fact that it's FPS based. I can imagine the PvE will be alot like Oblivion.

yeah like Oblivion in 1st person and like Gothic in 3er person :D

[weedman420]

ya there cant really be no pve it would just be a grinding game vs people and that would be no fun and in most games that have pvp you have to do pve to even try to pvp or you would jsut get smashed