If this game is due out in 2008 why is news / previews for it so scarce?

[NapalmEnema]

Honestly the most I have heard about this game is word of mouth, and what I have read here since joining up to see what's up with it. Aside from that there is not much being talked about in major gaming sites like IGN or Gamespot etc.. The largest rumors I have heard is that this is simply vaporware and an elaborate hoax?

If this game is truly coming out in 2008, why is it so quiet for lack of a better term? All major gaming sites should have at least some information from the dev's available and be talking about it in some fashion or another?

Any reason for the silence that anyone is aware of? I know hype is great for it, but I think to truly grab a good playerbase more needs to be said about it and more needs to be shared with the masses.

What do you guys think? :ohno:

[attckdog]

They dont really "need" to release more info on the game. Look at the how many people are already dieing to play it without all the give aways! Why waste time making posts about the game when its gonna release soon. they have better things to do im sure.

[doma]

Because its an indie game and they have a marketing budget of 0 and like 1 "pr" guy.

And word of mouth seems to be doing just fine with spreading the word.

[NapalmEnema]

Even with one PR guy, sending a link over to a couple gamesites would generate more buzz for this game which isn't a bad thing.

I get the 'Indie game' thing, and I have seen the video, but it would take next to no effort to get some more info out there.

Didn't realize being curious about why more isn't spread about this game was a bad thing...

Sheesh - tough crowd.:rolleyes:

[Tyler]

The largest rumors I have heard is that this is simply vaporware and an elaborate hoax?

rumors? darkfallonline is a conspiracy. it's a program run by greek military think tankers... i don't know what sinister plot they have in mind, but were all involved.

[Denaton]

maby you need to look more... i have seen Darkfall nearly every were...


(OPS. Readed wrong ^^)

[KalTheo]

Nice double post.

I think the long development time coupled with the previous beta expectations that didn't work out have meant that the mainstream gaming sites you mention won't be following very closely till beta actually starts.

If you're patient, you'll see a lot happen in the next couple months. I've been here for 29 months, and there are people here who can claim 3 times that. :ohno::ohno:

[Surly]

It's like that episode of South Park where Cartman buys an amusement park. The less you let people see, the more they want, right? Right?!

Yeah... well... I guess the truth of the matter is that Aventurine is a small company and they don't give a flying fuck about your demands or their PR.

[attckdog]

Even with one PR guy, sending a link over to a couple gamesites would generate more buzz for this game which isn't a bad thing.

I get the 'Indie game' thing, and I have seen the video, but it would take next to no effort to get some more info out there.

Didn't realize being curious about why more isn't spread about this game was a bad thing...

Sheesh - tough crowd.:rolleyes:

well have you gone here

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=43318

Read all of that and tell me there aint enough information out there about it. If those oh so important gaming sites want info they can get it themselves!

[Aranin]

i notice that most people in the member # pissing contest are 40-60k ie pretty new. most of the older members really arent fussed with it.
i think its just them trying to establish themselves somehow, its pretty stupid tho tbh.

[attckdog]

i notice that most people in the member # pissing contest are 40-60k ie pretty new. most of the older members really arent fussed with it.
i think its just them trying to establish themselves somehow, its pretty stupid tho tbh.

No kidding, i been following for a while and have posted so few posts out of fear of the flame!

[daggorf]

:bang:They dont really "need" to release more info on the game. Look at the how many people are already dieing to play it without all the give aways! Why waste time making posts about the game when its gonna release soon. they have better things to do im sure.

Better things to do are you kidding me I've been waiting for this game to come out for months all me and my friends can think about is when its going to come out.:(:( this totally sucks if they had enough info to create that what is it like 7 minuets long the trailer why dont they just let it out I mean seriously why not:bang::bang::bang::confused::confused ::idea:

[attckdog]

:bang:

Better things to do are you kidding me I've been waiting for this game to come out for months all me and my friends can think about is when its going to come out.:(:( this totally sucks if they had enough info to create that what is it like 7 minuets long the trailer why dont they just let it out I mean seriously why not:bang::bang::bang::confused::confused ::idea:
I know exactly what you mean, reading all the stuff about DF ruined all other games for me. They are pressured to release a perfect games since they have had so long to work on it. Letting ppl down in any way at this point is nearly impossible

[Xez]

Honestly the most I have heard about this game is word of mouth, and what I have read here since joining up to see what's up with it.
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What do you guys think? :ohno:

At least you find the way. So whats wrong with it?

[illus10n]

Honestly the most I have heard about this game is word of mouth, and what I have read here since joining up to see what's up with it. Aside from that there is not much being talked about in major gaming sites like IGN or Gamespot etc.. The largest rumors I have heard is that this is simply vaporware and an elaborate hoax?

If this game is truly coming out in 2008, why is it so quiet for lack of a better term? All major gaming sites should have at least some information from the dev's available and be talking about it in some fashion or another?

Any reason for the silence that anyone is aware of? I know hype is great for it, but I think to truly grab a good playerbase more needs to be said about it and more needs to be shared with the masses.

What do you guys think? :ohno:

small and no pr team :/

[keeperofstars]

Cause the devs have said it a billion times, they will let the game talk for itself. No need to hype it, the community will do just fine.

Also all those "gaming" sites get paid to post that information about games. No need for the devs to waste money to post on IGN. Also IGN hates DF cause the devs refused to give them shit, after one of their "reviewers" came up with a bunch of b/s about the game.

And need I remind you the community has grown by around 60k members in 2-3 weeks cause of ONE 15 min gameplay video. How much more marketing needs to be done. Once beta starts everyone in the world will know about DF.

Also I rather have the devs focus on the game, instead of PR pimping we see where that got AoC all the devs ever did was waste time with PR. Yes they sold a bunch of boxes, but have since lost most of the player base cause of a buggy unfinished game.

[Jonkar]

With over 100K people signed on the forums, they don't really need PR.

[Mushukyou]

I think your member 108274 and should be a little more patient.

Who are you to post before me?
You're only 54899!!

[bertmcgirt]

I know exactly what you mean, reading all the stuff about DF ruined all other games for me. They are pressured to release a perfect games since they have had so long to work on it. Letting ppl down in any way at this point is nearly impossible

they had me hooked at full loot ffa.

[attckdog]

they had me hooked at full loot ffa.
No levels really set me off, also being allowed to learn 95 % or whatever of the spells out of 500 spells sounds good. OH and no auto targeting ! so basically this game rules ^^

[[LoD]Dhal]

Honestly the most I have heard about this game is word of mouth, and what I have read here since joining up to see what's up with it. Aside from that there is not much being talked about in major gaming sites like IGN or Gamespot etc.. The largest rumors I have heard is that this is simply vaporware and an elaborate hoax?

If this game is truly coming out in 2008, why is it so quiet for lack of a better term? All major gaming sites should have at least some information from the dev's available and be talking about it in some fashion or another?

Any reason for the silence that anyone is aware of? I know hype is great for it, but I think to truly grab a good playerbase more needs to be said about it and more needs to be shared with the masses.

What do you guys think? :ohno:

DF devs don't want to invest their $ in advertising like a hollywood film. they want to put out a game with pure functionality and make a name for themselves that way. they dont have the history or staff to dedicate enough time and money for advertising like a big company, and in the MMO market, big companies rule the real estate. so their best chance at succeeding is to start small and grow as/if the playerbase grows.

i can't think of a single MMO that has released in the last 11 years without a slew of problems, bugs, exploits, and imbalances. the gaming community for the type of demographic that will be interested in this game is comparatively small, and word of mouth will be a lot more influential than you might think..especially if the game lives up to the devs goals. #1 being no known issues on release.

[Vladar]

Just look at the quote in my signature, pretty much sums up the answer to the OP question.

[Jalik]

the level of awareness will skyrocket as soon as the game is available. more hype won't make the game any better so there's no need to increase the pressure. on the other hand frequent updates (postings, videos, screenshots) can always only show parts of the game. to make this part look as good as it really is needs time and care. it's not something you can do in 7 minutes! you can cause alot of damage by creating some sort of update that doesn't fulfill the expectations. So you can only show a tiny part of the game and at the same time you can make it worse by rushing it and ruin everything. the game looks and feels best if experienced as a whole, I'm sure. that's pobably why they want to let it speak for itself. they will start some sort of advertising (I think they will release around x-mas ;) don't worry. they most likely have some milestones on their list that have to be reached before they start talking to the media more extensively.

[thekornplant]

i think the way Aventurine goes with the publicity of the game is smart. they have a really large number of people already and this has been going from mouth to mouth with some info on a few sites and videos on youtube. Even if by game launch the numbers will not increase drastically it's not really a bad thing. A smaller number of people would mean a slower start, time to not overstress the servers and more accurate and professional data of game issues rather then thousands of whiners about non-essential stuff. After the more professional guinea pigs give some accurate data and things are fixed word will be spread about a good game and people will not leave as they did with games like Vanguard, AoC and so on. i'm sure to preorder the game whatever happens i'll take the risk even if it will not be perfect at the beginning it has potential and will be great soon i'm sure of it.

[Fledrel]

try
http://darkfallinfo.com/

should be enough to keep you busy till beta release

[tubelight]

The last rumor i heard is that all the devs work for the "Little Grey Men" and that once you pre-order or retail the game you will be abducted, taken to the moon and probed in places where the sun dont shine.

[Prol]

Any reason for the silence that anyone is aware of?

Any advertising should not be for hardcore DF.

And that entering carbears crowds which are able nothing, except a consuming popcorn and farming hundred thousands millions mobs. And then carebears will be everywhere write, what DF bad because them have killed and looted directly near bank.

DF - game for free people, instead of for advertising slaves.

[Selzi]

The information isn't scarce at all. There's more information for this game than any other unreleased game I know of.

Unfortunately it's all over 7 years old.

[nail]

closed beta will be enough information for all!

[SkuzzyG]

I know hype is great for it, but I think to truly grab a good playerbase more needs to be said about it and more needs to be shared with the masses.

What do you guys think? :ohno:

Screw the masses, they can play WoTLK or WAR or whatever. I want this game to have a core player base made up of fans that want the game play of Darkfall as it has been touted... PvP focused with full loot in an open world and a commitment to the sandbox ideal.

Once that framework is established and working I hope they can tempt the masses in. I just want them to do it by selling the game as is and not by making the game what the masses want.

[mercnet]

Because its an indie game and they have a marketing budget of 0 and like 1 "pr" guy.

And word of mouth seems to be doing just fine with spreading the word.

I have no clue where you get your information, but I would stop listening to it.

Razorwax started the devel, in Norway... Aventurine scooped them up, and razorwax moved to Greece where the game had been in devel for years now.

India has nothing to do with this game at all.

[mercnet]

i notice that most people in the member # pissing contest are 40-60k ie pretty new. most of the older members really arent fussed with it.
i think its just them trying to establish themselves somehow, its pretty stupid tho tbh.

40k here. registered 2.3 years ago. If that is "new" then ok.

I do not believe that number reflects join date. I could, however, be wrong.

[SkuzzyG]

I have no clue where you get your information, but I would stop listening to it.

Razorwax started the devel, in Norway... Aventurine scooped them up, and razorwax moved to Greece where the game had been in devel for years now.

India has nothing to do with this game at all.


'Indie' is common abbreviation of independent.

or were you trying to be funny?

[BladyKillher]

I have no clue where you get your information, but I would stop listening to it.

Razorwax started the devel, in Norway... Aventurine scooped them up, and razorwax moved to Greece where the game had been in devel for years now.

India has nothing to do with this game at all.

Indie as independent not part of big company etc., not India land of krishna, jogys etc.

[Dreamy La'Poof]

I think your member 108274 and should be a little more patient.Is there a correlation between member number and patience? (hint: NO)

I'm currently playing a couple MMO's. The word I hear on the gaming streets is precisely what the OP states; "the game is a legend".

The video and open beta apps have brought some back to believing in DF. But to say that this game is getting publicity enough via word of mouth is really missing the forest for the trees. There's a BIG world of games out there. Step back from the DF forum and take a look around at the competition...there is lots.

If DF does not advertise it will fail. That is not disputable. It's almost laughable that some of you think this game is going to just cater to the hardcore PvPer's, will be free of the paying masses, and still be able to support itself while putting out a class product. Well, people don't work for free, stuff costs money (good stuff costs more money) and businesses aren't charities.

[Prol]

India has nothing to do with this game at all.

Not India game, but indie game :o)

Indie game - game which is developed by enthusiasts with the small budget at own risk

[Largion]

Not India game, but indie game :o)

Indie game - game which is developed by enthusiasts with the small budget at own risk

Not sure what you call a small budget. If I remember correct they took a lone for over 20mil $.

[Prol]

If DF does not advertise it will fail.

This error of the slave to advertising.

DF is positioned as game for hardcorers. Hardcorers do not read pink snivels on IGN and other pop servers. Hardcorers tell each other Hardcorers behind a box beer about really abrupt games, such as DF. Hardcorers do not trust advertising, Hardcorers trust only to another Hardcorers.

Death to a advertising popsa!!!

[T-Man]

The largest rumors I have heard is that this is simply vaporware and an elaborate hoax?

rumors? darkfallonline is a conspiracy. it's a program run by greek military think tankers... i don't know what sinister plot they have in mind, but were all involved.

I think it's a mind control project. To see how many people they can get to believe that there is actually a game.

I know I'm hooked in to their maniacal schemes.

[CosmosEmeritus]

they had me hooked at full loot ffa.

They had me at 'hello'

[Signus]

Because its an indie game and they have a marketing budget of 0 and like 1 "pr" guy.

And word of mouth seems to be doing just fine with spreading the word.

That doesn't explain the lack of a few interviews that were promised to us during the summer, and a few people who visited the studio, and why the Q&A with Brannoc was pulled and never put back up.

[kiasta]

Well they can always focus on pr AFTER the release. It's not like there is no player base already. Youtube is a HUGE marketing tool already so why spend the money on some stupid b/s marketing sites like IGN who actually goes to IGN anyways? I only used to because of the strategy guides for ff7 before they required you to pay for them.

They have made a post on mmorpg.com and posted their game play video on youtube which should be enough for a starting player base. Once the game is released people will see how great the game is and post more footage on youtube it will grow and grow. And all without having to spend a dime. It is not that hard to market for free, they just want to spend their time on more important things right now.

Apparently word of mouth, youtube and mmorpg is working pretty well, so that should be sufficient for now.

[keeperofstars]

That doesn't explain the lack of a few interviews that were promised to us during the summer, and a few people who visited the studio, and why the Q&A with Brannoc was pulled and never put back up.

They never said they had interviews we would get. Just that they had a few interviews with a few different companies. Which we did get see the greece articles and the convention they went to.

The people who visit the site my or may not have been their yet, and even when they do Tasos has to approve the end writtings before it can be posted.
The Q&A with Brannoc? Sorry must have missed it was it old?

[Spk]

Maybe they simply don't want to hype the game to death and fail at delivering on this hype like so many games before. Maybe they just want the game to talk for itself and let its players do the advertising by word of mouth alone. Looks like it's working, from the 100k+ members now registered to this forum...

[Keiran]

40k here. registered 2.3 years ago. If that is "new" then ok.

I do not believe that number reflects join date. I could, however, be wrong.

26k here i don't remember when i register and i see myself as new i still find new thinks every day :D

[Stormsblade]

Aventurine has no PR firm/department like most large companies.

[Keiran]

They had me at 'hello'

ME TOO!!!!!!:D

[ikhoefnix]

I've found tons of information on the news board. About 7 years worth of information. Check it out :)

[Odjit]

word of the mouth works... or maybe everyone just put in google search skillbased game f**k levels i dont know but i sure hope we get a nice phat list of the skills soon

[dantemp]

Actually, I found out about the game thanks to a video in GameTrailers, and this is pretty big gamemedia... And for an 8 year project, I think there will be enough atention, when it's finaly out...
BTW 100k people is nothing. WoW has like 8m players, and I'm sure that DF can overcome it, if it really is what it should be.

[unknown22]

Actually, I found out about the game thanks to a video in GameTrailers, and this is pretty big gamemedia... And for an 8 year project, I think there will be enough atention, when it's finaly out...
BTW 100k people is nothing. WoW has like 8m players, and I'm sure that DF can overcome it, if it really is what it should be.

if you think that 100k is nothing and 8mil is a ton... keep in mind, that 8mil figure is including every single sub from release to present, regardless of whether those subs are still, well, subbing, or not. i was a wow sub, but not anymore, and i guarantee that they still count me in that 8mil figure. there are probably only like 100k current wow subs. so the fact that there will most likely be 100k (if not more, and who cares if less) players at the point of the df release, well, it seems pretty damn good imo.

[Realbigdeal22]

Honestly the most I have heard about this game is word of mouth, and what I have read here since joining up to see what's up with it. Aside from that there is not much being talked about in major gaming sites like IGN or Gamespot etc.. The largest rumors I have heard is that this is simply vaporware and an elaborate hoax?

If this game is truly coming out in 2008, why is it so quiet for lack of a better term? All major gaming sites should have at least some information from the dev's available and be talking about it in some fashion or another?

Any reason for the silence that anyone is aware of? I know hype is great for it, but I think to truly grab a good playerbase more needs to be said about it and more needs to be shared with the masses.

What do you guys think? :ohno:

I agree whit wat you said.Why all the vids dint get added to other site? all i saw, is one old video from IGN.Gametrailer dont know wat is darkfall online.

Darkfall online need to be heard on each site.

[Realbigdeal22]

Because its an indie game and they have a marketing budget of 0 and like 1 "pr" guy.

And word of mouth seems to be doing just fine with spreading the word.

You are wrong. How do you think Agry video game nerd manage to add he's video to game trailer? Darkfall could add them too you know?

[Realbigdeal22]

It's like that episode of South Park where Cartman buys an amusement park. The less you let people see, the more they want, right? Right?!

Yeah... well... I guess the truth of the matter is that Aventurine is a small company and they don't give a flying fuck about your demands or their PR.

Bad exemple. I saw this episode too. Everyone already knew about the park because it was already popular. Then cartman just buy it and close it in front of the face of everyone.

[Realbigdeal22]

The guy wo started the thread is right because i have to tell you how i found out about this game.

I was bore.I checked youtube and whanted to seach to a free game.I wrighted Free mmorpg multiplayer games. And then, i clicked on recent video.I found darkfall online.It was a video to show us all the feature we would get.

It make me remember oblivon.When i saw (no level,10 000 player.)I whanted to play this game so much,i decide to check the site and thats it. If i dint whant to check youtube to search for a free game that day,i would never knew about darkfal online.

[marceson]

if you think that 100k is nothing and 8mil is a ton... keep in mind, that 8mil figure is including every single sub from release to present, regardless of whether those subs are still, well, subbing, or not. i was a wow sub, but not anymore, and i guarantee that they still count me in that 8mil figure. there are probably only like 100k current wow subs. so the fact that there will most likely be 100k (if not more, and who cares if less) players at the point of the df release, well, it seems pretty damn good imo.

Not the case, WoW subscription figures do not include expired subs. They have approx 10 million "active" subs... over half of those in Asia.
http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080122.html?rhtml=y

But it makes you wonder how many of those accounts are gold farmers playing for real life income.

[freeze_SD]

The guy wo started the thread is right because i have to tell you how i found out about this game.

I was bore.I checked youtube and whanted to seach to a free game.I righted Free mmorpg multiplayer games. And then, i clicked on recent video.I found darkfall online.It was a video to show us all the feature we would get.

It make me remember oblivon.When i saw (no level,10 000 player.)I whanted to play this game so much,i decide to check the site and thats it. If i dint whant to check youtube to search for a free game that day,i would never knew about darkfal online.

so we all have to blame youtube now?

[Realbigdeal22]

if you think that 100k is nothing and 8mil is a ton... keep in mind, that 8mil figure is including every single sub from release to present, regardless of whether those subs are still, well, subbing, or not. i was a wow sub, but not anymore, and i guarantee that they still count me in that 8mil figure. there are probably only like 100k current wow subs. so the fact that there will most likely be 100k (if not more, and who cares if less) players at the point of the df release, well, it seems pretty damn good imo.

Dont forget that they dont count Each acc.They count only active acc.

[unknown22]

Not the case, WoW subscription figures do not include expired subs. They have approx 10 million "active" subs... over half of those in Asia.
http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080122.html?rhtml=y

But it makes you wonder how many of those accounts are gold farmers playing for real life income.

:O damn... really? XD
last time i played wow it seemed severely dead to me, so i found it hard to believe that their claim of millions of subs was actually true.

[Signus]

They never said they had interviews we would get. Just that they had a few interviews with a few different companies. Which we did get see the greece articles and the convention they went to.

The people who visit the site my or may not have been their yet, and even when they do Tasos has to approve the end writtings before it can be posted.
The Q&A with Brannoc? Sorry must have missed it was it old?

"Since it's summer and a lot of people are on vacation in Greece, we've been getting a lot of requests to visit the studio. We've already had a few people come over and we had to say no to a couple of others due to the bad timing of their visit. The people who have been here may or may not write about their visit, we didn't make them sign NDAs and we showed them the game."

Where are these other people?

"We enjoy these visits, but unfortunately we can't spare the time unless it's media so we won't allow more visits for at least a couple of months. We've also had some media over here and there should be a couple of articles in the local press."

We've had one article from the press, and it was found by a moderator and released by Audio Visual. We've had no other articles or press.

The interview with Brannoc was posted on these forums from IRC and then removed and never brought up again, within the week this happened.

[dantemp]

I agree whit wat you said.Why all the vids dint get added to other site? all i saw, is one old video from IGN.Gametrailer dont know wat is darkfall online.

Darkfall online need to be heard on each site.

WTF? My post is right before yours and I'm telling that I learned about this game from GameTrailers... and you are writting this? o.O

[Dronagok]

well im not reading all the pages so this has been said then deal with it. Apparently you didnt check ign because they have updates that date to 2007 and if you knew anything about mmos you would go to warcry.com which has a shit ton of info on it.

[Thorned]

This error of the slave to advertising.

DF is positioned as game for hardcorers. Hardcorers do not read pink snivels on IGN and other pop servers. Hardcorers tell each other Hardcorers behind a box beer about really abrupt games, such as DF. Hardcorers do not trust advertising, Hardcorers trust only to another Hardcorers.

Death to a advertising popsa!!!

Explain to me plz how this game is "hardcore." I watched all the trailers and read pages of Q&A....it blatently said you can store gear, make gear, and die and have your gear looted....kk...so I make several sets of gear...I go out and see how long i live...I die...I get a new set from 'bank' and head back out...hardcore is no trade, buy only, no negative effects (reputation) for killing anyone, full loot, and no bank....what exactly is hardcore about it the way it stands? Sorry but full loot does NOT translate to "hardcore".

[Prol]

Sorry but full loot does NOT translate to "hardcore".

:lmao:

Hardcore impossible without full loot.

[Prol]

Hardcore game is
- no classes, no levels, no predefined class character stamp;
- full loot;
- no safe zones;
- any character can execute any action in game without fucking class restrictions;
- any player can build the character as want...

More?

[Rycon]

Only hardcore people will survive here.Forumfall is a very harsh place.Much more then darkfall will be.

But anyways it would be good if darkfall had some advertising.It seems that darkfall is being advertised by its own fans.The forum member count has increase alot in the last month.

A 100k players will be more then enough to hype the game.Its like when you have 4 girls shouting in a concert then all the girls will do the same shit.When people play the game they will know if its good or bad.Friends will tell friends and friends will tell other friends of friendly friends.

It's just like wow populated in the early days.

[Thanos]

Explain to me plz how this game is "hardcore." I watched all the trailers and read pages of Q&A....it blatently said you can store gear, make gear, and die and have your gear looted....kk...so I make several sets of gear...I go out and see how long i live...I die...I get a new set from 'bank' and head back out...hardcore is no trade, buy only, no negative effects (reputation) for killing anyone, full loot, and no bank....what exactly is hardcore about it the way it stands? Sorry but full loot does NOT translate to "hardcore".


I guess they could make it you die once and your char gets deleted! Diablo hardcore style. Then again Diablo is not an MMO. And darkfall will be hardcore, especailly when compared to other games on the market.

I hope i see this guy in game one day, He puts on shiny new armor, runs out, i kill him. He goes to the bank, gets more armor, runs out, i kill him. He goes back the bank, runs outside, guess what happens... i kill him. He finally runs out of his 4 sets of armor, cant afford to buy or craft anymore items. So i let him run out naked kill a few mobs earn some money, then I KILL HIM and take it all. He Then decides to quit darkfall after 30mins of playing because it was too hardcore for him.

Good Times. Im gonna love this game

[Prol]

Friends will tell friends and friends will tell other friends of friendly friends.

Yeap.
Friends recommendation - the best advertising.

[Realbigdeal22]

WTF? My post is right before yours and I'm telling that I learned about this game from GameTrailers... and you are writting this? o.O
When i wrighted darkfal online on gametrailer search, LOTRO is the 1st game i saw and other mmorpg. I never saw darkfall online. I even tryed yesterday.

[StealYourFace]

It used to be learning about the game was a big part of the game and ii think that's the way these devs kinda feel.i too wish i could get some more info but i also remember that lost yet excited feelin id get learning something new about the game while in the game.

[Jaimes]

Good games speak for themselves. Look at EVE Online... it started very small and it's been growing constantly. Few other MMOs can boast constant growth of their playerbase

Overhyping games leads to disappointment. Underhyping is much better. Although, I fear that DFO is underhyped to its fanbase because we've waited so fucking long, we've idolized it.

[Noldar]

Nice double post.

I think the long development time coupled with the previous beta expectations that didn't work out have meant that the mainstream gaming sites you mention won't be following very closely till beta actually starts.

If you're patient, you'll see a lot happen in the next couple months. I've been here for 29 months, and there are people here who can claim 3 times that. :ohno::ohno:

He hits the nail on the head. I've been here since 2001 or 2002 ... Remember when the release date was roughly 2003 with an extended, super long Alpha/Beta test?

There's not a lot of press because in all actuality, there's not much of the game shown. We've seen little tidbits but nothing much at all. I'd be content if they showed a demo with current UI and a combat log with people doing just same basic quests. A little, "Here's your average player playing our game."

I do love the in game trailor, but give me a non edited, basic video.

/fake edit I'm user 925, that's neat.

[iskra]

They had me at 'hello'

Darkfall completes me

[sorros]

Good games speak for themselves. Look at EVE Online... it started very small and it's been growing constantly. Few other MMOs can boast constant growth of their playerbase

Overhyping games leads to disappointment. Underhyping is much better. Although, I fear that DFO is underhyped to its fanbase because we've waited so fucking long, we've idolized it.

i actually have a pure golden idol of Tasos at a computer at home, surrounded by candles and incense. The Book of Paralda rests against it.

[nathanpinard]

I don't' see why people are saying it's not enough info. They've released quite a bit of screens and videos.

The only way to really "prove" this game has everything it lists is to make a 2 hour video, if even that.

I would like a quick 5min video of just them playing via UI, with no free cams or editing out footage. Just gameplay.

[DarkCrusader]

I don't' see why people are saying it's not enough info. They've released quite a bit of screens and videos.

The only way to really "prove" this game has everything it lists is to make a 2 hour video, if even that.

I would like a quick 5min video of just them playing via UI, with no free cams or editing out footage. Just gameplay.

I think after people start playing the beta you will get to see alot of 5min vidoes and the word about the game will really spead.:bang:

[Muse]

Member number means jack shit. Number of posts isn't much more important.



I'm better than 90% of all people on these forums regardless, but I rarely mention it.

[ermorden]

It's like that episode of South Park where Cartman buys an amusement park. The less you let people see, the more they want, right? Right?!

Yeah... well... I guess the truth of the matter is that Aventurine is a small company and they don't give a flying fuck about your demands or their PR.

well what about a perched fuck? Or perhaps a kneeling fuck? What about the dreaded rolling fuck? A gaunt fuck? Mayhaps a rotund fuck?

[dantemp]

When i wrighted darkfal online on gametrailer search, LOTRO is the 1st game i saw and other mmorpg. I never saw darkfall online. I even tryed yesterday.

http://www.gametrailers.com/search.php?str_type=games&s=darkfall
9,163 Views

I bet at least 1/4 of the people who saw this exact trailer from this exact site are newcommers to this forum.

[Surly]

well what about a perched fuck? Or perhaps a kneeling fuck? What about the dreaded rolling fuck? A gaunt fuck? Mayhaps a rotund fuck?
I'd go with rotund fuck, but I think I prefer the terminology "fat fuck". Everyone's willing to part with a fat fuck, they're mostly dead weight anyway.

[Talorifeyden]

Nice double post.

I think the long development time coupled with the previous beta expectations that didn't work out have meant that the mainstream gaming sites you mention won't be following very closely till beta actually starts.

If you're patient, you'll see a lot happen in the next couple months. I've been here for 29 months, and there are people here who can claim 3 times that. :ohno::ohno:
just thinking of realms of torment.. waited and waited.. after a while it got renamed to Mourning - still unreleased.. and it died in alpha phase.
i'm kinda sick of waiting for games that wont come out. best is to know nothing about a game, just join a weired open beta.
all hyped games this year failed.. AoC, warhammer.. wonder, when a good new rpg will be released.
if i would be a dev, i wont start a public domain until beta starts, especially games of noname companies should do that. preannouncing games before they are coded is for experienced big players like Blizard or EA.

[Noldar]

just thinking of realms of torment.. waited and waited.. after a while it got renamed to Mourning - still unreleased.. and it died in alpha phase.
i'm kinda sick of waiting for games that wont come out. best is to know nothing about a game, just join a weired open beta.
all hyped games this year failed.. AoC, warhammer.. wonder, when a good new rpg will be released.
if i would be a dev, i wont start a public domain until beta starts, especially games of noname companies should do that. preannouncing games before they are coded is for experienced big players like Blizard or EA.

I started following DF shortly before I started watching RoT/Mourning. I still remember watching the forums blow up with the paid beta and game going live. The mass bannings and forum wipes were amusing.

[Lictor]

Who are you to post before me?
You're only 54899!!

this whole join # BS is really idiotic. I wonder, who started it. Care to tell me, who it was?

Maybe they simply don't want to hype the game to death and fail at delivering on this hype like so many games before. Maybe they just want the game to talk for itself and let its players do the advertising by word of mouth alone. Looks like it's working, from the 100k+ members now registered to this forum...

it's 2 days from your post and it's 110k.

[nathanpinard]

if i would be a dev, i wont start a public domain until beta starts, especially games of noname companies should do that. preannouncing games before they are coded is for experienced big players like Blizard or EA.

Your joking right?

Even if a mainstream game waiting to announce something at beta, they would have a crap fan base. It's about anticipation, word of mouth, and yes...hype.

[Noldar]

this whole join # BS is really idiotic. I wonder, who started it. Care to tell me, who it was?



it's 2 days from your post and it's 110k.

Whatever 42493 and your crazy comma use!

[KonohaFlash]

Whatever 42493 and your crazy comma use!

i love how you're member 900+ and have a grand total of 7 posts at the time of this writing all dated after the video/beta announcement :lmao:

[Hackapell]

Thread is derailing. Information is released when it is.