Does Magic use up Items or Mana?

[Taiyama]

I've seen and read a couple of things on magic and I'm getting contradicting messages. Some say there is mana, others say there are reagents needed. Even in the Tales of a Traveler or whatever story that talked about many areas, references are made to both mana and reagents. Does anyone know which it is, or if they both somehow are used at the same time, and how?

[Selzi]

Some spells use only mana, these are basic spells.

The majority of spells use mana and reagents.

Also, you must have a staff or wand equipped to cast spells.

[Taiyama]

I see, thank you.

[Strychnine]

The reagents is where the tradeoff occurs for the mages, if you didn't need to have reagents then you could loose a bunch less when you died vs another toon. The question then becomes do you want to lug all those reagents around or just say screw it i'll play a ranger/melee?

[Unahim]

The reagents is where the tradeoff occurs for the mages, if you didn't need to have reagents then you could loose a bunch less when you died vs another toon. The question then becomes do you want to lug all those reagents around or just say screw it i'll play a ranger/melee?

In the case of rangers, you need to buy arrows(and slightly more expensive amrour) and in the case of melee you need a lot more expensive armour and weapons, so the "trade off" is all just in your head

[Dorundain]

I sincerely hope that reagents are necessary for any useful PvP spells.

Reagents add an extra layer of tactical thinking both for the mage and for a non-mage opponent. I'm sure I'm not the only one who ever had a thief steal my garlic in UO. :p

[Vogular]

Will the reagents be able to farm by yourself in the outworld?
Or is this a question without a sure answer

[Dorundain]

Will the reagents be able to farm by yourself in the outworld?
Or is this a question without a sure answer

So far as I know, we have no official answer to this one.

Allowing players to produce the reagents themselves - especially if certain reagents only grow in certain regions - would be a fantastic way to encourage trade and competition, but forcing players to buy the reagents from NPC's would give the devs an easy, reliable tool for economic manipulation. All they'd have to do is raise the prices to contract the money supply, and lower the prices to expand it.

[Blixa]

In the case of rangers, you need to buy arrows(and slightly more expensive amrour) and in the case of melee you need a lot more expensive armour and weapons, so the "trade off" is all just in your head

And you forgot that a mage probably doesn't die that often. Meeles are in the first row and rangers are pretty screwed once someone gets in their meele range.
But mages are always in the background and even if someone get's to them, they can blast them away (or maybe CC them).

[Poacher]

You forget Blixa that magic is a large part of the game, even most melee classes will have some kind of magic I'd reckon, perhaps a snare spell, or a counter-spell attack? A spell to dampen the opponents magic effectiveness or even prevent casting? Who knows. It won't be as simple as pure melee vs pure magic though, I'm sure the vast majority will be a hybrid, even if it is only touching upon one aspect to help them along a bit.

[Abbadon]

you all keep talkin about everything like darkfall has classes....


you are not damned to ranged, or magic or melee...


you can learn all of it on your 1 toon.




ranger is at no special disadvantage when you come into melee with them, unless they are stupid enough to not have trained any melee... A mage might run out of reagents, but that does not mean he wont pull out his sword and stomp you with his melee skill.