Legal drug?!

[Hemlawk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwH1AvKtdcw

Im surprised this is still legal in the US an Im glad it is. I dont do drugs or ever have, but I believe its peoples right to do what they want.

I just herd about this stuff Salvia from a friend. Apparently you can buy it at any cigar/tobacco shop. I just started smoking a pipe and I havent seen it there before. Im not going to try this stuff, but it looks freaky!

[Temet nosce]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwH1AvKtdcw

Im surprised this is still legal in the US an Im glad it is. I dont do drugs or ever have, but I believe its peoples right to do what they want.

I just herd about this stuff Salvia from a friend. Apparently you can buy it at any cigar/tobacco shop. I just started smoking a pipe and I havent seen it there before. Im not going to try this stuff, but it looks freaky!

I didn't bother watching the video since I've done Salvia Divinorum repeatedly. I always find it amusing that it's entirely legal here. It's actually quite arguably one of the strongest hallucinogens on earth due to its...unique effect. Specifically that it can alter your sense of gravity to the point your muscles will respond to it. It's an interesting drug.

However I'd recommend trying either a real smoke shop (not just a shop that sells tobacco. Which all to often don't even have a good cigar selection much less anything else) or a health food store (this is where I usually find it).

[RootBeerFloat]

I didn't watch it.

Salvia is crazy. And it is legal. I find it moronic that it is legal, while marijuanna is not. I've done it few times before and the effects can be very, very powerful.

My buddy took it and after a hit he started screaming and cowering on the couch and thought god was looking down at him from the heavens damning him to hell. He then tried to run outside, me and two friends had to hold him down.


It only lasts round ten minutes though.

[Vehementi]

Yeah, the drug laws everywhere are hilarious. In canada you can buy mescalin (sp) over the counter in its plant form (e.g. peruvian torch).

[Aragoni]

I believe it's legal in Sweden too. Gonna try it out some day.

[-Havoc-]

I thought about creating a YouTube video of myself inducing a bad trip; sitting in the dark, techno music blasting out of speakers on all sides of the room, strobe light, and ofcourse, a disco ball.

[Lotharr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVllL4tNZsI

[Knocky]

Black man can't hold his weed.

[Capricious]

I hate youtube.

[shnedit]

Fuck, use real drugs like a man.

[Niles]

To bad this is not legal in Sweden.

[-Havoc-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVllL4tNZsI

I haven't laughed so hard online in my life, thank you for that, the day is now complete.

Driving on salvia. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp2V6NXCkE0)

[Achromic]

Most people who do salvia say they hate it and don't like it. Because they do WAY too much I recall reading lots of first timers hating it and they go out and say I did 20x-30x-40x-60x-80x-100x the first time. Your not supposed to do THAT high 5x-7x-10x for a start(slowly you bring up the amounts). Those high amounts are like giving a first timer a giant vodka bottle and telling a first timer drinker to drink it all. Salvia although I've only done it once because my friend was leaving to another state was pretty good he had a low X, 6x. Will I do it again of course because I didn't fully learn from it with that once.

A lot of people will disagree saying it's horrible and how terrible it is. But remember it's all in "MODERATION". Plus a lot of people seem to do it improperly I repeat it's not a party drug and I'm not a party person so it wasn't bad for me. Is it powerful yes, is it dangerous no, but is it in the hands of a person who don't research it yes. I think people so do their research before they do anything.

[Lotharr]

Driving on salvia. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp2V6NXCkE0)

That's a great one, too! I always have a good laugh when he gets scared of the cat.

[ClownFoot]

Every drug is legal as long as you don't get caught.

[Selzifan]

You'd be surprised how many psychactives are legal and how easy it is to get even the slightly illegal ones legally.
In the US many of the plant psychoactives can't even be prohibited completely because of their religious uses.
Complain about insomnia, get abusable sleep aids.
Complain about concentration problems, get amphetamines.
Complain about anxiety, get benzodiazepines.
Complain about back pain, get opioids or in some states cases, marijuana.
OTC cough syrups contain a psychactive drug.
OTC jet lag/hay fever drugs contain a psychactive.
Nutmeg is psychoactive.
San Pedro(cactus that contains mescaline) is legal.
Plants that contain DMT are legal.
Coca tea(contains cocaine) is legal
Opium poppies are legal.
Khat is psychoactive and legal.
Kava is psychactive and legal.
Kratom is psychactive and legal.
Belladonna is psychoactive and legal.
Not to mention the "research chemicals" such as 2C family, though by now many of them are probably illegal but new keep being made.
etc. etc. etc.

[willithesm]

Looks nice.

[shnedit]

Not to mention the "research chemicals" such as 2C family, though by now many of them are probably illegal but new keep being made.
etc. etc. etc.

Yeh :( 2C-B makes me smile.

[-Havoc-]

Most people who do salvia say they hate it and don't like it. Because they do WAY too much I recall reading lots of first timers hating it and they go out and say I did 20x-30x-40x-60x-80x-100x the first time. Your not supposed to do THAT high 5x-7x-10x for a start(slowly you bring up the amounts). Those high amounts are like giving a first timer a giant vodka bottle and telling a first timer drinker to drink it all. Salvia although I've only done it once because my friend was leaving to another state was pretty good he had a low X, 6x. Will I do it again of course because I didn't fully learn from it with that once.

A lot of people will disagree saying it's horrible and how terrible it is. But remember it's all in "MODERATION". Plus a lot of people seem to do it improperly I repeat it's not a party drug and I'm not a party person so it wasn't bad for me. Is it powerful yes, is it dangerous no, but is it in the hands of a person who don't research it yes. I think people so do their research before they do anything.

FUCK all that moderation crap, go around tricking people into smoking it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHqKS8ap9Ss&feature=related), lol.

[Tdog]

salvia is okay but it does not last long enough for the price (at least here in Michigan it cost alot)

[Capricious]

A lot of people will disagree saying it's horrible and how terrible it is. But remember it's all in "MODERATION". Plus a lot of people seem to do it improperly I repeat it's not a party drug and I'm not a party person so it wasn't bad for me. Is it powerful yes, is it dangerous no, but is it in the hands of a person who don't research it yes. I think people so do their research before they do anything.

Agreed.

Hence why I loathe these retarded youtube videos.

[Achromic]

FUCK all that moderation crap, go around tricking people into smoking it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHqKS8ap9Ss&feature=related), lol.

That's the kind of shit that gives things a bad rep.

[-Havoc-]

That's the kind of shit that gives things a bad rep.

Improvise; parties, concerts, brownies, got some fool outside of Target asking for smokes?? The possibilities are endless for duping bitches into it. Lol, pure pwnz.

[palo god]

FUCK all that moderation crap, go around tricking people into smoking it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHqKS8ap9Ss&feature=related), lol.

Doing something like that should be a choice, you should get your ass beat for even suggesting that.

[-Havoc-]

Doing something like that should be a choice, you should get your ass beat for even suggesting that.

You gonna spank me? Lol, phag....

[palo god]

You gonna spank me? Lol, phag....


I'm sorry you don't have friends, wait no I'm not.

[-Havoc-]

I'm sorry you don't have friends, wait no I'm not.

Just because I won't put my ass in a vulnerable spanking situation by being your friend, doesn't mean that you have to get all nasty. I'm sure there are plenty of people at the *** Den that'll welcome you.

You right now. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/unholy414/diaper2.jpg)

***, LOL!!!

[palo god]

Just because I won't put my ass in a vulnerable spanking situation by being your friend, doesn't mean that you have to get all nasty. I'm sure there are plenty of people at the *** Den that'll welcome you.

***, LOL!!!

I wouldn't want to be friends with an ass hat such as yourself, friends don't trick their buddy's into doing drugs that make them hallucinate.

[-Havoc-]

I wouldn't want to be friends with an ass hat such as yourself, friends don't trick their buddy's into doing drugs that make them hallucinate.

Yeah, and friends don't lure their buddies into *** dens for rape-spankings. I don't know how you sleep at night....oh, wait, nevermind, I do (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/sportsrx/bucks_spank_msu.jpg).

[palo god]

Yeah, and friends don't lure their buddies into *** dens for rape-spankings. I don't know how you sleep at night....oh, wait, nevermind, I do (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/sportsrx/bucks_spank_msu.jpg).

Having the last word doesn't make you look any less like an asshole, I’ve made my point, I hope one of your "friends" tricks you into doing a nasty drug by injecting you with it while you sleep, that would be awesome and worth the Karma based lols.

[shnedit]

Having the last word doesn't make you look any less like an asshole, I’ve made my point, I hope one of your "friends" tricks you into doing a nasty drug by injecting you with it while you sleep, that would be awesome and worth the Karma based lols.

We put 2 e pills in my mates drink. It was most lol. Hed done them before though, and it was funny so that made it ok.

[-Havoc-]

Having the last word doesn't make you look any less like an asshole, I’ve made my point, I hope one of your "friends" tricks you into doing a nasty drug by injecting you with it while you sleep, that would be awesome and worth the Karma based lols.

Lol, ya, you made a point alright, a point that you're a raging spankfag.

[Capricious]

Havoc, congrats on turning 16 years old!!!

[-Havoc-]

Havoc, congrats on turning 16 years old!!!

I'm a real boy!!!!

Now spank me, I'm naughty.

[Marrik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwH1AvKtdcw

Im surprised this is still legal in the US an Im glad it is. I dont do drugs or ever have, but I believe its peoples right to do what they want.

I just herd about this stuff Salvia from a friend. Apparently you can buy it at any cigar/tobacco shop. I just started smoking a pipe and I havent seen it there before. Im not going to try this stuff, but it looks freaky!

its illegal now.


i smoked it back when it was legal once, its not that great after the first time. the trip is mega fast, and you are really sweaty and uncomfortable for hours after, and your motor skills are fucked up.

[Barbarossa]

They sell it at 'head' shops. Most reputable tobacco/cigar shops wouldn't touch this stuff with a ten foot pole.

I'm not real familiar with salvia other than trying it once and it reminded me of the first time I got gassed at the dentist years ago.

Just from that experience alone, I wouldn't recommend doing this stuff while doing anything other than sitting down.

In fact, I wouldn't even recommend doing it to be perfectly honest.

[Achromic]

its illegal now.


i smoked it back when it was legal once, its not that great after the first time. the trip is mega fast, and you are really sweaty and uncomfortable for hours after, and your motor skills are fucked up.

Some states but not federally, although it's getting there. I think it's silly they are planning to outright ban it a lot of the bans are just "Oh won't you think about the children" "Oh the poor children we have to "help" them" and other Helen Lovejoy hysteria. I recall in Florida a group wanted to ban it and the head of one of the city boards said something like "While I'm aware your trying to press this issue but I don't see any scientific evidence showing proof that it is bad" he basically shot them down. Frankly I'm surprised that it IS heading this way.

[Tyler]

i wish salvia was more like shrooms and less like falling down the stairs.

[jonyak]

Improvise; parties, concerts, brownies, got some fool outside of Target asking for smokes?? The possibilities are endless for duping bitches into it. Lol, pure pwnz.

you ever did something like that to me.. I would hunt you down after I came down and beat the living shit out of you.

[Titus Ultor]

It'll be an interesting matter to see pushed. The news media has been trying to scare soccer moms about salvia here for a while, but the hippie social libertarian side of California has been pretty staunchly resisting it.

[-Havoc-]

you ever did something like that to me.. I would hunt you down after I came down and beat the living shit out of you.

If you want shit that bad, then beat it out of yourself.

Fuck I rock.

[Dazarthas]

It's banned in Illinois... only kind of drug I've used is alcohol, up in Canada. Rum is win!

[Satan]

the strongest legal drug in the US is benadryl
way crazier than salvia




dont try and flame me either this is a fact

[tallefred]

Havoc, you can get infractions for making gay jokes. And you just made a bunch of them. Heads up.

EDIT: Speaking of Benadryl, I could use some right now. Having an alergic reaction to something I ate and I don't have any meds. It's not much fun.

[Satan]

Havoc, you can get infractions for making gay jokes. And you just made a bunch of them. Heads up.

EDIT: Speaking of Benadryl, I could use some right now. Having an alergic reaction to something I ate and I don't have any meds. It's not much fun.

get about 700mg of it, maybe combine it with some cough syrup too

[Lictor]

My buddy took it and after a hit he started screaming and cowering on the couch and thought god was looking down at him from the heavens damning him to hell. He then tried to run outside, me and two friends had to hold him down.

This sort of drugs (marihuana, salvia, mescaline etc.) tend to amplify what is already within you, within your mind. If it is fear, then it ends like with your buddy, but if you're focused it's like sort of a "Demo to the full potential of human being". I've been experimenting with marihuana once, and it has sharpened my senses (especially hearing) and gave me limited power over my bodily functions - yes, I still could stop piss and shit from coming out and additionally I could fasten and slow down my heartbeat, I couldn't (lucky me ;)) stop it, though. This are the moments, when all those yoga, tantra, chi-kung and controlling your own heart stuff doesn't sound like BS at all.

[RootBeerFloat]

This sort of drugs (marihuana, salvia, mescaline etc.) tend to amplify what is already within you, within your mind. If it is fear, then it ends like with your buddy, but if you're focused it's like sort of a "Demo to the full potential of human being". I've been experimenting with marihuana once, and it has sharpened my senses (especially hearing) and gave me limited power over my bodily functions - yes, I still could stop piss and shit from coming out and additionally I could fasten and slow down my heartbeat, I couldn't (lucky me ;)) stop it, though. This are the moments, when all those yoga, tantra, chi-kung and controlling your own heart stuff doesn't sound like BS at all.

Yeah it all depends what kind of mindset you go into it with, and how much you've done. I would not recommend you get a paranoid skitzy person on salvia ever.

I smoke weed regularly, and it will always have round the same effects. My senses become sharper(some of em), I become relaxed, eat a shitton, and god I love to play games high, basically everything I do becomes better and more enjoyable, but it does not impede my motor skills or most anything, most people cannot tell that I am high, only my closest friends.

I find it appalling that Salvia which can have some horrible trips for the inexperienced person, remains legal, while marijuana does not.

[Lorth]

its dumb shit videos like the ones posted here that will cause this plant to become illegal. Good job, now a plant intended for meditative purposes will be taken away

[Nexus]

All things are poison and nothing is without poison, only the dose permits something not to be poisonous.

I only generally drink, and thats it. I have never smoked weed or smoked.

I would like to try this at least once though, it looks fun :P

[PrimalSign]

Some states but not federally, although it's getting there. I think it's silly they are planning to outright ban it a lot of the bans are just "Oh won't you think about the children" "Oh the poor children we have to "help" them" and other Helen Lovejoy hysteria. I recall in Florida a group wanted to ban it and the head of one of the city boards said something like "While I'm aware your trying to press this issue but I don't see any scientific evidence showing proof that it is bad" he basically shot them down. Frankly I'm surprised that it IS heading this way.

In Moralist America, Democracy screw YOU!

It's only a matter of time before the federal government decides to jump on the sensationalist band-wagon and waste more taxpayer money on worthless prohibitions.

[Parabola]

Jesus, I have been a big proponent of decriminalizing hallucinogens for a long time and have done Salvia close to 30 times over 5 years, but after reading most of the replies to this thread and the dumbfucks that post youtube videos of it I don't blame the government for outlawing any of this stuff.

These plants are intended for evolved mature human beings. They are not meant for the retard peasant sheep lemmings that have absolutely no fucking clue as to what they are doing when ingesting psychoactive chemicals. Sigh.

[Parabola]

Yeah it all depends what kind of mindset you go into it with, and how much you've done. I would not recommend you get a paranoid skitzy person on salvia ever.

I smoke weed regularly, and it will always have round the same effects. My senses become sharper(some of em), I become relaxed, eat a shitton, and god I love to play games high, basically everything I do becomes better and more enjoyable, but it does not impede my motor skills or most anything, most people cannot tell that I am high, only my closest friends.

I find it appalling that Salvia which can have some horrible trips for the inexperienced person, remains legal, while marijuana does not.

Bad trips happen when your ego gets out of line. Psychoactive chemicals will make you confront any and everything in your life and kick your ass back down to earth if you aren't prepared for them.

[terafis]

Some states but not federally, although it's getting there. I think it's silly they are planning to outright ban it a lot of the bans are just "Oh won't you think about the children" "Oh the poor children we have to "help" them" and other Helen Lovejoy hysteria. I recall in Florida a group wanted to ban it and the head of one of the city boards said something like "While I'm aware your trying to press this issue but I don't see any scientific evidence showing proof that it is bad" he basically shot them down. Frankly I'm surprised that it IS heading this way.


Yeah it's a fully illegal substance in australia - yet another unnecessary law to persecute innocent people (http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/news/salvia_australia.htm)

Makes you wonder what benefit there is in making drugs like salvia and marijuana illegal - all it does is put regular law abiding citizens in direct conflict with an already over-worked police force, all in the name of un-supported claims that these drugs are dangerous.

Flying, driving, eating, cooking, having sex, running, walking, working are all dangerous, but it's the individuals right whether they do any of these activities - as it should be regarding harmless recreational drugs.

The funny thing is, the people currently in power and making and upholding these laws were young people during the hippie era, and now they're just as straight-laced and anal as their own parents were.

[-Havoc-]

Improvise; parties, concerts, brownies, got some fool outside of Target asking for smokes?? The possibilities are endless for duping bitches into it. Lol, pure pwnz.

As a followup, someone asked me for a smoke today. Missed my chance. :(

[Weeking]

Khat is illegal here.
I'm pretty sure the sage that works is illegal also. And you're not supposed to smoke it, but to dissolve it in alcohol and put it in your mouth and spit; that way it is harder to overdose.

[Gloomrender]

Every drug is legal as long as you don't get caught.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/The_More_You_Know.jpg

[Gloomrender]

This is fascinating stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gQ-t5r0UVs&feature=related

[zantar]

Salvia is still legal in Cali... definately an interesting experience, but not necessarily fun. benadryl... Ive never taken the massive amounts of benadryl to cause delusions, but five of those pills once knocked me out on an airplane :)