What the hell is the LHC about?

[WhySoSerious]

Alright i know that this machine will be turned on tommorow and if its gonna make a black hole and kill me, i want to know at least what was this thing designed to study.

debrief me on what this machine is made to do

[Gibsnag]

The likelyhood that anyone on here actually understands the LHC is very small.

Anyone with a Physics degree or higher?

Otherwise, Wiki is your friend.

[LordTenacious]

Go to google.com and type in LHC, you lazy, lazy man.

[doma]

explained in this rap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM

[Gibsnag]

Ah, shit. I forgot about the rap. Fucking genius.

[Morthor]

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedthewor ldyet.com/

this is the only site you need.

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[Spikey]

It's pretty much like a big drag race for atoms.

[Vmax]

They gonna accelerate 2 very small rocks and let them crash into eachother.

[Mneh]

is satans lol!!1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0&feature=related

[Lethn]

They had a risk assessment test placed on the thing and the likelihood of a black hole being formed is even lower than the thing creating an inter-dimensional portal which would allow people to glimse through to another part of the universe.

Not to mention experiments like this have been going on constantly with smaller devices, I think it's just religions shit stirring personally.

[Carl Ragadamn]

The likelyhood that anyone on here actually understands the LHC is very small.

Anyone with a Physics degree or higher?

Otherwise, Wiki is your friend.
Oh ye of little faith in forumfall.
They gonna accelerate 2 very small rocks and let them crash into eachother.

See vmax got it right...



Also to the OP, basically they are accelerating 2 protons to .9 lightspeed in opposite directions. When they collide them, they will collect the data, which should provide some clues to the creation of the universe. They are specifically hoping to find the elusive Higgs particle. Though Hawking is betting against them finding it. The chance for black hole creation is low and even if it did create one, it would be small and collapse in on its self in milliseconds.

[Shads]

The same shit that happens in the LHC also happens in the upper atmosphere when high-energy cosmic rays hit gas atoms, afaik we haven't been swallowed by a black hole yet. Go back to bed kids.

[amade]

Actually, what will happen is we will all be teleported to a barren alien planet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_World_(video_game)).

[paade]

The same shit that happens in the LHC also happens in the upper atmosphere when high-energy cosmic rays hit gas atoms, afaik we haven't been swallowed by a black hole yet. Go back to bed kids.

this, and those cosmic particles have about million times more energy than what youll find in LHC. Yet no black holes sucking our airplanes.

[Carl Ragadamn]

this, and those cosmic particles have about million times more energy than what youll find in LHC. Yet no black holes sucking our airplanes.

I think the hysteria is less about people believing that a blackhole will swallow the planet, and more about wanting the end of the Earth to be the French's fault.

[Gibsnag]

Oh ye of little faith in forumfall.

I call it like it is, Particle Physicists aren't exactly common. Nor is this forum the most intellectual.

[Forgin]

Afaik they are only firing particles in 1 direction tomorrow, so nothing to worry about.
I'm actually quite exited about the whole LHC thing because if they actually find the higgs bosson that's a pretty big deal... bigger than the possible end of the world.


btw does anyone know at what time CET they fire it up? if the world actually ends I wanna go with style

[Lacker]

Afaik they are only firing particles in 1 direction tomorrow, so nothing to worry about.
I'm actually quite exited about the whole LHC thing because if they actually find the higgs bosson that's a pretty big deal... bigger than the possible end of the world.


btw does anyone know at what time CET they fire it up? if the world actually ends I wanna go with style


I'm no physicist but even I can grasp the importance of the situation. The exact point where mass becomes energy, hidden dimensions, and the general understanding of physics period. Thats some awesome stuff, and could be the foundation to whole new branches of technology.

But alot of people don't care because it doesn't deep fry or sing on American Idol.

[Wickfield]

I think the hysteria is less about people believing that a blackhole will swallow the planet, and more about wanting the end of the Earth to be the French's fault.

What better time for the end of the world to be the French's fault than tomorrow?

[Dazarthas]

Although a few individuals have questioned the safety of the planned experiments in the media and through the courts, the consensus in the scientific community is that there is no basis for any conceivable threat from the LHC particle collisions.

Heh. Calm down, everyone.

[Mushushu]

Actually, what will happen is we will all be teleported to a barren alien planet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_World_(video_game)).

lol i played that game.. it sucked always dying in 1 hit.

you should try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashback_(video_game)

[Chomp]

Watch the end of the world live --> http://webcast.cern.ch/index.html

[Ammon777]

They gonna accelerate 2 very small rocks and let them crash into eachother.
I did that all the time when I was a kid.

[Xtra-Medium]

is this anythang like the large hardon collider?

[Dazarthas]

is this anythang like the large hardon collider?

No, it's not a cockfight.

*rimshot*

[Ammon777]

is this anythang like the large hardon collider?

Thats what we are talkin about.

edit -- oh wait, you tricked me.

[Paralda]

This rap should explain it fine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM

Seriously, though, Cosmic Radiation does this tons of times everyday to our planet, but we're not all dying. Whomever came up with this doomsday theory is just an idiot.

[DeathByCactus]

In truth, no one knows what they are talking about. Allow me to elaborate.

When the atoms collide it will make a representation of my penis. A very small, elaborately designed instrument of mass destruction. Upon the creation of this "representation" my penis will ignite into a massive fireball, which will then consume the tunnel, the countries, and earth, to make a bigger "representation" of my penis. At which point the blast, so big, will then collapse. The collapsed energy will create a black penis "representation" which will within minutes suck in every single piece of matter in the known and unknown universe. Thus creating a massive black hole, which will... you guessed it... look like my penis.

To tie this up quickly, the massive black hole that is a representation of my massive penis will collect so much matter, that it will consume space itself. Thus nothing will remain for all eternity.

Hope that clears it up.

Srsly tho, I hope this fucker works. Maybe it will provide something in the future that can shut those fucking creationalist bastards up.

[Dazarthas]

In truth, no one knows what they are talking about. Allow me to elaborate.

When the atoms collide it will make a representation of my penis. A very small,

I stopped reading there, because I nearly laughed myself into a coma.

[DeathByCactus]

I stopped reading there, because I nearly laughed myself into a coma.

lol :)

[Xtra-Medium]

Thats what we are talkin about.

edit -- oh wait, you tricked me.

:lmao::ninja:

well anyway what would it be like if a bunch of "mini black holes appeared"

[Carl Ragadamn]

Heh. Calm down, everyone.

Well if there is a consensus then we are all doomed. Everytime science has a consensus they are wrong.

[Attau]

For some reason knowing that it would be an instantaneous death that takes all of mankind with me makes me not care if it happens.

Oh and it prolly won't happen anyways

[Carl Ragadamn]

For some reason knowing that it would be an instantaneous death that takes all of mankind with me makes me not care if it happens.

Oh and it prolly won't happen anyways

Unlikely to be an insta kill, there is a question about the existence of a time dilation effect that occurs.

[Leonon]

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is this anythang like the large hardon collider?Yeah, the Large Hardon Collider was based on early drawings of the Large Hadron Collider. For more information check Google Image.

[alfaroverall]

For some reason knowing that it would be an instantaneous death that takes all of mankind with me makes me not care if it happens.

Oh and it prolly won't happen anyways
Black holes wouldn't kill you instantly, you get ripped apart limb from limb and eventually atom by atom.

[Gloomrender]

Black holes wouldn't kill you instantly, you get ripped apart limb from limb and eventually atom by atom.

But you wouldn't know it was happening to you. It would be perceived as instantaneous.

[DeathByCactus]

But you wouldn't know it was happening to you. It would be perceived as instantaneous.

Not if you went feet first into the hole.

[Gloomrender]

Not if you went feet first into the hole.

Time would be slowed down for quite a large area around the black hole. And at some point outside of it when It's field of influence touches you, it would be like being frozen (and subsequently torn apart).

[DeathByCactus]

Time would be slowed down for quite a large area around the black hole. And at some point outside of it when It's field of influence touches you, it would be like being frozen (and subsequently torn apart).

huh... interesting.

[[LoD] EE]

What about all this being Gods plan? If there is this mythical super invisible being in the sky that has everything all planned out for eternity, why is everyone so fucking worried about what will happen?

Just goes to show how deep that faith is. Th religious afraid to go to the holy land.

[Layedballer]

Well if there is a consensus then we are all doomed. Everytime science has a consensus they are wrong.

Quote about it's safety
"the consensus in the scientific community is that there is no basis for any conceivable threat from the LHC particle collisions"

[MatDemon]

Maybe it opens a hold into the realm of Chaos. Then we can have daemons invade our physical plane of existence and feast on the souls of many.

At least it gives me something to do. I'll take up my bolter and fire!

"FOR THE EMPEROR!"

[Protonix]

ever seen highlander 2?

that's the premise for the LHC

[Gibsnag]

Time would be slowed down for quite a large area around the black hole. And at some point outside of it when It's field of influence touches you, it would be like being frozen (and subsequently torn apart).

Would that be when observed from the inside or the outside?

[heroshade]

They had a risk assessment test placed on the thing and the likelihood of a black hole being formed is even lower than the thing creating an inter-dimensional portal which would allow people to glimse through to another part of the universe.

Not to mention experiments like this have been going on constantly with smaller devices, I think it's just religions shit stirring personally.

Isn't there also a better chance of the world ending than me winning the lottery?

[Gloomrender]

Would that be when observed from the inside or the outside?

Well, I suppose you could observe this from the outside if you had the time to, but I would imagine the black hole's field of influence would move incredibly fast (think of it as a speeding tidal wave) and would overcome you before you could really see anything from the outside with some telescope apparatus of sorts. It would overtake our entire solar system in a few seconds...you could probably see chaos amongst the stars/systems around us before it hit, and then it would hit us like lightning.

An interesting question would be what would the effects of a a smaller black hole be and how they would appear to us.

[salaam]

This device is going to make the Big Bang happen once again . It was the scientists who destroyed their world with the exact same kind of an experiment last time.

[Everto]

Creating mischief.

[salaam]

Hate your sig. Always confuses me with the fake spoiler link to a porn site i dont wish to see.

[Darksoul_]

everyone always talks about the mini black holes..but they are BS

What about the strangelets?
thats where the real danger is at imo :|


not that I think the world will end because of the LHC experiments anytime soon

If the strange matter hypothesis is correct and a strangelet comes in contact with a lump of ordinary matter such as Earth, it could convert the ordinary matter to strange matter.[citation needed] This "ice-nine" disaster scenario is as follows: one strangelet hits a nucleus, catalyzing its immediate conversion to strange matter. This liberates energy, producing a larger, more stable strangelet, which in turn hits another nucleus, catalyzing its conversion to strange matter. In the end, all the nuclei of all the atoms of Earth are converted, and Earth is reduced to a hot, large lump of strange matter.

This is not a concern for strangelets in cosmic rays because they are produced far from Earth and have had time to decay to their ground state, which is predicted by most models to be positively charged, so they are electrostatically repelled by nuclei, and would rarely merge with them [11][12]. But high-energy collisions could produce negatively charged strangelet states which live long enough to interact with the nuclei of ordinary matter [13].

[Everto]

Hate your sig. Always confuses me with the fake spoiler link to a porn site i dont wish to see.

Mine? (' )(' )

Mine is innocent.

[Selzifan]

So... where are my higgs? My anti-matter?

[tarsus]

So... where are my higgs? My anti-matter?

I thought it was black matter. We already can make anti-matter so why would we care?

[Selzifan]

I thought it was black matter. We already can make anti-matter so why would we care?

http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/en/Science/Antimatter-en.html

[cky123]

LHC wont kill us until october 21st.

[tarsus]

http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/en/Science/Antimatter-en.html

So they are trying to figure out where anti-matter goes when after it is created or something? Maybe figure out why it doesn't destroy the matter that is created?

[Lictor]

it's "tomorrow" and I'm still alive... wait, there's some dark cloud behind a windo

[Katash]

Shame... The world didn't end...

Guess that means I'll have to study for my two tests on friday afterall :(

[Vertigo Vain]

They will only collide particles at 21s October. So you may live a bit more.

[Lacker]

AFAIK they haven't collided anything. They just did the first full run through(One direction) today.

[ExiliuM]

explained in this rap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM

I thought you were joking but that was real and good lol