Names and Numbers

[stingerII]

I've seen threads mention a last name, that might avoid us having to need special characters or numbers to have enough names. Also if there are first names that are very popular they could still be available.

that said ... if we have 15000 players
lets assume just a 3 letter name combination being allowed, and that names are always Proper Case

i.e. 26 x 26 x 26 provides 17576 total different combinations

21 x 21 x 21 (9261) will be all consonant names
5 x 5 x 5 (125) will be all vowel names

That will provide possibly 8190 possible names, you can round it down to 7000 to allow for combinations that won't make good names.
That's 7000 acceptable names with just three letters!

Naturally if you were to increase the length of the names this number would rise exponentially. If you add last names, well then you will have an infinity of variations.

Conclusion: I think characters are enough

NB. I didn't take accented vowels into account either (e.g. á, é, ó, í, ú, etc.)

Discuss.

[Nitewolf]

characters alone certainly would be enough, however there's always some whiners who can't live with not having "their" nick. if they want to, let them, seeing how the majority on this forum doesn't seem to like that they most likely won't have a great time anyway.

[Morthor]

Nope, rounding it down to 7000 from just over 8000 does not account for the words that make no sense. Most of the combinations of three letter words would end up like 'asd' 'qwe' or some shit.

[Ghostpaw]

The freedom to have... numbers in your name.
The freedom to have... numbers and characters in your name.
The freedom to have... choice.

Stop oppressing what is good about Darkfall.

[Morthor]

I think they should just let you choose whether you have a last name or not. That way, roleplayers are happy and people aren't forced into anything.

[stingerII]

Nope, rounding it down to 7000 from just over 8000 does not account for the words that make no sense. Most of the combinations of three letter words would end up like 'asd' 'qwe' or some shit.

fair enough, but even if you halve it, this is just for three characters we're saying here.

The freedom to have... numbers in your name.
The freedom to have... numbers and characters in your name.
The freedom to have... choice.

Stop oppressing what is good about Darkfall.

lol fine. I was just pointing out that numbers are not "necessary". Still it's true I would rather we not use numbers. Can't be helped I guess

[Devant]

There is not much to discuss.

If the minimum is 3 letters, then there are 26^3 combinations = 17576
with 4... 456.976
with 5... 11.881.376
with 6... 308.915.776
with 7... 8.031.810.176

That's more than the human population in earth.

Even if you want to diregard some combinations, for example, "zzzzzzz", EVEN if you go as far as to say that 99% of all combinations are invalid, leaving only 1%, with 9 letters max, you can have 2.088.270.645 names. I think only latin characters, without spaces, numbers, special language chars, with both names and surnames up to 7 letters each, are much more than enough.

EDIT: With 14 letters added up, there 64.509.974.703.297.150.976 combinations. If we say that only 0,0000000001% of them are valid, there will be 645.099.748. Aren't they enough?

[Jonkar]

I think they should just let you choose whether you have a last name or not. That way, roleplayers are happy and people aren't forced into anything.

I agree.

[Razli]

Indeed numbers arent needed, but people need the numbers sometimes. and about last names, I'm not overly sure. Mayeb they will implement a chocie of having a last name. Or maybe only having a Last name it the First name you choose didnt already have somebody with that name.

[Mole]

Is the last name unique?

If i pick my last name, example Darkfall, is it possible, that other people might have that too.

THat means we would be related.

I haven't been reading about anything like that,

[T-Man]

First of all, If you just count how many letters are slapped together ya, you can get a crap load of variety, but little would actually be words. I'm not making my name awidjawidj in game.

And I really don't see why people are so against Last names and Numbers in the names. It will give more variety and make things easier to read. Might get a bit of "1337" names but that's fine by me.

I guess people will find something to complain about no matter what.

[Razli]

I guess people will find something to complain about no matter what.

This is true and always will be in the world. You can never cater for everykind of opinion.

[SaintHubbins]

The freedom to have... numbers in your name.
The freedom to have... numbers and characters in your name.
The freedom to have... choice.

Stop oppressing what is good about Darkfall.

freedom is overrated

be a fookin sheep for once

[T-Man]

Is the last name unique?

If i pick my last name, example Darkfall, is it possible, that other people might have that too.

THat means we would be related.

I haven't been reading about anything like that,

From last I heard, The First name and Last name will need to be a unique. So if you pick say "Mole Darkfall" I can make a "TMan Darkfall" or "Darkfall Mole".

But I don't know if they changed that or not. Way to many people bitching and moaning about it... I hope the Devs stick to their words of not giving in to the people that complain about stuff of the game. If they don't we will have carebear nation in like 6 months after release.

[IcePillow]

What if I want to use swedish letters?
Then there's 3 more in your calculation.

[5%Luck]

Even though your name will be hidden and you can use the disguse skill I still think names are very important. The fact remains that SCS is in and will be so at launch. But, later one if the devs decided SRS that last name gives them an option that no last name would not. So long term possibility make the last name very meaningful in DF. Not to mention crafting and maybe even player made landmark(statues,monuments) all the more meaningful.

As to those who have their name and simply wont be happy with out them. Everywhere you go trying to stay with a name is tough. Players know this and all "real" players have alt names that we use. Some even more. Adding a last name to the combo really shouldn't be difficult for the least imaginative among us. I like to pick obscure philosopher names when I need an original 2 part name. Or a mega famous inventor/explorer. If thats all taken I start down the long list of generals and famous war heroes. Then politicians from round the world from deep into history. That should equal at least 6000 possibility. Would I be happy with a personage that I dont familiarize with. Not really no. But that option is available.

Genghis kahn = 5%Luck Kahn or Genghis 5%luck and so on!

Imanuel Kant, Shwag Mizer, Glyphin Mortailis and, Ishmeal DaWize, Just to list a few of my favorites.

Good luck naming is half the fun IMO!

[Helgeran]

As long as apostrophes are out I'm happy.

[Shinsengumi]

Listomar Despurden says: "Circle around them, and hit them with a fireball!"
R41STL1N1337 says: "Roger that."

No.. :(