Evidence Mounting For Super Massive Black Hole At Center Of Milky Way

[Parabola]

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn14660-milky-ways-black-hole-gets-extreme-closeup.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=news2_head_dn14660

[Spinewire]

i thought this was a forgone conclusion already?

[Battle]

There is something about mounting and black holes that makes me horny.

[Uzik]

Does this mean we are all doomed?

[shnedit]

There is something about mounting and black holes that makes me horny.

Phew, thought I was the only one with a semi.

[Sprite]

i thought this was a forgone conclusion already?

I'm fairly sure we already had proof of it as well, and not only for our own galaxy - but a few others. We discussed it a bit when I took Astrophysics.

[Uzik]

I'm fairly sure we already had proof of it as well, and not only for our own galaxy - but a few others. We discussed it a bit when I took Astrophysics.

Did your name turn a darker shade of orange than other mods, or am I losing my vision?

[slugy]

fuck me... OLD

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3834632996973653146

have fun.

[Forgin]

Will I get sucked in?

[Fro]

So we're all fucked basicly. Thats always nice to know.

[slugy]

I'm fairly sure we already had proof of it as well, and not only for our own galaxy - but a few others. We discussed it a bit when I took Astrophysics.

as far as im aware (im not actually sure cos ive not been there and thrown rocks at the fuckers) there is a black hole (of the supermassive size) in every galaxy. i believe thats how galaxies come about and are created.

[tallefred]

It's going to destroy the universe in 2013. Too bad we'll miss it.

[Pumpkin]

Checkmate Black-Hole-At-The-Centre-Of-Milky-Way-Deniers.

[slugy]

So we're all fucked basicly. Thats always nice to know.

yes we are, but that was always fact anyway, the sun will blow up before a super massive black hole eats you and your fave cricket bat though. most are dormant, apart from quasars, which are, basically black holes still 'feeding'.

[shnedit]

Did your name turn a darker shade of orange than other mods, or am I losing my vision?

It is darker. I demand a reason why!

[slugy]

Will I get sucked in?

only if you cross the event horizon

[Spinewire]

as far as im aware (im not actually sure cos ive not been there and thrown rocks at the fuckers) there is a black hole (of the supermassive size) in every galaxy. i believe thats how galaxies come about and are created.
god made them

[slugy]

god made them

fuck you.

[trichlor]

Evidence Mounting For Super Massive Black Hole At Center Of Milky WayWE'RE BEING FLUSHED DOWN A TOILET!!!

:ohno::ohno::ohno:

[paade]

only if you cross the event horizon

zoning. lame.

[Spinewire]

zoning. lame.
hahaha

[slugy]

zoning. lame.

yeah that shits lame =(
i loled btw.

[Lethn]

Personally I don't know what the extreme fear behind black holes is, no ones discovered what happens when something gets envoloped by it, for all we know it could be just a portal that makes the object get sucked through out the other side to another part of space. Tons of theories surround the damn thing so I don't see why people should get all panicky about it.

[shnedit]

Personally I don't know what the extreme fear behind black holes is, no ones discovered what happens when something gets envoloped by it, for all we know it could be just a portal that makes the object get sucked through out the other side to another part of space. Tons of theories surround the damn thing so I don't see why people should get all panicky about it.

It might transport you to a paralel universe made of beer *drool*.

[Helgeran]

Does this mean we are all doomed?
Both yes and no.

[Spinewire]

It might transport you to a paralel universe made of beer *drool*.
will there be "Beans lot of beans lots of beans lots of beans?
Personally I don't know what the extreme fear behind black holes is, no ones discovered what happens when something gets envoloped by it, for all we know it could be just a portal that makes the object get sucked through out the other side to another part of space. Tons of theories surround the damn thing so I don't see why people should get all panicky about it.
you wish... that shit will wreck you

DO NOT PLAY BY THE HOLE!

[Someone]

Personally I don't know what the extreme fear behind black holes is, no ones discovered what happens when something gets envoloped by it, for all we know it could be just a portal that makes the object get sucked through out the other side to another part of space. Tons of theories surround the damn thing so I don't see why people should get all panicky about it.

Well your body would be ripped apart by gravaitational pull before you reached the centre, but your abnormally mangled corpse may show up somewhere else in the universe or some other universe.

What I mainly didn't already know before reading the article was that the milky way may have come from a previous galactic collision and that it makes the two galaxies merge. Interesting to know as the Milky way will probably collide with the Andromeda galaxy in the future.

[Helgeran]

Let me tell you a secret: any gravitational source is super dangerous. If you are up in the sky and get sucked down to the earth you're gonna get squished or burn up depending on your speed.

[slugy]

Personally I don't know what the extreme fear behind black holes is, no ones discovered what happens when something gets envoloped by it, for all we know it could be just a portal that makes the object get sucked through out the other side to another part of space. Tons of theories surround the damn thing so I don't see why people should get all panicky about it.


LOLOLOLOL thats a dream. once your in your fucking dead.
a black hole = gravity gone mad. maybe you could train yourself up on jupiter to withstand the forces and then eventually work your way up to normal black holes and then finally SMBHs.

use your brain. not even light can escape so what your saying is pretty much a dream.

[shnedit]

will there be "Beans lot of beans lots of beans lots of beans?


Sure if you want why not? The trees may as well be made out of candy too.

[Spinewire]

Sure if you want why not? The trees may as well be made out of candy too.
what about you you replaced beans with rape? and candy with pedos?

[Lethn]

LOLOLOLOL thats a dream. once your in your fucking dead.
a black hole = gravity gone mad. maybe you could train yourself up on jupiter to withstand the forces and then eventually work your way up to normal black holes and then finally SMBHs.

use your brain. not even light can escape so what your saying is pretty much a dream.

No what I'm saying is fucking science you moron, it's not been proven what happens after something gets sucked through a black hole, we know it aborbs light but does that mean it absorbs matter too? Quite frankly I'd be more afraid of that dark matter stuff that can be found in space more than a freaking black hole decided to go and reach Earth.

[Comatosis]

If we didnt have the Blackhole then how would we Deliver Dominoes to other Galaxys. AND NO getting sucked into it means a change of environment.
Not that The black hole is new its been there before we where here so im sure if anything bad gos down.
We will beable to play darkfall all the othere mmo's coming out get old die and about 10000 years later it may get sucked in or maybe Milkie ways Golly hole will tighten back up.
INTER GALACTIC KEGGAL'S.

[tallefred]

Actually, it's made up of highly concentrated matter with a ton of gravity. We don't know where you'll end up, but we do know that when you do get there you'll be squished.

[slugy]

No what I'm saying is fucking science you moron, it's not been proven what happens after something gets sucked through a black hole, we know it aborbs light but does that mean it absorbs matter too? Quite frankly I'd be more afraid of that dark matter stuff that can be found in space more than a freaking black hole decided to go and reach Earth.

lol quasar = feeding black hole. that means its feeding on EVERYTHING in the galaxy. im guessing that means matter too =/

this moron dont know shit. =(

[Desperado[1G]]

more like a white hole

[Delwyn]

No what I'm saying is fucking science you moron, it's not been proven what happens after something gets sucked through a black hole, we know it aborbs light but does that mean it absorbs matter too? Quite frankly I'd be more afraid of that dark matter stuff that can be found in space more than a freaking black hole decided to go and reach Earth.

We can observe black holes eating stars. And stars are made of matter.

And there exist to evidence that dark matter can theaten anything as far as I know.

[willithesm]

scary

[Surly]

Clearly this is the result of Global Warming.

[slugy]

Clearly this is the result of Global Warming.

earthquakes add to it also.

[Carl Ragadamn]

Did your name turn a darker shade of orange than other mods, or am I losing my vision?

He was Yellow, then Red, now they combined for the super powers of orange.

[Beeblebrox]

Have you ever been to Orion? I have...there's a better view from the black hole there. Nice folks too. I think I might pay them a visit soon...

[Nefastus]

So we are getting near 2012. With that, we have a super black hole in our galaxy, religious maniac terrorists suicide bombers, religious maniac countries building nukes, global warming, Russia v3.0, Mega Capitalist Communist Regime with Nukes and 1.3 Billion Zerglings, and The Large Hadron Collider.

Naaaa, nothing will happen! Don't worry!

[Someone]

So we are getting near 2012. With that, we have a super black hole in our galaxy, religious maniac terrorists suicide bombers, religious maniac countries building nukes, global warming, Russia v3.0, Mega Capitalist Communist Regime with Nukes and 1.3 Billion Zerglings, and The Large Hadron Collider.

Naaaa, nothing will happen! Don't worry!

Meh, we have had that black hole for as long as the galaxy has existed, in fact chances are good that without it we wouldn't have any of the rest as then the galaxy likely wouldn't exist. As for the rest, they won't manage to get anywhere before Mecha Barbra lays waste to the planet after Robert Smith has died of anal cancer.

[PrimalSign]

No what I'm saying is fucking science you moron, it's not been proven what happens after something gets sucked through a black hole

Maybe there's something you're not getting.

The sheer gravitational force tears your molecules apart and you basically disintegrate before you reach the singularity.

What you suggest is pure fantasy - not science.

[epicor]

yes we are, but that was always fact anyway, the sun will blow up before a super massive black hole eats you and your fave cricket bat though. most are dormant, apart from quasars, which are, basically black holes still 'feeding'.

FALSE SLUGO!! Quasars are not feeding black holes. They have ejecta, which black holes, by definition cannot have. However they could be exit points for Einstein-Rosen wormholes. Considering some sort of infinite physics exist at the connection point keeping them open. (We dont yet know how this might work, there are only distant theories)

What you are seeing as the quasar is actually the accumulation of crap floating just outside the blackholes grip. Stuff knocked into orbit, but not sucked in directly. The intense rotation and friction causes the glowing.

As for the end of the world stuff, our galaxy has already given the blackhole everthing it can reach. We dont have a quasar in our center. Basically the blackhole has already eaten as far as it can reach out and cant get bigger until something supermassive collides with our galaxy (like the andromeda galaxy). This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxtsUNA1tk8&feature=related) is obviously over dramatized, but a decent explaination.

[pyrow]

I heard the center of every galaxy is a black hole. And @ those who are scared because there are black holes in our galaxy.. theyre far away, itll take literally unlimited years for it to pull us in. I think even if earth was destroyed, people would still be here, and eventually we'll find out a way to move our civilization to a safer place.

The real threat on earth is that machine they want to run in a few days, has a 50% chance of creating blackhole(s) on earth, they say they might be tiny, but still, nobody knows wtf they do.

[Rahavin]

I'm surprised no one has made a Muse reference yet.

Ooh baby, don't you know I suffer
Ooh baby, can't you hear me moan?
You caught me under false pretenses
How long before you let me go

Ooh, you set my soul alight
Ooh, you set my soul alight

Glaciers melting in the dead of night
And the superstar's sucked into the supermassive
(Ooh, you set my soul alight)
Glaciers melting in the dead of night
And the superstar's sucked into the...
(Ooh, you set my soul...)
Into the supermassive

I thought I was a fool for no one
Ooh baby, I'm a fool for you
You're the queen of the superficial
How long before you tell the truth

Ooh, you set my soul alight
Ooh, you set my soul alight

Glaciers melting in the dead of night
And the superstar's sucked into the supermassive
(Ooh, you set my soul alight)
Glaciers melting in the dead of night
And the superstar's sucked into the...
(Ooh, you set my soul)
Into the supermassive

Supermassive black hole
Supermassive black hole
Supermassive black hole
Supermassive black hole

Glaciers melting in the dead of night
And the superstar's sucked into the supermassive
Glaciers melting in the dead of night
And the superstar's sucked into the supermassive

Glaciers melting in the dead of night
And the superstars sucked into the supermassive
(Ooh, you set my soul alight)
Glaciers melting in the dead of night
And the superstars sucked into the
(Ooh, you set my soul...)
Into the supermassive

Supermassive black hole
Supermassive black hole
Supermassive black hole
Supermassive black hole

[bluthorn]

Proof that Forumfallers will argue about anything.

[Someone]

The real threat on earth is that machine they want to run in a few days, has a 50% chance of creating blackhole(s) on earth, they say they might be tiny, but still, nobody knows wtf they do.

They would be tiny enough to be able to fall through earth and actually not hit any atoms, at most they would strip off a few electrons. Also if Hawkings theories hold through they would vanish after a few seconds. So the chances of some galaxy collapsing even is really really small.

[tallefred]

Proof that Forumfallers will argue about anything.

You needed proof?

[pyrow]

In the end, in say unlimited years, there will be nothing but black holes, and unlimited years later, there will be 2 blackholes and they will be circling eachother and getting faster and faster, closer and closer to eachother, until the day they collide. Which I believe is how the universe regenerates itself. It will be another "big bang" type thing, but nobody will be alive when it happens.. and new planets and stuff will emerge and form, then boom the cycle of life happens for another unlimted amount of time then the black holes will just keep doing it over and over...

[tallefred]

In the end, in say unlimited years, there will be nothing but black holes, and unlimited years later, there will be 2 blackholes and they will be circling eachother and getting faster and faster, closer and closer to eachother, until the day they collide. Which I believe is how the universe regenerates itself. It will be another "big bang" type thing, but nobody will be alive when it happens.. and new planets and stuff will emerge and form, then boom the cycle of life happens for another unlimted amount of time then the black holes will just keep doing it over and over...

That's completely crazy and yet sounds really cool. Looks like you've solved the problem with the big bang theory.

[Vertigo Vain]

What? No black hole deniers? Is it Forumfall or i missed the right turn?

[pyrow]

That's completely crazy and yet sounds really cool. Looks like you've solved the problem with the big bang theory.

Its not really crazy, in fact scientists have said that's what will happen, eventually there will be nothing but black holes, and they will just be consuming eachother and getting bigger or whatever, and then near the end will be only 2 blackholes left, huuuuuuuuge might i add. And they will circle eachother until they collide. Im just sayin thats how the big bang shit happened because what else is there? and you dont think the universe just ends and theres nothing left do you? thats insane... :P

im not bashing you im just explaining further. but yeah thats how i think the universe regenerates itself.. if I knew what happened inside a black hole I could be proven wrong or right, it really depends if blackholes = another universe :P but if that was the case id still be right, because what if the 2 at the end do some miracle or some shit and make 1 universe (aka big bang)

[tallefred]

Its not really crazy, in fact scientists have said that's what will happen, eventually there will be nothing but black holes, and they will just be consuming eachother and getting bigger or whatever, and then near the end will be only 2 blackholes left, huuuuuuuuge might i add. And they will circle eachother until they collide. Im just sayin thats how the big bang shit happened because what else is there? and you dont think the universe just ends and theres nothing left do you? thats insane... :P

im not bashing you im just explaining further. but yeah thats how i think the universe regenerates itself.. if I knew what happened inside a black hole I could be proven wrong or right, it really depends if blackholes = another universe :P but if that was the case id still be right, because what if the 2 at the end do some miracle or some shit and make 1 universe (aka big bang)

Oh. I thought this was something you had come up with on your own, which would have been pretty neat. I haven't heard this theory before.

Of course it still doesn't solve the problem of what caused the first big bang which started the process, but it's still an interesting theory.

[Lusain]

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn14660-milky-ways-black-hole-gets-extreme-closeup.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=news2_head_dn14660

neat

[slugy]

FALSE SLUGO!! Quasars are not feeding black holes. They have ejecta, which black holes, by definition cannot have. However they could be exit points for Einstein-Rosen wormholes. Considering some sort of infinite physics exist at the connection point keeping them open. (We dont yet know how this might work, there are only distant theories)

What you are seeing as the quasar is actually the accumulation of crap floating just outside the blackholes grip. Stuff knocked into orbit, but not sucked in directly. The intense rotation and friction causes the glowing.

As for the end of the world stuff, our galaxy has already given the blackhole everthing it can reach. We dont have a quasar in our center. Basically the blackhole has already eaten as far as it can reach out and cant get bigger until something supermassive collides with our galaxy (like the andromeda galaxy). This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxtsUNA1tk8&feature=related) is obviously over dramatized, but a decent explaination.

you talk sense, and indeed a quasar is the gasses etc rubbing on eachother causing amazing heat and light, i chose my words poorly and you pwnt me for it =(
i ment its the gasses around the black hole. you know your shit though.

[Lethn]

Its not really crazy, in fact scientists have said that's what will happen, eventually there will be nothing but black holes, and they will just be consuming eachother and getting bigger or whatever, and then near the end will be only 2 blackholes left, huuuuuuuuge might i add. And they will circle eachother until they collide. Im just sayin thats how the big bang shit happened because what else is there? and you dont think the universe just ends and theres nothing left do you? thats insane... :P

im not bashing you im just explaining further. but yeah thats how i think the universe regenerates itself.. if I knew what happened inside a black hole I could be proven wrong or right, it really depends if blackholes = another universe :P but if that was the case id still be right, because what if the 2 at the end do some miracle or some shit and make 1 universe (aka big bang)

Are you fucking out of your mind? They haven't said anything about black holes creating the universe, in fact there's also another theory out their called 'string theory' where it's not in fact two objects but two strings that collide with each other if I remember correctly I just watched a documentary about the damn thing and these were physicists explaining it not me.

What the fuck happened to common sense in this thread? Seriously I'm sure there are some scientists that can explain it better than me here.

[epicor]

Lethn - His thoughts are actually pretty accurate. He just hasnt used the proper verbage to make it align with the theory he is quoting. In terms of pure science there are only 2 possible outcomes with the universe:

A) The universe works in cycles and will eventually collapse back down into the bigbang 'egg'.

B) The universe dissolves into a nuetrino soup.

Further explaination:

A) Cycles - This theory stats that the universe is on an infinite loop. It explodes, everything happens and it recondenses. The cycle loops with the 'everything happens' segment happening EXACTLY the same way over n over. So there are infinite yous and mes in a loop that will make EACTLY the same choices over and over for all time. The physics behind this theory assert that all matter will eventually be sucked into 1 blackhole or another. Those blackholes, having no other sources of gravity slowly move towards each other, eventually combining into 1. That 1 compresses itself more and more and more until it reaches critical compression and begins to cool. The cooling allows for expansion, making more surface area, allowing more cooling and BOOOOM big bang. The cycle begins again.

B) Neutrino Soup - This theory asserts that all matter will eventually be reduced into the lowest possible matter: neutrinos. Since neutrinos can't be broken down any further and are so stable that they won't accept any more matter they sit infinitely in space, neither growing nor shrinking. It's only a matter of time before everything gets broken down to its lowest possible version: Neutrions. This theory, or couse, is retarded since darkmatter (the infinitely dense crap at the bottom of a non-einstein-rosen blackhole) could further compress neutrinos until you go back to option A.

~EDIT~ I thought it important to point out that i am a creationist. Though the two are no mutually exclusive.

Strings - Though i might also give a quick rundown on strings. So lets start at the top: Atoms.

Atoms consist of Protons, Neutrons and Electrons. Those consist of subatomic particles called quarks. These quarks contain no matter, and therefore are not subject to gravity (i dont know who named the quarks but they have some goodfy names, wiki for more info). Along with quarks are the above mentioned neutrinos and photons which are in a state just this side of converting back to energy (which is why light travels in both waves and photons). Further breaking down quarks reveals, strings.

Without going too in depth there are several theories on strings, the most (imo) relavant and stable theory, asserts that there are 11 dimensions with which the strings can interact. 10 space and 1 time. These strings arent matter either and are purely mathematic, but they describe a way in which the universe in completely connected from end to end via uniting loops in the strings and they (once finally deciphered) will be the ground level for the universal constant. That magical number, which when applied to the universe will consolidate all the missing peices in current math.

[Lusain]

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn14660-milky-ways-black-hole-gets-extreme-closeup.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=news2_head_dn14660

Well thanks to your link, I started following links and reading and learning, and I now have learned a little about quantum mechanics, quantum entanglement, naked singularities, and the list goes on.

What an interesting couple hours. Thanks.

[epicor]

science is fun huh?

[Parabola]

Well thanks to your link, I started following links and reading and learning, and I now have learned a little about quantum mechanics, quantum entanglement, naked singularities, and the list goes on.

What an interesting couple hours. Thanks.

No problem. You should look up Brian Greene and Michio Kaku as well is you are interested in quantum physics and string theory.

[losinglife]

Obama once said he would have voted for a black hole, but actually voted present when it came time.

[Killersos]

Obama once said he would have voted for a black hole, but actually voted present when it came time.

Yeah... cuz that makes sense.

[Gloomrender]

Good thing the black hole in our galaxy pushed us, (what would become us I should say) so far away from it, billions of years ago.

[DeathByCactus]

Lol... Kinda a depressing/exciting thread. To think that one day we will die, never again to be concious in any form. Yet the universe will go on for eternity....one life out of eternity. Euw. Makes me want to go get drunk.

[FuelTheRage]

Im supprised that no one has posed an artical on the LHC

[Parabola]

Im supprised that no one has posed an artical on the LHC

When is that going live? October? I read it got postponed but not sure till when.

[Gloomrender]

Lol... Kinda a depressing/exciting thread. To think that one day we will die, never again to be concious in any form. Yet the universe will go on for eternity....one life out of eternity. Euw. Makes me want to go get drunk.

Geeze, you're a push over. Read some Marrik threads and then journal how you feel after that!

[DeathByCactus]

Geeze, you're a push over. Read some Marrik threads and then journal how you feel after that!

I've heard they are quite creepy. I'll search for them tomorrow.

[losinglife]

Yeah... cuz that makes sense.

actually makes perfect sense.

[Teutates]

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn14660-milky-ways-black-hole-gets-extreme-closeup.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=news2_head_dn14660

Old

[Rossco]

Yet there is still no plausible theory about how the first cycle occured. I, personally, believe the key to finding out how the universe original 'started' would be found down the road of finding out what exactly it is that happens inside a singularity (center of a black hole), and what the singularity does to everything it consumes, which could be anything atall seeing as the laws of physics (Right?) cease to exist in a singularity.

But don't quote me, as I know very little about science, and as such my post cannot be trusted.

[Lofwyrr]

oh, well.

changed my mind :)