Darkfall for linux? or WINE?

[ian_ellis]

Will DFO run in linux or will WINE be able to run it?

[Astaren]

It is being created for windows for now, but for linux.. maybe in the future

[ian_ellis]

dang. maybe if I just happen to be accepted into beta I will find out if WINE works

[yamisniper]

dang. maybe if I just happen to be accepted into beta I will find out if WINE works

cant hurt :) im pretty sure it will if Wow runs darkfall should too

[ian_ellis]

cant hurt :) im pretty sure it will if Wow runs darkfall should too

Yes this is true.

Thanks for the uplift.

[Arkh]

But we'll have to see how much perf we loose with wine.

[Willwh]

I would imagine DF will run in WINE with a little work, it is only directX 9.0, which is mostly supported. WINE (wndows is not an emulator) is a compatibility layer for windows system calls in linux.

I will most definitely be installing DF with WINE & submitting any bug reports to the wine bug zilla, http://bugs.winehq.org/.

There are a number of threads about this issue though; please use the Search Button (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/search.php)

[Dwhap]

Will DFO run in linux or will WINE be able to run it?

Yes it will probably work using WINE. Almost all windows games work in Linux using WINE (and they have better FPS too...).

[Zorban]

I dont think it will run all that good in wine.
My best bet would be using some better 3d emulator like Cedega from transgaming.
Most games run on that. Only problem is its not free

[ian_ellis]

I will just test it out in wine first before I go buying anything. If I get into beta I will be posting bugs in the bug zilla.

[Tsujiku]

I would imagine DF will run in WINE with a little work, it is only directX 9.0, which is mostly supported. WINE (wndows is not an emulator) is a compatibility layer for windows system calls in linux.

I will most definitely be installing DF with WINE & submitting any bug reports to the wine bug zilla, http://bugs.winehq.org/.

There are a number of threads about this issue though; please use the Search Button (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/search.php)

I was under the impression that WINE was a recursive name that stood for WINE is not an emulator.

[Sargon]

Aventurine will not under any circumstances support or guarantee the game to work on any other platform but a Windows PC with DirectX. If you think you can get it to work on another operating system, go ahead, but Aventurine isn't going to give technical support or help of any kind, or any promises of it working, or any refunds of it doesn't.

[keeperofstars]

Aventurine will not under any circumstances support or guarantee the game to work on any other platform but a Windows PC with DirectX. If you think you can get it to work on another operating system, go ahead, but Aventurine isn't going to give technical support or help of any kind, or any promises of it working, or any refunds of it doesn't.

obviously

I do like the fact that when the devs were asked if they would ever make it for another platform. IE mac / linux they said they would port it to linux before they would mac.
lol

[biggunsar]

Yes this is true.

Thanks for the uplift.

uhhh not a big time linux user are ya?

it all depends. Especially on the video emulation.

so just because wow works in wine, doens't mean dark fall will.

[UndeadHawk]

[...]WINE (wndows is not an emulator) is a compatibility layer for windows system calls in linux.[...]

WINE stands for "WINE is not an emulator", I just wanted to make that clear. Probably it will run with WINE, I hope so at least. Just because WoW does so that does not mean DF will, they are two completely different games.

[bobbyhashemi]

there really needs to be more games for linux.

[Curcio]

WINE sounds cool. Is it pretty stable?

*sidetrack: Does it run Zone Alarm?

[biggunsar]

WINE sounds cool. Is it pretty stable?

*sidetrack: Does it run Zone Alarm?

NO it does not run zone alarm LOL

if you want a gui firewall use firestarter.

ZOne alarm is a great firewall...IF...you don't run a home network with it.

[sppt]

i'll be trying it on darwine, to see whether it runs on osx(86)

[ian_ellis]

uhhh not a big time linux user are ya?

it all depends. Especially on the video emulation.

so just because wow works in wine, doens't mean dark fall will.

Just starting out with using Ubuntu

[Blodpls]

Just starting out with using Ubuntu

I got ubuntu I much prefer to windows, get the cube 3d desktop going it pwns all.

[ian_ellis]

yeah right now I only use windows to play games. I do everything else with linux.

[alfaroverall]

Generally when it comes to running games, Wine needs some tinkering (whether by you or by the main "developers") for any new game, by what I've read. So it probably won't work on release, but if some people do a little work it should work a few months later.

[biggunsar]

Just starting out with using Ubuntu

I have been using forms of linux (red hat) (mandrake) (and recently ubuntu) for years. I started out using redhat 7.3 in the fortune 500 company I worked in, as thier network admin.

So, linux ain't new.

But for you linux fans out there. Linux is as good as windows and vise versa. If your not smart enough to see, both OS's have thier strong and weak points. Then you're no network admin.

Linux is stable, but you need more servers to run a proper network.
WIndows is not so stable, but you need less servers in the environment.

Linux can't fulfill a domain controller role, with the security windows can.
windows can do more roles, but the more roles it plays, the more it is susceptible to buffer underruns and reboots.

Linux is hard to configure, so once it's configured you leave it the hell alone.
windows is easy to configure, faster troubleshooting and repair on major issues. but again is more susceptible to stability.

linux isnt' backwards compatible. You must use the apps for that kernel. Hence why it's so stable, but that limits the OS.
windows is backwards compatible, it allows more freedom from the OS, but that inturn makes it unstable.


if you linux fans can't admit to the above. You're obviously in a dream world. And denial is never a good thing, son.

[biggunsar]

yeah right now I only use windows to play games. I do everything else with linux.

really......what about exchange...linux got anything as good as exchange?
LOL

[Dwhap]

really......what about exchange...linux got anything as good as exchange?
LOL

Yes. It's called Zimbra and we just replaced our corporate Exchange system with it. Oh yea I forgot to mention IT'S FREE...!

[Willwh]

WINE sounds cool. Is it pretty stable?

*sidetrack: Does it run Zone Alarm?

iptables ftw.

After all the replies, it seems no one read my post. Wine has good support for DirectX 9.0 - so, Darkfall *should* run, depending on what the launcher/updater require... I run all the orange box games on my *nix rig, War 3, used to play WoW on it, and Savage 2 (which has a native linux client that looks simply superb), amongst others.

*If* after a week I can't get this running under wine - I'll simply dual boot xp to play.

[biggunsar]

Yes. It's called Zimbra and we just replaced our corporate Exchange system with it. Oh yea I forgot to mention IT'S FREE...!

and it has calendar options, rpc over http availability, and can do out of office messaging and create rules client side?

WOW, just looking at the demo. I guess I will try that out next week.

[Dwhap]

and it has calendar options, rpc over http availability, and can do out of office messaging and create rules client side?

WOW, just looking at the demo. I guess I will try that out next week.

Yea so far it's great. We started with free version but decided to actually buy their corporate license so we could get formal tech support, the Outlook connector (you can use outlook with it so your users won't know anything has changed on the backend...), and support for wireless sync for blackberries. Their web-client and their fat client are both supieror to Outlook, but some users just hate anything new..

If you do decide to buy the corporate license, it still costs 1/3 the cost of MS Exchange licenses (plus you don't need to buy an OS license)

[mercnet]

I dont think it will run all that good in wine.
My best bet would be using some better 3d emulator like Cedega from transgaming.
Most games run on that. Only problem is its not free

Why even bother running games in linux? I use linux at work and at home, but for gaming I use a windows box. Saves a ton of headache time.

For those that are going to say "I R LINUX MASTA!" I am going to say, masters of linux do not play games on server OSes.

Winblows was made for gaming. I do not advocate the use of windows for gaming becuase I am a fanboi, but because from experience, running a game not native to linux is asking for trouble and headache.

[Magar]

EvE just released their "linux client" which is basically their windows client packaged with Cedega. I would imagine it would be very simple for Aventurine to do something similar.

Not everyone HAS a windows machine, there are all kinds of people with all kinds of requirements for running a computer at home.

P.S - It always makes me laugh seeing "Windows is for gaming" posts. Microsoft killed the Amiga by simply saying it was a games machine and Intel/Windows was a "real" computer. Funny how opinions change to whatever is popular on the day isn't it?

[nathanpinard]

There's no point in porting to mac. Not long from now we'll probably have fully native emulation within MacOS.

At any rate, I prefer bootcamp. Only game I ordered for Mac is Spore, because the style of gameplay is kind of a nice break from working on projects.

I use Windows for "all night gaming" events.

[Durindana]

Yes it will probably work using WINE. Almost all windows games work in Linux using WINE (and they have better FPS too...).

errrrm I would say this is a serious overstatement. WINE does work great for some games, and frequently does give better performance in them, but those often have had special contributions to WINE in order to support system calls that weren't initially supported.

Many, many games whose devs don't give a shit about Linux don't run in WINE or don't run acceptably

That said, Aventurine would get serious props from me if they devoted some dev time post-release to improving WINE compatibility.

[Shadowcreep]

Just because I can (screw the three pages prior):

Darkfall is being developed only for Windows.

[Durindana]

obviously

I do like the fact that when the devs were asked if they would ever make it for another platform. IE mac / linux they said they would port it to linux before they would mac.
lol

That is very likely because wrapping up DirectX games to run on x86 Macs requires significant porting work, e.g. Cider (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransGaming_Technologies) from TransGaming (the same folks who sell Cedega) because OS X is built atop OpenGL.

WINE and Cedega on Linux, on the other hand, don't have to worry about OpenGL at all, only about mapping DirectX calls.

It certainly isn't because Linux is a bigger games market than Mac OS; 8% worldwide market share (or whatever) is a shitload of machines, but there's not a lot of reason to port when Boot Camp or Parallels let you run Windows just for games anyway.