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Lightsteel
09-03-2008, 08:53 PM
Do you think the time will be wasted with a collectors edition or pre-order specials? Since the gear can be lost 10 seconds after you get it? What kind of special deal do you think Darkfall can do if they did offer a collectors edition?

AngryBarrel
09-03-2008, 08:56 PM
There will be full loot so you can just loot the pre-order gear. I HIGHLY doubt they will add it in, it seems very un darkfall like.

Don JoHnson
09-03-2008, 08:57 PM
i hope for a CE, i would buy it, no matter whats in. simply to show that trying new stuff should be honored.

Don JoHnson
09-03-2008, 08:58 PM
There will be full loot so you can just loot the pre-order gear. I HIGHLY doubt they will add it in, it seems very un darkfall like.

why has there to be any ingame items? how about some design arts? or a world map or something like that

greeneggsnoham
09-03-2008, 08:58 PM
There will be full loot so you can just loot the pre-order gear. I HIGHLY doubt they will add it in, it seems very un darkfall like.

There is a somewhat relevant quote from Tasos here (http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/3070-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-24-Full-Freedom-Gameplay-and-Substance.2).

Anyone can have a mount in Darkfall, and you don't need to fulfill a special set of conditions, reach a certain level, save gold for months, win a contest, or preorder the game to own one.

We can probably safely assume that there will be no rhinos or mammoths for pre-orders

Nemesis X
09-03-2008, 08:58 PM
I hopethe there is no CE or pre-order.. or at least they dont give anything

Lightsteel
09-03-2008, 08:58 PM
There will be full loot so you can just loot the pre-order gear. I HIGHLY doubt they will add it in, it seems very un darkfall like.

yea thats what i think 2..but is there something you think they might do to encourage a collectors edition? Maybe like a special in item creating? like color on armor or something? Even tho its lootable people may want to collect colored armor or weapons..

Lightsteel
09-03-2008, 09:03 PM
why has there to be any ingame items? how about some design arts? or a world map or something like that

i would get the CE just for that reason..but most ppl are turned on by "In-Game Gear" so they have an "advantage"over the other players.

zorena
09-03-2008, 09:07 PM
Do you think the time will be wasted with a collectors edition or pre-order specials? Since the gear can be lost 10 seconds after you get it? What kind of special deal do you think Darkfall can do if they did offer a collectors edition?

I Really understand companys who wanna milk their customers but really how fair is it to let some ppl in "early" or give some ppl more stuff ingame because they payed more for the product. Bad concept from the start imo.

Netdevil
09-03-2008, 09:41 PM
I'd enjoy seeing something implemented that couldn't be taken for Pre-order bonuses or collectors editions, IE Jewelry, Trophys, something like a Weap Chant to pour over a sword (Glowy Effect ), Flags to wear like Samurai or to put on Veh/Boats Etc..

Net

yamisniper
09-03-2008, 09:42 PM
there will be no pre orders

Knocky
09-03-2008, 09:44 PM
Personal house invulnerability would be a nice pre-order bonus. :)

Fro
09-03-2008, 09:44 PM
I dont think they'll give free weapons with a special edition game, maybe some posters or lore books but nothing of much in-game value.

Lightsteel
09-03-2008, 09:45 PM
Personal house invulnerability would be a nice pre-order bonus. :)

that would be interesting..i wish you could just throw your crap on your bed like in the elder scrolls games..instead of using a bank.

Nissen92
09-03-2008, 09:46 PM
we dont even know if there will be any preorder gear :o

Blodpls
09-03-2008, 09:49 PM
I don't like it when out of game activities allow you to acquire in game items, everything in the game should be acquired through playing it imo.

Gargols
09-03-2008, 09:50 PM
Well uhm

I would prefer something like a better Start Equip.
Then you won't start with just a crappy sword, clothes.
Or a Mount at start.

Nemesis X
09-03-2008, 09:51 PM
I don't like it when out of game activities allow you to acquire in game items, everything in the game should be acquired through playing it imo.

Totally agree

drebk
09-03-2008, 09:55 PM
since there are no 'levels' there won't be the same type of congestion in the nub starter areas, so it is unlikely that a 'head-start' program will help eleviate the congestion, so that's one less reason

sorros
09-03-2008, 10:24 PM
i want a RL t-shirt of DF.

Nattulf
09-04-2008, 02:01 AM
It'd be great if they added ingame items for preorder, i agree with blod that ingame items should be achieved. thus, i would achieve them off of your bleeding corpse

Ripper Darkoak
09-04-2008, 02:14 AM
How about 60 days of free play rather than the regular 30 as most mmo's do? Hell I would buy the CE just for 40 days free vs 30.

Ghostpaw
09-04-2008, 02:14 AM
Perhaps pre-ordering a collector's edition allows you to negotiate your own custom End User License Agreement?

Metal Wolf
09-04-2008, 02:17 AM
Black leather bomber jacket with the Mahirim symbol on the back :D

Akoni Leieki
09-04-2008, 02:47 AM
yall played too much guiild wars... why cant an in game item be like a bar trick ability or something why does it have to be something actually useful??

Youngdirty
09-04-2008, 05:18 AM
If their is a collector's edition it will probably have a shiny box... and... um... well... a map?

Redemption
09-04-2008, 06:48 AM
Hook me up with some Black Blessed Sandals for nostalgic reasons

Dronagok
09-04-2008, 08:28 AM
For preordering the CE game you get an action figure of Tasos in a thong.

How about 60 days of free play rather than the regular 30 as most mmo's do? Hell I would buy the CE just for 40 days free vs 30.

what if the ce edition was 15 dollars more than youd be paying for the extra month anyway.

branka
09-04-2008, 08:33 AM
invulnerability

this word is not in Darkfall i think

flaweD
09-04-2008, 08:39 AM
If Aventurine decides to release a collectors edition I'm pretty sure it won't include virtual items.

ermorden
09-04-2008, 08:41 AM
I'd take a collectors addition with an original piece from Henning ;)

Xelioth
09-04-2008, 08:44 AM
if there's going to be a preorder bonus item then it should just be fluff. pets like from WoW were a good idea. in darkfall I'd say something like a decoration for your house would work just fine. would be exclusive and make people feel special without being unfair to those who don't preorder. Conan's exp ring and mount nonsense was just plain cheap. just give us something pointless but neat that we can say "hey look what I've got!" about if we're going to get anything at all.

short of that then a figurine or something. no need to get fancy about this stuff.

Epicedium
09-04-2008, 08:44 AM
I don't like it when out of game activities allow you to acquire in game items, everything in the game should be acquired through playing it imo.

I agree with this.
Earn items not buy them.offering items that would give a player significant advantage over another would be unwise.May as well be selling gold off the official Darkfall site and have it hand delivered by GM's in game.Now something small for a Collectors edition. sure. Why not... You get a pretty mount or Glowy item type thing that will decay or be looted.. but no real advantage. In my opinion if you want them to give you some kind of huge in game advantage due to real life money you are truly poor.

:cool:

Sintalation
09-04-2008, 08:48 AM
I agree that maybe a ingame item for your house or town maybe. That you would not get otherwise. As for the winning items out of game, I myself think there are certain times this applies such as a winner to a post contest or something along that line.

Aleoth
09-04-2008, 08:49 AM
On a link posted on the first page, it said something about mounts being awarded from pre-order packs, now sure what thats about .

Feyrband
09-04-2008, 09:26 AM
was a thread about this previously and i think coolest suggestions were a cloth map or the darkfall dagger (plastic or otherwise)

yamisniper
09-04-2008, 11:40 AM
there isnt going to be any pre orders ><

Xelioth
09-04-2008, 01:04 PM
there isnt going to be any pre orders ><you can't not have preorders. you can not allow any to be made with your company directly but so long as you allow other companies to sell a product they are going to allow preorders.

if darkfall is download-only then maybe there won't be preorders but if it's sold in stores there are going to be preorders. nothing aventurine can do about that.

Indah
09-04-2008, 01:54 PM
Maybe some blessed clothing that does nothing but look nice.

sparfunk
09-04-2008, 02:21 PM
if they were going to add a CE 'ingame item' then if anything id like to see a piece of furniture/decoration... something like a rug for when you eventually get a house, that kinda thing... has no effect on the game other than looks cool... otherwise, yea im fully against the whole fancy items/mounts idea

edit: the addition of a cloth map to a CE, perhaps with an art book, would deffinatly make me buy it, id love it :)

zoddwraith
09-04-2008, 03:17 PM
or maybe they will only add somke useless but maybe cool non lootable stuff (something binded to the character soul and not body) lol

Dragula
09-04-2008, 03:45 PM
I would buy a CE, if for no other reason in honor of how long I've followed this damn game and suffered the ridicule of friends and guild mates. My wife will call me a loser, but hey I'm used to that.

LaytoRest
09-04-2008, 03:49 PM
I would like, like LotRO, where if you preordered you get to play for 10$ a month instead of 15$. And if you payed 100$ You played forever for free.

Soulcullers
09-04-2008, 04:02 PM
Darkfall preorders by the way aren't applicable.

That says it all. While pre-orders are from most companies perspective a good idea. Apparently that's not the thinking here. Will there be a collectors edition? I'd like to think so, but I can't see it happening. I'd like a huge silk map of the whole area to hang on my wall, but I ain't getting one.

Nemesis X
09-04-2008, 04:03 PM
That says it all. While pre-orders are from most companies perspective a good idea. Apparently that's not the thinking here. Will there be a collectors edition? I'd like to think so, but I can't see it happening. I'd like a huge silk map of the whole area to hang on my wall, but I ain't getting one.

Good to hear it, now i can sleep in peace =)

Uzik
09-04-2008, 05:22 PM
The devs have stated before that they are not interested in gimmicks.

I highly doubt they will be doing pre-order IG rewards.

Iblis
09-04-2008, 06:18 PM
The devs have stated before that they are not interested in gimmicks.

I highly doubt they will be doing pre-order IG rewards.

Good. They should leave these cheap tricks to brokes.

Darklune
09-04-2008, 08:52 PM
that would be interesting..i wish you could just throw your crap on your bed like in the elder scrolls games..instead of using a bank.

Hell, in Oblivion I just left my crap in the middle of the streets for the NPCs to kick around.

I support a pre-order/collectors edition that gives things like nice maps, t-shrits, hats, mouse pads, and all that crap. But in-game items are lame.

Just take a look at AoC for proof. You got a ring, a cape, a mammoth / rhino, and a 3 day head start.

Skilla
09-04-2008, 08:53 PM
No

StealYourFace
09-04-2008, 09:31 PM
it would be cool if with a pre-order you could upload your own design to put on all our clan buildings,boat and gear.Dont think they're a large enough company to give that kind of manpower to oking everyone submissions but it would be cool.

besides that i wouldnt have a pre-order orany benefits for that

GiantPeccan
09-04-2008, 09:54 PM
I support a pre-order/collectors edition that gives things like nice maps, t-shrits, hats, mouse pads, and all that crap. But in-game items are lame.


I don't think they are going to (or should) do a preorder because they keep saying how they want us to play it before we play it. As to a CE, I am all with you as long as it doesn't include in-game shit. It would totally go against everything they keep saying the want the game to be.

Insane
09-04-2008, 09:55 PM
It'd be great if they added ingame items for preorder, i agree with blod that ingame items should be achieved. thus, i would achieve them off of your bleeding corpse

Sounds fair to me. I am all for pre-order gear now :sly:

sorros
09-04-2008, 09:56 PM
what is the point. you said yourself that since it can be looted anyway, its not that important.

theraizen
09-04-2008, 10:14 PM
Well, they can add blessed dress.
Useless in pvp/pve and so on, but cool to dress in party or somethin' like that!

UO has this system, and "special" items were just a simbol :P No use, in game :D

Osprey22
09-04-2008, 10:15 PM
I just want the sandbox feel back. That is all.

Revyboy
09-04-2008, 10:22 PM
I don't think that there will be any collectors edition and I don't think they would give any ingame items of they had a collectors edition because of the full loot.

Xanderbeck
09-04-2008, 10:25 PM
If there's a special associated item with pre-orders or w/e CE thing that comes along... maybe some randomized or cooler looking starter gear would be nice. You know, just a different skin to your noobie gears (gears you are unlikely to ever use).

Anything beyond that would give an item edge, and that is not what Darkfall is about.

Retaliation
09-04-2008, 10:25 PM
If the CE has a picture of Tasos in a thong, I'll buy it

PSmurf
09-04-2008, 10:50 PM
How about 60 days of free play rather than the regular 30 as most mmo's do? Hell I would buy the CE just for 40 days free vs 30.

That would be pretty wicked....

since there are no 'levels' there won't be the same type of congestion in the nub starter areas, so it is unlikely that a 'head-start' program will help alleviate the congestion, so that's one less reason

There will still be a "nub starter area" because all your skills will be at 0.. so you have to build them up on weak mobs. There are no 'levels' but you will have 'skill levels' kinda like runescape

Qikdraw
09-04-2008, 11:26 PM
I like the idea of a cloth map and/or pin. I was sooo happy with my UO map and pin. I still have them somewhere in one of my boxes of computer games...

Yellowbeard
09-04-2008, 11:46 PM
I stole some shirts (well the gave me some) so I feel like I already have the CE edition. If they did come out with one I would get it, I still have my UO map on the wall :)

TheTrooper
09-05-2008, 12:37 AM
If there is a CE, I hope it includes a world map, a soundtrack, and maybe concept art. No ingame items, as half the other people have said.

Inferno
09-05-2008, 01:32 AM
I don't think that there will be a Pre-Order or CE bonus, because it wouldn't make any sense at all. I mean, why have special items if you could just kill someone and take the stuff that they paid extra for? It also wouldn't roll with Darkfall's style. :)

Zexoinger
09-05-2008, 02:18 AM
A CE would be nice, but what really could they offer? Maybe a map or something would be cool, but id never use it.

tasty
09-05-2008, 02:26 AM
alot of people like collector's editions for art or an item they can keep in a safe spot and bring out on rare occasions when there isnt a great risk of losing it. that or it could be "blessed" like uo "newbie" items.

Akoni Leieki
09-05-2008, 04:37 PM
im still infavor of a nice ingame bartrick... lol but def a map and artwork maybe even a mini DF dagger or coin(replicas not ingame)

Osprey22
09-05-2008, 05:21 PM
Maps and extras would be awesome, just no ingame gear.

Devant
09-05-2008, 11:21 PM
why has there to be any ingame items? how about some design arts? or a world map or something like that

A map of the world printed in linen. THAT's what I want. (Baldur's Gate CE anyone?)

H2liveshot
09-05-2008, 11:26 PM
We have waited years 4 this game... we beter get something....

Lightsteel
09-05-2008, 11:29 PM
We have waited years 4 this game... we beter get something....

hell yes..(ive only been following for a week) but hell yes!

Zagzyg
09-06-2008, 12:04 AM
There is a somewhat relevant quote from Tasos here (http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/3070-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-24-Full-Freedom-Gameplay-and-Substance.2).



We can probably safely assume that there will be no rhinos or mammoths for pre-orders

more appropriately from that same article:
Darkfall preorders by the way aren't applicable. Our hope for Darkfall is that you won't spend a cent on the game until you've tried it and decided you want to play it.

I think a nice idea for preorder would be character customisations. Like some special tattoo's or haircuts.

Zagzyg
09-06-2008, 12:08 AM
A map of the world printed in linen. THAT's what I want. (Baldur's Gate CE anyone?)

I had a linen UO map, though it was tiny and I printed my own... that ended up being wallpaper for one entire wall of my bedroom.

Lictor
09-06-2008, 12:39 PM
A map of the world printed in linen. THAT's what I want. (Baldur's Gate CE anyone?)

me too