View Full Version : Are RPers prepared for darkfall?
Drift0ner
08-19-2008, 10:35 PM
I'm a very pro-pvp person and I will probably be one of those guys in game that will attack you when i have the opportunity. It seems like the world of agon and the darkfall community is agressive and are looking to spill some blood and grief people in game. Now in other mmos RPers are usually calm and relaxed and tend to PvE mostly (or is that just a stereotype?) how will you handle the griefers that come to the RP server to wreak havoc?
Curcio
08-19-2008, 10:36 PM
Mmm... Have you ever heard of Shadowclan in UO? Or are they called Blood clan now?
They are RPers that gank and loot people and are very pvp intensive. Even speak their own orcish language.
But yeah. I don't think pve'ers will hvae too much trouble. They will just have to adapt to the situations when they repeatdely get ganked by griefers. But that's Darkfall!
Tamako_Luth
08-19-2008, 10:37 PM
i dont think it will be rp servers (ofcourse rp'ers but not special servers)
Jonkar
08-19-2008, 10:38 PM
I know me and my clan is completely ready for them. When we're roleplaying and some randoms come to grief us, we'll be prepared and enjoying the fight. The entire stereotype of RP'ers always talking while someone else is busy attacking is old.
Lorthral
08-19-2008, 10:50 PM
Mmm... Have you ever heard of Shadowclan in UO? Or are they called Blood clan now?
They are RPers that gank and loot people and are very pvp intensive. Even speak their own orcish language.
But yeah. I don't think pve'ers will hvae too much trouble. They will just have to adapt to the situations when they repeatdely get ganked by griefers. But that's Darkfall!
Shadowclan and Bloodclan are arch rivals. I believe Bloodclan is the super roleplaying and PvP clan, while Shadowclan is the poorer, weaker clan.
Deja vu
08-19-2008, 11:02 PM
Shadowclan and Bloodclan are arch rivals. I believe Bloodclan is the super roleplaying and PvP clan, while Shadowclan is the poorer, weaker clan.
I believe that the shadow clan is a sub clan of the Blood clan.
just checked it out, they are indeed different...
all though most older blood clan orcs are former shadow clan. Personally I am glad to see the Blood clan out growing the Shadow clan. The SC has some good orcs but there leaders have been around for ever and there really is no chance there to become a new leader.
IMHO Blood clan Orcs are The shadow clan done right!
Warhawkz
08-20-2008, 12:17 AM
OMFG STOP POSTED ABOUT BEING "READY" FOR DARKFALL! All of us here are ready for Darkfall.. Thats why we signed up on this forum. I know you just LOVE the attention of having a thread that a million people will post on but PLEASE stop making these kind of posts...
Taboollts
08-20-2008, 12:42 AM
I am not a rper. But i think most guilds that are have had there race picked out for ropleplaying for a few years now lol.
coreball
08-20-2008, 02:45 AM
The real question is this:
"Is Darkfall ready for RPers?"
Tenshaku
08-20-2008, 10:59 AM
I'm a very pro-pvp person and I will probably be one of those guys in game that will attack you when i have the opportunity. It seems like the world of agon and the darkfall community is agressive and are looking to spill some blood and grief people in game. Now in other mmos RPers are usually calm and relaxed and tend to PvE mostly (or is that just a stereotype?) how will you handle the griefers that come to the RP server to wreak havoc?
Stereotype. I only RP practical purposes (politics, businesses, alliances). I treat the game like a real world, because for all intensive purposes it is.
Both RPers and "Non"RPers are needed. I don't really see a line between the two. I won't go into detail but they are just different sides of the same coin.
And I'll kill you if it suits me, so that thing about all RP'ers being carebear pussies is a stereotype.
Honestly combat is not meant to be RP'd, only the circumstances surrounding combat, if any.
pyrow
08-20-2008, 11:02 AM
Just because people like to act like they're their character it doesnt mean they wont pvp... in fact I will be staying in character roleplaying as if I were my player and I intend to be a hardcore pvper... just because people say things like "Yes M'lord" and dont like acting like fools... doesnt mean they dont want to play the game... I guess thats a stereotype of RPer's though... that theyre carebears or whatever and only talk when they play games... pretty stupid one in my opinion.
Daarco
08-20-2008, 11:15 AM
How can you PvP without RP??
Even in CoD4 many tryes to be someone else while playing.
But i think i understand what the OP means.
The carebears that populate forums and whine about everything are PvEers. Those, we (RPers) dont want to be involved with.
They are all idotes and should die slowly beeing eaten by ants.
pyrow
08-20-2008, 11:16 AM
OMFG STOP POSTED ABOUT BEING "READY" FOR DARKFALL! All of us here are ready for Darkfall.. Thats why we signed up on this forum. I know you just LOVE the attention of having a thread that a million people will post on but PLEASE stop making these kind of posts...
+1
Tharkon Fargor
08-20-2008, 02:30 PM
Was my post removed or did my computer lagg?
Thardon
08-20-2008, 02:58 PM
Me and my friends are definitely ready for Darkfall. We've actually been waiting for a FFA PvP game for quite some time now ( AoC doesn't count,since it sucks ). And yeah, I'd say that the "Pve-lovingcarebear" RP'ers a stereotype, there are probably RP'ers like that but we're not all like that :p
Barbarossa
08-20-2008, 03:39 PM
Now in other mmos RPers are usually calm and relaxed
We aren't.
and tend to PvE mostly
We don't.
(or is that just a stereotype?)
Yes, it is.
how will you handle the griefers that come to the RP server to wreak havoc?
We've never had a problem dispatching griefers, PK's and other assorted dipshits.
The real question is this:
"Is Darkfall ready for RPers?"
That is the question indeed.
GrayGhost79
08-20-2008, 03:52 PM
I can't speak for all but when I had Celtic Guardians in UO we were a large rp guild that were built around the premise of hunting down any and all Murderers. We saw a red it was pvp time. RP was about the events around the pvp. Not durring the fight, there would be some occasional banter but in a fight I find it best to let your opponent run there mouth while you run them through. We eventualy had an alliance of red's form and set up a Castle near our castle and continuosly wage war. Was fun for a good while but eventualy we got outnumberd. 214 was my largest member base 300++ was the red alliance can't remember there name though lol.
Mr.LichTwitch
08-21-2008, 03:09 AM
I know me and my clan is completely ready for them. When we're roleplaying and some randoms come to grief us, we'll be prepared and enjoying the fight. The entire stereotype of RP'ers always talking while someone else is busy chop chopping is old.
Fixed.
Aragoni
08-21-2008, 05:00 AM
I'm a very pro-pvp person and I will probably be one of those guys in game that will attack you when i have the opportunity. It seems like the world of agon and the darkfall community is agressive and are looking to spill some blood and grief people in game. Now in other mmos RPers are usually calm and relaxed and tend to PvE mostly (or is that just a stereotype?) how will you handle the griefers that come to the RP server to wreak havoc?
I'm more of a Social person. I want to play Darkfall, not because of the PvP, but because of the different "social-features" such as allowing you to create your own house, tavern and such. And no grind. :)
I will hunt the griefers down.
Jonkar
08-21-2008, 07:35 AM
Fixed.
Oh thanks :D
RichieV
08-22-2008, 12:25 AM
Not all RPers aren't carebears. I for one RP and plan to be one of the best PvPers on the server :D
swiftbuster
08-29-2008, 11:29 AM
Well i myself have never roleplayed in a game but i would have to assume that anyone who does can pvp just fine while doing so.
Henide
08-30-2008, 02:08 AM
Darkfall is very free for people who want to pvp. I like PvP myself, but if i would be outside of a city, late at night, gathering some herbs for medicine, and would get attacked by bands of thieves, i would probably gasp something like: "ah thieves, help" and run to town :p
Sad thing would be if thieves wouldnt RP and just kill me saying: "lol nub". That kills the RP atmosphere.
Just an example. Its not about which side is ready to RP or ready for RPers...Its about players. And i really hope Darkfall will be RP full.
P.S. Good thing we have Aragoni, that will patrol the town sometimes : )
Grognak
08-30-2008, 02:48 AM
We aren't.
We don't.
Yes, it is.
We've never had a problem dispatching griefers, PK's and other assorted dipshits.
That is the question indeed.
QFT
Almost all of the Roleplayers that current exist in any form in MMOs are playing UO. Almost all RP in UO has almost always been PVP oriented.
The Bloodclan orcs (who are coming to this game) are essentially RPers who do nothing but PVP, both with other RPers and non-RPers.
Staying in character while you kill people who are calling you names because you roleplay is quite satisfying.
By the way, good to see that UP is here. I sailed with you guys on Catskills as Drax Deeppockets back in the day.
Merrin
08-30-2008, 04:06 AM
I've been ready for over four years.
no-one
08-30-2008, 04:13 AM
I'm sure they are. Thats stereotype may have been true at one time but, that was along time ago.
If anyone has spent any time in these forums they know how things can be and are prepared.
Sel'Karim
08-30-2008, 04:38 AM
There is no reason to think that being into roleplaying and pvp are mutually exclusive. The only reason why it ever appeared that roleplayers were not into pvp, is because if you're not into pvp then you most likely have little to do other than roleplay.
Squatch
08-30-2008, 04:43 AM
It is satisfying to know that you pissed someone off so badly just for RPing that they want to go after you. It brings more targets and that is always a good thing.
Dazarthas
08-30-2008, 04:57 AM
Your stereotypes are ill-founded, my friend. I was born ready to reduce the enemy to a puddle of sludge. I've got a taste for war that can't be quenched by our current slew of MMOs, and I fully intend to squeeze every bit of enjoyment out of this upcoming gaming gem.
Playzone
08-30-2008, 08:06 AM
PvP and RP are not opposites of each others. Simply two different attributes which one can like none, one or both off.
Many games aint suited for one or the other. Darkfall seems very suited for both. YAY! :)
Barabas
08-30-2008, 08:14 AM
Shadowclan and Bloodclan are arch rivals. I believe Bloodclan is the super roleplaying and PvP clan, while Shadowclan is the poorer, weaker clan.
Are you high ? Shadowclan (http://www.shadowclan.org/) beta tested early on in Shadowbane and have been around since U.O. They are hardcore pvp RP's
Orcs are all the same to us but we have never fought or encountered Bloodclan in any game to date. Are they a new guild ?
Eyrothath
08-30-2008, 11:42 AM
Mmm... Have you ever heard of Shadowclan in UO? Or are they called Blood clan now?
They are RPers that gank and loot people and are very pvp intensive. Even speak their own orcish language.
I am a Orc Roleplayer in UO on Pacifc, and know the language, it is mostly tolkeins black speech..
Mi Eyrothath agh mi bugd'n uuk urkz tu joinum ee klub agh gau klomp'n dummihed humiez agh panzi albais! HAAARGH!
That's orcish...
Eyrothath
08-30-2008, 11:43 AM
Are you high ? Shadowclan (http://www.shadowclan.org/) beta tested early on in Shadowbane and have been around since U.O. They are hardcore pvp RP's
Orcs are all the same to us but we have never fought or encountered Bloodclan in any game to date. Are they a new guild ?
The Shadowclan is currently based on a ultima online free server, and world of warcraft.... Mostly.. They no longer have guilds on EA servers..
Eyrothath
08-30-2008, 11:48 AM
PvP and RP are not opposites of each others. Simply two different attributes which one can like none, one or both off.
Many games aint suited for one or the other. Darkfall seems very suited for both. YAY! :)
I agree with this, UO has almost become a WoW clone over the years, and ever since AoS, RP has literally dried up, and is non-existant, it is very hard to interact as well, everyone ignores you. The same happens in WoW.. But let's take a look at classic UO, roleplaying all over the place, wh is this? Even if they roleplayed, they also PvPed, all roleplayers PvP, wether it be to build storylines, and cause conflicts, cause that is a big part of RP.. But what made so many people during the days of classic UO roleplay as today, noone roleplays?
Grognak
08-30-2008, 03:46 PM
Are you high ? Shadowclan (http://www.shadowclan.org/) beta tested early on in Shadowbane and have been around since U.O. They are hardcore pvp RP's
Orcs are all the same to us but we have never fought or encountered Bloodclan in any game to date. Are they a new guild ?
Wrong, we encountered eachother on Angel Island when Bloodclan briefly had a small branch there.
Shadowclan and Bloodclan are rivals, but in an OOC sense for a reason I don't understand. Ask your leaders why they hate us so much as we sure as hell can't figure it out.
Nirklars
08-30-2008, 05:51 PM
I'm prepared and looking forward to possible roleplaying opportunities.
Also see my post over here: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?p=1604256#post1604256
Looking forward to contracting alliances with you or ramming your head into my spiked shield.
Watch out because here comes a Wargash-smash!
freakomar
08-30-2008, 09:07 PM
Rp is for the weak RARRRRRR
seriously though, I'd personally kill an RP'er on sight no matter what.... Or even die trying, but I RP'ers
lockout19
08-30-2008, 11:34 PM
Sorry mate but I am a role player and hell yeah im ready ;)
Siria Cessmera
08-31-2008, 02:40 AM
The real question is, how do you properly role play without PvP?
"Curse you vile necromancer, may you die a thousand deaths!" ... What next? Do I shake my fist at him? Flash him the ol' stink-eye? Thanks, but rather than talking big, I'd prefer to just ram my blade through his trachea and nourish the soil with his blood.
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graysonh
09-03-2008, 12:02 PM
heh rp it's horrible on WoW the rp players get so much shit when ever the pvp servers go down i wounder if this will happen on darkfall
Vhadakhan
09-03-2008, 01:01 PM
In my experience FFA PVP is not fun without RP base. I think RP will be forced upon the raw PVPer at the bloody end of a sword.
Sanoppa
09-03-2008, 01:45 PM
I've been ready for over four years.
Same here. And i am definitly a RPer type.
Whisky Bob
09-03-2008, 03:40 PM
It will look like that anyway:
"Wait a second matey! Ye lad better be in yer mommas closet when i get me axe!"
"Lolololololololololololololol"
Iblis
09-04-2008, 11:02 AM
Roleplaying and pvp can be combinened. Most of the time I wouldn't even be able to enjoy one without the other.
Rugorim
09-06-2008, 10:21 PM
Are you high ? Shadowclan (http://www.shadowclan.org/) beta tested early on in Shadowbane and have been around since U.O. They are hardcore pvp RP's
Orcs are all the same to us but we have never fought or encountered Bloodclan in any game to date. Are they a new guild ?
heh this made me giggle a bit...
Hoowah Bluudskuhlz! Kruzh dim skuhlz hosh!
-Rug
smylie
09-07-2008, 12:24 AM
Been lurking here for...sheesh absolutely forever...and never found where I wanted my first post :D I know--most of you cannot fathom someone on forums for years without speaking out...but it happens :ninja:
Cheers for all who understand that RP and PvP are not mutually exclusive. I, for one, role-play because I want to live and experience in that world. And the threat of attack is more alive than anything. Am I great at PvP? Nope. But do I enjoy the thrill of danger around the corner from thinking, skilled players? Right on! It adds to the realism like nothing else can; it breathes life into the world. And throw in exacting vengence...:sly:
I enjoy acting, I enjoy gaming, I enjoy movies and reading to watch stories unfold--all that comes together in role-playing in MMORPGs. I have been waiting for DF a long while and am looking forward to seeing stories unfold there. And if it also involves lobbing off some of your heads...well all the better!! ;) I mean, if you deserve it of course :D Meanwhile I will be ducking and dodging any swings headed my way!
DogSoldier
09-07-2008, 11:08 AM
I for one have missed the concept I believe, I thought this was a mmorpg not a mmopvp game. I find it funny that the so called hardcore pvp players look down on rp'ers and then join a guild to become part of an online fantasy army either as a foot soldier or commander believing themselves to be above the average rp'ers lol, time to check yourselves troopers.... And if you don't want to be associated with rp'ers but want to kill kill kill then get some real bollox and join the army and not pretend to be hard on a pc game....
Dog
Outcast, victim and avenger.
leechi
09-07-2008, 11:19 AM
somehow i dont like it when people talk about roleplayers as they are some kinda weak nerds cant protect themselfes ingame. i got my ass kicked by RPers in many games and i hope darkfall will bring back the meaning of PVP abd RP.
i think most people only consider them roleplayers by cry around about stuff that interrupts their kinda singleplayer gameplay - or at least thats my impression on the majority of roleplayer ive learned to know past the years.
i never did roleplay myself that much - for me playing a game alot is enough to kinda put myself into it not necessarely have to give myself a complete new personality. still have my problems not saying "lol" or "have to take a shit" i guess it comes down to that im not a RP guy.
in short: PVP all day and then go back to town and RP sounds very mmorpg to me and fun for everyone.. doenst it?
Luna Rossa
09-08-2008, 09:56 PM
I am a former UO RPer, 6+ years there, and I roleplayed right up to the day they held my farewell party on Pacific. My current game sorely lacks in the RP area and I am truly missing it.
I am looking forward to and hoping that Darkfall meets and perhaps exceeds our expectations for both roleplaying and PvP. I believe that they compliment each other no matter which you prefer.
Although I am not a PvPer at heart, I have been known to stand my ground when need be.
Friend or foe, looking forward to the day we all take up arms (and the rest of the body parts that may fall), in Darkfall!
RickV
09-09-2008, 05:53 PM
The idea of being able to roleplay in an enviroment such as Darkfall really appeals to me.
Fayore
09-09-2008, 05:59 PM
I have been a very serious roleplayer in MMOs for the past 6 years and Darkfall looks to be VERY promising for my needs :)
Oh, before I forget... Stay tuned for information on a tight-knit, hardcore, Mirdain-only guild!
lance845
09-09-2008, 06:22 PM
I'm a very pro-pvp person and I will probably be one of those guys in game that will attack you when i have the opportunity. It seems like the world of agon and the darkfall community is agressive and are looking to spill some blood and grief people in game. Now in other mmos RPers are usually calm and relaxed and tend to PvE mostly (or is that just a stereotype?) how will you handle the griefers that come to the RP server to wreak havoc?
That is very much a wrong stereotype.
Roleplay is about conflict. You have a guy and hes got ideas and then you meet other people with other ideas that conflict with your own. Fantasy is wrought with war and blood. How boring is it to sit in an inn drink mead and agree with eachother?
People who SUCK at roleplaying are the boring pve types you mentioned. They give rp a bad name. But real RP cannot happen unless your on a pvp server. If my character would hit yours for any reason and he cant then i cannot roleplay him correctly. Open pvp is the only real rp. War agaisnt your enemies. Being the highway bandits. Being pirates. Its all about conflict. Even the knight in shining armor. How do you act as a defender of good and justice if there is no evil to battle?
Also if you are unfamiliar with it, ask any shadowbane vet about the mourning server. We had a nation of irekie (desert evils who were religiosu fanatics for a end of the world sized dragon and xenophobes) who made up their own language and patroled the sands killing everyone not irekie.
Squatch
09-09-2008, 06:40 PM
But real RP cannot happen unless your on a pvp server.
QFT
Beware anyone you meet in Darkfall that speaks strangely for they may have ideas that could be hazardous to your pixellated health.
Drunkenork
09-10-2008, 05:16 AM
I know me and my clan is completely ready for them. When we're roleplaying and some randoms come to grief us, we'll be prepared and enjoying the fight. The entire stereotype of RP'ers always talking while someone else is busy attacking is old.
Let's hope. From my last encounters with PVPs v Rps is that RP tends to complain about pvp all the time. It would be nice if everyone could enjoy it.
PrimalSign
09-10-2008, 07:17 AM
Let's hope. From my last encounters with PVPs v Rps is that RP tends to complain about pvp all the time. It would be nice if everyone could enjoy it.
PvP vs. RP?
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)KAI(Dante
09-10-2008, 09:11 AM
Role Playing is something you miss in most of the others MMORPGs. May it WoW, GuildWars or Lineage - in all these Games, ppl have no Sense in Role- Playing and talk about the *Real Life* the whole time, like school, problems, Party and Drinks. Man that sucks and destroys the feeling to be in another World. Hope Darkfallers will mostly do better ( talk about Skill and Fighting Tactics is better to hear someone talk about his grades at school ^^ )
RaelBloodomen
09-10-2008, 05:31 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing all the rpers working together [in a sense] to strengthen the whole of the game play in general. I am an old school rpers and i love pvp. However i think griefing people is ridiculous. Kill some one loot them and move on, its redundant to sit there and camp them or harass them.
I will be looking forward to the rp, and the intense fights. I just think we should start now and establish some boundaries,such as IF there are RP servers, perhaps we can make our rp world a better environment if all RP work together against people who only want to disrupt us or mock us. Now im not saying we should all be carebear and braid eac others hair. I just mean that what ever we are doing we drop it and focus on the common enemy, the enemy being that of the wellfare of RP. Ill be working fervently to construct my guild in dfo and i hope we can establish nations for the sake of rp, alliances policies skirmishes and war. Lets make this game unique.
Xeoroma
09-10-2008, 05:46 PM
As someone has said, everyone is already ready for it otherwise we wouldn't be here.
In the past I've not been a HUGE fan of PvP, but I'm hoping that's going to change if and when I play Darkfall.
BladyKillher
09-10-2008, 07:41 PM
There are different RP "styles" and degrees. RP doesn't mean only tea parties, pre-scripted plots/scenarios with actors and story telling.
My RP is playing as my character. Turning of browser and all the crap that's not game related, immersing myself into game and it's mechanic, staying alert(and that alertness is not just a interesting character trait/story) and it doesn't have to do anything with ye old english or any stereotype. I tend to stay away from that kind of people since my interest is not having conversations with drunken dwarfs or Lady rose's wandering kitten. My interest is in traveling, enjoying the scenery, fight, fighting tactics in wide open world, trying to survive in harsh environment.. etc and that all the things I do have some sense and practical ingame purpose. In my case roleplaying is addition to a game not a handicap and you won't see me attending mirdain wedding ceremonies at "unsafe" areas or ignore incoming city siege just because long planned dance event is now taking place. In my opinion it's retarded thing to do both playwise and RPwise but there was no penalties for that behavior and is heavily supported by MMOs.
RaelBloodomen
09-11-2008, 07:54 AM
I like what BLadykiller is saying. I know rp gets a bad wrap also from some rpers being,..well for lack of a better term "elitist" frankly. The whole "styles" thing gets blown way out of proportion. Now i am all for people being allowed to rp as they want and not imposing some one elses opinions on them as doctrine. However i do think it is just a TAD ridiculous to come to a place like darkfall and rp oh i dunno a super saiyen from DBZ or a wookie, or really any of a millions things that simply have NO place in a world like this.
I try to appeal to rpers to have the common sense to rp with your environment, as blady says. If it could exist in darkfall then its viable RP in my eyes. what makes great stories is the diviersity of ideas from a host of minds. Lets try not to think any one of us are better than others,and dictate how things should be. Lets just play collaberate and have fun.
Carbonlegend
09-11-2008, 12:14 PM
I shall prove the folly of any such act of wanton violence against rp folk across the body of said attacker.
konti
09-12-2008, 01:05 PM
if you adapt the rp to the behaviour of the non-rp'ers than thats no rp anymore. PVP with RP is something totally different than PVP without RP. Thats not compatible. We should not even talk about PVP here. Its not a conflict of players its a conflict of ingame charakters. The players just let their characters do whats coherent with the properties of the character and the environment of the character.
if you adapt the rp to the behaviour of the non-rp'ers than thats no rp anymore. PVP with RP is something totally different than PVP without RP. Thats not compatible. We should not even talk about PVP here. Its not a conflict of players its a conflict of ingame charakters. The players just let their characters do whats coherent with the properties of the character and the environment of the character.
I have never had any problem incorporating non-rp elements into my roleplay. I stay in character at all times in game, that doesn't mean I have any difficulties interacting with people who aren't roleplaying. In my opinion the two are not incompatible at all. Of course I adapt my rp to the non-rpers, just the same way as I adapt to anything else that's in the world.
Instead of taking Agon as being the world the gamesmakers built, take it as the world it is/will be. The l33tsp3ak phat loot PKers are just as much a part of that world as the hardcore roleplayers. Poor roleplay*, in my opinion, is to not take into account inconvenient elements.
* I am using 'poor roleplay' here with my tongue in my cheek. I believe there are people who are very good at roleplay (just like some people are very good at being on the stage) but I don't believe there is such a thing as 'poor' roleplay. It is what it is, when it is. At the end of the day, roleplaying is either a form of acting, or a form of pretending, depending how you approach it. As long as the person roleplaying is enjoying themselves, then it has served its purpose.
KruniacZio
09-13-2008, 09:20 PM
I'm a very pro-pvp person and I will probably be one of those guys in game that will attack you when i have the opportunity. It seems like the world of agon and the darkfall community is agressive and are looking to spill some blood and grief people in game. Now in other mmos RPers are usually calm and relaxed and tend to PvE mostly (or is that just a stereotype?) how will you handle the griefers that come to the RP server to wreak havoc?
That IS a stereotype when you consider that truely roleplaying a character involves more conflict than people usually imagine. Consider a medieval fantasy world, with racial hostilities, alliances broken and forged, and people who are generally armed to the teeth with something to lose, and you have a recipe for conflict.
I love roleplaying. I love it so much, I generally look down on those who dont. Now, in Ultima Online, you dont really have time to roleplay when PKing. There are some who attempt it, but I never bothered. In every other game I've played, I always roleplayed.
I'm a hardcore PvPer, I want to eat your stuff, but I want to do it in an in-character sort of way. Me orc. Me smash. Me take things. That good. :)
Actually, I really hope there will be a roleplaying server, if DF gets enough playerbase. AoC released rules for theirs, and if those rules are enforced (unlike the roleplaying rules of DAoC...), it will set a new benchmark for MMO roleplaying etiquette.
RaelBloodomen
09-13-2008, 09:33 PM
Oh if only SOMEONE would actually do something for the so called "rp servers" of todays mmos, other than simply tag them "rp". that would be great. I always thought that if DAoC hadnt gone down the tubes, if they would have made the rp servers actually enforced RP with also a [coop] feature where we could talk with the other realms an extremely useful tool in RP. Throw in some features from uo like guild warring and alliances and BAM, youd have the best game for rp. but no, thats to hard for these developers.
Baalinor
09-13-2008, 09:49 PM
I am not a good RPer nor a good PVPer, however, I try at both at times, and can get by. I started with PVE and was totally pissed when ppl cried because it was too hard and the Dev's made it easier, it is not suposed to be easy, that, IMHO takes the fun out of it. If you kill me, I will try and kill you back, however, I may not even find you again and proibably will forget your name and forget it ever happened, however, if I remember when I see you and you are in trouble, I will kill you, or if not in trouble I may just attack you for the fun of the fight. I have found PVP more fun than pve and can't play on a pve server anymore. Like I said, I am not the best PVPer, but I get by and get my kills in...
Can't wait for the bloodshed to begin, even if it is mine, it has to be shed.....
KruniacZio
09-13-2008, 10:14 PM
Oh if only SOMEONE would actually do something for the so called "rp servers" of todays mmos, other than simply tag them "rp". that would be great. I always thought that if DAoC hadnt gone down the tubes, if they would have made the rp servers actually enforced RP with also a [coop] feature where we could talk with the other realms an extremely useful tool in RP. Throw in some features from uo like guild warring and alliances and BAM, youd have the best game for rp. but no, thats to hard for these developers.
Well, like I said, AoC has rules set up for their roleplaying server. Its actually prohibited to use 'lol' and so forth in say, yell, etc. I was very happy, and I dont even play the game.
DAoC had something like that, but it simply wasnt enforced at all. Very annoying.
VoenkomVolk
09-14-2008, 12:12 AM
Since the early days of UO the group I've been with has been both hardcore Roleplay and PvP. RP without PvP is just talking with pretty pictures, and I'd rather do something better with my time.
-VV
RaelBloodomen
09-14-2008, 09:10 PM
Hm, that is pretty interesting. would be nice to not see "lol" every other responce. But i also agree, you must have pvp with rp. just social RP gets old fast.
eggman33
09-15-2008, 12:44 AM
i have not heard a lot of whats going to happen in darkfall pvp. but if its anything like RS im guessing its gonna be chaotic. from what i have heard you get go everywhere and anywhere whats stopping a gang of players coming after you???1!:bang:
Celian
09-19-2008, 04:13 PM
Its not that social rp gets boring. Its that conflict is always a part of any RP. PvP un that case is necessary - and, considering the flows of any usual rp game - free for all pvp.
Talime
09-27-2008, 07:05 PM
hm i´m playing wow since a few years and i experienced that the roleplayers on my rp realm are much better in pvp then the ones who whants to grief there ...
so i have no problem ... most of the time the roleplayers stand as one against those kind of players
but ok i have to say pvp in wow is not that hard as it was in UO because you can´t loot your opponent
Mosiah
09-28-2008, 08:04 AM
I don't beleive any of us are ready for anything Darkfall has to offer. It will be a baptism by fire for all of us. Get your dunce cap ready, cause your going to need them. I think having a little UO under your belt will help loads, but we are emerging into a strange new world. One thing is for curtain, it isn't Kansas, Dorothy. It will be wise to check every preconceived notions at the door, because no matter what you have read, no matter how much you played other games, no matter if stayed in a Holiday Inn last night, you will die at least a dozen times within the first week's worth or time. :ohno:
Guess what, even after you have been in the game that long... you will still ba a n00b! :eek:
I am saying this too one and all.
You may not like it but guess what. Even the people who are working out all the kinks have no idea how to play the game the way us players will master. Give it about two months of actual full on play for everyone and the dust will begin to settle. Then all the boasting can begin to have some true behind it.
vaier
09-28-2008, 03:25 PM
I played on a WOW rppvp server with my guild (blood knights :D) and we'd get alot of alliance grief in ghostlands, so one day I decided I had enough and got all online members, we went to tyr's hand (where those damn allies hid out) and kicked the shit out of them because we just wanted to rp, not get annoyed while we were purging deatholme of it's ebil.
Seriously though, the fact that people like to RP doesn't make them 'carebears' it's just that when they talk to other people about it people call them stupid names and make fun of them coz they're 'whining' when they're actually pretty low level and can't level up coz they keep dieing.
Anyway, I'm going to say [/rant] here, and that I believe that in Darkfall because everyone starts out equal, even people with uber-leet-ninja-shizzle-skills who hide in trees at the mirdain spawnpoint and kill them over and over, eventually one newb will get a fireball off and blow him to the dogs bollocks. Or they'll get their bigger brother on who plays the game 23/7 to jump out of the sky and kick the shit out of them.
Daehak
09-30-2008, 01:25 PM
Rpers aren't wussies hell, when me and my friend used to play RS (sad isn't it?) we hardcore RPed and spent most of our time in the wilderness
Caedryan
10-01-2008, 07:27 PM
Stereotype. I only RP practical purposes (politics, businesses, alliances). I treat the game like a real world, because for all intensive purposes it is.
Both RPers and "Non"RPers are needed. I don't really see a line between the two. I won't go into detail but they are just different sides of the same coin.
And I'll kill you if it suits me, so that thing about all RP'ers being carebear pussies is a stereotype.
Honestly combat is not meant to be RP'd, only the circumstances surrounding combat, if any.
Wisely spoken.
I do wonder, won't RP'ers have the advantage? We're generally older, more mature players, and where we tend to get distracted by the game, the non-RP'ers are the ones being distracted by their moms...
joke aside, I think any RP clan here is as much ready for it as anyone else. While some prefer to tell stupid jokes while travelling Agon, we immerse ourself in RP. When battle comes however, I think you'll see us a fit adversary as any.
Dude, Leet or RP speak, none hinders PvP more then another IMO.
Septus
10-19-2008, 12:38 AM
I know me and my clan is completely ready for them. When we're roleplaying and some randoms come to grief us, we'll be prepared and enjoying the fight. The entire stereotype of RP'ers always talking while someone else is busy attacking is old.
The stereotype isn't that they RP while being attacked. It's that you spend more time RP'ing than training as a group so when the time comes, you blow.
That's especially amusing for a merc clan :D
ARMAbest3
10-25-2008, 09:30 PM
I'm a very pro-pvp person and I will probably be one of those guys in game that will attack you when i have the opportunity. It seems like the world of agon and the darkfall community is agressive and are looking to spill some blood and grief people in game. Now in other mmos RPers are usually calm and relaxed and tend to PvE mostly (or is that just a stereotype?) how will you handle the griefers that come to the RP server to wreak havoc?
Thats RIGHT i played the "number 1 mmorpg" you know it and the feeling is exactly Drift0ner says, but the pvp on mmorpgs makes your heart beat faster and stronger , it is something unique:)
Panzero
10-25-2008, 10:46 PM
You can't play a game without Roleplaying really. In Darkfall for example, you are Roleplaying an Alfar who attacks and kills all other races on sight.
That's your role, you just played it. It's called an MMO-RP-G.
ejnomad07
10-26-2008, 12:23 AM
I am not ready at all...:ohno:
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