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Secret
08-18-2008, 05:21 PM
I saw this in someone's signature

Darkfall's single biggest mistake ever was to introduce the SCS system that completely abolishes the idea of player freedom & character building.

What is the SCS system and why does it abolish player freedom and chracter building?

Morthor
08-18-2008, 05:22 PM
It doesn't?

Firstly, SCS = single character per server.

Some people think that it removes your freedoms as a player by only letting you have one character at a time... which it doesn't at all.

The devs have said that people won't need more than one character because its impossible to 'gimp' your character. If youre an all-out melee character, it is posssible to drop those skills and move to the opposite end of the spectrum if you wished to do so.

Glue Gun
08-18-2008, 05:23 PM
SCS IMHO is a small draw back for DFO but ill still play it. I can just have multiple accounts if I feel 1 character is not enough.

alfaroverall
08-18-2008, 05:23 PM
SCS is the mechanic that one is only allowed to have one character per server. Please let us end this thread here as this has been discussed to death. If you simply search for SCS you will find hundreds of pages of discussion that basically addresses every single point that could possibly be imagined on SCS and the opposite that was formerly under consideration (SRS, or Single Race per Server).

Secret
08-18-2008, 05:25 PM
SCS is the mechanic that one is only allowed to have one character per server. Please let us end this thread here as this has been discussed to death. If you simply search for SCS you will find hundreds of pages of discussion that basically addresses every single point that could possibly be imagined on SCS and the opposite that was formerly under consideration (SRS, or Single Race per Server).

So? lets discuss it more here I wasnt around for the other discussions

Morthor
08-18-2008, 05:29 PM
So? lets discuss it more here I wasnt around for the other discussions

Wierd... the search isnt working for me. But hes right, your questions are all answered in the other threads.

Unahim
08-18-2008, 05:29 PM
SCS means you can only have one character on each server.

The advantages are plentiful, the disadvantages imaginary.
For example: in order for crafters to be of any use, and in order to make a really solid economy not everyone should be able to be autonomous. However, if you can make alts everybody and their dog just has a normal guy, and a crafter guy, since in DF having a lot of crafter skills will gimp your combat.

Also: it makes "spying" by just making an alt impossible, and makes sure you bear the consequences of your actions, etc...

Over the years SRS(single race server, but you can have more than one) advocates have though up half assed solutions to one or two disadvantages of SRS.
But why look for stupid limitations on our freedom when just being able to make one guy/server solves it all?

If you want alts, make it on another server, there.

Eskareon
08-18-2008, 05:32 PM
I saw this in someone's signature

Darkfall's single biggest mistake ever was to introduce the SCS system that completely abolishes the idea of player freedom & character building.

What is the SCS system and why does it abolish player freedom and chracter building?

It is another misconception by someone who thinks that their miscomprehension of Darkfall's features are substantiated.

Darkfall is about character freedom, not player freedom.

SCS does not limit character freedom. It also does not limit player freedom.

Players who dislike SCS are players who are selfish and want to be more powerful as a player instead of as a character.

Etc.

alfaroverall
08-18-2008, 05:33 PM
So? lets discuss it more here I wasnt around for the other discussions
No. Let's not and say we did. Here's the main SCS/SRS thread which has 2000+ posts:
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=26132

Deja vu
08-18-2008, 05:33 PM
SCS is a way to make you more responsible for your actions. If you get a bad name for your self you cant just play a different character for a while (unless you want to switch servers)

In the end if you really hate SCS you can all ways get a second account.

JrDavey15
08-18-2008, 05:34 PM
One of the reasons why they made it 1 char/server cuz they dont want ppl having alt spies in other clans feeding intel to their clan unless, you want to and become paranoid and kick everyone from your guild when the other clan knows your every move and the location of all your cities.

Sounds like "The Godfather" there lol because of the rats and all, it coulde fun at first then it'll be stoopid when you kick everyone out cuz u dont trust em lol

Ammon777
08-18-2008, 05:34 PM
Fuck you for bringing this up again.

Tiarilir
08-18-2008, 05:34 PM
Wierd... the search isnt working for me. But hes right, your questions are all answered in the other threads.

It's because the input is too short. I think it needs at least 5 letters, but I'm not 100% that's the correct amount.

shnedit
08-18-2008, 05:35 PM
Crafting is in right?

Morthor
08-18-2008, 05:35 PM
It's because the input is too short. I think it needs at least 5 letters, but I'm not 100% that's the correct amount.

Ah, thank you ;)

Crafting is in right?
I herd its out??!

shnedit
08-18-2008, 05:36 PM
4 DBC posts in a row , woo fuck on that!

Unahim
08-18-2008, 05:37 PM
Anyway, the dev's minds are set in stone now, so this might be the only feature that is completely pointless to discuss about, since the devs have first heard us, then decided, unlike with the other features.

Ultimo
08-18-2008, 05:38 PM
For the love of God, stop bringing up this topic. I think starting this debate up again should instigate an infraction.

shnedit
08-18-2008, 05:39 PM
For the love of God, stop bringing up this topic. I think starting this debate up again should instigate an infraction.

An infraction to the eyes with a buring poker.

Tongue
08-18-2008, 05:39 PM
brb going to search my posts regarding this topic and repost them

this is going to be awsume

paade
08-18-2008, 05:43 PM
I saw this in someone's signature

Darkfall's single biggest mistake ever was to introduce the SCS system that completely abolishes the idea of player freedom & character building.

What is the SCS system and why does it abolish player freedom and chracter building?

it doesnt abolish anything but broken economy. Who ever had that in his sig, is an idiot.

Rashgar
08-18-2008, 05:47 PM
To all the folks that are crying over a subject being brought up again.

FUCK OFF.

Dont post in the thread then.

You post count wanna be mod cocksuckers are what is wrong with these forums.


Have a nice day.

Henu989
08-18-2008, 05:47 PM
it doesnt abolish anything but broken economy. Who ever had that in his sig, is an idiot.

It's Darksoul_

GET HIM!!

Anyhow..
SCS v SRS = done to death.

shnedit
08-18-2008, 05:48 PM
To all the folks that are crying over a subject being brought up again.

FUCK OFF.

Dont post in the thread then.

You post count wanna be mod cocksuckers are what is wrong with these forums.


Have a nice day.

Sounds like fightin' talk there boy!

Morthor
08-18-2008, 05:49 PM
To all the folks that are crying over a subject being brought up again.

FUCK OFF.

Dont post in the thread then.

You post count wanna be mod cocksuckers are what is wrong with these forums.


Have a nice day.

If you read any of the posts in this thread you'd find that no-one has actually 'cried' about anything except you..

Ultimo
08-18-2008, 05:49 PM
An infraction to the eyes with a buring poker.

Now you're getting it!

Rashgar
08-18-2008, 05:51 PM
If you read any of the posts in this thread you'd find that no-one has actually 'cried' about anything except you..

Alfaroverall....just one example. Trying his best to be a MOD. but just ending up giving free blowjobs to the real mods.

Tongue
08-18-2008, 05:52 PM
To all the folks that are crying over a subject being brought up again.

FUCK OFF.

Dont post in the thread then.

You post count wanna be mod cocksuckers are what is wrong with these forums.


Have a nice day.

I always wondered what was wrong about these forums
now I know

coder1024
08-18-2008, 06:00 PM
SCS is the system whereby you have to pay for additional accounts if you want to play more than 1 toon on a given server. i.e. for each account you pay for you only get 1 char per server.

SCS does not say you can not play multiple toons on a server, nor does it say you should not play multiple toons on a server. Its just that, if you want to do so, you have to pay for extra accounts.

a couple uses for these might include 1) crafting bots which get shared among guild members and 2) people spying with alts. And I'm sure there are others.

Due to DFO's combat system I don't think you'll see a lot of multi-boxing with someone driving multiple toons at once. It just wouldn't be practical. But you probably will see other uses of this.

WestSideR
08-18-2008, 06:02 PM
I believe they make it one player per server for a good reason. I mean if you could make more players you would probably use them to Spy or Harass people. With only one player you can still play, any 'class' you want, but you cant really go around harassing people without consequences..

I think its necessary.

Indah
08-18-2008, 06:06 PM
shouldn't this filth be in GD?

edit: by GD I mean the trash, like 99.8% of the rest of the threads created here.

coder1024
08-18-2008, 06:18 PM
With only one player you can still play, any 'class' you want, but you cant really go around harassing people without consequences..
yea you can if you're willing to pay for more than 1 account.

Thoric
08-18-2008, 06:52 PM
SCS is one of the best things in Darkfall.

Darksoul_
08-18-2008, 07:03 PM
=)))

its quite funny how the majority of SCS advocates still do not understand the basic reasons why some people want SRS,nor do they understand that about every single reason they have for wanting SCS,can be integrated into an SRS system.
:bang:

alfaroverall
08-18-2008, 07:18 PM
Please stop Darksoul, this has been discussed to death. It's pretty well-established that not all of the merits of SCS can be emulated using restricted SRS even though some can, and it's also pretty well-established that even emulating those causes the establishment of bizarre and convoluted mechanics, which is the stuff of bad game design.

The converse is true for SCS as well.

Ocoma
08-18-2008, 07:19 PM
its quite funny how the majority of SRS advocates still do not understand the basic reasons why some people want SCS,nor do they understand that about every single reason they have for wanting SRS,can be integrated into an SCS system.


Interesting, it works both ways

Glue Gun
08-18-2008, 07:19 PM
=)))

its quite funny how the majority of SCS advocates still do not understand the basic reasons why some people want SRS,nor do they understand that about every single reason they have for wanting SCS,can be integrated into an SRS system.
:bang:

its quite funny how the majority of SRS advocates still do not understand that the devs want SCS and the debate is over.

Honorius
08-18-2008, 07:20 PM
Who necroed this thread?

Steelbadger
08-18-2008, 07:46 PM
=)))

its quite funny how the majority of SCS advocates still do not understand the basic reasons why some people want SRS,nor do they understand that about every single reason they have for wanting SCS,can be integrated into an SRS system.
:bang:

It increases player accountability. It reduces the protection of anonymity that nurtures all of the lolnoobs, wankers and idiots in the world.

That is reason enough.

BloodFletcher
08-18-2008, 08:07 PM
SCS is a big attraction to darkfall for me :)

coder1024
08-18-2008, 08:08 PM
well, despite all the heated arguments over SRS/SCS at the end of the day everyone gets their way. SRS fans can go open extra accounts and still play multiple toons and SCS fans can feel happy that people have to pay extra in order to do this, thus perhaps keeping a lot of people from doing it.

So, really, its a win-win, and everyone appears to get what they want.

Not that this will in any way actually curb the heated debates on this topic :)

Lethn
08-18-2008, 08:16 PM
Time for sleeeep.... *puts wing over head and falls asleep with a hoot*......

Ragnar Dragonfyre
08-18-2008, 08:23 PM
I'm getting rather tired of these +1 threads. Good thing post count doesn't affect your chances of getting into beta.

As a rule, the mods should start locking threads of this specific topic.

Hackapell
08-18-2008, 08:26 PM
As a rule, the mods should start locking threads of this specific topic.
I like the sound of this. Until some new information about the topic is released, please use the Search function if you have questions about SCS vs. SRS.