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Kyrandos
08-16-2008, 09:52 AM
Hello! If you are reading this message then I would like to extend to you - on behalf of all The Mercs, our congratulations. Against all odds you've come a long way and still that bilious shadow looming omnipotent over your shoulder - natural selection - has not taken you. Your birthing nurses projections be damned!

But we couldn't help but notice.. and you may wish you swap in an empty drool cup for this, we couldn't help but notice that you've been worshiping your Mercish lords all wrong. In fact, your plebian attemps to invoke The Glorious Mercish wrath time and again in these forums has only served to push us further away. Every time it's the same grouping of primates, faces glimmering with the sheen of fresh saliva and orgasmic release attempting to summon us in order to stimulate your minds, emotions, hopes and dreams.

Don't get me wrong. We too miss the days of the political forum, but how many of you mongoloids were even cognizant when your forefathers humped their 47 chromosomed asses against The Mercish Tower of Forum Power? Pah, I should say only a handful of you.

But the times have changed. Now days most any country has found a means to get it's societal dregs onto the internet. The Korean clone hordes have come like a plague of locusts, the Swedish - near insane (IRL)with the stress of this abberration called 'peace' flung itself like a squirming maggot into the limelight with its repeated lyrical raping of the acronym 'DOTA'. All around the world, insufferably annoying nations have found a means to crawl onto the internet like so much primordial waste.

And this wretched mass... we must call our subjects? But why? We, Mercs, are truly the stuff of Legends! There are no higher powers! Oh, how you beg for our words like anethema.. but to let you drink of it is much like giving water to a red-headed stepchild in its pit. It only serves to make the situation worse. We *should* let you suffocate on cake...

But maybe, perhaps, there are those among you.. antediluvians of the community no doubt lurking in the shadows. Ones who are not soaked in a perverse mess of unidentified blood, drool, and stool - that are capable of offensive action and word. If this is so, it is you who must give us, Your GODS, The Mercs - your worship. Come forth, and grovel before us.

Ocoma
08-16-2008, 10:11 AM
:lmao:

Apex Vertigo
08-16-2008, 10:16 AM
Just when I thought we'd hit rock bottom...

Rageon
08-16-2008, 10:50 AM
I'd rather worship the rotten noodle...

Suitepee
08-16-2008, 11:08 AM
Hooray the true kings of ego are back! :D

Rock bottom is not The Mercs. Rock bottom is when we get more uninspired crap like this: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=62063

Filling up Clan Discussion.

Atnas
08-16-2008, 02:48 PM
Hello there, nice to see you!

Honorius
08-16-2008, 02:51 PM
Ok, I cleanse you now.

Spart
08-16-2008, 03:17 PM
Oh Kyrandos, you certainly do spin an amazing story.

sorros
08-16-2008, 03:45 PM
im an atheist, you sure arent my god.

btw, if i kill you in-game, does that mean i get some big reward other than your gear? title or something?

Apex Vertigo
08-16-2008, 07:13 PM
Hooray the true kings of ego are back! :D

Rock bottom is not The Mercs. Rock bottom is when we get more uninspired crap like this: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=62063

Filling up Clan Discussion.

Honestly... I prefer uninspired troll post over over-inflated ego pumping rp post. This is just kind of pathetic on so many levels.

Warhawkz
08-16-2008, 07:23 PM
This post really makes me ask, What is the meaning of life?

Honorius
08-16-2008, 07:29 PM
Honestly... I prefer uninspired troll post over over-inflated ego pumping rp post. This is just kind of pathetic on so many levels.

You'll see, once them, QFT, B@D, Fisting the Umpire, and a few others all get here, it will be some scary ass shit.

Komako
08-16-2008, 08:38 PM
I miss the old Merc discussion thread.

Suitepee
08-16-2008, 09:38 PM
I miss the old Merc discussion thread.

Seconded. :(

Kietharr
08-16-2008, 09:39 PM
im an atheist, you sure arent my god.

btw, if i kill you in-game, does that mean i get some big reward other than your gear? title or something?

I wouldn't count on it. Kyrandos is the only person better than Telion at pvp. If you oppose him he will hunt you down, run you through, and then rape your impaled corpse with his 11 inch spiked dick. He will then hunt your family down and anally rape them to death.

Don't try to turtle in your city, for Kyrandos is an awesome, angry, and merciless god. He will jack off on your gate, his caustic ejaculate will burn through it and he will enter your town with his legion of archangels dubbed 'themercs', they will brutally rape every living thing, beast or man, within. They will rape any inanimate objects, they will rape your crops, they will rape your crafters, they will rape the very dirt your pathetic keep was planted on. Resistance is indeed futile, as Kyrandos is a grand deity with no equal.

Thorpeyrox
08-16-2008, 10:10 PM
No one can sway my faith from - The Jug of Milk!

Apex Vertigo
08-16-2008, 11:08 PM
You'll see, once them, QFT, B@D, Fisting the Umpire, and a few others all get here, it will be some scary ass shit.

How bad can an e-peen contest be?

Suitepee
08-17-2008, 01:13 AM
How bad can an e-peen contest be?

Eventually it's gonna be a case of who can walk the walk & talk the talk.

That will narrow down the e-peen contest a lot. :D

Jou
08-17-2008, 01:50 AM
Is this the same TM as from DSO? If so, do you guys still find other guilds to ride their coat tails and zerg it all the way? Pretty much the only way I remember them is by their nutcupping other guilds and being loudmouths on forums.

Lorthral
08-17-2008, 01:54 AM
Honestly... I prefer uninspired troll post over over-inflated ego pumping rp post. This is just kind of pathetic on so many levels.

I thought you were referring to yourself until you said "rp."

Spart
08-17-2008, 02:20 AM
Eventually it's gonna be a case of who can walk the walk & talk the talk.

That will narrow down the e-peen contest a lot. :D

This is an internet game. It will never come down to that. Ever. Even the skill less will still be claiming their victory on the forums while they get destroyed in game.

Suitepee
08-17-2008, 02:59 AM
This is an internet game. It will never come down to that. Ever. Even the skill less will still be claiming their victory on the forums while they get destroyed in game.

True,but their credibility will be diminished by simply saying 'whatd ya do in-game boys?' and then they foam at the mouth and exaggerate the Great Slaying Of The Chicken Giant Mob of Zhu'rarrar. :D

Consume
08-17-2008, 04:29 AM
come play aochivalry and show us your leetness. unless you can't stoop that low.

Nihilum
08-17-2008, 04:38 AM
Intelligent post, if not well received by the community. Good luck, no doubt we'll be putting your divinity to the test eventually.

Is this the same TM as from DSO? If so, do you guys still find other guilds to ride their coat tails and zerg it all the way? Pretty much the only way I remember them is by their nutcupping other guilds and being loudmouths on forums.

Unless I'm mistaken, working for larger clans is indeed what mercenaries do. Is this clan titled The Mercs just for fun?

-Nil

Kaorn
08-17-2008, 04:41 AM
R3PENT NO\/\/!!!!

God is here !

PrimalSign
08-17-2008, 04:44 AM
Unless I'm mistaken, working for larger clans is indeed what mercenaries do. Is this clan titled The Mercs just for fun?

Yes, they are titled The Mercs just for the name.

Helgeran
08-17-2008, 04:48 AM
Geek.

pyrow
08-17-2008, 04:56 AM
Good luck with your clan ^_^

Jou
08-17-2008, 05:09 AM
Intelligent post, if not well received by the community. Good luck, no doubt we'll be putting your divinity to the test eventually.



Unless I'm mistaken, working for larger clans is indeed what mercenaries do. Is this clan titled The Mercs just for fun?

-Nil

You possibly missed the other thread where they said they are not mercenaries. TM is just a weak clan that play voltron with other big mouth no talent scrubs. Even after they zerg up they don't do anything productive. They just roll over and die talk smack for a bit and fade into obscurity. Last I remember they were nutcupping Sinister.

Surly
08-17-2008, 05:19 AM
You possibly missed the other thread where they said they are not mercenaries. TM is just a weak clan that play voltron with other big mouth no talent scrubs. Even after they zerg up they don't do anything productive. They just roll over and die talk smack for a bit and fade into obscurity. Last I remember they were nutcupping Sinister.
I never really knew much about LotD, but after reading your guys' history on your site I think it's safe to say I like you people quite a bit!

It's a shame you don't like LoD, I like them too. You guys should bury the hatchet and let bygones be bygones, just so my outlook on the political scheme of MMO guilds doesn't have any rough points.

Nihilum
08-17-2008, 05:19 AM
You possibly missed the other thread where they said they are not mercenaries. TM is just a weak clan that play voltron with other big mouth no talent scrubs. Even after they zerg up they don't do anything productive. They just roll over and die talk smack for a bit and fade into obscurity. Last I remember they were nutcupping Sinister.

I see, I see. Well in any case, meatshields serve just as well as soldiers (and even better for our pvp scores).

-Nil

pyrow
08-17-2008, 05:47 AM
A disorderly mob is no more an army than a heap of building materials is a house
- Socrates

Jou
08-17-2008, 06:03 AM
I never really knew much about LotD, but after reading your guys' history on your site I think it's safe to say I like you people quite a bit!

It's a shame you don't like LoD, I like them too. You guys should bury the hatchet and let bygones be bygones, just so my outlook on the political scheme of MMO guilds doesn't have any rough points.

We've tried a few times, but it is just too much fun to stomp on their hopes and dreams. We are better as rivals than friends. Too much history and too much ego on both sides to bend to the will of the other.

Osium
08-17-2008, 08:53 AM
You possibly missed the other thread where they said they are not mercenaries. TM is just a weak clan that play voltron with other big mouth no talent scrubs. Even after they zerg up they don't do anything productive. They just roll over and die talk smack for a bit and fade into obscurity. Last I remember they were nutcupping Sinister.

LoTD talking about zerging? You realize we have about 15 members, the same 15 members since 1999. Meanwhile LoTD rolled into AoC with oh conservatively 200+ members and then proceeded to ally itself with half the server. You guys are big time! Maybe you guys can ally with LLTS next.

Osium
08-17-2008, 08:55 AM
I never really knew much about LotD, but after reading your guys' history on your site I think it's safe to say I like you people quite a bit!

It's a shame you don't like LoD, I like them too. You guys should bury the hatchet and let bygones be bygones, just so my outlook on the political scheme of MMO guilds doesn't have any rough points.

Their history page is pretty hilarious. Every year the establishment of that guild jumps up by at least a month.

The better story is how they lost their guild name to LoD.

Reikson
08-17-2008, 09:03 AM
A disorderly mob is no more an army than a heap of building materials is a house
- Socrates

please tell me you didnt take that directly from R:TW and you saw it somewhere else

Red Morgan
08-17-2008, 09:07 AM
We've tried a few times, but it is just too much fun to stomp on their hopes and dreams. We are better as rivals than friends. Too much history and too much ego on both sides to bend to the will of the other.

Apparently, the death lording field is pretty damn competitive.

Prox
08-17-2008, 09:49 AM
I likey BBQ zergling.

Jou
08-17-2008, 10:22 AM
LoTD talking about zerging? You realize we have about 15 members, the same 15 members since 1999. Meanwhile LoTD rolled into AoC with oh conservatively 200+ members and then proceeded to ally itself with half the server. You guys are big time! Maybe you guys can ally with LLTS next.

What else was there to do in AoC beside play politics and pick on one alliance at a time till they quit the game? Also, lol at conservatively 200+ members. :D

Kyrandos
08-17-2008, 10:39 PM
What else was there to do in AoC beside play politics and pick on one alliance at a time till they quit the game? Also, lol at conservatively 200+ members. :D



You can make excuses for being a zerg guild all you want, doesn't change the fact that you are - we are not.

People like you make me really wonder if someone hasn't figured out how to divide by zero.

PaleOne
08-17-2008, 11:12 PM
Sorry Ky,

I worship the fire dragon...

and the sad fact of the matter is 200 vs 15 = 15 very crispy corpses

It is the rule in war, if our forces are ten to the enemy's one, to surround him; if five to one, to attack him; if twice as numerous, to divide our army into two. If equally matched, we can offer battle; if slightly inferior in numbers, we can avoid the enemy; if quite unequal in every way, we can flee from him. Hence, though an obstinate fight may be made by a small force, in the end it must be captured by the larger force. [3:8-10

Which is why I was grouped in an LOTD raid on Keshata last night :)

Kyrandos
08-18-2008, 12:13 AM
Sorry Ky,

I worship the fire dragon...

and the sad fact of the matter is 200 vs 15 = 15 very crispy corpses



Which is why I was grouped in an LOTD raid on Keshata last night :)

So says the sheep without talent, skill, or testicular fortitude.

PaleOne
08-18-2008, 12:47 AM
There are many men with talent, skill, and testicular fortitude buried on battlefields throughout the world

I don't say so...Sun Tzu does :)

The ultimate goal is always large numbers skillfully employed, if you don't have numbers you'll either need allies or you won't amount to anything but the greatest trashtalker of forumfall award :)

In darkfall youll just be...insignifigant :)

PrimalSign
08-18-2008, 01:51 AM
Smilies are not periods. <-- that's a period

Now back to worshiping our awesome god Kyrandos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjpuMWQRXAM).

Lorthral
08-18-2008, 02:06 AM
testicular fortitude

That's from Family Guy.

GTFO

PrimalSign
08-18-2008, 02:23 AM
That's from Family Guy.

GTFO

Great Kyrandos used the same line... blasphemer! How dare you question The Mercs, who are perfect in all they do.

Seriously though, if you think those two words are unique to family guy you're pretty ignorant of the world.

Kyrandos
08-18-2008, 02:31 AM
Seriously though, if you think those two words are unique to family guy you're pretty ignorant of the world.

Please refer yourself to this morons post. There is a bastion of correctness located within.

VidarDf
08-18-2008, 02:49 AM
Please refer yourself to this morons post. There is a bastion of correctness located within.


lol

Kaorn
08-18-2008, 03:26 AM
Please refer yourself to this morons post. There is a bastion of correctness located within.

ur mums a bastion of corectness

Kyrandos
08-19-2008, 12:16 AM
Smilies are not periods. <-- that's a period

Now back to worshiping our awesome god Kyrandos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjpuMWQRXAM).

I said worship, not lick my asshole. Your actions displease me.

Furion Storm
08-19-2008, 12:50 AM
You know what ?

Blow me, bumrusher...

Osium
08-19-2008, 12:50 AM
That's from Family Guy.

GTFO

What are you, like 12?

Kyrandos
08-19-2008, 12:53 AM
You know what ?

Blow me, bumrusher...

Hey look, someone from Amsterdam propositioning an unspecified target for gay sex. Who saw that coming.

Nehemia
08-19-2008, 02:06 PM
Sorry Ky,

I worship the fire dragon...

and the sad fact of the matter is 200 vs 15 = 15 very crispy corpses


Quote:
It is the rule in war, if our forces are ten to the enemy's one, to surround him; if five to one, to attack him; if twice as numerous, to divide our army into two. If equally matched, we can offer battle; if slightly inferior in numbers, we can avoid the enemy; if quite unequal in every way, we can flee from him. Hence, though an obstinate fight may be made by a small force, in the end it must be captured by the larger force. [3:8-10

Which is why I was grouped in an LOTD raid on Keshata last night :)

That quote is so wrong.

Winter War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War)
Perfect Example.

Another perfect Example is The Battle of Porrassalmi, which is part of Russo-Swedish War. Which was Swe vs Russia numbered 1:10, and swedes kicked their asses with lack of ammunation, food and other eguipment, almost every fifth of the kills from sweden was made in melee, either with knives or melee weapon of somesort (clubs, twigs etcetra), sometimes also with bare fists.
Shame there isn't English translated article of it that is accurate. The battle was well, less than 100km from my home location (Yes, it was fought by fins, but well, during that war, such country called Finland did not exist.)

Its not matter of numbers, I tell you.

And why are you mocking the mercs? At least they do their boasting with style, instead of all you guys and your boring talk about how you killed someone five years ago in computer game.

PaleOne
08-19-2008, 04:41 PM
That quote is so wrong.

Winter War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War)
Perfect Example.

Another perfect Example is The Battle of Porrassalmi, which is part of Russo-Swedish War. Which was Swe vs Russia numbered 1:10, and swedes kicked their asses with lack of ammunation, food and other eguipment, almost every fifth of the kills from sweden was made in melee, either with knives or melee weapon of somesort (clubs, twigs etcetra), sometimes also with bare fists.
Shame there isn't English translated article of it that is accurate. The battle was well, less than 100km from my home location (Yes, it was fought by fins, but well, during that war, such country called Finland did not exist.)

Its not matter of numbers, I tell you.

And why are you mocking the mercs? At least they do their boasting with style, instead of all you guys and your boring talk about how you killed someone five years ago in computer game.

I do not doubt that in real life or even in a video game, other factors like supply, terrain, training, weather, technology can effect the outcome of a battle.

A Redemption group last night destroyed two groups in Keshatta in AoC because we trapped them in a canyon by sending our three melee's against them while our three casters stood on the canyon walls chain casting aoe's into them....and that was actually less than 5 years ago...

All other things being equal though , numbers will win, and anyone who cries "ZERG" has no knowledge of battle. The whole object of battle is to win and if you had any military training you would know that the first principle is MASS.

as Nathan Bedford Forrest Said" 'War means killing," he said, " and the way to kill is to get there first with the most men."

and I do not question the ability of Kyrandos to board warrior, at that one skill he excells !

Nehemia
08-19-2008, 05:17 PM
The whole object of battle is to win and if you had any military training you would know that the first principle is MASS.


Wait, so, you say you can't fight battles in order to archieve victory in the whole war, whereas you are doomed to lose certain battle? In addition, you should damn know the first principle is to minimize the casualties, when turned into video game, I'd say its survival. I thought you guys would know at least something. Of course, its possible that some countries don't actually care about their people and do everything to win the battle, even if it means sacrificing great number of men. When you consider that the first principle is mass, and remove the risk of casualties, thus not caring about casualties, I could call you a zerg.

And oh, the mercs mocking phrase was not meant to you.

PaleOne
08-19-2008, 09:55 PM
Wait, so, you say you can't fight battles in order to archieve victory in the whole war, whereas you are doomed to lose certain battle? In addition, you should damn know the first principle is to minimize the casualties, when turned into video game, I'd say its survival. I thought you guys would know at least something. Of course, its possible that some countries don't actually care about their people and do everything to win the battle, even if it means sacrificing great number of men. When you consider that the first principle is mass, and remove the risk of casualties, thus not caring about casualties, I could call you a zerg.

And oh, the mercs mocking phrase was not meant to you.

Actually what I'm saying is the best way to minimize casualties is too show up with more numbers than the enemy. Having more numbers maximizes the violence applies to enemy targets resulting in them dying faster and your soldiers are exposed to enemy fire for the shortest possible time. Overwhelming force is the best way to limit your own casulties.

Fro
08-19-2008, 09:59 PM
Hello! If you are reading this message then I would like to extend to you - on behalf of all The Mercs, our congratulations. Against all odds you've come a long way and still that bilious shadow looming omnipotent over your shoulder - natural selection - has not taken you. Your birthing nurses projections be damned!

But we couldn't help but notice.. and you may wish you swap in an empty drool cup for this, we couldn't help but notice that you've been worshiping your Mercish lords all wrong. In fact, your plebian attemps to invoke The Glorious Mercish wrath time and again in these forums has only served to push us further away. Every time it's the same grouping of primates, faces glimmering with the sheen of fresh saliva and orgasmic release attempting to summon us in order to stimulate your minds, emotions, hopes and dreams.

Don't get me wrong. We too miss the days of the political forum, but how many of you mongoloids were even cognizant when your forefathers humped their 47 chromosomed asses against The Mercish Tower of Forum Power? Pah, I should say only a handful of you.

But the times have changed. Now days most any country has found a means to get it's societal dregs onto the internet. The Korean clone hordes have come like a plague of locusts, the Swedish - near insane (IRL)with the stress of this abberration called 'peace' flung itself like a squirming maggot into the limelight with its repeated lyrical raping of the acronym 'DOTA'. All around the world, insufferably annoying nations have found a means to crawl onto the internet like so much primordial waste.

And this wretched mass... we must call our subjects? But why? We, Mercs, are truly the stuff of Legends! There are no higher powers! Oh, how you beg for our words like anethema.. but to let you drink of it is much like giving water to a red-headed stepchild in its pit. It only serves to make the situation worse. We *should* let you suffocate on cake...

But maybe, perhaps, there are those among you.. antediluvians of the community no doubt lurking in the shadows. Ones who are not soaked in a perverse mess of unidentified blood, drool, and stool - that are capable of offensive action and word. If this is so, it is you who must give us, Your GODS, The Mercs - your worship. Come forth, and grovel before us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OzWIFX8M-Y

Oh and you try way too hard.

Kyrandos
08-19-2008, 10:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OzWIFX8M-Y

Oh and you try way too hard.

That's pretty much the polar opposite of what your mother keeps telling you under the bedsheets every night, isn't it?



As for you guys arguing about strategic warfare... ugh. Numbers are more effective as a means of deterrant than as a war force. The necessity for massive conventional armies is pretty much a thing of the past though, and you'd know this if you paid even the slightest attention to world affairs ever since, oh I dunno, GW1. And no, 'massing' is not THE method, or even a top method taught to soldiers. In fact, it's pretty much universally downplayed in our training regimens, considering we TRAIN and are specialized to fight massed forces.

Unknewn
08-20-2008, 02:05 AM
You can make excuses for being a zerg guild all you want, doesn't change the fact that you are - we are not.

People like you make me really wonder if someone hasn't figured out how to divide by zero.

Can't handle a zerg? pathetic...

Kyrandos
08-20-2008, 02:18 AM
Can't handle a zerg? pathetic...

I see reading comprehension still isn't your strong point.

sorros
08-20-2008, 04:53 PM
I do not doubt that in real life or even in a video game, other factors like supply, terrain, training, weather, technology can effect the outcome of a battle.

A Redemption group last night destroyed two groups in Keshatta in AoC because we trapped them in a canyon by sending our three melee's against them while our three casters stood on the canyon walls chain casting aoe's into them....and that was actually less than 5 years ago...

All other things being equal though , numbers will win, and anyone who cries "ZERG" has no knowledge of battle. The whole object of battle is to win and if you had any military training you would know that the first principle is MASS.

as Nathan Bedford Forrest Said" 'War means killing," he said, " and the way to kill is to get there first with the most men."

and I do not question the ability of Kyrandos to board warrior, at that one skill he excells !

numbers and mass doesnt always win...plenty of examples in how numbers arent everything, and you just provided an example with the AoC canyon. Yes, if all factors are EXACTLY the same for both side (intelligence, player skill, etc), then yes, numbers will win, but that is quite rare for player skill to be the same, etc. Thermopylae is a classic example. Agincourt. Hell, almost all of the conquest of the Americas wasnt by numbers, but by the military and technological superiority of the Europeans. the natives sure outnumbered the europeans, but they didnt have guns, germs, and as advanced military strategies, etc.

Fro
08-20-2008, 04:56 PM
That's pretty much the polar opposite of what your mother keeps telling you under the bedsheets every night, isn't it?


Better but hardly origional. You still need alot of work but your getting better.

Surly
08-20-2008, 05:39 PM
Their history page is pretty hilarious. Every year the establishment of that guild jumps up by at least a month.

The better story is how they lost their guild name to LoD.Do tell!

Jou
08-21-2008, 01:13 AM
Do tell!

Well it isn't that funny. And it wasn't our Guild name but our abbreviation of LoD. In our first game you could only have 3 characters for an abbreviation of a name in DSO. LoD and LotD dueled for it and we lost it in UO. So instead that's when we became LotD, we just added the t in there that DSO didn't let us do. Considering that was their only notable win against us and it hasn't mattered since UO because games have not been limited to 3, it is rather silly to think it is some epic win of the century.

Thorpeyrox
08-21-2008, 01:17 AM
Wow that's quite epic.

Jou
08-21-2008, 01:51 AM
Wow that's quite epic.

Eh, we had the honor enough to recognize the challenge and keep to our deal. Later we allied with LoD and Warlocks to take over the entire Baja server.

If you want to hear an epic story maybe TM will tell you how they nutcup larger alliances in hopes to beat us but still get curbstomped in every game.

Unknewn
08-21-2008, 01:58 AM
lod and their zerging....

Aragoni
08-21-2008, 02:23 AM
I'm sorry but I've never even heard of "The Mercs" before.

Venoran
08-21-2008, 02:39 AM
I like cake.

Anyone else?

Osium
08-21-2008, 04:14 AM
Eh, we had the honor enough to recognize the challenge and keep to our deal. Later we allied with LoD and Warlocks to take over the entire Baja server.

If you want to hear an epic story maybe TM will tell you how they nutcup larger alliances in hopes to beat us but still get curbstomped in every game.

I was at the battle. I actually fought with LotD as Mobus and Mordru are two of my good friends. I was the last guy standing with a brand spanking new character and I was also the only person to kill anyone in the fight on our side. I halby wacked some fool after I unloaded some greater purps on him.

The best part is that LotD hasn't done anything in any game since UO. They were a third tier guild in DaoC at best. They hid on a blue server in AC after they got raped by TM in beta. The best part about that is that they had GM made characters, thanks to Mobus and Mordru who were contractors for Microsoft at the time working on the Zone end of Asherons Call.

It was even funnier when their characters were so jacked up that it became impossible to kill them and they FINALLY won a fight. Draining people for 5k HP at a time was lol? Hitting regular melee swings for 500 damage? Basically they had 25k+ hp with their GM made characters hit for 500 per melee swing and still it took them awhile to win that fight.

I'm not sure what games those scrubs have even played since then. What I do know is that LotD is now a zerg guild. This decision was made easily for them. Since LotD was unable to compete with the small elite guilds, having made no impact other than to get run the fuck over in every game they played they went the way of the zerg.

TM on the other hand hasn't been "allied" with anyone or anything since 2001 DaoC where we co-formed Angry Elves with Sinister.

Osium
08-21-2008, 04:16 AM
I'm sorry but I've never even heard of "The Mercs" before.

Thats because you're 12 and your entire mmo experience was furcadia and WoW. Now shut the fuck up and go back to where you belong.

Aragoni
08-21-2008, 04:50 AM
Thats because you're 12 and your entire mmo experience was furcadia and WoW. Now shut the fuck up and go back to where you belong.

With that language, you're the 12-year old.

Kyrandos
08-21-2008, 04:54 AM
With that language, you're the 12-year old.

Help me to understand... what led you to think that saying "You're young because you swore on darkfall forums" would do anything but expose your proverbial ass to the wind?

Aragoni
08-21-2008, 04:56 AM
Help me to understand... what led you to think that saying "You're young because you swore on darkfall forums" would do anything but expose your proverbial ass to the wind?

Oh... Another "The Mercs". Interesting. :lmao:

Jou
08-21-2008, 05:17 AM
The best part is that LotD hasn't done anything in any game since UO.

We have screenshots showing what we have accomplished. #1 in Fury, Top 5 in CoX, Top 10 in GW, Top 5 on AoC as well as a hold list of other things we have done since UO.

Here some things for you to look upon as proof. Where's yours? http://www.lotd.org/38.html

Kaorn
08-21-2008, 05:49 AM
Seem like all this time spend conquering other games just to have people flat out deny it and having to having to wave your e-peen all over the place could have been spent doing other things.

More productive things.

Kyrandos
08-21-2008, 06:44 AM
Seem like all this time spend conquering other games just to have people flat out deny it and having to having to wave your e-peen all over the place could have been spent doing other things.

More productive things.

Because god knows, 2 minute posts on a forum for a game I look forward to is such an investment from my life...

Kaorn
08-21-2008, 06:45 AM
Because god knows, 2 minute posts on a forum for a game I look forward to is such an investment from my life...

Yes, spending two minutes is good, then you have plenty of time for not forums.

Oreian
08-21-2008, 01:14 PM
I like cake.

Anyone else?


Me. :D

Fro
08-21-2008, 02:06 PM
I realy couldn't care what any guild has achieved in other games.

Shads
08-21-2008, 10:30 PM
This thread had awesome potential. Mercs, Unknewb, guys, come back please!

Lord Caim
08-22-2008, 05:15 AM
What does one feel when they worship TheMercs? Because reading Kyrandos' post just made my nipples hurt.

Shads
08-22-2008, 08:51 AM
What does one feel when they worship TheMercs? Because reading Kyrandos' post just made my nipples hurt.

From my observations of affected individuals, I'd say it's more like a prodding with an electric baton in the anus. Then ofc it might just be intense excitement.

Kyrendis
08-22-2008, 07:01 PM
Bastard stole my name!

Kyrandos
08-23-2008, 10:39 PM
Bastard stole my name!

Mine dates back to Yserbius. You?

Exidium
08-24-2008, 10:16 AM
I am entertained.

I am glad the Mercs will be in DF.

Now if we can only get Og.

Tewdric
08-24-2008, 01:18 PM
Bastard stole my name!

Yours is clearly the more feminine

Dogorox
08-27-2008, 05:18 AM
You TM jokers need to get off your dead asses and fire up the war machines, or resign yourselves to being non-factors.

Modern mainstream mmo's require larger than ever groups to be competetive in much of their high level content. That means guilds are bigger than ever.That means recruiting, activity planning, maintaining a website, forums, Vent server, etc to be considered a top guild.

All the stuff that many old school guilds of 15-20 longtime guildmates don't want to fuck with anymore.

LotD looks like an active, evolving guild going strong. TM looks like some old guys that don't do much but board warrior any more fading away.

katahlyn
08-27-2008, 07:18 AM
Hello! If you are reading this message then I would like to extend to you - on behalf of all The Mercs, our congratulations. Against all odds you've come a long way and still that bilious shadow looming omnipotent over your shoulder - natural selection - has not taken you. Your birthing nurses projections be damned!

But we couldn't help but notice.. and you may wish you swap in an empty drool cup for this, we couldn't help but notice that you've been worshiping your Mercish lords all wrong. In fact, your plebian attemps to invoke The Glorious Mercish wrath time and again in these forums has only served to push us further away. Every time it's the same grouping of primates, faces glimmering with the sheen of fresh saliva and orgasmic release attempting to summon us in order to stimulate your minds, emotions, hopes and dreams.

Don't get me wrong. We too miss the days of the political forum, but how many of you mongoloids were even cognizant when your forefathers humped their 47 chromosomed asses against The Mercish Tower of Forum Power? Pah, I should say only a handful of you.

But the times have changed. Now days most any country has found a means to get it's societal dregs onto the internet. The Korean clone hordes have come like a plague of locusts, the Swedish - near insane (IRL)with the stress of this abberration called 'peace' flung itself like a squirming maggot into the limelight with its repeated lyrical raping of the acronym 'DOTA'. All around the world, insufferably annoying nations have found a means to crawl onto the internet like so much primordial waste.

And this wretched mass... we must call our subjects? But why? We, Mercs, are truly the stuff of Legends! There are no higher powers! Oh, how you beg for our words like anethema.. but to let you drink of it is much like giving water to a red-headed stepchild in its pit. It only serves to make the situation worse. We *should* let you suffocate on cake...

But maybe, perhaps, there are those among you.. antediluvians of the community no doubt lurking in the shadows. Ones who are not soaked in a perverse mess of unidentified blood, drool, and stool - that are capable of offensive action and word. If this is so, it is you who must give us, Your GODS, The Mercs - your worship. Come forth, and grovel before us.
WTF? :confused:

Kyrandos
08-27-2008, 11:09 PM
You TM jokers need to get off your dead asses and fire up the war machines, or resign yourselves to being non-factors.

Modern mainstream mmo's require larger than ever groups to be competetive in much of their high level content. That means guilds are bigger than ever.That means recruiting, activity planning, maintaining a website, forums, Vent server, etc to be considered a top guild.

All the stuff that many old school guilds of 15-20 longtime guildmates don't want to fuck with anymore.

LotD looks like an active, evolving guild going strong. TM looks like some old guys that don't do much but board warrior any more fading away.

Except we constantly make appearances in most new MMO's, wipe the floor with people till we get bored, and then go back to doing our thing. Suffice it to say - you are an idiot and have no idea what makes a guild good. Your defense of zerging and erroneous claims further reveal your acute retardation. You are unfit to worship - move along.

Dogorox
08-28-2008, 03:55 AM
Except we constantly make appearances in most new MMO's, wipe the floor with people till we get bored, and then go back to doing our thing. Suffice it to say - you are an idiot and have no idea what makes a guild good. Your defense of zerging and erroneous claims further reveal your acute retardation. You are unfit to worship - move along.

Looks like I hit a little too close to home eh? Sorry if that made your ass hurt.

Jou
08-28-2008, 02:51 PM
Except we constantly make appearances in most new MMO's, wipe the floor with people till we get bored, and then go back to doing our thing.

Orly? What games? Haven't seen you in anything recently. Care to post some SS of your "wiping the floor."

Hades-LotD
11-23-2008, 07:06 AM
Orly? What games? Haven't seen you in anything recently. Care to post some SS of your "wiping the floor."

Osium tried to make an appearance in AOC and he lasted all of 2 or 3 weeks, then went back to the WoW forums crying about how bad AOC was. In reality, Osium and his band of retards couldn't hang in the middle of a server war between LotD, Sinister, and others.

The Mercs haven't been a relevant force as a stand alone guild since 2,400 bps dial up was all the rage.

Azrael Numidia
11-23-2008, 09:47 AM
Except we constantly make appearances in most new MMO's, wipe the floor with people till we get bored, and then go back to doing our thing. Suffice it to say - you are an idiot and have no idea what makes a guild good. Your defense of zerging and erroneous claims further reveal your acute retardation. You are unfit to worship - move along.
I look forward to seeing you in game, if your skills with a sword are equal to you elitist rambling then you will be a worthy foe, but as always, i remain neutral in these discussions, because of my mercenary status xD
Good luck to you and your clan

Exidium
11-23-2008, 10:16 AM
Osium tried to make an appearance in AOC and he lasted all of 2 or 3 weeks, then went back to the WoW forums crying about how bad AOC was. In reality, Osium and his band of retards couldn't hang in the middle of a server war between LotD, Sinister, and others.

The Mercs haven't been a relevant force as a stand alone guild since 2,400 bps dial up was all the rage.

Nice necro. Retard..

Kyrandos
12-06-2008, 02:14 PM
I look forward to seeing you in game, if your skills with a sword are equal to you elitist rambling then you will be a worthy foe, but as always, i remain neutral in these discussions, because of my mercenary status xD
Good luck to you and your clan

Mercenaries are a pipe dream. You're nothing but fodder either dependent on open palms or ingrained in a cause, either way, a video game mercenary is just someone playing at a slower speed.

Osium
12-06-2008, 11:36 PM
Osium tried to make an appearance in AOC and he lasted all of 2 or 3 weeks, then went back to the WoW forums crying about how bad AOC was. In reality, Osium and his band of retards couldn't hang in the middle of a server war between LotD, Sinister, and others.

The Mercs haven't been a relevant force as a stand alone guild since 2,400 bps dial up was all the rage.

This is funny.

Let me explain to everyone what exactly went down in Age of Conan. The game was fucking broken. TM actually was among the first people into Kheshatta Hades, I'm sorry it took you 3 weeks to get there even with all the fucking XP exploits that allowed worthless guilds like yours and DDH to power level scrubs from level 10 to 60 in an evening.

A server war? Really? You mean a res zerg clusterfuck in Khesh? Half a dozen of us played, after the initial push and the realization that AoC was a TERRIBLE game you actually became a factor with your zerg tactics.

For the record I had exactly TWO group fights with LOTD in AoC. They both happened on the same night. TM (and I use the term loosely since only about 4 of us bothered to play that game) with a group of one 78 a 77 and a bunch of level 50-60's apprenticed up rolled up on a FULL group of LOTD's ranging from level 75 to 80. We fucking trashed them flawlessly. We didn't lose a single person.

So we hunker down into the spawn to take it over and 45 minutes later we hear they are back. So we mosey on over to deliver another brutal skull fucking. Everything seems peachy until each and everyone of us hard locks up for 10 seconds or so. When I unfreeze I am dead and surrounded by no less than 30 LOTD. I couldn't help but laugh.

Hades your guild is full of terrible players. I'll make you a wager right now. You don't have 1 person in your entire guild that will be able to 1v1 any of my top 6 guys. We can set it up. loser leaves whatever server we are on.

Just to give you a way out, those guys are all world class FPS gamers. So there is no shame in admitting you've just mass recruited anything that moved to make yourself look BIG AND SCARY.

I didn't go to WoW, I went to War.

It's funny that you mention that because according to the Warheap.

http://warheap.com/guilds/view/225/69/

http://warheap.com/guilds/view/213/3/

Nice renown per member there allstar. Our last week of activity was Oct 15 by the way!

Agge
12-06-2008, 11:38 PM
Bork on my fork oh gloving once.

I_Zodiac_I
12-06-2008, 11:40 PM
..... Ok?




`Zodiac.

GAMEINFORMER
12-07-2008, 12:00 AM
:lmao:

Me also :lmao:

GAMEINFORMER
12-07-2008, 12:04 AM
This is funny.

Let me explain to everyone what exactly went down in Age of Conan. The game was fucking broken. TM actually was among the first people into Kheshatta Hades, I'm sorry it took you 3 weeks to get there even with all the fucking XP exploits that allowed worthless guilds like yours and DDH to power level scrubs from level 10 to 60 in an evening.

A server war? Really? You mean a res zerg clusterfuck in Khesh? Half a dozen of us played, after the initial push and the realization that AoC was a TERRIBLE game you actually became a factor with your zerg tactics.

For the record I had exactly TWO group fights with LOTD in AoC. They both happened on the same night. TM (and I use the term loosely since only about 4 of us bothered to play that game) with a group of one 78 a 77 and a bunch of level 50-60's apprenticed up rolled up on a FULL group of LOTD's ranging from level 75 to 80. We fucking trashed them flawlessly. We didn't lose a single person.

So we hunker down into the spawn to take it over and 45 minutes later we hear they are back. So we mosey on over to deliver another brutal skull fucking. Everything seems peachy until each and everyone of us hard locks up for 10 seconds or so. When I unfreeze I am dead and surrounded by no less than 30 LOTD. I couldn't help but laugh.

Hades your guild is full of terrible players. I'll make you a wager right now. You don't have 1 person in your entire guild that will be able to 1v1 any of my top 6 guys. We can set it up. loser leaves whatever server we are on.

Just to give you a way out, those guys are all world class FPS gamers. So there is no shame in admitting you've just mass recruited anything that moved to make yourself look BIG AND SCARY.

I didn't go to WoW, I went to War.

It's funny that you mention that because according to the Warheap.

http://warheap.com/guilds/view/225/69/

http://warheap.com/guilds/view/213/3/

Nice renown per member there allstar. Our last week of activity was Oct 15 by the way!

I have played alot of online game and I have never heard of your stupid guild and im sure many have not either. Great PvP guilds make names for themselves by doing PvP. You dont make a great name for your guild by going to a forum and crying like a little girl who skinned her knee.

Nice job showing the DF community what a girl you are..... :lmao:

Osium
12-07-2008, 08:48 AM
I have played alot of online game and I have never heard of your stupid guild and im sure many have not either. Great PvP guilds make names for themselves by doing PvP. You dont make a great name for your guild by going to a forum and crying like a little girl who skinned her knee.

Nice job showing the DF community what a girl you are..... :lmao:

I actually care what 16 year old kiddies who played WoW think.

Come back when you are a factor.

GAMEINFORMER
12-07-2008, 10:38 AM
I actually care what 16 year old kiddies who played WoW think.

Come back when you are a factor.

You do care.... thats why you replied.

I bet if I look your guild up I will find out that you guys play wow or have played it.

Please post more QQ!

Factor, what the heck did you achieve? The only thing I see is you and your guildmates QQing on the forums like 10 year old girls.

Wuss :lmao:

Sunabozu
12-07-2008, 11:10 AM
I'm more into the invisible space gods, get back to me when you're invisible and in space.

P.S. wtf factor non factor, quit making up words to describe noobs they don't deserve it!

Even
12-07-2008, 11:10 AM
Sorry if I disturb this awesome discussion... but, who the hell are you TheMerc guys? Never heard of you. Which games were you in? I heard AoC now, but nothin more than that.... Please enlighten me.

Agge
12-07-2008, 11:27 AM
Sorry if I disturb this awesome discussion... but, who the hell are you TheMerc guys? Never heard of you. Which games were you in? I heard AoC now, but nothin more than that.... Please enlighten me.

Oh no you didn't!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2411273690_7db48ffe99.jpg?v=0

Even
12-07-2008, 12:03 PM
Oh no you didn't!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2411273690_7db48ffe99.jpg?v=0

Yes I did.

TheVillageIdiot
12-07-2008, 12:38 PM
The last game I've seen anything from TM from is DAoC merlin. Angry Elves anyone?

(AE was yet another merge with Sinister)


And Hades was right. I think I saw about 4 mercs under something like "pink pirates" tag. This was long after the large guilds had been warring it out in Kashetta for quite some time.

TM always have a presence....but only on the forums.

Kyrandos
12-07-2008, 02:06 PM
Hey look, nobodies who havnt heard of The Mercs!

::flails::

Even
12-07-2008, 02:12 PM
Yeah, I haven't heard from these "gods". Enlighten me, so I can b e a true follower of the divine arts. Or

Starlance
12-07-2008, 02:13 PM
Who cares, really? (referring to TM)

Even
12-07-2008, 02:14 PM
Well, you could put it that way too. Perhaps AoC and DaoC on a non-ffa server are the only games they played, then... lol

Helgeran
12-07-2008, 02:18 PM
Good post.

Fro
12-07-2008, 02:21 PM
Hey look, nobodies who havnt heard of The Mercs!

::flails::

Maybe they haven't heard of you because despite your massive epeens and supposed incredible skill, you never accomplish anything memorable.

Well, you could put it that way too. Perhaps AoC and DaoC on a non-ffa server are the only games they played, then... lol No they've played many many games, just never accomplished anything.

Even
12-07-2008, 03:53 PM
No they've played many many games, just never accomplished anything.

Oh, I see. Thank you.

Kyrandos
12-07-2008, 04:31 PM
Maybe they haven't heard of you because despite your massive epeens and supposed incredible skill, you never accomplish anything memorable.

No they've played many many games, just never accomplished anything.

How many times has your guild been mentioned by the designers of this game? (http://vault.ign.com/View.php?view=GameList.Detail&id=52)

How many corporatized omega *** guilds have a section of their website dedicated to your guild? (The Syndicate) http://www.llts.org/History.php?p=11Merc

How many of your guild members have been members of a top professional gaming team such as fatal1ty? (zen)

How many guilds used to frequent your guilds forums more than the MMO they were all playing in order to shit-talk the other clans? (TM message boards during the UO and AC era *WERE* the forum community for those MMO's.)


TM formed in Yserbius, ruled Dark Sun Online with such an iron fist that any and all Mercs in the game were permanently banned. We were the clan to beat on Atlantic in UO, able to roll anywhere at any time, and locking down entire areas of the game regularly, with little challenge.

Acherons call was an indisputed ass-raping administered by guess who - The Mercs on Darktide. Daoc? More assraping in the form of Angry Elves (a coop) and later some activity from a venture group of Mercs in the form of Rainbow Ninjas.

Knight Online was a complete and total lockdown, games involving TM were effectively broken - when we were PVPing - you were /towning and logging out.

WOW was another domination, though we take no pride in it.

We've been around in a multitude of other games, from Shadowbane (Rolling 30's on scorn) to AOC. In every one, we lead. We slaughter, we lose interest and leave. After we've left, everyone else claims !longetivity win! then quits a month later.


It's been the same old story for the past 15 years of this clans history. We don't do shit mediocre. We win, and we win hard. We win until we can't stand the taste of it anymore, and then we leave the quivering masses to their sloppy seconds.

Hopefully darkfall will have something in it to keep us playing. If it delivers on its promises, like the rest of the community, this should be the game we've all been waiting over a decade for.


TLDR?

If you want to accuse us of being a short-termer guild from WOW, you better have participated in the PVP climate the developers of this very fucking game did - the UO pre-rennaissance era. Otherwise, shut the fuck up, sit the fuck down, and get your anal lube handy - because we do NOT fuck around with foreplay.

Edit - for the record, The Mercs also killed the darkfall clan politics forum with the "The Mercs have won darkfall" thread.

Even
12-07-2008, 04:37 PM
First off, I didn't see the name The Mercs in the dev thingie. And, bug users. way to go. Sure, you may have some skill, but skill doesn't come from bug using, does it?

Kyrandos
12-07-2008, 04:48 PM
First off, I didn't see the name The Mercs in the dev thingie. And, bug users. way to go. Sure, you may have some skill, but skill doesn't come from bug using, does it?

Because you obviously didn't read it, and no, skill does not come from bug using.

Even
12-07-2008, 06:01 PM
I did read it. Perhaps I am not enlightened enough to notice it... and good job posting something where guys say you buguse. lol.

Edit: Oh, found it. He's just saying some random clans.

Fro
12-07-2008, 06:29 PM
WoT.

Well atleast trolling you is fun. Half your guilds "achievements are pretty pathetic and the rest is just factless epeen wagging which most guilds do all the time. For the record i never accused you of being some short term WoW guild infact i said the oposite and i dont even have a guild at the moment.

Kyrandos
12-07-2008, 06:31 PM
Well atleast trolling you is fun. Half your guilds "achievements are pretty pathetic and the rest is just factless epeen wagging which most guilds do all the time. For the record i never accused you of being some short term WoW guild infact i said the oposite and i dont even have a guild at the moment.

You trolled me? I wasn't even aware you were talking to me.

Hey look at that, I responded to you and forgot who you were within a few posts. That must be pretty embarrassing for you.

Fro
12-07-2008, 06:34 PM
You trolled me? I wasn't even aware you were talking to me.

Hey look at that, I responded to you and forgot who you were within a few posts. That must be pretty embarrassing for you.

Yeh because it's embarassing for me you have the memory of a goldfish.:rolleyes: Maybe i'll get you a DS for christmas and you can do that brain training thing for OAPs. Sounds like you need it.

Ludo
12-07-2008, 07:00 PM
I did read it. Perhaps I am not enlightened enough to notice it... and good job posting something where guys say you buguse. lol.

Edit: Oh, found it. He's just saying some random clans.

There is something called a search text option. It's easy to find it.

Personally I find the old school guilds history and confrontations quite interesting. And I think you can not find anything like this in any other kind of mmo, rarely in any other kind of games either.

Slaker
12-07-2008, 07:12 PM
There is something called a search text option. It's easy to find it.

Personally I find the old school guilds history and confrontations quite interesting. And I think you can not find anything like this in any other kind of mmo, rarely in any other kind of games either.

Yeah you are right :)

Kyrandos
12-07-2008, 07:20 PM
Yeh because it's embarassing for me you have the memory of a goldfish.:rolleyes: Maybe i'll get you a DS for christmas and you can do that brain training thing for OAPs. Sounds like you need it.

I'm not embarrassed that I do not remember who you are. Not in the slightest.

Kyrandos
12-28-2008, 06:17 PM
There is something called a search text option. It's easy to find it.

Personally I find the old school guilds history and confrontations quite interesting. And I think you can not find anything like this in any other kind of mmo, rarely in any other kind of games either.

It's actually pretty fun to go around to some of the old players websites and compare histories. I know Syndicate keeps theirs up, we have ours, The Regulators technically still have theirs but Hawthorne just used it as a soap box to talk about himself as if anyone gave a fuck, pluggers, covetous crew, sinister and sun. Obviously the only accurate history is on The Mercs website, but the other guys can be fun to compare, if you like reading batshit insane drivel (which obviously I do, considering the forum I'm on...)

Suitepee
12-28-2008, 06:24 PM
I'm glad The Mercs are active again. :D

I miss Kyrandos and Osium's Forumfall antics.

Kyrandos
12-28-2008, 06:33 PM
I'm glad The Mercs are active again. :D

I miss Kyrandos and Osium's Forumfall antics.

I miss doing them. Unfortunately it's been made clear to me by the administrators that The Mercs brand of forumfall is no longer welcome or tolerable here, so I'm afraid epic TM threads are a thing of the past.

ChinaCat
12-28-2008, 07:15 PM
I wish I had a screenshot of Osium trying out a Bard in Hybernia. Perhaps you had to be there, but it was funny in contrast to the huff & puff side of him.

I hold a lot of appreciation for all the old school pvp guilds. All the trash talking and more-brave/better-pvpr banter aside, many guilds have a history that goes back to UO and beyond, remain together to this day, and in the absence of that, Darkfall may well have never even been made.

On Darktide, TM was a major factor in the early chapter. The one thing I don't have a clear understanding for though Osium, and perhaps you can clear it up, is the duping. I recall TM reporting its findings, but in game, it appeared it did so after taking advantage of it as well. Just asking. That said, I think TM and a number of other guilds owe a lot to extensive beta experience in AC. TM and other guilds got off the ground running the moment Darktide was born. Me personally, I found my way to Darktide a few days after its birth, and took me quite a while to figure out a reasonable build, although stubbornly tried to make my first one work. lol

One more thing; just a pet peeve. "Worship" was really coined by UDL, and any time it's used by guilds, UDL always comes to mind. They were a lot of fun to play against in UO.

-CC

Nehemia
12-28-2008, 07:17 PM
ChinaCat, all these "major factors" will certainly take advantage of some exploit before reporting it, thats just a raw fact. Duping being the most common of them.

Kyrandos
12-28-2008, 07:35 PM
I wish I had a screenshot of Osium trying out a Bard in Hybernia. Perhaps you had to be there, but it was funny in contrast to the huff & puff side of him.

I hold a lot of appreciation for all the old school pvp guilds. All the trash talking and more-brave/better-pvpr banter aside, many guilds have a history that goes back to UO and beyond, remain together to this day, and in the absence of that, Darkfall may well have never even been made.

On Darktide, TM was a major factor in the early chapter. The one thing I don't have a clear understanding for though Osium, and perhaps you can clear it up, is the duping. I recall TM reporting its findings, but in game, it appeared it did so after taking advantage of it as well. Just asking. That said, I think TM and a number of other guilds owe a lot to extensive beta experience in AC. TM and other guilds got off the ground running the moment Darktide was born. Me personally, I found my way to Darktide a few days after its birth, and took me quite a while to figure out a reasonable build, although stubbornly tried to make my first one work. lol

One more thing; just a pet peeve. "Worship" was really coined by UDL, and any time it's used by guilds, UDL always comes to mind. They were a lot of fun to play against in UO.

-CC

Hey Cat. You know better than to start running around claiming term invention, especially when you're addressing a clan older than UDL. I don't know who 'invented' it, nor do I care.

As for darktide, TM approached it like TM approaches all games - full throttle. We've achieved the same results with or without beta experience. Also keep in mind, TM was NOT the only guild in AC beta. As for duping, I don't really know. With the heirarchy system in that game, you could probably claim any 'clan' was involved in duping through some association. Regardless, when a certain exploit is as common and widely used as a game mechanic, we wont shy from it. We'll report it and use it. For instance the snoop bug in UO where you could reset your notoriety enough to prevent guards insta killing you after you went on a killing spree. Name a person who didn't use that exploit daily and I'll show you someone who played after they patched it.

Thiscat
12-28-2008, 08:36 PM
I've reached a point where I feel the need to express my disappointment with Kyrandos. Some background is in order: Kyrandos is the devil incarnate. An obvious parallel from a slightly different context is that we can divide his utterances into three categories: muddleheaded, warped, and insufferable.

"What's that?", I hear you ask. "Is it true that the messages contained in Kyrandos's beliefs are a powerful source of illumination on the behavior of morally questionable dopeheads?" Why, yes, it is.

Kyrandos once tried to ignore compromise and focus solely on his personal agenda. If you consider this an exception to the rule then you definitely don't understand how Kyrandos operates. I hope, however, that you at least understand that we can no longer afford to do nothing about his truculent canards. Instead, we must strike while the iron is hot and comment on Kyrandos's jeremiads.

Sure, we could just sit back and let Kyrandos suppress all news that portrays him in a bad light, but that prospect really grates on people who have any kind of common sense. He keeps saying that every featherless biped, regardless of intelligence, personal achievement, moral character, sense of responsibility, or sanity, should be given the power to render unspeakable and unthinkable whole categories of beliefs about power. For some reason, Kyrandos's loyalists actually believe this nonsense. Anyone who takes even a cursory glance at this letter will quickly discover that if he succeeds in his attempt to squander irreplaceable national treasures, it'll have to be over my dead body. Although Kyrandos would like us to believe that he should be a given a direct pipeline to the National Treasury, he has given us neither good reason nor credible evidence to believe that. His equivocations, on the other hand, give us good reason to believe that he thinks it would be a great idea to seek vengeance on those unrepentant souls who persist in challenging his codices. Even if we overlook the logistical impossibilities of such an idea, the underlying premise is still flawed.

So, what am I doing about that? I'm educating. I'm trying to raise several issues about Kyrandos's villainous hastily mounted campaigns that are frequently missing from the drivel that masquerades for discourse on this topic. I once had a nightmare in which Kyrandos was free to put huffy thoughts in our children's minds. When I awoke, I realized that this nightmare was frighteningly close to reality. For instance, it is the case both in my nightmare and in reality that Kyrandos's ideologies promote a redistribution of wealth. This is always an appealing proposition for Kyrandos's lickspittles because much of the redistributed wealth will undoubtedly end up in the hands of the redistributors as a condign reward for their loyalty to Kyrandos.

Here's a question for you: To what gods does Kyrandos pledge allegiance? The gods of Trotskyism and oligarchism? The gods that seem most likely to command Kyrandos to call for a return to that which wasn't particularly good in the first place? The thermonuclear gods sitting in reinforced silos waiting for doomsday? The answer has two parts to it. The first part regards the manner in which Kyrandos deserves to be punished. The second part of the answer is focused on the the way that we have a dilemma of leviathan proportions on our hands: Should we put the fear of God into Kyrandos, or is it sufficient to empower the oppressed to control their own lives? If you need help in answering that question, you may note that Kyrandos's vassals aver that everyone and everything discriminates against Kyrandos -- including the writing on the bathroom stalls. This is precisely the non-equation that Kyrandos is trying to patch together. What he's missing, as usual, is that one does not have to turn me, a typically mild-mannered person, into a dissolute vat of Jacobinism in order to halt the adulation heaped upon self-absorbed finks. It is a sleazy person who believes otherwise.

Since I have promised to be candid, I will tell you candidly that Kyrandos believes that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters. Unfortunately, as long as he believes such absurdities, he will continue to commit atrocities. If he wants to rule with an iron fist, fine. Just don't make me hide in a closet while he's at it.

Kyrandos coins polysyllabic neologisms to make his philippics sound like they're actually important. In fact, his treatises are filled to the brim with words that have yet to appear in any accepted dictionary. Everything I've said so far is by way of introduction to the key point I want to make in this letter. My key point is that the continuing misunderstandings that some prudish utopians seem to have merely underscore this point. Kyrandos's subalterns probably don't realize that because it's not mentioned in the funny papers or in the movies. Nevertheless, if I were elected Ruler of the World, my first act of business would be to strike at the heart of his efforts to legitimize the fear and hatred of the privileged for the oppressed. I would further use my position to inform certain segments of the Earth's population that Kyrandos should stop calling me a childish smear merchant. Although I've been called worse things by better people, some day, Kyrandos's intrusive torchbearers may ask you why you think it's a good idea to get the facts out in the hope that somebody else will do something to solve the problem. If you're too stunned to answer immediately they'll answer for you, probably stating that laws are meant to be broken. You should therefore be prepared to tell these disorganized, simple-minded buggers that we must soon make one of the most momentous decisions in history. We must decide whether to let Kyrandos rouse the agitated petite bourgeoisie to chauvinistic fervor and hoodwink them into increasing society's cycle of hostility and violence or, alternatively, whether we should eschew bilious, discourteous Fabianism. Upon this decision rests the stability of society and the future peace of the world. My view on this decision is that one of Kyrandos's most loyal buddies is known to have remarked, "Kyrandos has the authority to issue licenses for practicing immoralism." And there you have it: a direct quote from a primary source. The significance of that quote is that I want to unify our community. Kyrandos, in contrast, wants to drive divisive ideological wedges through it.

Kyrandos obviously doesn't want me to take a strong position on his recommendations, which, after all, step on other people's toes. Well, I've never been a very obedient dog so I intend not only to do exactly that but also to illustrate the virtues that Kyrandos lacks -- courage, truthfulness, courtesy, honesty, diligence, chivalry, loyalty, and industry. Common-sense understanding of human nature tells us that if we briefly prescind from the main point of this letter we can focus on how we find among narrow and uneducated minds the belief that pessimism brings one closer to nirvana. This belief is due to a basic confusion that can be cleared up simply by stating that last summer, I attempted what I knew would be a hopeless task. I tried to convince Kyrandos that those who stand too close to the canvas of history while it is being woven may erroneously conclude that every word that leaves his mouth is teeming with useful information. As I expected, Kyrandos was unconvinced.

Given Kyrandos's propensity for repression in the service of paradigmatic integrity, it is little wonder that Kyrandos says that he is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose. This is at best wrong. At worst, it is a lie. Although the Battle of Waterloo may have been won on the playing fields of Eton I nevertheless believe that even when Kyrandos isn't lying, he's using facts, emphasizing facts, bearing down on facts, sliding off facts, quietly ignoring facts, and, above all, interpreting facts in a way that will enable him to start wars, ruin the environment, invent diseases, and routinely do a hundred other things that kill people. Let us postulate that I assert that the portrayal of barbarians in our culture is partially responsible for his memoirs. In that case, if I had my druthers, he would never have had the opportunity to force his moral code on the rest of us. As it stands, I normally prefer to listen than to speak. I would, however, like to remind Kyrandos that his circulars are an icon for the deterioration of the city, for its slow slide into crime, malaise, and filth. I hope I haven't bored you by writing an entire letter about Kyrandos. Still, this letter was the best way to explain to you that the best gauge of the value of my attitudes, the sincerity of my convictions, and the force of my will is the hostility I receive from noisome, jaded menaces.

Spades Felligan
12-28-2008, 08:44 PM
Someone used the Kant generator.

Kyrandos
12-28-2008, 08:56 PM
I've reached a point where I feel the need to express my disappointment with Kyrandos. Some background is in order: Kyrandos is the devil incarnate. An obvious parallel from a slightly different context is that we can divide his utterances into three categories: muddleheaded, warped, and insufferable.

"What's that?", I hear you ask. "Is it true that the messages contained in Kyrandos's beliefs are a powerful source of illumination on the behavior of morally questionable dopeheads?" Why, yes, it is.

Kyrandos once tried to ignore compromise and focus solely on his personal agenda. If you consider this an exception to the rule then you definitely don't understand how Kyrandos operates. I hope, however, that you at least understand that we can no longer afford to do nothing about his truculent canards. Instead, we must strike while the iron is hot and comment on Kyrandos's jeremiads.

Sure, we could just sit back and let Kyrandos suppress all news that portrays him in a bad light, but that prospect really grates on people who have any kind of common sense. He keeps saying that every featherless biped, regardless of intelligence, personal achievement, moral character, sense of responsibility, or sanity, should be given the power to render unspeakable and unthinkable whole categories of beliefs about power. For some reason, Kyrandos's loyalists actually believe this nonsense. Anyone who takes even a cursory glance at this letter will quickly discover that if he succeeds in his attempt to squander irreplaceable national treasures, it'll have to be over my dead body. Although Kyrandos would like us to believe that he should be a given a direct pipeline to the National Treasury, he has given us neither good reason nor credible evidence to believe that. His equivocations, on the other hand, give us good reason to believe that he thinks it would be a great idea to seek vengeance on those unrepentant souls who persist in challenging his codices. Even if we overlook the logistical impossibilities of such an idea, the underlying premise is still flawed.

So, what am I doing about that? I'm educating. I'm trying to raise several issues about Kyrandos's villainous hastily mounted campaigns that are frequently missing from the drivel that masquerades for discourse on this topic. I once had a nightmare in which Kyrandos was free to put huffy thoughts in our children's minds. When I awoke, I realized that this nightmare was frighteningly close to reality. For instance, it is the case both in my nightmare and in reality that Kyrandos's ideologies promote a redistribution of wealth. This is always an appealing proposition for Kyrandos's lickspittles because much of the redistributed wealth will undoubtedly end up in the hands of the redistributors as a condign reward for their loyalty to Kyrandos.

Here's a question for you: To what gods does Kyrandos pledge allegiance? The gods of Trotskyism and oligarchism? The gods that seem most likely to command Kyrandos to call for a return to that which wasn't particularly good in the first place? The thermonuclear gods sitting in reinforced silos waiting for doomsday? The answer has two parts to it. The first part regards the manner in which Kyrandos deserves to be punished. The second part of the answer is focused on the the way that we have a dilemma of leviathan proportions on our hands: Should we put the fear of God into Kyrandos, or is it sufficient to empower the oppressed to control their own lives? If you need help in answering that question, you may note that Kyrandos's vassals aver that everyone and everything discriminates against Kyrandos -- including the writing on the bathroom stalls. This is precisely the non-equation that Kyrandos is trying to patch together. What he's missing, as usual, is that one does not have to turn me, a typically mild-mannered person, into a dissolute vat of Jacobinism in order to halt the adulation heaped upon self-absorbed finks. It is a sleazy person who believes otherwise.

Since I have promised to be candid, I will tell you candidly that Kyrandos believes that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters. Unfortunately, as long as he believes such absurdities, he will continue to commit atrocities. If he wants to rule with an iron fist, fine. Just don't make me hide in a closet while he's at it.

Kyrandos coins polysyllabic neologisms to make his philippics sound like they're actually important. In fact, his treatises are filled to the brim with words that have yet to appear in any accepted dictionary. Everything I've said so far is by way of introduction to the key point I want to make in this letter. My key point is that the continuing misunderstandings that some prudish utopians seem to have merely underscore this point. Kyrandos's subalterns probably don't realize that because it's not mentioned in the funny papers or in the movies. Nevertheless, if I were elected Ruler of the World, my first act of business would be to strike at the heart of his efforts to legitimize the fear and hatred of the privileged for the oppressed. I would further use my position to inform certain segments of the Earth's population that Kyrandos should stop calling me a childish smear merchant. Although I've been called worse things by better people, some day, Kyrandos's intrusive torchbearers may ask you why you think it's a good idea to get the facts out in the hope that somebody else will do something to solve the problem. If you're too stunned to answer immediately they'll answer for you, probably stating that laws are meant to be broken. You should therefore be prepared to tell these disorganized, simple-minded buggers that we must soon make one of the most momentous decisions in history. We must decide whether to let Kyrandos rouse the agitated petite bourgeoisie to chauvinistic fervor and hoodwink them into increasing society's cycle of hostility and violence or, alternatively, whether we should eschew bilious, discourteous Fabianism. Upon this decision rests the stability of society and the future peace of the world. My view on this decision is that one of Kyrandos's most loyal buddies is known to have remarked, "Kyrandos has the authority to issue licenses for practicing immoralism." And there you have it: a direct quote from a primary source. The significance of that quote is that I want to unify our community. Kyrandos, in contrast, wants to drive divisive ideological wedges through it.

Kyrandos obviously doesn't want me to take a strong position on his recommendations, which, after all, step on other people's toes. Well, I've never been a very obedient dog so I intend not only to do exactly that but also to illustrate the virtues that Kyrandos lacks -- courage, truthfulness, courtesy, honesty, diligence, chivalry, loyalty, and industry. Common-sense understanding of human nature tells us that if we briefly prescind from the main point of this letter we can focus on how we find among narrow and uneducated minds the belief that pessimism brings one closer to nirvana. This belief is due to a basic confusion that can be cleared up simply by stating that last summer, I attempted what I knew would be a hopeless task. I tried to convince Kyrandos that those who stand too close to the canvas of history while it is being woven may erroneously conclude that every word that leaves his mouth is teeming with useful information. As I expected, Kyrandos was unconvinced.

Given Kyrandos's propensity for repression in the service of paradigmatic integrity, it is little wonder that Kyrandos says that he is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose. This is at best wrong. At worst, it is a lie. Although the Battle of Waterloo may have been won on the playing fields of Eton I nevertheless believe that even when Kyrandos isn't lying, he's using facts, emphasizing facts, bearing down on facts, sliding off facts, quietly ignoring facts, and, above all, interpreting facts in a way that will enable him to start wars, ruin the environment, invent diseases, and routinely do a hundred other things that kill people. Let us postulate that I assert that the portrayal of barbarians in our culture is partially responsible for his memoirs. In that case, if I had my druthers, he would never have had the opportunity to force his moral code on the rest of us. As it stands, I normally prefer to listen than to speak. I would, however, like to remind Kyrandos that his circulars are an icon for the deterioration of the city, for its slow slide into crime, malaise, and filth. I hope I haven't bored you by writing an entire letter about Kyrandos. Still, this letter was the best way to explain to you that the best gauge of the value of my attitudes, the sincerity of my convictions, and the force of my will is the hostility I receive from noisome, jaded menaces.

Your Kant util. It flatters me.

SinnerDT
12-28-2008, 08:59 PM
I was waiting for this. Shouldn't Osium be posting this however?

Okay. After reading all this I feel the old fire from VN and COD and feel forced to reply.

Anyone who hasn't heard of the Mercs can't be considered to be a real MMO gamer. If you were, you'd have heard of them in UO and AC. On AC they, along with Sinister, were the two big guilds. I believe TM quit slightly before SiN when the game started to go to shit.

TM or SiN was the first to host fight night in Arwic, and even today most of the best lore and legend of Darktide revolves around the 1999? era of the server when Mikey hit 54, people were exploiting the wall in BDC and the pit, and guilds still mattered before Blood/KoC came in and fucking the whole game over.

Osium isn't anyone to fuck around with. He's got a bigger mouth than most people, and coming from me that's a lot. TM stirs shit up and creates actual real drama in the game and politics and I gaurantee you they will do this in Darkfall if they actually stick around long enough.

I can agree that since AC there hasn't be one single MMO worth pvping in. There just hasn't. End of story. Whether it's bad combat system, gear reliant pvp, lack of consequence and reward or just plain and simple bad game mechanics.

I don't play with TM, I have never really been that privy to their insider goings on except for hanging with Penn a bit and a TINY bit with Osium when TM almost came back and played AC. I hope they play Darkfall and I hope Zerg guilds are a bull shit thing of the past, because MMos really have been swamped with carebears for ever.

I will probably play with SiN as I did in WoW and the four days of AoC (which sucked fucking dick) that I played. Anyone who doesn't know who TM is probably wasn't around for UO or the release of AC, and if you weren't, then I don't know how you consider yourself a PVPer. You probably play counter strike source and think you're good cause you get head shots.

Kyrandos
12-29-2008, 06:27 AM
I was waiting for this. Shouldn't Osium be posting this however?

Okay. After reading all this I feel the old fire from VN and COD and feel forced to reply.

Anyone who hasn't heard of the Mercs can't be considered to be a real MMO gamer. If you were, you'd have heard of them in UO and AC. On AC they, along with Sinister, were the two big guilds. I believe TM quit slightly before SiN when the game started to go to shit.

TM or SiN was the first to host fight night in Arwic, and even today most of the best lore and legend of Darktide revolves around the 1999? era of the server when Mikey hit 54, people were exploiting the wall in BDC and the pit, and guilds still mattered before Blood/KoC came in and fucking the whole game over.

Osium isn't anyone to fuck around with. He's got a bigger mouth than most people, and coming from me that's a lot. TM stirs shit up and creates actual real drama in the game and politics and I gaurantee you they will do this in Darkfall if they actually stick around long enough.

I can agree that since AC there hasn't be one single MMO worth pvping in. There just hasn't. End of story. Whether it's bad combat system, gear reliant pvp, lack of consequence and reward or just plain and simple bad game mechanics.

I don't play with TM, I have never really been that privy to their insider goings on except for hanging with Penn a bit and a TINY bit with Osium when TM almost came back and played AC. I hope they play Darkfall and I hope Zerg guilds are a bull shit thing of the past, because MMos really have been swamped with carebears for ever.

I will probably play with SiN as I did in WoW and the four days of AoC (which sucked fucking dick) that I played. Anyone who doesn't know who TM is probably wasn't around for UO or the release of AC, and if you weren't, then I don't know how you consider yourself a PVPer. You probably play counter strike source and think you're good cause you get head shots.

I can post whatever the fuck I want.

Lord Belphegor
12-29-2008, 06:29 AM
I can post whatever the fuck I want.

We know that, you show that very clearly. Unfortunatley, any idiot can post whatever they want as long as it stays unnoticed or within ToS boundries. What a bummer.

Anyways, continue stroking your very tiny epeen. Afterall, everyone needs some sort of excitement and feeling of significance in their life.

Kyrandos
12-29-2008, 06:31 AM
We know that, you show that very clearly. Unfortunatley, any idiot can post whatever they want as long as it stays unnoticed or within ToS boundries. What a bummer.

Anyways, continue stroking your very tiny epeen. Afterall, everyone needs some sort of excitement and feeling of significance in their life.

I don't get you. Are you trying to offer your support or are you trying to flame me?

Lord Belphegor
12-29-2008, 06:37 AM
I don't get you. Are you trying to offer your support or are you trying to flame me?

Good question. I guess in the end I'm just trying to show some support. Everyone feels lonely and insignificant at some point in their life. The difference is that for some people it could be a moment, and for some it's their life. In your case, I'm just hoping one day you'll grow big enough huevos to alter your miserable life and find some joy of life beyond pathetic and continuously failing attempts at making yourself look big on forums.


(Considering your clan really doesn't have any whatsoever accomplishments to be cocky about since we aren't living in stone ages and DT is dead. But then again, you can still hear vegetable brain dead WW1 veterans get exited when talking about their glory days while having their ass wiped by the nurse)

Kyrandos
12-29-2008, 06:53 AM
Good question. I guess in the end I'm just trying to show some support. Everyone feels lonely and insignificant at some point in their life. The difference is that for some people it could be a moment, and for some it's their life. In your case, I'm just hoping one day you'll grow big enough huevos to alter your miserable life and find some joy of life beyond pathetic and continuously failing attempts at making yourself look big on forums.


(Considering your clan really doesn't have any whatsoever accomplishments to be cocky about since we aren't living in stone ages and DT is dead. But then again, you can still hear vegetable brain dead WW1 veterans get exited when talking about their glory days while having their ass wiped by the nurse)

I'm curious why the most offensive thing you could muster up you targeted at veterans of a war that happened nearly a hundred years ago. BTW, I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't know of many WW1 vets still alive. There's gotta be what, half a dozen?

Lord Belphegor
12-29-2008, 07:04 AM
I'm curious why the most offensive thing you could muster up you targeted at veterans of a war that happened nearly a hundred years ago. BTW, I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't know of many WW1 vets still alive. There's gotta be what, half a dozen?

Probably dozen or so, but if they can still even remember what they ate in the morning, they most likely love talking about their youth days. Does it mean they'll do any good in modern war?

Seriously, stop bragging so much. You guys haven't done shit since years. Until you prove yourself again in the game, you have absolutely nothing. For your information, there are plenty of guilds which used to own in AC:DT, UO and SB which turned out to be complete newb shit nowdays.

You ain't shit, sorry to break it to you, but that's the truth. That's the fact until you and your crew of alzheimer's patients shows something worthy again in Darkfall.

For now, you are nothing but a pile of text garbage. Prove us wrong on Jan 22nd and on, and until then, make sure you don't piss off your nurse or you'll be laying in the same shit for a day or two.

Kyrandos
12-29-2008, 07:08 AM
Probably dozen or so, but if they can still even remember what they ate in the morning, they most likely love talking about their youth days. Does it mean they'll do any good in modern war?

Seriously, stop bragging so much. You guys haven't done shit since years. Until you prove yourself again in the game, you have absolutely nothing. For your information, there are plenty of guilds which used to own in AC:DT, UO and SB which turned out to be complete newb shit nowdays.

You ain't shit, sorry to break it to you, but that's the truth. That's the fact until you and your crew of alzheimer's patients shows something worthy again in Darkfall.

For now, you are nothing but a pile of text garbage. Prove us wrong on Jan 22nd and on, and until then, make sure you don't piss off your nurse or you'll be laying in the same shit for a day or two.

Did you just call me old? Gawddamn fuckin' big guns on you, now!

SinnerDT
12-30-2008, 07:52 PM
I can post whatever the fuck I want.LOL I post a post half way supporting you and you reply with that.

moneda
12-30-2008, 08:16 PM
LOL I post a post half way supporting you and you reply with that.

I am nearly convinced Kyrandos has some sort of personality disorder.

TheVillageIdiot
12-30-2008, 09:55 PM
I am nearly convinced Kyrandos has some sort of personality disorder.

All TM have a personality disorder. Seriously they are possibly the biggest board warriors I have ever seen but they have about 5 members (not exaggerating).

Osium
12-30-2008, 10:13 PM
numbers and mass doesnt always win...plenty of examples in how numbers arent everything, and you just provided an example with the AoC canyon. Yes, if all factors are EXACTLY the same for both side (intelligence, player skill, etc), then yes, numbers will win, but that is quite rare for player skill to be the same, etc. Thermopylae is a classic example. Agincourt. Hell, almost all of the conquest of the Americas wasnt by numbers, but by the military and technological superiority of the Europeans. the natives sure outnumbered the europeans, but they didnt have guns, germs, and as advanced military strategies, etc.

You're retarded. The conquest of the Americas has basically nothing do with military and technological superiority of the Europeans.

It had to do with cultural differences. Europeans fought to dominate, the Azteks fought ceremonially to take sacrifices.
It had to do with disease, by the time Europeans reached South America half the work was already done.
It had to do with previously standing regional rivalries, the Europeans allied with Natives and used largely native armies to fight against the Azteks and Incas.
It had to do with the situation, the Europeans had nothing to concern themselves with other than their own safety, the Native peoples had families and children so the choice to not fight was strong.

The Spanish were more or less a catalyst that empowered peoples subjugated by the Azteks to rise up and throw them down. At any time the Natives could have turned on the Spanish and wiped them out. Cortez and the other conquistadors were TOTALLY reliant on their Native allies.

Osium
12-30-2008, 10:15 PM
You TM jokers need to get off your dead asses and fire up the war machines, or resign yourselves to being non-factors.

Modern mainstream mmo's require larger than ever groups to be competetive in much of their high level content. That means guilds are bigger than ever.That means recruiting, activity planning, maintaining a website, forums, Vent server, etc to be considered a top guild.

All the stuff that many old school guilds of 15-20 longtime guildmates don't want to fuck with anymore.

LotD looks like an active, evolving guild going strong. TM looks like some old guys that don't do much but board warrior any more fading away.

We were more than capable of embarrassing you scrubs in KO!

Kyrandos
12-30-2008, 10:25 PM
LOL I post a post half way supporting you and you reply with that.

So what, we're supposed to be friends now?

Osium
12-30-2008, 10:35 PM
We have screenshots showing what we have accomplished. #1 in Fury, Top 5 in CoX, Top 10 in GW, Top 5 on AoC as well as a hold list of other things we have done since UO.

Here some things for you to look upon as proof. Where's yours? http://www.lotd.org/38.html

It's funny. Nobody played fury, but I saw a bunch of guys mocking you for claiming to be #1 in Fury. Didn't they say it was only ONE week you held that position and it was a week ALL the other top ladder guilds didn't play?

Top 10 in GW? What?

Top 5 in AoC? What?

Top 5 in CoX? WHAT?

I don't even know what CoX is. GW wasn't a good game, neither was AoC.

You know what I see when I see you list these achievements? I see you claiming to have been the biggest baddest guys in a turd parade.

At the end of the day however you have to remember, you're just the biggest turd.

LotD has not been important, competitive or GOOD in any MAJOR MMO.

The last MAJOR MMO was DaoC Merlin. LOTD was a 3rd or 4th rate guild. They were not even on the horizon.

In Asherons Call LOTD used Admin Accounts to create hacked characters the final days of beta. They THOUGHT they would roll around and own people up. What happens when level 100 GM made characters run into Mercs? They got owned. They got owned so much those final days that on the final night, they modified their HP and Stats so much that one drain life siphoned over 2k hp. Only when they made themselves for all intents and purposes unkillable were they able to register their ONLY victory of the weekend.

Fearing what would happen on Darktide, LotD skipped the best PvP MMO to date and went to a blue server where they sucked and were a non-factor.

In UO you got fucking curb stomped by LoD in a WWE style "LOSER CHANGES HIS NAME" royal rumble. I was actually there, and with my brand spanking new character, I actually fought FOR LotD in this battle, I was the last person left alive and I got the ONLY kill.

You see, what Hades has done is realize that he himself has no talent, his core members have no talent. He could not compete with the elite guilds and as such he mass recruited. He went into games like GW and CoX, whatever the fuck that is and told people he had this long illustrious career and that LotD was an IMPORTANT guild.

Notice how Hades refused to take me up on that duel offer? It's because he knows that man for man, TM has more talent than anyone out there.

What does DF offer? It offers a chance for skill to trump numbers. What is Hades going to do in DF when his members are getting ganked daily by groups of people several times smaller than his. I'll tell you what he will do. He will ally with all the other couldn't cut it "PvP" guilds and form a giant reach-around-circle-jerk-fest alliance.

TrueKing
12-30-2008, 10:41 PM
EU or NA? cause i was in top 10 guild in GW and nevah heard of anything like that!

en theres a few leader boards within GW so watta fuck?

my guild was in top 10 in HoH [RoH].

me think u lie.

Osium
12-30-2008, 10:47 PM
http://www.lotd.org/38.html?pic=63

Lmfao.

1995? That is Darksun Online, the game went BETA in 1996. His guild Lotd didn't even form until 1997, I know I founded it with Mobus, Mordru and Abhor.

It's hard to take anything Hades says serious when he blatantly lies out of his ass about shit like that.

TheVillageIdiot
12-30-2008, 10:51 PM
The last MAJOR MMO TM has done anything significant was DaoC Merlin.....



Fixed your quote.

I wouldn't call TM allying with everyone on your faction under the "Angry Elves" A huge accomplishment. Midguard still dominated Merlin
despite your alliance and subsequent departure (of course declaring victory). Still we had some fun fights. I must agree with your quote at the time something about DAoC was a crappy game, can't recall the details.


But seriously, last major MMO I enjoyed completely was Shadowbane. But played too many of them.

AoC was fun till you capped level. I certainly saw TM there, not holding their own either. Your guild name was "pink pirates" or something like this?

Now as to accusing LoTD of hacking....people in glass house shouldn't throw stones. I recall an incident in AC-DT involving duping of 113 yumi's and Matty robes...who was involved with that?

In the interest of free love for all, I can certainly say LoTD is a solid guild with accomplishments in many games since DAoC, which is more than I can say for others. Had some good fights against LoTD and some good fights with LoTD, definitely one of the most mature & organized guilds out there.