anyone in greece can got his hands on "Games" magazie ?

[MortalZero]

Well as title says 'Games' magazine must be out and there is the promised interview from Tasos inside, anyone in Greece can give us some info about ?

Thanks in advance ....

BTW some fools on MMORPG.com don't believe the existance of the mag and broadcast wrong info.
For these uniformed and haters who like to spin info they way they want...
CGM != Games ..

August Cover story of 'Games' seems to be a action game called "Too Human" but on the cover page is stated also a story about "Greek game publisher", Very likely these to be Aventurine .. :)

[Bunkah]

BTW some fools on MMORPG.com don't believe the existance of the mag and broadcast wrong info.

I thought mmorpg.com had the best darkfall community??

Can't wait to see that magazine.. we'll need someone to translate it tho!

[Kez]

YAY! Finnally lets see something new :D

[MortalZero]

I thought mmorpg.com had the best darkfall community??

Can't wait to see that magazine.. we'll need someone to translate it tho!

Thanks to the Community of "Too Human" we have a pic of frontpage Cover

http://toohuman.net/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=28&func=view&id=53777&catid=2

Like i said "Game of the month" cover story about "Too Human"
but also a story about "Greek game publisher" inside promised at the frontpage also.

well the quantity of anticipation at mmorpg.com isn't the prob :sly:

[d_arcturus]

Thanks to the Community of "Too Human" we have a pic of frontpage Cover

http://toohuman.net/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=28&func=view&id=53777&catid=2

Like i said "Game of the month" cover story about "Too Human"
but also a story about "Greek game publisher" inside promised at the frontpage also.

well the quantity of anticipation at mmorpg.com isn't the prob :sly:

Someone message the guy on the Too Human board and have them scan the rest of the stuff for us

[Largion]

Someone message the guy on the Too Human board and have them scan the rest of the stuff for us

Is that legal? :ninja:

[d_arcturus]

If he just scans the "greek developer" part, it might be fine. As long as he's not scanning the whole book and trying to sell it for money.

[Bimbaa]

Oh gawd why can't we just have some interviews in some main-stream magazines :confused:

[IcePillow]

I don't understand anything on the frontpage... :(

[spike47]

Damn I wanna see the rest of those scans.

NOTE: Too human got a 9/10 from that Greek Magazine and a 6.75/10 from Game Informer.

[Lethn]

Fuck mainstream magazines they always sell out to the huge publishers, I can't believe the whiners haven't realized that yet, why do you think they always have big annoying advertisements and background images of publisher games on their websites?

Yeah, more and more game sites are doing that now and it's fucking annoying.

[Bimbaa]

Fuck mainstream magazines they always sell out to the huge publishers, I can't believe the whiners haven't realized that yet, why do you think they always have big annoying advertisements and background images of publisher games on their websites?

Yeah, more and more game sites are doing that now and it's fucking annoying.

I don't care, I just want some INFO.

[GRCPan]

Games is a really bad magazine.

The cover says: Subject: Greek Game Publishers

[Madrandomize]

Games is a really bad magazine.

The cover says: Subject: Greek Game Publishers

I don't like "games" magazine too ,it feels too childish ,like the guys that write stuff are under the age of 15.

Anyways the greek "Pc master" had some info of the greek games development meeting that happened for the first time here in greece.

Since i dont have a a scanner i will try and photograph it post the pictures here.

Btw its the same old same old info we know for ages but i will post anyway.

[d_arcturus]

Can you post a translation instead of pictures. A Majority of people here can't read greek. By Majority, I mean, me.

[GRCPan]

Can you post a translation instead of pictures. A Majority of people here can't read greek. By Majority, I mean, me.

No way everybody knows greek!
Well when he posts the pics I will check it out and translate anything that might be important when I get the time.

[Madrandomize]

No way everybody knows greek!
Well when he posts the pics I will check it out and translate anything that might be important when I get the time.

ok thanks grcpan i will update now but i dont have time for translation right now.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7307/p11208081743id4.jpg

Te link is up but is not in good resolution but it can be read ,cause i cant upload it in best resolution on imageshack

[Manfesto]

Doesn't look readable to me.

[Legolas]

I have a hard time to belive that this is all, thats not a interview. That gameworld.gr guy at YouTube said it would be beta and release information and probably more information than that.

[Eber]

I did understand Aventurine and the 2008 at the end. Woho!

[Legolas]

I did understand Aventurine and the 2008 at the end. Woho!

The small pics on the top right says Darkfall! :ohno:

[Eber]

The small pics on the top right says Darkfall! :ohno:

You are right! omg! now I'm excited. :p

[Madrandomize]

The translation .As it seems i found time .

"The last presentation,although out of schedule,because the named stodio was informed the last minute about GGDC (greek game developers conference),was also on of the best.

Have you ever imagined a Greek mmorpg with breathtaking graphics and content and gameplay that can stand equal to the big foreign names?

Stop dreaming and come to 2008 with the name darkfall online.

Its a video of a game that when we saw the demo video in the room ,you couldnt hear even someone breathing.

100% proffesional job.A collaboration (i dont know if the word collaboration is the exact word ) between foreign and especially greek programmers with alot hard work (i cant translate "meraki" to english) ,have given a game that looks amazing.

There wont be loadings,as tasos of aventurine has promished us and he also promished the constant addition of content in the game,from the first day of it's launch.

Its to hopeful to see such an ambitius project and know that it is created in greece,with whatever difficulties this comes with.

Unfortunately aventurine doesnt care very much with the press and doesnt give enough information,with result some times someone can be driven with suspicions that the game will never launch.

We were assured though that the title will launch normally in 2008"

[Legolas]

Yea, didnt tell us much... Crap magazine :rolleyes:

[PsychoPigeon]

Why don't they tell us anything!!!!

[MortalZero]

Scan and translation wasn't from recent 'Games' magazine, right ?

It is from past 'PC Gamer' about developer meeting we know and not the interview , right ?

[Xez]

Yea, didnt tell us much... Crap magazine :rolleyes:

at least they approve the ultimate awsomeness of df

[Hotreb]

Its a video of a game that when we saw the demo video in the room ,you couldnt hear even someone breathing.


First ty Madrandomize

Is that suppose to be the video we're waiting for, or the old "location test viseo: sites and cities" on youtube? That could be important

[Jonkar]

So much for the interview.

[dirtknap]

I have a hard time to belive that this is all, thats not a interview.

agree. i'm sure there's a separate interview coming.

[Red Morgan]

What's the Greek word for "soon"?

[Legolas]

First ty Madrandomize

Is that suppose to be the video we're waiting for, or the old "location test viseo: sites and cities" on youtube? That could be important

It was the old ones, according to GameWorld.gr.

And to quote what he said about beta and such;

Was this the only Darkfall video shown at the Greek gaming conference?, if not what was the other one like?
- There were 2 videos at the greek conference. We've just uploaded the other one.

Can you confirm if there will be an exclusive Darkfall interview in the august edition of GameWorldGR?

- Yes

Will there be any information in the Darkfall interview about beta/ publishing or release?

- Yes

When exactly will the August edition of GameWorldGR be released?
- Probably, in the first days of August. Stay tuned

Also if you attended the conference can you post anything interesting that was not mentioned in the GameWorldGR article?

- Darkfall received a standing ovation during and after the presentation. Also, many independent programmers spoke with Tasos Flabouras after the meeting, in order to work with Aventurine S.A.

[MortalZero]

Anyways the greek "Pc master" had some info of the greek games development meeting that happened for the first time here in greece.

Since i dont have a a scanner i will try and photograph it post the pictures here.

Btw its the same old same old info we know for ages but i will post anyway.

/point to the important source of scan and translation

At least to my understanding we got here things mixed up with this source and the "Games" magazine of August who may contain the interview...

[zz123]

- Darkfall received a standing ovation during and after the presentation. Also, many independent programmers spoke with Tasos Flabouras after the meeting, in order to work with Aventurine S.A.
That's promising.

[Lord Nicolaz]

What's the Greek word for "soon"?

I guess that was the "meraki" one :lmao:

[GRCPan]

I guess that was the "meraki" one :lmao:

Nah syntoma(tm) would be the right one :)

[keeperofstars]

Good work, seems ever time we dig this crap up and slap the forums around with it our beloved and hated Tasos lets more cats out of the bag. I am hoping they had the new video ready for the conference, and just wanted to release it their first, and then to us. I'm on vacation next week so it would be a great time to send the video out, I will have a week of watching it 24/7 without my boss complaining.

[Signus]

The small pics on the top right says Darkfall! :ohno:

You are right! omg! now I'm excited. :p

It is really sad when this is the most information we get. Just a rehash of stuff we knew (by accident, by the way, someone found it, they didn't tell us) and an "interview" that is a paragraph in an article about other Greek companies.

Almost halfway through August... where is the media blitz? The interviews? The comprehensive video?

At least in their defense, they're probably busier right now than they've ever been.

[antihero-zero]

Thank you Madrandomize, that was generous of you.

[Lorthral]

Very cool. Great find!

[keeperofstars]

It is really sad when this is the most information we get. Just a rehash of stuff we knew (by accident, by the way, someone found it, they didn't tell us) and an "interview" that is a paragraph in an article about other Greek companies.

Almost halfway through August... where is the media blitz? The interviews? The comprehensive video?

At least in their defense, they're probably busier right now than they've ever been.

Why bother with a media blitz. If they release the long video, it will take about 1-2 hours for it to be the most watched video of the week on youtube, and then the whole world will know about DF. Seems more effective then wasting time, money, and efforts to post information in a few articles, and pay for ads on sites etc.

The devs have said time and time again, that they will let the game speak for itself, and after the failures of AoC, Vanguard, Tablua rasa, etc etc etc. Of late, talk is becoming cheap and worthless in the MMO industry.

Sure people get a warm fuzzy feeling about a game they see in PC gamer, but when they are done reading it, they go eh whatever no way they will have those features in the game, and just disregard it.

Or you show the people with real life footage, not cgi cut scenes, what your game can do and you have an instant fanboy.

[Nackl of Gilmed]

It would be interesting if all these years of tight-lipped development concluded with a media storm centred around their youtube video. How much does Blizzard spend on publicity?

[Thoric]

The article about the GGDC is from "PC Master". Still no news about the interview in "Games".

[Feyrband]

as far as the conference goes theres not really new info just from that i dont think. link on their website is here.

http://www.gameworld.gr/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1325

http://translate.google.com/translate_t

[d_arcturus]

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gameworld.g r%2Fmodules.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3Da rticle%26sid%3D1325&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=el&tl=en

Hopefully the translated version using google translater


Edit to add: Darkfall had done three years ago then the game would have been buried and would not have its present community that is well over three million users (50,000 of them have already signed up for the forum www.darkfallonline.com).
I wonder where they get the number 3 million.

[Legolas]

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gameworld.g r%2Fmodules.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3Da rticle%26sid%3D1325&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=el&tl=en

Hopefully the translated version using google translater


Edit to add:
I wonder where they get the number 3 million.

Maybe 3mil unique hits on the site?

[Morthor]

he also promished the constant addition of content in the game,from the first day of it's launch.

Is this good or bad? The way I see it, it could mean that some content is being left out until after release or it could just mean that the game will be released 100% finished but more will be added ontop of that...

Anyway thanks for finding this and translating. ;)

[keeperofstars]

Is this good or bad? The way I see it, it could mean that some content is being left out until after release or it could just mean that the game will be released 100% finished but more will be added ontop of that...

Anyway thanks for finding this and translating. ;)

I means the game will be a "finished" product but not the finished game they want.

The devs have a this is how the game is going to be at launch goal, and they are hitting it. Then they have the this is where we want the game to be in X years goal.

Things like the 200 some prestige classes they wanted to add in but just didnt have time to. The possible mount husbandry they were looking at, etc. Tasos has said it time and again they believe on adding / continuing the development of the game with constant free content, much similar to eve's system. Not to say there won't be expansions which you have to buy, just that they don't believe in making you buy them just to stay competative / able to play the game.

[Jonkar]

Somehow I doubt the sandbox elements will ever get back into the game, tbh.

[Deja vu]

ty for the translation even if its not new its good to get information from out side sources.

[Wisperer]

nice find, and thanks for the translation.

[d_arcturus]

Somehow I doubt the sandbox elements will ever get back into the game, tbh.

I'm sure you can build your own sandbox. Just get someone with the carpentry skill to build a box, then collect sand frmo the beach.



This is still a sandbox game, especially compared to other games.

[Niccoli]

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gameworld.g r%2Fmodules.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3Da rticle%26sid%3D1325&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=el&tl=en

Hopefully the translated version using google translater


Keep in mind this is from June. Would be nice to see something new. (duh) ;)

[Wufiavelli]

So that was from PC master and we are still waiting on the Games Magazine aritcle?

[d_arcturus]

So that was from PC master and we are still waiting on the Games Magazine aritcle?

Yes, I believe thats the case.

We just need a scan from the Games Magazine

[Wufiavelli]

Yes, I believe thats the case.

We just need a scan from the Games Magazine

Yeh the mmorpg.com board had the gameworld.gr person saying it was appearing in their first.

[coder1024]

Somehow I doubt the sandbox elements will ever get back into the game, tbh.
what on earth are you talking about???

[sylverCode]

Somehow I doubt the sandbox elements will ever get back into the game, tbh.

Burn the nonbeliever!

[Blixa]

well over 3million current darkfall fans they say? 50.000 already signed up at the forums? Woha, this is the prove for the 3million users! Plus there are alot fans just too afraid to join Forumfall. Maybe we already have 30 millions!

[Largion]

well over 3million current darkfall fans they say? 50.000 already signed up at the forums? Woha, this is the prove for the 3million users! Plus there are alot fans just too afraid to join Forumfall. Maybe we already have 30 millions!

To afraid?
Even Fro is here and hes French! :ninja:

[GRCPan]

I don't see anything about an interview with a greek game developer at the cover that was posted at the 1st page of the thread.

[Jonkar]

Somehow I doubt the sandbox elements will ever get back into the game, tbh.

I worded that a bit wrong, it seems.

What I meant is, that from reading the latest updates (This year) I got the feeling Darkfall is going to be a game focussing on just the (Clan) PvP instead of all other sorts of elements which would add to it's freedom/sandbox vision from long ago.

Hence why I doubt Darkfall will ever be more sandbox-like and offer a huge difference of additional freedom than at release.

It's a shame, since ultimately I hoped this to be a real sandbox game. But the dev journals from lately woke me up and got me less hyped about the game, which in a way could be considered a good thing.

That being said, I still believe Darkfall's going to be the best game out there. Simply not the dream game I hoped it to be.

[Wufiavelli]

I don't see anything about an interview with a greek game developer at the cover that was posted at the 1st page of the thread.

IS that the august addition? Is it on any of the other pages?

[branka]

But the dev journals from lately woke me up and got me less hyped about the game,

sorry for my ignorance...help me to understand how and why the dev journals have done this...

[Jonkar]

sorry for my ignorance...help me to understand how and why the dev journals have done this...

Universal banks even in limited form were quite a shitty thing for me personally, then there's the figurine shit and just the general impressions I personally got from certain game mechanics.

[muffins]

Universal banks even in limited form were quite a shitty thing for me personally, then there's the figurine shit

Personally, I don't see how those two things can affect sandbox play ... plus I'm in favour of both from a convenience point of view.

[Yantheman]

Universal banks even in limited form were quite a shitty thing for me personally, then there's the figurine shit and just the general impressions I personally got from certain game mechanics.

What are these sandbox elements you feel have been removed? If Darkfall isnt a "sandbox" now, then why did you think it was in the first place?

[Wufiavelli]

so any greeks looking to buy a Games magazine with in the next couple of days.

The fate of the forumfall world rest on your shoulders.

[steveyk]

Fuck mainstream magazines they always sell out to the huge publishers, I can't believe the whiners haven't realized that yet, why do you think they always have big annoying advertisements and background images of publisher games on their websites?

Yeah, more and more game sites are doing that now and it's fucking annoying.

I've actually noticed this a lot too.

[ZtyX]

Universal banks even in limited form were quite a shitty thing for me personally, then there's the figurine shit and just the general impressions I personally got from certain game mechanics.

That makes no sense at all.
Universal banks are neccesary and you WOULD hate not having them.
Star Wars Galaxies is considered to be one og the biggest sandbox mmorpgs and it has a universal bank system, so what are you on about?

The figurine shit? hello, this is a good way of doing it. You have to be realistic about these things.

Do you really expect yourself and other people to tame a horse and then ride around on it. Look dude. Noone is going to use horses if they take 30 minutes to get and you have to get a new one every time u die. Everyone would hate dieing and lots would quit. How annoying would it be to store your horses then?

Sometimes players are really not understanding what they wish for. I am glad that those do not design games and we have competent people like the devs to do it. Sorry if you feel offended, but you really should not be unhappy about these things. Darkfall is going to be very fun for you without those things. Don't be so extreme about things.

In a game like Darkfall dieing has to be something that doesn't discourage people or make them quit. it needs to be something which makes people want to play more and get better. Excuse me, but having to waste loads of time catching horses doesn't do that and having to travel 100km in one direction to go get more gear, then travel another 100k is not smart.

[Jherge]

That makes no sense at all.
Do you really expect yourself and other people to tame a horse and then ride around on it. Look dude. Noone is going to use horses if they take 30 minutes to get and you have to get a new one every time u die. Everyone would hate dieing and lots would quit. How annoying would it be to store your horses then?


You need to rethink things a little. I believe one of the reasons for the figures is to facilitate looting. When you die you will need to find a new mount. They will probably be one of the first things looted.

[Nuzor]

keep the thread on topic, there's hundreds of UB thread's if you want to discuss that.

[dirtknap]

Universal banks are neccesary and you WOULD hate not having them.
Star Wars Galaxies is considered to be one og the biggest sandbox mmorpgs and it has a universal bank system, so what are you on about?

EVE is the biggest sandbox game around and it's local banks only.

IMO try playing a local bank-only sandbox game for a couple of months before you go touting UBs as the only solution.

you will be well surprised. before playing eve i couldn't have imagined no UBs either.

[Danielmoscow]

That makes no sense at all.
Universal banks are neccesary and you WOULD hate not having them.
Star Wars Galaxies is considered to be one og the biggest sandbox mmorpgs and it has a universal bank system, so what are you on about?

The figurine shit? hello, this is a good way of doing it. You have to be realistic about these things.

Do you really expect yourself and other people to tame a horse and then ride around on it. Look dude. Noone is going to use horses if they take 30 minutes to get and you have to get a new one every time u die. Everyone would hate dieing and lots would quit. How annoying would it be to store your horses then?

Sometimes players are really not understanding what they wish for. I am glad that those do not design games and we have competent people like the devs to do it. Sorry if you feel offended, but you really should not be unhappy about these things. Darkfall is going to be very fun for you without those things. Don't be so extreme about things.

In a game like Darkfall dieing has to be something that doesn't discourage people or make them quit. it needs to be something which makes people want to play more and get better. Excuse me, but having to waste loads of time catching horses doesn't do that and having to travel 100km in one direction to go get more gear, then travel another 100k is not smart.

Jonkar is going to rape you in about 5 min.....

[Eskareon]

Do you really expect yourself and other people to tame a horse and then ride around on it. Look dude. Noone is going to use horses if they take 30 minutes to get and you have to get a new one every time u die. Everyone would hate dieing and lots would quit. How annoying would it be to store your horses then?

Yeah, it's not like there has ever been an MMO where players could tame their own animals and had to tame their own horses, buy horses from a stable, or buy horses from other players. Yeah, that's never been done. Yeah, and it certainly has never been done in a successful MMO. Nope, never.

[MortalZero]

I don't see anything about an interview with a greek game developer at the cover that was posted at the 1st page of the thread.

But there is a story about "Greek game developers" inside.
Gameworld.gr dude hinted that DF info would be published there first ("Games" magazine) and a month later on the gameworld.gr website.
Thats why i guess there is the interview inside, cause gameworld.gr claimed to have an interview and info about beta and release date.
Someone in greece can just go to store open the magazine and verify DarkFall info...

[GRCPan]

IS that the august addition? Is it on any of the other pages?

I have no idea, the only way for me to buy that magazine is if im out of toilet papper.

[Marlen]

EVE is the biggest sandbox game around and it's local banks only.

IMO try playing a local bank-only sandbox game for a couple of months before you go touting UBs as the only solution.

you will be well surprised. before playing eve i couldn't have imagined no UBs either.

i have played eve. you seem to fail to notice that eve has auto flight features... that will drive u there while you watch tv or do what ever the hell you want. and i remember that sometimes banks that had what i wanted could be up to 2+hrs away.... so yea, no,thankx,bye. not only that, but eve does have something similar to safe zones and you could just fly through the safe areas, although taking longer. darkfall dosent have any safezones. imagine walking over 1hr to a bank that has the items ur looking for, to have some1 kill you for the fun of it when ur 15 mins away... guess what, go back to ur spawn point and do it all over again

YAY!!!

[Bunkah]

This is stupid...

Why does Aventurine and crew give interviews to some random gaming magazine that don't even have an english version of their magazine/website...

I mean.. at least 90%+ of the market here can't read Greek...

Having a MMO hiting a worldwide market, you should at least do your PR in English, even tho your game is produce in Greece...

[Beeblebrox]

This is stupid...

Why does Aventurine and crew give interviews to some random gaming magazine that don't even have an english version of their magazine/website...

I mean.. at least 90%+ of the market here can't read Greek...

Having a MMO hiting a worldwide market, you should at least do your PR in English, even tho your game is produce in Greece...

They work in mysterious ways.
Regarding their PR, it's like quantum physics to me.

[Marlen]

It was the old ones, according to GameWorld.gr.

And to quote what he said about beta and such;

Was this the only Darkfall video shown at the Greek gaming conference?, if not what was the other one like?
- There were 2 videos at the greek conference. We've just uploaded the other one.

Can you confirm if there will be an exclusive Darkfall interview in the august edition of GameWorldGR?

- Yes

Will there be any information in the Darkfall interview about beta/ publishing or release?

- Yes

When exactly will the August edition of GameWorldGR be released?
- Probably, in the first days of August. Stay tuned

Also if you attended the conference can you post anything interesting that was not mentioned in the GameWorldGR article?

- Darkfall received a standing ovation during and after the presentation. Also, many independent programmers spoke with Tasos Flabouras after the meeting, in order to work with Aventurine S.A.


Where did u get this info from?

[Bunkah]

Sounds like a mmorpg.com thread... I think I saw something like that there...

[d_arcturus]

This is stupid...

Why does Aventurine and crew give interviews to some random gaming magazine that don't even have an english version of their magazine/website...

I mean.. at least 90%+ of the market here can't read Greek...

Having a MMO hiting a worldwide market, you should at least do your PR in English, even tho your game is produce in Greece...

Be thankful they're giving an interview at all.

Its a greek magazine, which means its near them, so it takes little effort for them to meet/give answers etc. The information will make it on here eventually anyway, so just keep your pants on, seriously. We don't wan to see that.

[Marlen]

Sounds like a mmorpg.com thread... I think I saw something like that there...

how is that from mmorpg?
its referring to the greek site gameworld.gr, did they personally talk to these guys? and we are half way through the month almost, where is this magazine they speak of

[Bunkah]

Be thankful they're giving an interview at all.

Its a greek magazine, which means its near them, so it takes little effort for them to meet/give answers etc. The information will make it on here eventually anyway, so just keep your pants on, seriously. We don't wan to see that.

Let me see here...

a Greek interview for a "local" greek magazine.. or no interviews at all... which would I prefer... ?

And let me guess that most of the things said in that "interview" is mostly everything we know already from the Q&A and the Forumfall visits.

Anyways.. I'm just saying that a vast majority of the users here understand english and a very low % of them can actually read greek...

If you have a product in hand that you want to hit a worldwide market with, make sure eveyone can read it and understand it...

if you have an opportunity to give an interview, why not make sure it's going to be posted in english, or at least have it translated for the forumfall users.

[GRCPan]

Let me see here...

a Greek interview for a "local" greek magazine.. or no interviews at all... which would I prefer... ?

And let me guess that most of the things said in that "interview" is mostly everything we know already from the Q&A and the Forumfall visits.

Anyways.. I'm just saying that a vast majority of the users here understand english and a very low % of them can actually read greek...

If you have a product in hand that you want to hit a worldwide market with, make sure eveyone can read it and understand it...

if you have an opportunity to give an interview, why not make sure it's going to be posted in english, or at least have it translated for the forumfall users.

Well interviews are mostly meant for the ones that haven't followed the game so its normal to have few or even no new info.
Yes an interview in a greek magazine won't be seen my many people but that they do an interview on a greek magazine doesn't mean they won't make an interview on an english magazine.
I don't remember them saying that they won't translate it for the forumfall users. Though it would be unprofessional from their part to do so since the magazine would like to be the only source of the interview. Ofcourse for a translation greek users like me here can always do it. But first we need an interview to translate it.

[Bunkah]

Well interviews are mostly meant for the ones that haven't followed the game so its normal to have few or even no new info.

You are absolutely right.. but do you think that their main market is in Greece?.. there are tons of other english magazines out there waiting for hot topics and covers... I know the magazine is in Greece and so is Aventurine.. but c'mon.. with the internet today, you can be everywhere.

Yes an interview in a greek magazine won't be seen my many people but that they do an interview on a greek magazine doesn't mean they won't make an interview on an english magazine.

I just don't understand why they didn't do it the other way.. make an english interview.. then complete some random stuff to the greek magazine.. but that's just me.

let's hope for the best tho! :)

[d_arcturus]

Let me see here...

a Greek interview for a "local" greek magazine.. or no interviews at all... which would I prefer... ?

And let me guess that most of the things said in that "interview" is mostly everything we know already from the Q&A and the Forumfall visits.

Anyways.. I'm just saying that a vast majority of the users here understand english and a very low % of them can actually read greek...

If you have a product in hand that you want to hit a worldwide market with, make sure eveyone can read it and understand it...

if you have an opportunity to give an interview, why not make sure it's going to be posted in english, or at least have it translated for the forumfall users.
I'm guessing you're a relatively new member. Many of us have gone Months or years without any type of information at all. So yes, having an "interview" thats actually in a magazine is certainly a step forward.

And yes, there is a chance that the interview has stuff we already know, but as someone said, interviews are meant for ones that haven't followed the game. But again, for those of use that have been around for years, and have witnessed the lack of PR over those years, seeing an interview in a magazine, even a localized greek one is, again, a step forward.

Finally, yes, having an interview in greek leaves a majority of the non-greek speakers in the dark for a while. But most people in the community are more than willing to share and translate information, they just need something to translate.

Furthermore they will probably post an english version of the interview in the news site eventually. The magazine just came out a few days ago, the devs aren't going to post the english version on the site at the same time, it would kill any reason for someone to buy the magazine.

[Ramses]

You are absolutely right.. but do you think that their main market is in Greece?.. there are tons of other english magazines out there waiting for hot topics and covers... I know the magazine is in Greece and so is Aventurine.. but c'mon.. with the internet today, you can be everywhere.



I just don't understand why they didn't do it the other way.. make an english interview.. then complete some random stuff to the greek magazine.. but that's just me.

let's hope for the best tho! :)

The interview sounds like it's from the Greek Games Developer Conference. Why the hell would they give an English interview?

[Wisperer]

i have played eve. you seem to fail to notice that eve has auto flight features... that will drive u there while you watch tv or do what ever the hell you want.

Like the recall runes? altho you will not have alot of time to watch tv :p

not only that, but eve does have something similar to safe zones and you could just fly through the safe areas, although taking longer.

You were talking about auto-piloting through pvp zones before? yea riiigghht

and i remember that sometimes banks that had what i wanted could be up to 2+hrs away.... so yea, no,thankx,bye.

Yup the bank could be up to 2Hrs away, IF you were on opposite sided of the map. From Lonetrek / Minnen / Nonni to Sinq Laison / Spaen / Ney takes aprox 37 minutes and thats staying in safe sectors on auto pilot. i know because i mined in ney and quested around nonni. this was just last year.

darkfall dosent have any safezones. imagine walking over 1hr to a bank that has the items ur looking for, to have some1 kill you for the fun of it when ur 15 mins away... guess what, go back to ur spawn point and do it all over again

YAY!!!

There are these rune stone that you can bind to a location...use one to go to the bank. then use another to go to a location near where you arecurrently hunting/questing/ganking.

ok, whats next?

[Feyrband]

Where did u get this info from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnIv3YnHuVQ

go to earliest page of comments, 6 when i clicked it.

this is where the info of the mysterious article initially came from.

[Bunkah]

I'm guessing you're a relatively new member. Many of us have gone Months or years without any type of information at all.

As new as you are.. I registered sept 07... but I've been following the game for like 2 years... But again.. that has nothing to do with how the PR is done... Even if 2 or 3 years ago, information was given at a monthly rate, the game is releasing within 5 months.. It's about time they open up the PR machine.


And yes, there is a chance that the interview has stuff we already know, but as someone said, interviews are meant for ones that haven't followed the game. But again, for those of use that have been around for years, and have witnessed the lack of PR over those years, seeing an interview in a magazine, even a localized greek one is, again, a step forward.

No it's not a step forward.. what do you think about the Q&A and interviews Tasos was giving to Warcry?.. and all other things that happened since 5 years? I'm not sure this greek interview helps in anyway with a release very soon(tm).. I know this interview is not really meant for forumfall.. but there's ALOT of ppl out there that is a potentional DFO player, that's where they gotta hit!



Finally, yes, having an interview in greek leaves a majority of the non-greek speakers in the dark for a while. But most people in the community are more than willing to share and translate information, they just need something to translate.

Do you really think that ppl around the world will come here to get the translation from the greek magazine?.. they won't bother. Even if some forumfall user can translate the magazine, it will most likely be used stuff. (that again is just my opinion tho)

The magazine just came out a few days ago, the devs aren't going to post the english version on the site at the same time, it would kill any reason for someone to buy the magazine.

I can only hope for the best :cool:

[Staatsschutz]

ok ill have to ask: since several ppl already seem to have that magazine, has someone already posted a scan, or translated the DF related article?

[Vecnaros]

This secrecy is just plain dumb. As usual. You cant make half of this stuff up....

[dirtknap]

i have played eve. you seem to fail to notice that eve has auto flight features... that will drive u there while you watch tv or do what ever the hell you want. and i remember that sometimes banks that had what i wanted could be up to 2+hrs away.... so yea, no,thankx,bye. not only that, but eve does have something similar to safe zones and you could just fly through the safe areas, although taking longer. darkfall dosent have any safezones. imagine walking over 1hr to a bank that has the items ur looking for, to have some1 kill you for the fun of it when ur 15 mins away... guess what, go back to ur spawn point and do it all over again
YAY!!!

eve doesn't have safezones, you can be attacked anywhere in space, but some areas are guarded by NPCs, this is exactly the same as Darkfall.

eve auto-pilot is the same thing as Darkfall's autorun; ie: use it at your own risk.

this has been discussed 1000x before, try reading any of the big universal bank threads.

[yamisniper]

eve doesn't have safezones, you can be attacked anywhere in space, but some areas are guarded by NPCs, this is exactly the same as Darkfall.

eve auto-pilot is the same thing as Darkfall's autorun; ie: use it at your own risk.

this has been discussed 1000x before, try reading any of the big universal bank threads.

excpt auto run goes 1 way autopilot goes where you tell it im sorry im not going afk on auto run because its not going tog et me where i need to go .. its not the same im sorry eve you dont get stuck on objects
autorun you will

[dirtknap]

excpt auto run goes 1 way autopilot goes where you tell it im sorry im not going afk on auto run because its not going tog et me where i need to go .. its not the same im sorry eve you dont get stuck on objects
autorun you will

point is, noone uses auto-run or auto-pilot unless they are noob or stupid or both. it's begging for death, and is therefore irrelevant to the discussion about UBs/LBs.

[The-Nit]

The name of the game is Darkfall.... NOT Darkfall Online.

[yamisniper]

The name of the game is Darkfall.... NOT Darkfall Online.

actully it will be darkfall online in the us because darkfall is tooken

[yamisniper]

eve doesn't have safezones, you can be attacked anywhere in space, but some areas are guarded by NPCs, this is exactly the same as Darkfall.

eve auto-pilot is the same thing as Darkfall's autorun; ie: use it at your own risk.

this has been discussed 1000x before, try reading any of the big universal bank threads.

O yes LB wont work in df they will but it will make people Quit faster than it would keep people

[Darkfalz]

Oh gawd why can't we just have some interviews in some main-stream magazines :confused:

It's just becoming so more and more obvious that this game is nothing but vaporware.

[Darkfalz]

actully it will be darkfall online in the us because darkfall is tooken

Wrong. Dark Fall is taken. And even if Darkfall is taken, they can call it whatever the fuck they want, noob.

[d_arcturus]

The name of the game is Darkfall.... NOT Darkfall Online.
I'd like to point out the fact that your posting on forums.darkfallonline.com

[Homeless Jimmy]

anyone see this magazine yet?

[Blixa]

anyone see this magazine yet?

I don't get it. A magazine that released 4 days ago and where probably a release/beta date was given out is obviously not bought by any greek on the forums. I don't get it! We do have some greeks on forumfall, don't we? WhereTF is the translation or at least a simple date?

[Staatsschutz]

I don't get it. A magazine that released 4 days ago and where probably a release/beta date was given out is obviously not bought by any greek on the forums. I don't get it! We do have some greeks on forumfall, don't we? WhereTF is the translation or at least a simple date?

yea. thats definately a bit weird to say the least

[Morthor]

I don't get it. A magazine that released 4 days ago and where probably a release/beta date was given out is obviously not bought by any greek on the forums. I don't get it! We do have some greeks on forumfall, don't we? WhereTF is the translation or at least a simple date?

Did I miss something? What makes you think a release / beta date is in this magazine? And why would they choose to announce it like that rather than on the website?

I think you'll find it will be a similar scenario to the radio show last night ;)

[Staatsschutz]

Did I miss something? What makes you think a release / beta date is in this magazine? And why would they choose to announce it like that rather than on the website?

I think you'll find it will be a similar scenario to the radio show last night ;)

ok but still: if the magazine is out since some days, why hasnt someone even given a short writeup what the df related article contains

[d_arcturus]

ok but still: if the magazine is out since some days, why hasnt someone even given a short writeup what the df related article contains

Because no one has gotten the magazine yet.

[Morthor]

Because no one has gotten the magazine yet.

I think you may be onto something here

[MortalZero]

Did I miss something? What makes you think a release / beta date is in this magazine? And why would they choose to announce it like that rather than on the website?

I think you'll find it will be a similar scenario to the radio show last night ;)

Gameworld.gr was claiming to have an exclusive interview in August.
Asked about where and when, Gameworld.gr representative said it will release in printmedia first particulary in a magazine called "Games" and a month later online
at gameworld.gr.
Cover of said magazine includes a "subject: Greek Game Developers" so propably it includes that interview and i remember but could be wrong then gameworld.gr also claimed exclusive interview contains beta/release info...

Btw Tasos verified gameworld.gr article about GWDC although objected to some inaccuracies.. so gameworld.gr had definitive contact to Tasos for an interview..it is very possible...

[Morthor]

Gameworld.gr was claiming to have an exclusive interview in August.
Asked about where and when, Gameworld.gr representative said it will release in printmedia first particulary in a magazine called "Games" and a month later online
at gameworld.gr.
Cover of said magazine includes a "subject:Greek Game Developers" sopropablyitincludes that interview and i rememberbut could be wrong then gameworld.gr also claimed exclusive interview contains beta/release info...

I see, so I did miss something then it seems. Even so, if Tasos or one of the dev team give an interview, I still doubt they would reveal anything new that we don't already know.

[Staatsschutz]

I think you may be onto something here

i have seen scans of different pages of it on different sites already, but apparently the df related article is such a minor one, that nobody has even noticed it yet.

[d_arcturus]

i have seen scans of different pages of it on different sites already, but apparently the df related article is such a minor one, that nobody has even noticed it yet.
The only scans I've seen have been for Too Human.

The darkfall stuff probably hasn't be scanned because people who don't follow the game probably wouldn't have known it was important to people.

Hell I had Games for Windows for a while and barely read half the crap in there, who knows if any of the articles were a big deal to someone.

[Wufiavelli]

looks like nada

[Slaine]

I dont even know why i post this reply im not even from greece >:|

[Drudley]

Is this new or old, I don't think I've seen it before...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zib-sVNu64&feature=related

[Jonkar]

Is this new or old, I don't think I've seen it before...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zib-sVNu64&feature=related

Very old.

[Madrandomize]

I will go and buy a "games" magazine if i find a store open.

Shall i post here or create a new thread if i find it?
(I mean the screenshot and translation)

[Drudley]

Very old.

Thats awful, how could I have missed an entire video!?

I need help.

[Jonkar]

I will go and buy a "games" magazine if i find a store open.

Shall i post here or create a new thread if i find it?
(I mean the screenshot and translation)

New thread.

[Largion]

I will go and buy a "games" magazine if i find a store open.

Shall i post here or create a new thread if i find it?
(I mean the screenshot and translation)

Make a new or it will be lost in the pages of stupid questions.

[LanMandragon]

Make a new or it will be lost in the pages of stupid questions.

yes please

[Wufiavelli]

With the amount of stupid threads made here pretty sure a new thread about an interview is no problem.

[Kilmoran]

Like the recall runes? altho you will not have alot of time to watch tv :p



You were talking about auto-piloting through pvp zones before? yea riiigghht



Yup the bank could be up to 2Hrs away, IF you were on opposite sided of the map. From Lonetrek / Minnen / Nonni to Sinq Laison / Spaen / Ney takes aprox 37 minutes and thats staying in safe sectors on auto pilot. i know because i mined in ney and quested around nonni. this was just last year.



There are these rune stone that you can bind to a location...use one to go to the bank. then use another to go to a location near where you arecurrently hunting/questing/ganking.

ok, whats next?

Rune stones can be stolen. Rune stones require you to have been at the location and spent time binding to that location. YOu would need a rune stone per location, if you can even have multiple rune stones. None of tihs is at all remotely similair to auto pilot, nor is the REASON for LB in EVE the same reason it would be in DFO. You have a galactic regional market with which to see products... so unless A, the markets are "universal" as they are on Eve, or B, the ability to travel is made a whole lot mroe convinient than 50 rune stones or 2 hours of rough terrain, there is need for UB in order for most people to have fun.

UB's do not destroy regional economies as much as people think, because just because you can access your bank at certain locations, doesn't mean you can easily GET to all of those locations.

[Kilmoran]

eve doesn't have safezones, you can be attacked anywhere in space, but some areas are guarded by NPCs, this is exactly the same as Darkfall.

eve auto-pilot is the same thing as Darkfall's autorun; ie: use it at your own risk.

this has been discussed 1000x before, try reading any of the big universal bank threads.

Auto Run is not the same as Auto Pilot... nor does it move at warp speeds and automatically "zone" you. Feel free to try it in DFO as much as you like though... at your own risk.

Edit: While this is a dead subject i posted on, my last comment is merely that alot of people will auto run...they just will be paying attentino and making course adjustments... it's generally better than holding "W" for 15 minutes straight. What they won't/shouldn't do is run straight forward with no attention paid for 15 minutes with auto run, but feel free to do so.